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Goran Tragic
12-19-2009, 10:57 PM
Want to say something that doesn't justify a thread? Say it here.


...The Wizards have the worst D in the league, at least tonight they do.

Chieflion
12-19-2009, 10:58 PM
Fuck you.

Allanon
12-19-2009, 10:59 PM
Who does TJ Ford think he is?

djohn2oo8
12-19-2009, 10:59 PM
Ariza dropped 31 points with 8 rebounds and 5 assists

mystargtr34
12-19-2009, 11:02 PM
Ariza dropped 31 points with 8 rebounds and 5 assists

6 assists.

Allanon
12-19-2009, 11:03 PM
How the F did Houston, Utah and Portland let the Spurs catch them?

mystargtr34
12-19-2009, 11:03 PM
Roy Hibbert is good.

mystargtr34
12-19-2009, 11:03 PM
How the F did Houston, Utah and Portland let the Spurs catch them?

Dont be mad... Lakers have a big lead.

Allanon
12-19-2009, 11:04 PM
Dont be mad... Lakers have a big lead.

Not mad, just surprised as hell.

mystargtr34
12-19-2009, 11:04 PM
Tyler Hansbrough is not good.

Allanon
12-19-2009, 11:12 PM
Want to say something that doesn't justify a thread? Say it here.


...The Wizards have the worst D in the league, at least tonight they do.

That's actually a pretty good observation that nobody talks about. Everybody always talks about them scoring, nobody ever brings up their defense.

Now that I think about it, the Wiz have alot of scorers but they really don't have and defensive standouts.

Chieflion
12-19-2009, 11:14 PM
That's actually a pretty good observation that nobody talks about. Everybody always talks about them scoring, nobody ever brings up their defense.

Now that I think about it, the Wiz have alot of scorers but they really don't have and defensive standouts.
Brendan Haywood.

Allanon
12-19-2009, 11:18 PM
Brendan Haywood.

Haywood's a good rebounder/shot blocker.

But his man defense is aweful.

hater
12-19-2009, 11:25 PM
Celtics gonna get this title in 2010 :( :(

Spurs stil have a chance at the Finals thouhg, so do the Nuggets and Lakers

duncan228
12-19-2009, 11:33 PM
Duncan with 8 offensive boards tonight. :spin

SamoanTD
12-20-2009, 12:11 AM
Who does TJ Ford think he is?
:lmao where does he get off

iggypop123
12-20-2009, 12:33 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v513/tlongII/tlonglocker.jpg

TinTin
12-20-2009, 01:49 AM
I would like to punch ray allen in the face when he is chewing at the ft line

JamStone
12-20-2009, 01:57 AM
7 match-ups between Western Conference teams and Eastern Conference teams last night. WC wins 6 of the 7 and were 4-1 on the road. Only loss by the WC was Portland at Orlando.

Not NBA related, but Dexter Pittman sounds like a 40 year old woman.

TheManFromAcme
12-20-2009, 02:12 AM
Celtics gonna get this title in 2010 :( :(

Spurs stil have a chance at the Finals thouhg, so do the Nuggets and Lakers

If your Spurs are playing so-so ball come the Rodeo road trip and don't get their act straight, you better pull out your best silverware and pick out your fork cause your going to have to stick it in them for they will be D-O-N-E.
This is the realistic and daunting time table they are faced with. You will be fooling yourself if you think that come Mid to late February they will still "have time". :nope

They have roughly 30-35 days to do this. Tick, Tock, Tick, Tock.

23LeBronJames23
12-20-2009, 02:13 AM
Shaq is old

Chieflion
12-20-2009, 02:39 AM
Haywood's a good rebounder/shot blocker.

But his man defense is aweful.
Dude, where did you get that information from? He is a decent man defender. Right now, your description looks like you are talking about Marcus Camby.

tomtom
12-20-2009, 03:08 AM
Omri Casspi is a stud

jacobdrj
12-20-2009, 03:35 AM
Haywood's a good rebounder/shot blocker.

But his man defense is aweful.

This.

