I'll take

[red strike 07]

Dirk over Dwight Howard any day of the week that ends with Y :toast

[Culburn369]

If Dirk hadn't a assumed fetal position in Florida in '06 I'd agree with you.

But, he did.

[red strike 07]

If Dirk hadn't a assumed fetal position in Florida in '06 I'd agree with you.

But, he did.

LOL @ dwight howard getting most of the credit last year when the Magic got to the Finals but everyone forgets that the GO TO guy on that team was turkoglu

[badfish22]

Dirk > Dwight is a well known fact sons

[Findog]

If Dirk hadn't a assumed fetal position in Florida in '06 I'd agree with you.



He did no such thing.

[iggypop123]

center is more valuable than a perimter pf. and howard is super young

[badfish22]

If Dirk hadn't a assumed fetal position in Florida in '06 I'd agree with you.

But, he did.

Dwight didn't know how to get into any position in the Finals

[dirk4mvp]

center is more valuable than a perimter pf. and howard is super young

Who cares? Dirk's better.

[Findog]

center is more valuable than a perimter pf. and howard is super young

Any GM would take Dwight because of the age difference. As a coach, some would take Dirk. Look at what "Superman" did last night: 1-1 from the field, 8-17 from the FT line, 10 points, 17 boards and 5 turnovers. Has he really gotten that much better over the past 18 months? The only difference with that Magic team is that they have assembled a dynamite team around him? Howard has a chance to be really great, but he's not there yet. The tools are there, but he still has not developed any kind of post-game. If you want to beat Orlando, you stay home on their shooters and you force Howard to beat you one-on-one in the post. He's not the kind of guy yet who can do that.

[sribb43]

center is more valuable than a perimter pf. and howard is super young

not discrediting your statement but he also been in the league about 5 years i believe and his game hasnt improved for shit...no post moves yet and his FT shooting (most notably that ridiculous release of his) hasnt been improved

[sefant77]

Dwight is stagnating. He improved nothing the last 1-2 years.

Just how to bang ugly pornstars

[Findog]

The Magic got to the Finals last year because that team is fucking stacked. Dwight is pretty much the same player he was 2-3 years ago.

[SamoanTD]

I'd go with dirk over howard and i hate those fukers lol

[Findog]

As an aside, I feel bad for Brandon Bass. He left Dallas for Orlando thinking he'd get more PT, and he's been racking up the DNP-CDs and getting garbage minutes. I guess we can hold off on calling Otis Smith some mastermind, since gave 5 years, $34 million for a backup C that plays 8 minutes a game and gave Bass 4 years, $18 million when they were already over the luxury tax threshold.

[badfish22]

With all this Dirk love, its easy to forget some of the other players tonight.
Kidd, Damp and Marion all had superb games.

[Findog]

With all this Dirk love, its easy to forget some of the other players tonight.
Kidd, Damp and Marion all had superb games.

I was out with my girlfriend tonight at the Lakewood Landing and I caught glimpses of the game in the first half. How the fuck did it come down to a last-second shot in OT?

[Goran Dragic]

I was out with my girlfriend tonight at the Lakewood Landing and I caught glimpses of the game in the first half. How the fuck did it come down to a last-second shot in OT?


Jason Terry.

For those saying Dwight because of how young he is, don't let his age fool you. IMO, if he hasn't developed a post game at this point, he never will. He's a lot older than 24 as far as NBA mileage goes, when you consider how much his game is based off athleticism, it's even worse.

[Culburn369]

Dwight didn't know how to get into any position in the Finals

But, Dwight never had it won. Dirk did. And he let Miami take it from him. He's probably mentally scarred now and can only operate effectively in the meaningless contests, so to speak.

Until he can once again face his demons in the Finals (& persevere) he'll always be rightfully judged for climbing into that crib in Florida and letting Wade change his diapers.

[Findog]

But, Dwight never had it won. Dirk did. And he let Miami take it from him. He's probably mentally scarred now and can only operate effectively in the meaningless contests, so to speak.

Okay Dr. Phil.


Until he can once again face his demons in the Finals (& persevere) he'll always be rightfully judged for climbing into that crib in Florida and letting Wade change his diapers.


Okay Dr. Phil.

