0-17 stretch in the 4th quarter?!!!

[nacho estrada]

Damn, that was disgusting.

[ALVAREZ6]

we suck

[texbumTHElife]

Vintage Spurs, lets see if they respond like they did in the Phoenix series a few years ago.

[ShoogarBear]

Well, the personnel change but the tendencies don't seem to.

[nacho estrada]

nah, we sucked. I think that was about as shitty as we've been in any fourth quarter all year long. 1-0 Denver.

[leemajors]

no other words to say besides sad. why were horry, robinson and barry on the bench for so long? at least they may make something. nuggets have held us to almost 20 mins scoreless at the ends of games on our home floor.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Well, the personnel change but the tendencies don't seem to.

Shoogar, you're a dick. You don't know shit. Pop has two rings[/tpark]

It's okay, Denver will send us on our way and the fucking Popapologists will look past our anemic offense and blame it on Duncan being hurt and Barry and Udrih not doing anything.

We'll trade a few people, make a few free agent signings, and then do the same stupid shit on offense in the fourth and do it all again next year.

[GrandeDavid]

Soft punk ass little viados.

[T Park]

Duncan couldn't make shit.

Parker couldn't defend.


Barry missed the game on account of a car accident on I 10.


What should pop have done???

Just curious...

[GrandeDavid]

viados = "fags" in Portuguese.

[whottt]

This loss is on Pop...

Our guys had zero confidence...

And we went 0-17 without a single change to the rotation and left Barry and Robinson sitting on the bench...

Was fucking stupid...does no good to have those guys if you aren't going to give them an opportunity...was obvious the starters were cold.

It's on Pop. 100%.

[Jimcs50]

Here is the reason why we lost. This gave Denver confidence for the 2nd half and they played with it the whole 2nd half.:




0:32 44-52 Manu Ginobili made slam dunk. Assisted by Tony Parker.
0:27 Denver 20 Sec. Timeout.
0:27 Earl Boykins enters the game for DerMarr Johnson. 44-52
0:27 44-52 Beno Udrih enters the game for Tony Parker.
0:12 Andre Miller made 7 ft jumper. 46-52
0:07 46-52 Beno Udrih Lost Ball. Stolen by Marcus Camby.
0:05 Marcus Camby made layup. 48-52
0:05 48-52 Robert Horry Shooting Foul. His 2nd Personal Foul.
0:05 DerMarr Johnson enters the game for Earl Boykins. 48-52
0:05 48-52 Tony Parker enters the game for Beno Udrih.
0:05 Marcus Camby made Free Throw 1 of 1. 49-52
0:03 49-52 Manu Ginobili Offensive Foul. His 3rd Personal Foul.
0:03 49-52 Manu Ginobili Turnover
0:03 Earl Boykins enters the game for Greg Buckner. 49-52
0:03 Wesley Person enters the game for DerMarr Johnson. 49-52
0:03 49-52 Brent Barry enters the game for Manu Ginobili.
0:00 Andre Miller made 41 ft three pointer. Assisted by Marcus Camby.



8-0 run in last 27 secs. 6 pts in last 12 secs.

[whottt]

Duncan couldn't make shit.

Parker couldn't defend.

Who left them out there dumbfuck? Do you think they did it to themselves?

Bowen hadn't hit a shot all fucking game either...



Barry missed the game on account of a car accident on I 10.

Barry wasn't the guy that went 0-17, nor was he the guy that let the starters go 0-17 without a single substitution.

This loss is on fucking Pop 100000000000000000%.



What should pop have done???

Just curious...

Stopped running 4 fucking down...put someone out there who actually attempts to find someone that is open rather than forcing up bad shots and making bad passes...

Don't fucking blame the players...stop fucking blaming the players...this shit has been happening to use since before anyone but Duncan was on the fucking team...how hard is to figure out who the real cause is?

You have a great deep bench? Why not fucking use it?



Were Bowen, Manu and Parker the problem when it happened to us in 2001?

Figure it out...

[ALVAREZ6]

we suck

[dcole50]

we suck
59 wins, man are we terrible.

