SpursTalk Playoff Edition Skin

[timvp]

Now you can chose which style you want to view SpursTalk in. Go down to the bottom of any page and pull down the menu on the bottom left to pick the style. There is the default style or the SpursTalk Playoff Edition style.

Thanks.

:hat

[ALVAREZ6]

I don't think it worked for me, the skin didn't change.

[Kori Ellis]

The only difference is the playoff one has the animation. The animation slows down people's computers on dial-up, so we took it out for them.

[Slomo]

This is an excellent solutions! Good idea LJ.

[Dre_7]

Awesome!

[rascal]

Missed the playoff picks in the other thread so here is mine.

Suns in 4
Denver in 6
SAC in 7
Mavs in 5
Heat in 7
Det in 4
Boston in 7
Wash in 5

[smeagol]

Missed the playoff picks in the other thread so here is mine.

Suns in 4
Denver in 6
SAC in 7
Mavs in 5
Heat in 7
Det in 4
Boston in 7
Wash in 5
Man, at least you are consistent in you Spur-hating attitude

[ALVAREZ6]

Rascal, how come under your name it reads: Team:San Antonio Spurs?

[orhe]

he registered when hedo was here?
or was that taruky

[baseline bum]

I've selected the playoff theme and I don't see the animation anymore.

[Kori Ellis]

It's working for me. After I refresh the page, it takes about 20 seconds to start.

[rascal]

Rascal, how come under your name it reads: Team:San Antonio Spurs?

Why ask this? Must you always believe the spurs will win?

[rascal]

Denver was the more logical choice and I predicted it that way. With Duncan not at full strenght the spurs are in trouble because they don't have another proven 20+ scorer or go to player to take the heat off duncan. I've been saying this for a long time.

[Nikos]

Denver was the more logical choice and I predicted it that way. With Duncan not at full strenght the spurs are in trouble because they don't have another proven 20+ scorer or go to player to take the heat off duncan. I've been saying this for a long time.

Why do the Spurs need a 20pt scorer, when Denver's main scorer didn't even play well on offense and they STILL WON? Your rationale is very simplistic and really is short sighted IMO.

I find it a little silly how you have this special 'proven 20pt scorer' nonsense. Why is that precise number so important? 20pts from Ray Allen is one thing, but 20pts from Melo and Jrich or Sprewell is completely different. You have to get those points efficiently within an offense. Not take 20 shots to get it like many players do.

Just say the Spurs need another all star who can carry an offense, or an offense player who is also an elite defensive player ( a big man dominator -- not many of those today).

They don't neccesarily need a 20ppg scorer. Hell Elliot did it one year with Drob AND they had Rodman, and they could not win the title. (Yes Houston had Drexler, but they did not have a Rodman calibur player as a third banana).

[rascal]

Just say the Spurs need another all star who can carry an offense, or an offense player who is also an elite defensive player ( a big man dominator -- not many of those today).



Agree with this. The spurs need another all star who can carry the offense.

If the spurs had another player who got them 20+ a night it would be like what you said. Melo or J Richardson (Not Sprewell anymore)would be nice on the spurs. They would be more offensive threats.

[Nikos]

I guess we will have to disagree on this.

Ray Allen would be a great choice. Jason Richardson and Melo were not what I was thinking of. Those are VOLUME shooters who need the ball a lot to score.

Ray Allen can carry an offense EFFICIENTLY and with his 3pt shot would be more effective. Even Michael Redd would be decent fit, but he is not really all that much better of an overall player than Manu is (although is the better scorer).

But Melo and Jrich are NOT going to improve this team greatly. They may get better, but they would not guruntee a title.

Don't you understand that Denver is winning primarily because of their DEFENSE? Camby is just as valuable as Melo to that team, if not MORE. Beleive me. Melo can get hot at times, but he can also finish games with 12pts on 22 shot attempts. Do the Spurs really need that?

