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duncan228
12-18-2009, 12:36 PM
What's it like to be Kobe's teammate? (http://www.ocregister.com/sports/bryant-224787-odom-play.html)
By Kevin Ding
The Orange County Register

NEW YORK You saw what it's like to be Kobe Bryant.

The shot, the victory, the glory. The finishing kick in Milwaukee on Wednesday night was a basketball knight in shining armor being the fairest of them all.

Yet what about his teammates? What's it like to be one of them?

Rewind to the start of the Lakers' comeback, after a Bryant jumper first dents the Bucks' comfy 106-100 lead with 1:18 to play. The bucket is enough to spark Bryant's belief in victory into a full flame, which is where the emotion comes from a moment later at the other end.

Milwaukee's Charlie Bell gets a shot off over Bryant, and Pau Gasol is where he's supposed to be with a perfect help-defense block ... except Milwaukee's Ersan Ilyasova is first to reach the rebound and is then fouled by Bryant. It's at this stoppage in play that Bryant is enraged.

He has to tense up his neck and face the floor to suppress his frustrated reaction, to keep it from being an outright rebel yell.

"Box out!" Bryant barks softly, face down, walking away from the play. The words come out hardly loud enough for anyone to hear. When he speaks them, he is not even looking at teammate Lamar Odom. As Ilyasova prepares to shoot free throws, Bryant prowls all over the floor, expending manic energy.

It looks like his dog just pooped in one of his Gucci shoes and peed in the other, but he can't yell at the dog because company is over at his house. So Bryant just seethes, silently screaming. He shakes his head a lot. He steals little glances at Odom from afar.

This is how Bryant does passive-aggressive behavior. Very aggressively.

Bryant never does say a word to Odom, who had tried to guess the direction of the shot when Bell took it instead of staying fundamentally attached to the body of his man, Ilyasova. When the blocked shot took a different route than Odom expected, Ilyasova was left all alone to fetch the ball.

Ilyasova misses the first free throw. He misses the second, too. And when the live ball caroms off the rim, it heads right toward Odom.

It keeps coming down and down and Odom still makes no move forward whatsoever to go get it – to the point that Gasol comes across to collect it before it hits the ground. Odom has stayed rooted to his spot, his butt and back and hands all stuck to Milwaukee's Michael Redd – who isn't even actively trying to rebound – as if demonstrating the perfect box-out for a basketball coaching clinic.

On the Lakers' bench, Andrew Bynum has been watching it all unfold. Upon seeing Odom suddenly morph into a rebounding robot, Bynum falls back in his seat and puts his hands over his face. He cannot stifle his laughter.

Bynum, remember, knows a thing or two circa 2007 about being motivated by Bryant wanting so badly to win now and growing angry if a teammate isn't helping.

After Ilyasova's misses, Bryant scores an improbable 3-point play at the other end, cutting the Bucks' lead to 106-105. The Lakers again hold on defense as Luke Ridnour misses a 3-pointer, but that rebound caroms long and Milwaukee guard Charlie Bell is just flat-out quicker to the ball than Ron Artest, who was initially closer to it.

Bryant is frustrated again, but it's different this time. He is mad, spitting out a profanity to himself during the subsequent clock stoppage, but the sentiment is pure. There is no judgment. Artest just couldn't and didn't make the play because he couldn't and didn't, not because he was unfocused.

Likewise, Bryant directed no wrath at Bynum early in overtime for his lost defensive rebound. Bynum has been consistently bad on the boards lately while the coaches work with him on tracking the flight of the ball better, and on that particular play he had inside position on Andrew Bogut and tried – but just didn't get off the ground well enough to control the ball.

Milwaukee eventually recovered it, though Bryant had no visible reaction at all.

Leadership-wise, this is how Bryant has grown in recent years.

He will still breathe fire if he finds teammates are lax or lazy. Otherwise, he has learned the virtue of patience, understanding that building a winning team is about building up individuals, so long as everybody's really trying.

That approach is all you can ask of your friends, teachers, parents or co-workers: As long as they're consistently fair, you can trust what they tell you. Bryant isn't the fairest of them all in this regard, but he has become fair.

He doesn't rush to judgment, for these days there's no need to rush at all. The Lakers are already champions.

They have nothing to prove, plenty of time to improve and a leader who wants the best for everyone ... almost as much as wants the ball in his hands at the end.

Culburn369
12-18-2009, 12:50 PM
"When 21-year-old center Andrew Bynum came out lackluster in Game 3 (NBA Finals-09), Bryant lit into him during a timeout, loud enough that a sideline reporter could overhear, "Get your head in the fucking game."