[badfish22]

I was out with my girlfriend tonight at the Lakewood Landing and I caught glimpses of the game in the first half. How the fuck did it come down to a last-second shot in OT?

What Dragic said, Jason Terry. He was terrible tonight.

[DPG21920]

Dirk now, Dwight for the future.

[HarlemHeat37]

it depends on what your team needs..

if you put Dwight on Dallas, they get a lot worse..they rely heavily on Dirk's scoring and clutch play, and he often carries them on the offensive end..

if you put Dirk on Orlando, they don't gain anything either..they already have a bunch of scorers/shooters, Howard has to anchor their entire D and he's their only rebounder..

if your asking me who I would take on the Spurs, Howard easily..

[Demure]

Howard isn't as experienced and is still young, there's no doubt he's going to be a good player. Over the next few years he's going to develop even more.

[badfish22]

it depends on what your team needs..

if you put Dwight on Dallas, they get a lot worse..they rely heavily on Dirk's scoring and clutch play, and he often carries them on the offensive end..

if you put Dirk on Orlando, they don't gain anything either..they already have a bunch of scorers/shooters, Howard has to anchor their entire D and he's their only rebounder..

if your asking me who I would take on the Spurs, Howard easily..

You were right until that last sentence. And you knew it too

[HarlemHeat37]

If Duncan was in his prime, I'd take Dirk on the Spurs..but Duncan can no longer anchor the paint on the defensive end all by himself, and he's also developed a very reliable outside shot now..so Howard is a much better fit right now, at least IMO..

[jag]

For those saying Dwight because of how young he is, don't let his age fool you. IMO, if he hasn't developed a post game at this point, he never will. He's a lot older than 24 as far as NBA mileage goes, when you consider how much his game is based off athleticism, it's even worse.


This.

[Soul]

Findog just criticized Dwight because of one game, and then criticized the Brandon Bass signing because of a couple weeks of not many minutes.

If only the whole NBA could be criticized off 25 games.

[jag]

I'll poo poo on Dirk all day long...but i respect the hell out of the guy. On a team full of players that will periodically just not show up...he always comes to play.

One of the most impressive things i've ever seen out of him was actually last postseason against Denver. It was like the entire team had given up, but he was out there fighting and working his ass off. He's shit the bed before..but it's cause he's always had to do everything in the clutch. Duncan could give it off to either Parker or Manu in crunch time, Dirk has JT, and he's just not dependable.

[lefty]

If Dirk hadn't a assumed fetal position in Florida in '06 I'd agree with you.

But, he did.
Let's not forget that Dwight assumed the triple decker position during the 2009 Finals

[Findog]

Findog just criticized Dwight because of one game,

We didn't see anything last night that we haven't seen before. You want to beat Orlando? Stay home on their shooters and make Dwight score 35-40 points. Timmy can make you pay for that strategy. Hakeem could too. Dwight can't do it. He's a very good player and he can anchor a defense. That's incredibly valuable. But when is this guy gonna learn how to play center?


and then criticized the Brandon Bass signing because of a couple weeks of not many minutes.


He was a regular rotation player in Dallas. The Magic are basically paying him $8 million this year to sit on the bench. They could've found somebody else to do that for the vet minimum and not pay a dollar for dollar luxury tax on the salary.

[Culburn369]

Let's not forget that Dwight assumed the triple decker position during the 2009 Finals

No. Howard never had it won like Dirk did. Howard has no shame coming. He got Bynumed & Gasoled. Dirk, on the other hand was in full possession of the LOB and simply led his fellows out the side door, enmass when Miami finally resisted. He's never had the screws put to him for his shameful act. He's been permitted to go about his business in Texas without the constant harangue he so richly deserves.

I guess he's lucky.:lol

[redzero]

Dirk over Dwight Howard any day of the week that ends with Y :toast

...but ever day of the week ends wi--OH! I GET IT. DO HO HO HO!

[Muser]

You were right until that last sentence. And you knew it too

No, we already have enough shooters on the team, what we are lacking is a shot blocker who can play heavy minutes next to Tim.

[jacobdrj]

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[pauls931]

He did no such thing.

Did someone come out of the crowd to try to play D on Richardson in your sig?