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Soul_Patch
12-17-2009, 12:25 PM
This shit is like a regular occurance...Im not sure how anyone actually sustains a winning game at these stakes. I had 4 beats like this yesterday, this is my first today.

Full Tilt Poker Game #16874655249: Table Bird Rock - $0.01/$0.02 - No Limit Hold'em - 12:16:52 ET - 2009/12/17
Seat 1: dtaftp ($0.51)
Seat 2: deimonic ($2.15)
Seat 3: Flabbergasted0 ($2.02)
Seat 4: silentomega22 ($0.48)
Seat 5: macchhupicchu ($1.49)
Seat 6: PokerBabeG ($2.17)
Seat 7: ppx ($2.92)
Seat 8: Assassin Xu ($1.98)
Seat 9: Tattle ($2.10)
Assassin Xu posts the small blind of $0.01
Tattle posts the big blind of $0.02
The button is in seat #7
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Tattle [Kd Kc]
dtaftp folds
deimonic calls $0.02
Flabbergasted0 has 15 seconds left to act
Flabbergasted0 folds
silentomega22 calls $0.02
macchhupicchu calls $0.02
PokerBabeG raises to $0.13
ppx folds
Assassin Xu folds
Tattle raises to $0.46
deimonic has 15 seconds left to act
deimonic calls $0.44
silentomega22 folds
macchhupicchu folds
PokerBabeG raises to $1.89
Tattle raises to $2.10, and is all in
deimonic has 15 seconds left to act
deimonic raises to $2.15, and is all in
PokerBabeG calls $0.26
deimonic shows [Qh Jh]
PokerBabeG shows [As Ac]
Tattle shows [Kd Kc]
Tattle: heh
*** FLOP *** [2h 5s 3d]
*** TURN *** [2h 5s 3d] [Qd]
*** RIVER *** [2h 5s 3d Qd] [Qc]
deimonic shows three of a kind, Queens
PokerBabeG shows two pair, Aces and Queens
deimonic wins the side pot ($0.09) with three of a kind, Queens
Tattle shows two pair, Kings and Queens
deimonic wins the main pot ($5.93) with three of a kind, Queens
Tattle: rofl
PokerBabeG adds $1.98
Tattle is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $6.45 Main pot $6.35. Side pot $0.10. | Rake $0.43
Board: [2h 5s 3d Qd Qc]
Seat 1: dtaftp didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: deimonic showed [Qh Jh] and won ($6.02) with three of a kind, Queens
Seat 3: Flabbergasted0 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: silentomega22 folded before the Flop
Seat 5: macchhupicchu folded before the Flop
Seat 6: PokerBabeG showed [As Ac] and lost with two pair, Aces and Queens
Seat 7: ppx (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: Assassin Xu (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 9: Tattle (big blind) showed [Kd Kc] and lost with two pair, Kings and Queens

Soul_Patch
12-17-2009, 12:25 PM
I am Tattle btw...in case that wasnt obvious

Heath Ledger
12-17-2009, 01:08 PM
Whats wrong havent you seen a donk suckout before? Nothing to see here move along. :)

Soul_Patch
12-17-2009, 01:28 PM
I guess i rarely see people push over the top of 3 bets with hands like QJ...but at these stakes, it is like a regular occurance. And these goof balls win, more than you would ever expect them to.

Im sure they give it all back eventually, but what sucks is usually after they do this, they leave the table immediately...happens like twice an hour at least.

grjr
12-17-2009, 07:30 PM
The QhJh hand actually had a better chance of winning than you did. If they had 8h7h it would have been even better. I love those small suited connectors in hands where multiple people are raising preflop.

It's better in limit poker though so you don't get all in before you see a flop.

Soul_Patch
12-18-2009, 10:52 AM
The QhJh hand actually had a better chance of winning than you did. If they had 8h7h it would have been even better. I love those small suited connectors in hands where multiple people are raising preflop.

It's better in limit poker though so you don't get all in before you see a flop.

Uh...no

Heads up QJ is a 4.5:1 dog to KK preflop

Holdem Hi: 1712304 enumerated boards
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Qh Jh 309933 18.10 1395820 81.52 6551 0.38 0.183
Kc Kd 1395820 81.52 309933 18.10 6551 0.38 0.817


Three way it is closer, but i still had an edge over QJ

Holdem Hi: 1370754 enumerated boards
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Qh Jh 219480 16.01 1145802 83.59 5472 0.40 0.161
Kc Kd 224877 16.41 1140405 83.20 5472 0.40 0.165
Ad Ah 920925 67.18 444357 32.42 5472 0.40 0.673

Soul_Patch
12-18-2009, 10:53 AM
You are right that 8h7h had a better shot at winning, but id still be a 3:1 favorite.

grjr
12-18-2009, 10:41 PM
Uh...no

Heads up QJ is a 4.5:1 dog to KK preflop

Holdem Hi: 1712304 enumerated boards
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Qh Jh 309933 18.10 1395820 81.52 6551 0.38 0.183
Kc Kd 1395820 81.52 309933 18.10 6551 0.38 0.817


Three way it is closer, but i still had an edge over QJ

Holdem Hi: 1370754 enumerated boards
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Qh Jh 219480 16.01 1145802 83.59 5472 0.40 0.161
Kc Kd 224877 16.41 1140405 83.20 5472 0.40 0.165
Ad Ah 920925 67.18 444357 32.42 5472 0.40 0.673

I didn't mean heads up. Of course KK is better that way. Also, the chick with aces didn't have the Ah so it gives the QhJh hand a better chance of winning than your KK.