[Leetonidas]

I wish people would quit blaming Pop.

I swear, half of you people here are bandwagoners.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

59 wins, man are we terrible.

When do we get a trophy for that one?

[3rdCoast]

Duncan couldn't make shit.

Parker couldn't defend.


Barry missed the game on account of a car accident on I 10.


What should pop have done???

Just curious...

What?Barry missed the game due to an accident? I only saw the last quarter of the game and didn't catch that.Are you serious?

[dcole50]

59 regular season wins means that we don't suck. alvarez seems ready to kill himself after game one of the playoffs.

[whottt]

59 wins, man are we terrible.

Yeah congrats...tell me if the parade for winning 59 games is any fun.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

dcole,

The problem is people like you who hold up our regular season wins as proof of anything.

Unless you win in the playoffs, it doesn't matter. There's no trophies for regular season wins, no parades, no rings, no world championships.

About the only thing you can win an award for with a lot of regular season wins and no postseason titles is being an underachiever.

[ShoogarBear]

What?Barry missed the game due to an accident? I only saw the last quarter of the game and didn't catch that.Are you serious?
:lmao

[nacho estrada]

Is this the worst the Spurs have shot for a quarter in the playoffs? It's got to be close, if not a record. The Spurs went 4-for-21 :oops :oops :oops in the fourth.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

You must not have been a Spurs fan very long.

In the last five years they've had multiple fourth quarters like this. I can even remember them doing the same shit back in the early 90s when they were losing to Run TMC.

[nacho estrada]

I've been a Spurs fan pretty long AHF, I'm only 27 but I know my fair share of hoops knowledge.(including why the Spurs wanted to keep Wilks on the playoff roster to guard- Earl Boykins, not Andre Miller, as you stated in the game thread.)

Just thought I'd drop some knowledge for ya.. Ok, back to the topic.. Oh trust me I know we're notorious for blowing leads in the fourth, but I wanted to know the WORST fourth quarter in the history of the Spurs playoff opportunities. I figured that 4-21 would be pretty damn close to a record. So do you know? :fro

[Spurminator]

Since it's the topic of the thread, here are the 17 shots we missed.

9:48 * 77-81 Manu Ginobili missed 6 ft running jumper.

9:44 * 77-81 Tim Duncan missed 7 ft jumper.

9:15 * 77-81 Tim Duncan missed 4 ft jumper.

8:36 * 79-81 Manu Ginobili missed 24 ft three point jumper.

7:47 * 79-81 Beno Udrih missed 25 ft three point jumper.

7:16 * 79-81 Glenn Robinson missed 10 ft jumper.

6:15 * 79-81 Glenn Robinson missed 23 ft three point jumper.

5:48 * 79-81 Robert Horry missed 5 ft two point shot.

4:54 * 81-81 Manu Ginobili missed 25 ft three point jumper.

3:31 * 83-82 Tim Duncan missed 8 ft two point shot.

3:16 * 83-82 Tim Duncan missed layup.

2:32 * 83-83 Manu Ginobili missed jumper.

1:42 * 85-84 Tony Parker missed 8 ft two point shot.

1:34 * 85-84 Tony Parker missed running jumper.

0:38 * 88-84 Tim Duncan missed 6 ft two point shot.

0:33 * 88-84 Tim Duncan missed layup.

0:18 * 91-84 Tim Duncan missed 8 ft jumper.

Missed Shots:
Duncan: 7
Ginobili: 4
Parker: 2
Robinson: 2
Udrih: 1
Horry: 1

3 Pointers: 4
Shots in the paint: 10

[sungo99]

Popovich fouled Duncan on at least three of those.

[nacho estrada]

Baffling. Disgusting. Dissapointing. All these things come into mind with that breakdown of the fourth. 3 points in the last nine minutes is inexcusable . Denver thinks they can lock us up now after that joke of a quarter.

[ShoogarBear]

Spurm, you're going straight to hell for posting these lies.

Everyone knows that out of the 17, Duncan missed 10, and Parker missed the other 10.