Venti Quattro
12-20-2009, 04:02 AM
Why does Atlanta's arena attendance stink? Their Hawks don't play boring ball and aren't losing either

Venti Quattro
12-20-2009, 04:02 AM
Shaq is old

Not a random thought. This is a fact of life son.

Allanon
12-20-2009, 06:03 AM
Dude, where did you get that information from? He is a decent man defender. Right now, your description looks like you are talking about Marcus Camby.

I get the info from watching the games. Just watch any time a decent big man goes up against him. Decent big men get career nights and look like All Stars against Haywood.

Chieflion
12-20-2009, 08:18 AM
I get the info from watching the games. Just watch any time a decent big man goes up against him. Decent big men get career nights and look like All Stars against Haywood.
Then again, he does not have anyone helping him out on defense.

DeadlyDynasty
12-20-2009, 08:46 AM
I wanna swallow a box of nails

pauls931
12-20-2009, 08:47 AM
Who'd a thunk it, a Troll coming up with a good thread idea.

mojorizen7
12-20-2009, 10:23 AM
Ima fantasy basketball Zenmaster and my team is R8ping the competition yet again this year.

Venti Quattro
12-20-2009, 10:25 AM
Ima fantasy basketball Zenmaster and my team is R8ping the competition yet again this year.
Pics or it ain't true.

Brazil
12-20-2009, 10:43 AM
my fantasy team doesn't thank bynum and redd

mojorizen7
12-20-2009, 11:00 AM
Pics? I'll just name drop.
12 teams,Lakers Suck is at a + 30 games played already.

A.Stoudemire
Nash
Camby
Ray Allen
Nene
Tyreke Evans
Mario Chalmers
Jason Terry
B.Wallace
Birdman
C.Douglas Roberts
Thaddeus Young
Jared Dudley

1. GUT CHECK TRAINWRECK 80.5
2. Lakers Suck 80
3. NYknicks 70.5
4. Boxout 69.5
5. Banana Slugs 61
6. HOOSIER DADDY 60
7. green machine 53
8. Brooksy 50
9. swoosh baby 49
10. supertarqb2 46
11. montamorrowcurryers 42.5
12. Big Guns 40

pauls931
12-20-2009, 07:13 PM
Yup, that KG, Jefferson trade is really working out for the wolves. Give'm hell Big Al!!!!

Allanon
12-21-2009, 03:27 AM
1) CP3
2) DWill
3) Nash
4) Tyreke Evans

Allanon
12-21-2009, 12:20 PM
7 match-ups between Western Conference teams and Eastern Conference teams last night. WC wins 6 of the 7 and were 4-1 on the road. Only loss by the WC was Portland at Orlando.

Just out today.

East vs. West: The West leads 89-60 (0.597) in inter-conference games and was 18-9 this week

Goran Dragic
12-21-2009, 12:38 PM
1) CP3
2) DWill
3) Nash
4) Tyreke Evans


I agree. Ty Evans is already a top 5 PG. He's that good.

mogrovejo
12-21-2009, 01:08 PM
I get the info from watching the games. Just watch any time a decent big man goes up against him. Decent big men get career nights and look like All Stars against Haywood.

Maybe because he's always out of position trying to stop all the penetration that their porous perimeter defense allows?

Go learn to see basketball, counterpart production is garbage as an indicator. Haywood is an excellent defender.

mogrovejo
12-21-2009, 01:11 PM
Nate Robinson wants to be traded to the Cs.

http://espn.go.com/nba/dailydime/_/page/dime-091220/daily-dime

Pretty sure this won't happen (btw, this article has an error, Giddens and Walker don't have guaranteed contracts next season).

BadOdor
12-21-2009, 01:13 PM
Maybe because he's always out of position trying to stop all the penetration that their porous perimeter defense allows?

Go learn to see basketball, counterpart production is garbage as an indicator. Haywood is an excellent defender.

You're talking to a guy who said "Z Randolph is as good as he'll ever get". He knows jack shit about basketball.

pauls931
12-21-2009, 01:39 PM
Culburn is becoming a fat troll with all the feed we're providing him.

Culburn369
12-21-2009, 01:43 PM
You could always go upstairs to the Big Board. That's where I've run a passle of ya's off to already.

