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mob
12-16-2009, 02:55 AM
Hello,

I am asking a question on behalf of my girlfriend. We are young people and she is looking to start taking birth control pills. We haven't done anything, and don't know how long she has to be on the pill before we are 99.99% risk free in terms of protection.

No jokes please, she is going to a doctor for advice as well. Google didn't help as much as she thought it would.

Thank you

Mrs mob

PM5K
12-16-2009, 04:07 AM
Obviously this is a question a doctor can answer when she goes in for her appointment for a birth control prescription.

Not every question in the world needs to be answered by the internet, some can be answered the good old fashioned way.

sabar
12-16-2009, 05:43 AM
There isn't a need to always use the internet, but it is convenient.

http://www.ffprhc.org.uk/admin/uploads/FirstPrescCombOralContJan06.pdf

Page 9. Depends on circumstances. Almost guaranteed after 7 days in a row.

I'm not a woman, but google doesn't care.

Jekka
12-16-2009, 09:27 AM
Most doctors will tell you to go through a full month's cycle on the pills before fully relying on it, and that's pretty good advice if you're a woman with irregular periods and ovulation. And if she's on anything low dosage, you do HAVE to take it at the same time every day (set a cell phone alarm or something), otherwise it can lose its effectiveness - especially if you take a pill off of schedule in the first week - or it can cause the user to breakthrough bleed.

The differences between the pills are significant - different types of progestin and estrogen, varying dosages of both, or there are some that are progestin-only. It's good to ask the doctor as many questions as you think you may have.

Strike
12-16-2009, 09:31 AM
Keep using condoms, even if she's on the pill. A few minutes of pleasure isn't worth 18 years of child support.

I. Hustle
12-16-2009, 09:42 AM
Just pull out and shoot it in her hair.

z0sa
12-16-2009, 09:44 AM
Just pull out

:tu

Shelly
12-16-2009, 09:59 AM
Pull out method works 100%

Which is why I have a 17 year old! You do realize with the pull out method, guys can still leak something. It doesn't take much to get someone pregnant.

Jekka's post is spot on, but I would still wait a month before solely relying on the pill. It is important to take it around the same time every day. Some women find it easier to remember before they go to be or while they're getting ready for work in the morning. If she misses a day, she should be okay protection wise, but if she misses two days in a row, she needs extra back up. Depending on which pill she's on, it's possible for spotting or not even getting a period at all.

Tell her to make a list of questions to ask her doctor, even if she thinks they sound silly. And Kudos for you for being responsible!

I. Hustle
12-16-2009, 10:06 AM
Which is why I have a 17 year old! You do realize with the pull out method, guys can still leak something. It doesn't take much to get someone pregnant.



First of all LOL @ that
Secondly, he must have waited too long. You probably got the goods and he didn't want to waste a second.

BacktoBasics
12-16-2009, 10:18 AM
Send her over to my place and tell you if she's ready.

z0sa
12-16-2009, 10:20 AM
^ the pullout method won't work if you don't, you know, pull out.

I think the main problem is the magical mystery precum... Ive never had it or seen it in porno, but supposedly it exists for lots of men..

Viva Las Espuelas
12-16-2009, 10:26 AM
Just put it in the butt. Problem solved.

Shelly
12-16-2009, 10:41 AM
First of all LOL @ that
Secondly, he must have waited too long. You probably got the goods and he didn't want to waste a second.

I dunno, but it pretty much worked for about 3 years! But it was all good cuz we had been married for about that long also.

The point is, don't fool yourself into thinking that you're gonna always pull out in time, so either put on a party hat or use some other form of protection!!

Ginobilly
12-16-2009, 10:43 AM
Dude, there's always lone star and wic(women in chanclas) if the pull out method doesn't work.

760Spursfan
12-16-2009, 05:01 PM
Dude, there's always lone star and wic(women in chanclas) if the pull out method doesn't work.
:lmao

I would wait a month just to be on the 99.99% safe side but still use a jimmy hat or pull out.

Frenzy
12-16-2009, 05:14 PM
Pull out method works 100%

worked for me untill 5 years ago. I blame the spurs game that was on at the time. I lost it.:depressed

bus driver
12-16-2009, 05:19 PM
Just put it in the butt. Problem solved.

this doesnt work....the first time i thought it was a fluke so told my girl we try it again.....two kids later :bang

wrap it, although never tried the pull out method.....