I think you overstate the 20ppg issue and are too pessamistic about the teams chances the past two seasons. Realistically if they were healthy, they are championship contenders. They might not be dominant, and Parker and Ginobili might not be great second stars, but they are good players. Perhaps you should take a more objective view of this team and try to understand why them perform poorly as a unit, instead of making blanket statements about having a 20ppg scorer.

They need a great scorer that WOULD FIT the Spurs. But despite not having that, they are STILL TITLE CONTENDERS. Your inability to admit that the team is good is simply just as ridiculous as you perceive spurs 'homers' beliefs to be.

In other words you are just as negative as the homers are positive.

[rascal]

I guess we will have to disagree on this.


In other words you are just as negative as the homers are positive.

Too bad Duncan is injured because now there is a built in excuse when the spurs lose. The spurs need more talent around duncan and that is the bottom line. People fail to see this. They are built for great regular season win totals but not good enough come playoff time. Role players can only take you so far. Unless manu or Parker improve into worthy all stars(Manu should not have been on the all star team-He did not have the numbers) it will be more of the same.

It will be great regular seasons which inspire great hope just to fall short and duncan's years go wasted. Pop has not done well in building the team. Many top players change teams every year and the spurs settle for players over the hill like Horry or role players like Barry. As long as Pop/RC are running the team I doubt the spurs will ever win another title. Thats how much I dislike Pop's overall moves.

[Nikos]

Just because you don't like the fact that the team is not gaurunteed to win the title, does not mean its not a title contender.

You talk about people being homers, but you are just the same towards players you perceive to be great because they simply reach a certain meaningless point total.

I mean there are 40-50 players who can score 20ppg if given the shots. What the hell is your fixation with it?

Pistons have ZERO 20pt scorers and they have a chance at the title. The Nuggets beat the Spurs without having their best scorer actually SCORE 20pts.

Your boy Lamar Odom and Kobe couldn't muster up 40 wins for their team and Odom was someone you claimed to be such a great player. Heck they had Butler too and still couldn't manage to lead their team to respectability. What was your prediction for LA again last season? Thats what I thought.

It is easy to be cynical, but you are probably even less objective in your takes then a Spurs homer. You have your pre-conceived notions and are so rigid that it is impossible to have a reasoned debate with you. You don't even really consider anything other than constantly repeating how badly the Spurs need a 20ppg scorer.

Duncan was out practically 15 games + and the team still won 59 games! They still finished #1 on D, and #8 on offense. That is not something that is soley Duncan. Duncan has had Robinson before and has gotten SWEPT by the Lakers in 2000-01.

If Duncan could single handedly win the Spurs 55 games as you claim, then he has to be the best player of all time. Because Jordan couldn't do it. Hakeem couldn't do it. Heck Drob put up some ridiculous seasons and even he needed some help to make the playoffs (actually Drob came close to a playoff spot with minimal help).

You need to get some perespective.

Duncan is not Michael Jordan, and even Michael Jordan could not make any sort of playoff noise without a supporting cast.

The Pistons did not even have any All Stars and they won championships.

When are you going to get it in your skull that teams can win titles without needing 2-3 all stars.

The Spurs success is not merely predicated by having Parker scoring a certain point total. Same with Manu.

You need role players to perform well. If Parker plays poorly, its not just because he does not reach 20pts. It's because he needed 22 shots to get 16pts. Its because he does not pass the ball or make the LITTLE plays to compensate for his off shooting. It's because he might dissapear in the clutch. Same goes for most other players. They have their roles, and if they don't at least match what they did during the regular season and out do it, then they probably aren't doing their job.

[rascal]

Get it thru your thick skull that role players will always fall short come playoff time.

The Pistons had two all star quality players B Wallace and R Wallace and Billups and Hamilton are just below all star level. They are a deeper team than the spurs.

You still want to argue that Vince Carter or R Wallace two players who were traded for next to nothing would not have been good for the spurs?

You need to be strong on the inside and with Duncan the spurs have that now they need another top player. You can't compare that with the Lakers who need help on the inside. You add players like Wallace or Carter with DUNCAN and your better than a team with Kobe and Odom. You add Odom with DUNCAN and your better. DUNCAN needs more help than what he is getting with the role player acquisitions the spurs keep settling for.

