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Marcus Bryant
12-22-2009, 04:50 PM
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1209/30896.html
Marcus Bryant
12-22-2009, 04:52 PM
What exactly is it about the GOP that makes it comfortable for a Democrat to switch?
boutons_deux
12-22-2009, 04:55 PM
This "Dem" voted nearly a straight Repug party line on all the big bills.
The Dems won't miss him.
Wild Cobra
12-22-2009, 06:00 PM
What exactly is it about the GOP that makes it comfortable for a Democrat to switch?
I think he is just choosing the lesser of two evils.
Nbadan
12-22-2009, 07:59 PM
...so, he's breaking his contract with Democratic voters who are a majority in his county...
Nbadan
12-22-2009, 08:00 PM
...by the way, I thought this thread was about Ben Nelson...
DMX7
12-22-2009, 08:28 PM
Big deal, he represents a conservative base anyway. No clue how he got elected as a Dem.
spursncowboys
12-22-2009, 08:33 PM
What exactly is it about the GOP that makes it comfortable for a Democrat to switch?

Wouldn't it be what are the Dems doing that would make him so uncomfortable not to stay. I saw this happening when I saw the Dem conservatives the DNC putting up in 06.
spursncowboys
12-22-2009, 08:35 PM
...so, he's breaking his contract with Democratic voters who are a majority in his county...

So we are just electing political parties?
TheProfessor
12-22-2009, 08:43 PM
Politico's really playing this up, but I don't see what the big deal is - his votes pretty much aligned against Dem's on every major issue as was.
TheProfessor
12-22-2009, 08:44 PM
So we are just electing political parties?
Yeah, I doubt his constituents will care all that much, though conservatives might want someone with better credentials, rather than a convert.
ElNono
12-22-2009, 09:32 PM
So we are just electing political parties?

What do YOU think you're electing?
boutons_deux
12-22-2009, 09:34 PM
He also stiffed the Dem party for $1M they gave him to finance his campaign.
Marcus Bryant
12-22-2009, 09:35 PM
If it's easy to switch, there must not be that much of a difference. Ditto for Arlen.
ElNono
12-22-2009, 10:17 PM
If it's easy to switch, there must not be that much of a difference. Ditto for Arlen.

You don't get it. They're "independents"...
spursncowboys
12-22-2009, 10:45 PM
What do YOU think you're electing?

The person. I never vote down party lines. Every promise and goal the politician makes or leads to, I hold that person accountable. I remember when this happened in 02 and I automatically went against it because of political parties. then I realized it doesn't matter, or shouldn't matter, what party they were. I know in reality it does, with all the rules and finances but if we make a law against changing parties then we have given up the reforming idea, no matter how bleak it is.
admiralsnackbar
12-23-2009, 07:46 AM
You don't get it. They're "independents"...

To break and side with another party secures you campaigning funds like those you received from your original party. I dislike Lieberman, but at least he runs his own party -- even if he has to suck-up to the scourge of humanity to get his funding.
ElNono
12-23-2009, 10:01 AM
The person. I never vote down party lines. Every promise and goal the politician makes or leads to, I hold that person accountable. I remember when this happened in 02 and I automatically went against it because of political parties. then I realized it doesn't matter, or shouldn't matter, what party they were. I know in reality it does, with all the rules and finances but if we make a law against changing parties then we have given up the reforming idea, no matter how bleak it is.

Have you ever voted for a Democrat?
ElNono
12-23-2009, 10:02 AM
To break and side with another party secures you campaigning funds like those you received from your original party. I dislike Lieberman, but at least he runs his own party -- even if he has to suck-up to the scourge of humanity to get his funding.

No doubt. But as Marcus said, if it's so easy to switch parties, then there must not be many fundamental differences between them, if any.
spursncowboys
12-23-2009, 10:11 AM
Have you ever voted for a Democrat?

I voted for H. Cuellar.
ElNono
12-23-2009, 12:37 PM
I voted for H. Cuellar.

Good for you... :tu
Was this in 2008? Out of curiosity, what didn't you like about Fish?
Wild Cobra
12-23-2009, 04:58 PM
Big deal, he represents a conservative base anyway. No clue how he got elected as a Dem.
I don't know who he replaced. Did he replace a liberal pork spending republican?

Republican does not always mean conservative you know.
Wild Cobra
12-23-2009, 05:03 PM
Yeah, I doubt his constituents will care all that much, though conservatives might want someone with better credentials, rather than a convert.
Depends. If he's more conservative that today's republicans, what's wrong with that?

I haven't looked up who he is, his record, or anything. I simply dislike people looking at it from a partisan standpoint.
Marcus Bryant
12-23-2009, 05:08 PM
I don't know who he replaced. Did he replace a liberal pork spending republican?

Republican does not always mean conservative you know.

Republican never means conservative these days.
Marcus Bryant
12-23-2009, 05:09 PM
Bill Clinton was more conservative than over half of today's House GOP.
panic giraffe
12-23-2009, 05:52 PM
yea this is akin to say......liberman deciding to be a repug, or say year 2000 mccain going indie or dem, doesn't make a difference......
Wild Cobra
12-23-2009, 05:52 PM
Bill Clinton was more conservative than over half of today's House GOP.
I hate to agree, but yes. I do agree.

That's pretty damn pathetic.