Allanon
12-21-2009, 01:45 PM
Maybe because he's always out of position trying to stop all the penetration that their porous perimeter defense allows?

Go learn to see basketball, counterpart production is garbage as an indicator. Haywood is an excellent defender.

Go learn not to make excuses. In one thread you live off your stupid stats, in this thread you only have excuses. Which one is it going to be?

:lol

Allanon
12-21-2009, 01:46 PM
You're talking to a guy who said "Z Randolph is as good as he'll ever get". He knows jack shit about basketball.

Find me even one quote.

Where did I ever say this? Yah stupid pink fuck. :lol

BadOdor
12-21-2009, 01:56 PM
Find me even one quote.

Where did I ever say this? Yah stupid pink fuck. :lol

75 win ecstasy, bitch.

Allanon
12-21-2009, 01:57 PM
75 win ecstasy, bitch.

I thought so, you couldn't find any quotes, eh pink bitch? Did I say this too? :lol


You're talking to a guy who said "Z Randolph is as good as he'll ever get". He knows jack shit about basketball.

Dumb fuck making shit up :lol

mogrovejo
12-21-2009, 02:07 PM
Go learn not to make excuses. In one thread you live off your stupid stats, in this thread you only have excuses. Which one is it going to be?

:lol

What? Stats? Excuses?

Haywood is a very good defender. In fact his on-the-ball defence on the post is his best attribute as a player, his biggest strength. He's also a good pick'n'roll defender. Good shot-blocker. Great combination of size and quickness. Very sound from a fundamentals perspective. Fast changing ends on transition.

Allanon
12-21-2009, 02:17 PM
What? Stats? Excuses?

Hold on, I'll go find your stupid stats thread. It's that one where you bitched out and ran :lol

Let me go search for that stats thread, it will be fun.

Excuses is what you're making for Haywood in this thread; when you have no stats to back it up. :lol



Haywood is a very good defender. In fact his on-the-ball defence on the post is his best attribute as a player, his biggest strength. He's also a good pick'n'roll defender. Good shot-blocker. Great combination of size and quickness. Very sound from a fundamentals perspective. Fast changing ends on transition.

Yes, this is why other opposing Centers have big nights against him.

Great logic Celticfan.

mogrovejo
12-21-2009, 05:35 PM
Hold on, I'll go find your stupid stats thread. It's that one where you bitched out and ran :lol

Let me go search for that stats thread, it will be fun.

Okay, find it.


Excuses is what you're making for Haywood in this thread; when you have no stats to back it up. :lol

Okay, what stats do you want me to use?


Yes, this is why other opposing Centers have big nights against him.

Great logic Celticfan.

You mean, like opposing centers used to have big nights against, say, Perkins, when the Celtics were one of the worst defensive teams in the league, or Bogut, when the Bucks were the worst defensive team in the league, etc etc.?

You're a know-nothing. Big men get creamed all the time if the perimeter defense doesn't work. If the guards are too slow fighting the screen, they'll leave their big man out to dry so long, making them unable to recover for his man. If they're getting broken down, the big man will have to step out to deny penetration, leaving his man alone. Fuck, this is so 101. Again, you're a know-nothing. Go learn to see the game.

BUMP
12-21-2009, 05:38 PM
Where will Shaq play next?

pauls931
12-21-2009, 05:40 PM
Where will Shaq play next?

Dallas.

Allanon
12-21-2009, 05:51 PM
Okay, find it.

Right here, stats bitch. BTW, you never responded to the thread; you can do it now:
http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=138841&page=13



Okay, what stats do you want me to use?

Do your own homework and make your own arguments, not excuses.



You mean, like opposing centers used to have big nights against, say, Perkins, when the Celtics were one of the worst defensive teams in the league, or Bogut, when the Bucks were the worst defensive team in the league, etc etc.?

Perkins and Bogut when they were Rookies? Haywood's an 8 year pro and still lets other Big men punish him and that's a "good man defender" to you?