[TMSKILZ]

We'll be fine, still think we take this in 6.

Rasho's return will only help (DEF) us, hopefully Barry contributes in the Pts area & Nazr can continue to improve.

[firepopovich]

(denial mode on)

[baseline bum]

Brent Barry didn't do shit. Not a fucking point in 19 minutes. No way that POS should have been in. Glenn Robinson sucks too.

[whottt]

Brent Barry didn't do shit. Not a fucking point in 19 minutes. No way that POS should have been in. Glenn Robinson sucks too.

Well they weren't...so I guess you're happy with the result.

[whottt]

Spurm, you're going straight to hell for posting these lies.

Everyone knows that out of the 17, Duncan missed 10, and Parker missed the other 10.



Check who missed all the shots in the last 5 minutes of the game...

[wildbill2u]

Close down the lane and the Spurs are in trouble. Parker and Manu aren't going to get any easy fouls in the 4th quarter when driving the lane. Any good zone defense can do it, especially when Bowen wont take a shot when open.

I have hopes for GRobinson because he WILL take a shot. Barry still seems afraid to open up and has no confidence.

[Spurminator]

I think you guys are overanalyzing. The offense was fine without Glenn Robinson on the floor and with Brent Barry seeing spare minutes for 3 quarters. We were shooting 50+%, even with basically 4 players on offense while Bowen hung back to protect against the break.

What changed in the 4th? The shots didn't go in. I would have definitely liked to see some adjustments at THAT particular time in order to score a few points, but I'm not concerned about our overall approach to the game, and I don't see a need to adjust rotations or minutes.

[whottt]

The guys we had out there pressed and all of them lost confidence in their shots...I think they did force it and by and large once they penetrated they didn't look to find an open teamate who might be more set...

All Denver did was clog the paint, same thing that has beaten us for years and years...even if the guys were open it was crowded...No one played like a PG in the final minutes...Parker, Duncan and Manu all tried to do it by themselves...

[Kori Ellis]

Duncan was 0-for-7 in the fourth quarter. Let's just blame him and move on.

[sungo99]

Duncan was 0-for-7 in the fourth quarter. Let's just blame him and move on.
BLASPHEMY!

[HB22inSA]

Well, Duncan being 0-7 doesn't tell the whole story.

I hate to compare, but great teams, say, for instance, an MJ-led Bulls team would never have let the 4th quarter happen.

If MJ was 0-7 in the 4th, I guarantee he's going to the line 14 times, because he realizes his shot isn't falling, and he'll become overly agressive.

Duncan did not do this and it's not the first time this has happened to him. Ginobili was somewhat aggressive, but the whole team seemed like it tightened up in the final minutes.

Veteran, battle-tested, Championship teams (like many have described the Spurs) don't let that happen.

[nuggets in 6]

The 10 min 4th quarter drought was due to the sufficating Nugget's defense and nothing else

[nuggets in 6]

I love watching you Spurs fans fight with each other. :lol Thats good, blame it on the coach. The coach doesn't play he just coaches. What do u want? Should Pop be fired so the Spurs can try to bring in the next George Karl? LOL

[ShoogarBear]

What changed in the 4th? The shots didn't go in. I would have definitely liked to see some adjustments at THAT particular time in order to score a few points, but I'm not concerned about our overall approach to the game, and I don't see a need to adjust rotations or minutes.
There're two problems with this analysis:

1. The shots didn't go in for Denver either. In fact, they still shot worse than the Spurs for the game. Yet they won pretty much going away. Why? Clearly more aggressive from the second quarter on and it paid off at the FT line.

2. How many times over the last five years have "the shots didn't go in" been the Spurs' excuse for losing? I can't do the research to prove this, but I would lay some v$ that among the top 5-6 teams in the league since 1999, the Spurs have the most number of stretches missing > 10 shots in a row, especially in the playoffs and in the 4th quarter.

[SequSpur]

Big Dog could've taken all 17 of those shots and made 9 of them and we win by 15. However, he was sitting on the bench watching the posers try to make them.

The Pop Way.