21_Blessings
12-18-2009, 01:03 PM
You either submit to Kobe's winning at all costs mentality or you pack your bags.

Culburn369
12-18-2009, 01:08 PM
"I'm going to continue to push and push, and if my teammates can keep up, they will," Bryant says. "If they can't, then they probably won't be here."

Allanon
12-18-2009, 01:20 PM
Rambis indeed found Bynum, sitting in the trainer’s room, eating sugar-soaked cold cereal.

"What are you doing", Rambis asked. "You just can’t leave practice without telling anyone."

"I don’t have any energy and I thought this might give me some, Bynum replied.

iggypop123
12-18-2009, 01:43 PM
what is taking chris richards so long?

MiamiHeat
12-18-2009, 06:50 PM
easy

Take 3-5 shots per game, work your ass off on defense and rebound, and don't expect the ball to be passed to you

when the game is over, STFU and don't complain, let kobe take all the credit.

when payday comes, you will get major $$$ for your compliance.

the end.

Venti Quattro
12-18-2009, 06:52 PM
easy

Take 3-5 shots per game, work your ass off on defense and rebound, and don't expect the ball to be passed to you

when the game is over, STFU and don't complain, let kobe take all the credit.

when payday comes, you will get major $$$ for your compliance.

the end.
Isn't that what Wade is doing right now in Miami?

MiamiHeat
12-18-2009, 07:01 PM
son, fuck wade

now get on topic

chubster
12-18-2009, 07:05 PM
easy

Take 3-5 shots per game, work your ass off on defense and rebound, and don't expect the ball to be passed to you

when the game is over, STFU and don't complain, let kobe take all the credit.

when payday comes, you will get major $$$ for your compliance.

the end.
Actually, as funny as it sounds, I agree.
Work hard, play hard and don't complain.
Shots will be distributed based on pecking order as well as credit for the wins.

MiamiHeat
12-18-2009, 07:09 PM
however

when they asked Kobe to do that

"WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH F SHAQ I WANT AN FINALS MVP" WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

iggypop123
12-18-2009, 07:10 PM
easy

Take 3-5 shots per game, work your ass off on defense and rebound, and don't expect the ball to be passed to you

when the game is over, STFU and don't complain, let kobe take all the credit.

when payday comes, you will get major $$$ for your compliance.

the end.

what took you so long? you should have been the first post of the topic

MiamiHeat
12-18-2009, 07:10 PM
I am just going to love when Pau Gasol decides, yeah, I'm the man too. Fuck this shit, why is Kobe getting all this credit and I barely even shoot?

"If I don't work hard on rebounds, I might not even get a shot attempt" Gasol said recently

ticking time bomb

I am also surprised Odom stayed, but I guess his personality fits into just chilling as a bench player instead of working hard and showing that you can be an All-Star. Odom's lazy ass would rather sit home and smoke weed and eat jawbreakers and hershey bars.

chubster
12-18-2009, 07:31 PM
however

when they asked Kobe to do that

"WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH F SHAQ I WANT AN FINALS MVP" WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Also agreed. He did want to be the man and complained about it.
That's why up until last year people who dislike that behavior kept saying that he couldn't win the ring ever again.

Sucks for them that hard work and dedication always pay off in the end.

chubster
12-18-2009, 07:35 PM
I am just going to love when Pau Gasol decides, yeah, I'm the man too. Fuck this shit, why is Kobe getting all this credit and I barely even shoot?

"If I don't work hard on rebounds, I might not even get a shot attempt" Gasol said recently

ticking time bomb

I am also surprised Odom stayed, but I guess his personality fits into just chilling as a bench player instead of working hard and showing that you can be an All-Star. Odom's lazy ass would rather sit home and smoke weed and eat jawbreakers and hershey bars.
He produces better numbers as 2nd option compared to when he was in Memphis as 1st option. He's winning more. He's more recognized worldwide. And he's slowly but surely shed his "soft" label.


Poor Gasol.

Culburn369
12-18-2009, 07:40 PM
Yep, the moment Bryant rang/sans Daddy, the entire landscape of power in the NBA changed dramatically. Bryant immediately assumed the position of heir apparent to Jordan, and the Boston record of -17- came under intense jeopardy. Ipso facto, seeds of interest were immediately planted that held the thesis that only 10 of the rings should tote the cyphers, not the additional 5 in MN..

Mighty fine times.

MiamiHeat
12-18-2009, 08:15 PM
Also agreed. He did want to be the man and complained about it.
That's why up until last year people who dislike that behavior kept saying that he couldn't win the ring ever again.