[xcoriate]

The Pistons had two all star quality players B Wallace and R Wallace and Billups and Hamilton are just below all star level.

*cough*bullshit*cough*

[Nikos]

Get it thru your thick skull that role players will always fall short come playoff time.

The Pistons had two all star quality players B Wallace and R Wallace and Billups and Hamilton are just below all star level. They are a deeper team than the spurs.

You still want to argue that Vince Carter or R Wallace two players who were traded for next to nothing would not have been good for the spurs?

You need to be strong on the inside and with Duncan the spurs have that now they need another top player. You can't compare that with the Lakers who need help on the inside. You add players like Wallace or Carter with DUNCAN and your better than a team with Kobe and Odom. You add Odom with DUNCAN and your better. DUNCAN needs more help than what he is getting with the role player acquisitions the spurs keep settling for.

You just don't get it, the point is no Detroit Piston can carry an offense on that team. They are barely average on offense as a unit, their DEFENSE is their bread and butter. They are a team of very good role players, they have no true superstars. Ben Wallace and Rasheed surrounded by three mediocre to poor role players would be a horrible team.

Oh, so now you have excuses for the Lakers? I though Odom was a star? How come Kobe and Odom can't even lead them to a playoff berth? Cause they have no true role players. They have REDUNDANT talent. No ROLE players.

I never argued anything about Vince Carter other than the fact that he was always injured and was a risk in that sense. I also thought Rasheed was a big risk, I NEVER said he was not a good player which you seem to think EVERYONE says.

Sometimes risks payoff, sometimes they don't. Just because you want any 18pt scorer does not make your arguments any better than the alleged Spurs homer.

Predicting the Spurs team losing means nothing. Anyone can be cynical and prove their stupidity with weak ass posts. Your rationale is not very well thought out, and you articulate your thoughts like my 70 year old grandma who doesn't know how to use a computer keyboard would. Seriously, either you are just extremely close-minded or are stupid. And I am beggining to think you are both.

Sorry but your posts are worthless and your predictions mean nothing. Even the posters on this board who feel the Spurs are going to lose feel the same way. Don't think you are some wise poster because you predict the Spurs losing.

You claim the Spurs need more 20pt talent, yet when Pistons are a team full of role players you pump them up by saying how good they overall are AFTER THE FACT. No mentioning of how they do not have one All Star this season or last.

There is no way in hell you predicted the Pistons to win the title last year, because if you say you did you are lying. And the reason the Lakers lost so badly was because one of their ROLE PLAYERS, Karl Malone was hurt. Go figure. Care to comment on that? (didn't think so).

Amazing how you still pump Odom up. He actually plays inside and does reasonably well on the boards. And yet you pair him with Kobe and they are just as bad as the Clippers (who have 2 20pt scorers BTW). Why are those teams having so much trouble?

Bring an objective take and an open mind. Cause your posts are really starting to corrode this board. They are not only lacking in entertainment, they just provide no reasoned analysis or sign of objectivity. You have one thing on your mind and that is to pump yourself up for your cynical thoughts and predictions. It's like you want the team to lose. Hell I bet you did not even follow some of their games last season (you probably just looked at box scores and PPG stats).

I don't even care if the Spurs get swept, because it doesn't make you any better of a poster or thinker on this forum. You are incapable of furthering or taking part in a healthy debate.

[Brodels]

Missed the playoff picks in the other thread so here is mine.

Suns in 4
Denver in 6
SAC in 7
Mavs in 5
Heat in 7
Det in 4
Boston in 7
Wash in 5

Good pick.

[Brodels]

Denver was the more logical choice and I predicted it that way. With Duncan not at full strenght the spurs are in trouble because they don't have another proven 20+ scorer or go to player to take the heat off duncan. I've been saying this for a long time.

Pretty logical. And Manu was the best player on the floor during the series. He's an all star and carried the team for stretches.

You've been saying that Manu is inadequate for a long time, and thankfully for the Spurs, you've been wrong for a long time.

Good call on this one, as usual.