You're a know-nothing. Big men get creamed all the time if the perimeter defense doesn't work. If the guards are too slow fighting the screen, they'll leave their big man out to dry so long, making them unable to recover for his man. If they're getting broken down, the big man will have to step out to deny penetration, leaving his man alone. Fuck, this is so 101. Again, you're a know-nothing. Go learn to see the game.

Hahah, what a stupid fuck you are. When the stats fail to back you up, you resort to excuses as "basketball knowledge".

You use stats when it fits you and make up shit when it doesn't. :lol

Ghazi
12-21-2009, 05:58 PM
I wouldn't argue with mogro, that dude knows his shit!

Also, I noticed the Mavs have TWO Sat/Sun back to backs within the next 2 weeks. Isnt that usually rare in the NBA? I cant recall the last time the Mavs had a Sat/Sun back to back.

mogrovejo
12-21-2009, 06:16 PM
Right here, stats bitch. BTW, you never responded to the thread; you can do it now:
http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=138841&page=13


Since when is that thread about using stats to evaluate players? :bang:bang

You must think I'm a basement dweller like yourself to spend my life here talking about basketball with know-nothings like you. If you want me to answer to every piece of crap you post here, you better start putting a notice when in threads I'm posting or send a PM or something, because I'm not screening this forum every day.




Perkins and Bogut when they were Rookies? Haywood's an 8 year pro and still lets other Big men punish him and that's a "good man defender" to you?

No, when they didn't have other good defenders to play alongside them. What's so difficult to understand about this?


Hahah, what a stupid fuck you are. When the stats fail to back you up, you resort to excuses as "basketball knowledge".

You use stats when it fits you and make up shit when it doesn't.


When have I used stats to evaluate a player's defence? But if you want stats, here are some (disclaimer: I do not endorse the use of stats to evaluate a players defence):

Wizards points allowed per 100 possessions when Haywood is on the floor:
107.4

Wizards points allowed per 100 possessions when Haywood is off the floor:
113.7

Wizards eFG% allowed when Haywood is on the floor:
48.1%

Wizards eFG% allowed when Haywood is off the floor:
50.7%

Here, you have your stats. Now go learn to see the game, as stats won't help you to know what makes a good defender.

Allanon
12-21-2009, 06:35 PM
Since when is that thread about using stats to evaluate players? :bang:bang

You must think I'm a basement dweller like yourself to spend my life here talking about basketball with know-nothings like you. If you want me to answer to every piece of crap you post here, you better start putting a notice when in threads I'm posting or send a PM or something, because I'm not screening this forum every day.


You conveniently "forget" threads where you look stupid :lol



No, when they didn't have other good defenders to play alongside them. What's so difficult to understand about this?
What's so difficult to understand about making excuses and rookies? You're making excuses for an 8 year pro and comparing him to guys in their rookie years. Yet you claim "he's a great defender".



When have I used stats to evaluate a player's defence? But if you want stats, here are some (disclaimer: I do not endorse the use of stats to evaluate a players defence):

Oh there's stats you can use and stats you can't use when they don't work with your stupid opinion. Gotcha.



Here, you have your stats. Now go learn to see the game, as stats won't help you to know what makes a good defender.
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Good for you. And you telling us over and over that Haywood is a great defender because "he is" is just great

Go learn something and get back to me bandwagon fan :lol

tomtom
12-22-2009, 02:48 AM
Jennings or Evans?

sa_kid20
12-22-2009, 02:57 AM
Al Harrington looks like a Ninja Turtle.

mojorizen7
12-22-2009, 03:11 AM
Al Harrington looks like a Ninja Turtle.
"I like dem cartoons....ninjaturtlesizcoolbroknowwhatim sayin'?"
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/165207/shawn_marion1_medium.jpg

Chieflion
12-22-2009, 03:24 AM
Jennings or Evans?
Tyreke Evans. Jennings is falling back to Earth.

timtonymanu
12-22-2009, 03:37 AM
Where are the first two picks of the 2009 NBA draft?

dirk4mvp
12-22-2009, 03:40 AM
Where are the first two picks of the 2009 NBA draft?

Thabeet is starting to play alright. He's already an awesome defender now that he's cutting back on fouls. Everything else about his game is a work in progress.

pauls931
12-22-2009, 08:05 AM
Are culburn369 and miamiheat one and the same? Nonstop flame bait.