I. Hustle
12-16-2009, 05:54 PM
It works trust me. Just pull out and shoot it in her hair. The hair soaks it all up and gives her a shine that you can't get from store bought shampoos.

PM5K
12-16-2009, 05:58 PM
http://maaadddog.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/something_mary.jpg

ORION
12-16-2009, 06:59 PM
You are not supposed to have sex before marriage..... That's why people like myself and Trainwreck wait.

whottt
12-16-2009, 07:14 PM
A word to the wise, I would not ever encourage some chick I like to go on the pill because I believe it makes some of them turn into a bitch when they go on it...I've had that experience more than once. And I think I mentioned that and someone posted a link that it actually does impact them that way sometimes.

Put it this way, if you don't like the girl enough to get her pregnant, then you need to wear a condom, and if not having kids is really that important then it's going to most likely fuck you up a lot less to wear a condom than it is her to undergo a possible complete personality transformation due to altered hormones.

I'm not saying the pill never has it's place, only that it should be a last resort instead of a first.

Strike
12-16-2009, 07:23 PM
A word to the wise, I would not ever encourage some chick I like to go on the pill because I believe it makes some of them turn into a bitch when they go on it...I've had that experience more than once. And I think I mentioned that and someone posted a link that it actually does impact them that way sometimes.

Put it this way, if you don't like the girl enough to get her pregnant, then you need to wear a condom, and if not having kids is really that important then it's going to most likely fuck you up a lot less to wear a condom than it is her to undergo a possible complete personality transformation due to altered hormones.

I'm not saying the pill never has it's place, only that it should be a last resort instead of a first.

My wife tried Depo Provera and it made her bitchy(er than normal). She tried a couple other pills, same thing. So I wore condoms when we had sex despite her objections. The hormonal birth controls definitely screwed with her head but she just wanted to get knocked up, as well. But 9 years later, I'm still child free.

Even if you're married, you should still use some form of birth control unless both of you are trying to have a child.

mrsmaalox
12-16-2009, 07:25 PM
You are not supposed to have sex before marriage..... That's why people like myself and Trainwreck wait.

You 2 will be waiting a long time---marriage between 2 men is still not legal.

Strike
12-16-2009, 07:28 PM
You 2 will be waiting a long time---marriage between 2 men is still not legal.

Unless they move to Massachusetts.

mrsmaalox
12-16-2009, 07:31 PM
Unless they move to Massachusetts.

True. But I don't think they want to leave this area ;)

whottt
12-16-2009, 07:50 PM
My wife tried Depo Provera and it made her bitchy(er than normal). She tried a couple other pills, same thing. So I wore condoms when we had sex despite her objections. The hormonal birth controls definitely screwed with her head but she just wanted to get knocked up, as well. But 9 years later, I'm still child free.

Even if you're married, you should still use some form of birth control unless both of you are trying to have a child.

I think it's a little bit more complex than that strike:


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/article4516566.ece

From The Times August 13, 2008

The Pill may put you off smell of your man and ruin your relationshipMark Henderson, Science Editor
Recommend? (1)
To millions of women it has been the great liberator over the past four decades, allowing them the freedom to control their fertility and their relationships. But the contraceptive Pill could also be responsible for skewing their hormones and attracting them to the “wrong” partner.

A study by British scientists suggests that taking the Pill can change a woman’s taste in men — to those who are genetically less compatible.

The research found that the Pill can alter the type of male scent that women find most attractive, which may in turn affect the kind of men they choose as partners. It suggests that the popular form of contraception — used by a quarter of British women aged between 16 and 50 — could have implications for fertility and relationship breakdowns.

The findings, from a team at the University of Liverpool, add to growing evidence that the hormones in the Pill influence the way that women assess male sexual attractiveness.



The Pill is thought to disrupt an instinctive mechanism that brings together people with complementary genes and immune systems. Such a couple, by passing on a wide-ranging set of immune system genes, increase their chances of having a healthy child that is not vulnerable to infection.

Couples with different genes are also less likely to experience fertility problems or miscarriages. Experts believe that women are naturally attracted to men with immune system genes different to their own because of their smell.

Commenting on the latest study, the researchers said that it could indicate that the Pill disrupts women’s ability to judge the genetic compatibility of men by means of their smell.

They said that this might not only impact on fertility and miscarriage risk, but could even contribute to the end of relationships as women who stop or start taking the Pill no longer find their boyfriend or husband so attractive.