Sucks for them that hard work and dedication always pay off in the end.

or really

"Sucks for them that the Lakers stole Derek Fisher and Pau Gasol for nothing"

chubster
12-18-2009, 08:18 PM
or really

"Sucks for them that the Lakers stole Derek Fisher and Pau Gasol for nothing"
And the Bulls acquired Scottie Pippen for Olden Polynice, what's your point?

spursncowboys
12-19-2009, 12:42 PM
I am just going to love when Pau Gasol decides, yeah, I'm the man too. Fuck this shit, why is Kobe getting all this credit and I barely even shoot?

"If I don't work hard on rebounds, I might not even get a shot attempt" Gasol said recently

ticking time bomb

I am also surprised Odom stayed, but I guess his personality fits into just chilling as a bench player instead of working hard and showing that you can be an All-Star. Odom's lazy ass would rather sit home and smoke weed and eat jawbreakers and hershey bars. I think artest is the going to be the first to break.

Culburn369
12-19-2009, 12:52 PM
I think artest is the going to be the first to break.

No. Ariza was first. Artest will have to be at least second.

tee, hee.

ChrisRichards
12-19-2009, 02:30 PM
what is taking chris richards so long?
the thing i dont like with kobe is he's phony.


he acts like he cares about his teammates " hold their head and rubbing his forehead" with them when we all know he's just telling them "yo, just pass me the ball when you're open, i got your back"

http://images.google.com/url?source=imgres&ct=img&q=http://cdn.bleacherreport.com/images_root/image_pictures/0256/5491/102201_feature.jpg&usg=AFQjCNGD-l4NqOuiAX4UD0CYziJ_jnlJng

http://images.google.com/url?source=imgres&ct=img&q=http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2009-05/47208784.jpg&usg=AFQjCNFtaZjEFauPDikyj2pakmlxx3GEbg


that shit is annoying. kobe is a glory hound. he doesnt care if his teammates gets 20% of the teams shots as long as he gets his 50 points and this guy thinks by rubbing his fucking forehead to another player will show that differently.


look at kobe's reaction there. i mean shit your teammate is in pain and you're going to give him the douchebag reaction instead of helping him out?
http://images.google.com/url?source=imgres&ct=img&q=http://lesterslegends.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/andrew-bynum-knee.bmp&usg=AFQjCNEpNpN49CYafHXkmBAoWYMljlgbnw

http://www.slamdunkcentral.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/andrew-bynum-131d.jpg

PGDynasty24
12-19-2009, 03:51 PM
the thing i dont like with kobe is he's phony.


he acts like he cares about his teammates " hold their head and rubbing his forehead" with them when we all know he's just telling them "yo, just pass me the ball when you're open, i got your back"

http://images.google.com/url?source=imgres&ct=img&q=http://cdn.bleacherreport.com/images_root/image_pictures/0256/5491/102201_feature.jpg&usg=AFQjCNGD-l4NqOuiAX4UD0CYziJ_jnlJng

http://images.google.com/url?source=imgres&ct=img&q=http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2009-05/47208784.jpg&usg=AFQjCNFtaZjEFauPDikyj2pakmlxx3GEbg


that shit is annoying. kobe is a glory hound. he doesnt care if his teammates gets 20% of the teams shots as long as he gets his 50 points and this guy thinks by rubbing his fucking forehead to another player will show that differently.


look at kobe's reaction there. i mean shit your teammate is in pain and you're going to give him the douchebag reaction instead of helping him out?
http://images.google.com/url?source=imgres&ct=img&q=http://lesterslegends.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/andrew-bynum-knee.bmp&usg=AFQjCNEpNpN49CYafHXkmBAoWYMljlgbnw

http://www.slamdunkcentral.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/andrew-bynum-131d.jpg


what is he supposed to do you retard,try and help him up and maybe hurt him even more...

ChrisRichards
12-19-2009, 05:03 PM
what is he supposed to do you retard,try and help him up and maybe hurt him even more...
no, kobe can at least show some compassion and support. i saw that game, kobe's face was in disgust. as if bynum wants ti get injured :rolleyes


kobe's just not a great teammate. he elbowed, vujacic and radmanovic. he punched samaki walker, and he hit gasol in the head.


come on, thats just uncalled for.

milkshakeballa
12-19-2009, 06:38 PM
no, kobe can at least show some compassion and support. i saw that game, kobe's face was in disgust. as if bynum wants ti get injured :rolleyes


kobe's just not a great teammate. he elbowed, vujacic and radmanovic. he punched samaki walker, and he hit gasol in the head.


come on, thats just uncalled for.

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