Culburn369
12-22-2009, 10:18 AM
What can I say, it's a liberal TOS.

Daddy-O, I'm home.

mystargtr34
12-23-2009, 11:09 PM
Jerryd Bayless is a stud.

TIMMYD!
01-01-2010, 08:36 PM
I have a big cock.

Brazil
01-01-2010, 08:49 PM
since when Kevin Love has more PT than AJ ?

Purch
01-02-2010, 01:34 AM
Why the fuck is Deron Still playing when all he is doing is making his finger hurt worse?

Also hop on the Wes Matthews bandwagon....... now

mogrovejo
01-02-2010, 02:11 AM
The Celtics are without Rondo, Pierce, Garnett, Marquis Daniels and Glenn Davis for tomorrow's game versus the Raptors. D-League stalwart JR Giddens to start.

Venti Quattro
01-02-2010, 02:23 AM
I just noticed now but the Cavs now lead the East?

Kori Ellis
01-02-2010, 03:12 AM
Once when timvp was sleeping, I put a Laker warmup jacket on him and took a picture.

That picture must be on SpursTalk somewhere. Hmm...

mogrovejo
01-02-2010, 03:24 AM
BDSM forum, public humiliation thread.

BadOdor
01-02-2010, 03:25 AM
Katelin Faber is harlem heat's sister/mother.

pauls931
01-02-2010, 08:41 AM
Are culburn369 and miamiheat one and the same? Nonstop flame bait.

So was I right?

edit: Looks like I'm wrong, I just read a coherent non hate filled reply from Miamiheat in another thread...

Muser
01-02-2010, 09:22 AM
does bynum suck?

Rogue
01-02-2010, 10:00 AM
does bynum suck?
yes, he sucks equal pathetically as John Terry did when http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01211/john_terry_1211989c.jpg

James David Manning
01-02-2010, 01:58 PM
So was I right?

edit: Looks like I'm wrong, I just read a coherent non hate filled reply from Miamiheat in another thread...


MiamiHeat is no worse than 21_Palins. If he deserves to be banned, then 21_crack_whore_moms does as well.

Brazil
01-02-2010, 03:16 PM
Once when timvp was sleeping, I put a Laker warmup jacket on him and took a picture.

That picture must be on SpursTalk somewhere. Hmm...

:lol I have to see that picture

IronMexican
01-02-2010, 03:17 PM
yes, he sucks equal pathetically as John Terry did when http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01211/john_terry_1211989c.jpg

They wouldn't have been in that position without Terry. He made a great defensive header to stop a sure goal.

iggypop123
01-02-2010, 03:23 PM
reports say wade is with Gabrielle Union. i cant blame the guy for upgrading , but isnt he still married? at least leave your bitch before you upgrade, but then again i would have a hard time waiting on this:

http://theybf.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/gallery_enlarged-91227W4_UNION_B-GR_09.jpg

Muser
01-02-2010, 03:37 PM
yes, he sucks equal pathetically as John Terry did when http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01211/john_terry_1211989c.jpg


I can't really laugh at the big dogs in the Premiership, but :lmao.

DAF86
01-02-2010, 03:45 PM
Once when timvp was sleeping, I put a Laker warmup jacket on him and took a picture.

That picture must be on SpursTalk somewhere. Hmm...

That's divorce worthy.

P/S: WTF were you doing with a Lakers warmup jacket? :nope

IronMexican
01-02-2010, 03:49 PM
gMD8iFrqiXQ

Xylus
01-02-2010, 03:55 PM
If my head was in the way of the ball like that, I'd give up the goal.

milkshakeballa
01-02-2010, 03:58 PM
gMD8iFrqiXQ


sick....

iggypop123
01-02-2010, 04:08 PM
Once when timvp was sleeping, I put a Laker warmup jacket on him and took a picture.

That picture must be on SpursTalk somewhere. Hmm...

im sure blue jew can find that pic. get to work. this is a must see

Brazil
01-20-2010, 07:31 PM
wow Granger is struggling hard lately tonite 2 min 3 PF 0-2 2 TOs