Several previous studies have suggested that women tend to prefer the smell of men who are different from them in a cluster of genes called the major histocompatibility complex (MHC), which governs the immune system. Some of these studies have also found that this effect is not seen among Pill users.

The latest study, published in the journal Proceedings of the Royal Society, has now assessed the impact of Pill use in the same women, both before and after they began using oral contraception. A group of 97 women was tested, some of whom started taking the Pill during the course of the research. All had their MHC genes tested and were asked to sniff T-shirts worn in bed by men with different patterns of MHC genes.

Unlike some previous studies, the research did not find any preference for dissimilar MHC genes. However, when the women started taking the Pill their preferences shifted towards the scent of men with more similar genes to their own.

This suggests that Pill use has an effect on perceptions of scent attractiveness, even if there is no underlying female preference for similar or dissimilar MHC genes.

Craig Roberts, who led the study, said: “The results showed that the preferences of women who began using the Pill shifted towards men with genetically similar odours. Not only could MHC-similarity in couples lead to fertility problems, but it could ultimately lead to the breakdown of relationships when women stop using the Pill, as odour perception plays a significant role in maintaining attraction to partners.”

The research also found differences between women in relationships, who tended to prefer odours of men with different MHC genes, and single women, who tended to prefer the smell of MHC-similar men.

This could potentially indicate that if women are tempted to have an affair, they are more likely to choose a man with very different genes, to maximise the diversity of any offspring that they might have.

The scientists said that more work was needed to explain the way various studies have obtained different results on whether women naturally prefer men with different or similar MHC genes. They also cautioned that the importance of scent in human mating preferences remains uncertain.

The research backs up an earlier study of how women’s perceptions of partners can alter when taking the Pill. Psychologists from St Andrews and Stirling universities found that women on the Pill tend to prefer macho types with strong jaw lines and prominent cheekbones.

However, women who are not taking that form of contraception seem to be more likely to go for more sensitive types of men without traditionally masculine features.









I've also read that it causes depression and can reduce their desire to have sex.


I mean the pill is basically altering a fundamental aspect of what makes them a woman when they go on it.

Just my opinion, but there is some backing behind it.

ORION
12-16-2009, 08:29 PM
You 2 will be waiting a long time---marriage between 2 men is still not legal.

We are not GAY! Our boyfriends are gay. Get it straight

Jekka
12-17-2009, 12:12 AM
I've also read that it causes depression and can reduce their desire to have sex.


I mean the pill is basically altering a fundamental aspect of what makes them a woman when they go on it.

Just my opinion, but there is some backing behind it.

It's really difficult to make generalizations about hormonal birth control pills as a whole - the differences between the myriad of pills out there are significant. While there is really only one synthetic estrogen used, there are 8 different types of progestin used.

They can also be incredibly beneficial to a woman who may have issues with heavy, painful, or irregular periods. Most women are happier for an entire pack that keeps them from enduring hormonal hell than they would be bleeding half the month or more. But, it's all about finding the right pill. Any woman who goes to their doctor and says, "This pill has completely erased my sex drive," will get an appropriate, "We'll change the Rx right away" reaction. But, it can take a lot of pills to find the right one.

sook
12-17-2009, 02:20 AM
It's really difficult to make generalizations about hormonal birth control pills as a whole - the differences between the myriad of pills out there are significant. While there is really only one synthetic estrogen used, there are 8 different types of progestin used.

They can also be incredibly beneficial to a woman who may have issues with heavy, painful, or irregular periods. Most women are happier for an entire pack that keeps them from enduring hormonal hell than they would be bleeding half the month or more. But, it's all about finding the right pill. Any woman who goes to their doctor and says, "This pill has completely erased my sex drive," will get an appropriate, "We'll change the Rx right away" reaction. But, it can take a lot of pills to find the right one.

sorry for the blunt question...but how is it like having a period? I could never imagine something so gross ever happening to me, and it hurts? :married:

dallaskd
12-17-2009, 02:23 AM
'The real point is not to get yourself into this position, that's what you have to realize. You gotta know all the tricks like, for example, if a woman's on top she can't get pregnant. It's just gravity.'

mrsmaalox
12-17-2009, 09:37 AM
We are not GAY! Our boyfriends are gay. Get it straight

Ah. So it will be a double wedding? :toast

I. Hustle
12-17-2009, 09:48 AM
Here are some tips that never fail.

1. Pull out
2. do it standing up
3. let her be on top
4. if you can stomach it do it while she is on her period
5. do it in the butt
6.Tell her to douche afterwards