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Findog
12-23-2009, 02:29 PM
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Findog
12-23-2009, 02:30 PM
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21_Blessings
12-23-2009, 02:32 PM
Pistol never lost 18 straight games like T-Quit

Findog
12-23-2009, 02:33 PM
McGrady: 2-time NBA scoring champ, 7-time All Star, First Team All-NBA twice, Second Team All-NBA three times, Third Team All-NBA twice. Famously never made it out of the first round on an active roster.

Culburn369
12-23-2009, 02:33 PM
Both were/are nothing more than super cargo.

Findog
12-23-2009, 02:35 PM
Maravich: led the league in scoring once, All-NBA first team twice, All-NBA second team twice, 5-time NBA All Star. Was a reserve on the 79-80 Celtics that advanced to the Eastern Conference Finals, the only time he played on a team that won a playoff series.

Findog
12-23-2009, 02:35 PM
Both were/are nothing more than super cargo.

Your opinion is duly noted.

Findog
12-23-2009, 02:41 PM
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Findog
12-23-2009, 02:42 PM
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Findog
12-23-2009, 02:43 PM
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Findog
12-23-2009, 02:44 PM
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12-23-2009, 02:45 PM
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Tacker
12-23-2009, 02:45 PM
Pistol never lost 18 straight games like T-Quit

And Pistol never won 22 straight like T-Mac.....

Findog
12-23-2009, 02:46 PM
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anonoftheinternets
12-23-2009, 02:47 PM
umm cmon pistol pete was ridiculous with his showman ship and is a name to remember. I doubt we'l be remember tmac unless something changes.

Culburn369
12-23-2009, 02:47 PM
Your opinion is duly noted.


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Findog
12-23-2009, 02:49 PM
umm cmon pistol pete was ridiculous with his showman ship and is a name to remember. I doubt we'l be remember tmac unless something changes.

They're both tragic figures in some ways. You could argue Maravich was stuck on crummy teams in New Orleans, whereas McGrady's teams blew a 2-game series lead THREE times.

You could also say that Maravich's addition to the Hawks with his contract and Great White Hope Status threw off their chemistry and he couldn't integrate his game into an NBA context.

Culburn369
12-23-2009, 02:51 PM
Maravich was near suicide (his mom had went past the near part) after the Celtics rang in '81. Bird had begged him to come back.

Findog
12-23-2009, 02:52 PM
Maravich was near suicide (his mom had went past the near part) after the Celtics rang in '81.

He had well-documented mental problems, but there's nothing to suggest that he cared one way or the other about what the Celtics did after he retired.

Goran Dragic
12-23-2009, 02:53 PM
You have T-Mac in his prime up against Pistol Pete in his prime, T-Mac dominates.

Tacker
12-23-2009, 02:54 PM
In College Ball it would be no competition.............

Culburn369
12-23-2009, 02:54 PM
He had well-documented mental problems, but there's nothing to suggest that he cared one way or the other about what the Celtics did after he retired.

I read it somewhere.

Findog
12-23-2009, 02:55 PM
I read it somewhere.

Well that's good enough for me. He retired because he hated Bill Fitch and didn't think it was worth sitting on the bench to collect a ring that he didn't earn. He hardly played at all in the ECF against the Sixers in 1980.

Findog
12-23-2009, 02:56 PM
You have T-Mac in his prime up against Pistol Pete in his prime, T-Mac dominates.

Maravich is also an NBA icon, whereas T-Mac is not.

Culburn369
12-23-2009, 02:57 PM
Well that's good enough for me.

Ok.

Culburn369
12-23-2009, 02:58 PM
Maravich is also an NBA icon, whereas T-Mac is not.

That's just because he's a honkey.

Findog
12-23-2009, 02:59 PM
That's just because he's a honkey.

Style has always been of moderate importance, which is why Steve Nash gets slobbered over more than Mark Price or John Stockton ever did.

Findog
12-23-2009, 03:00 PM
How many people became basketball fans because of John Stockton or Tracy McGrady? How many people became basketball fans because of Pete Maravich or Steve Nash?

Culburn369
12-23-2009, 03:03 PM
True.

I was just playin' devil's advadada.

lefty
12-23-2009, 03:03 PM
Maravich of course

NZ Spurs
12-23-2009, 03:35 PM
People are failing to take into consideration the context of their respected careers. Pistol Pete was a trend setter.

Findog
12-23-2009, 03:40 PM
People are failing to take into consideration the context of their respected careers. Pistol Pete was a trend setter.

As well as somebody who was enormously influential with both fans, his peers and the players that have followed him.

exstatic
12-23-2009, 04:14 PM
Maravich was an amazing college player, but just a really good NBA player. As many faults as TMac has, his game is just better. Some stats weren't kept early in Pistol's career, but for the years they kept them, his asst/TO ratio was barely above 1, and his assists were barely above Tony Parker level.

sook
12-23-2009, 04:45 PM
which ever one is white

admiralsnackbar
12-23-2009, 04:49 PM
In the end, I'll always remember Pistol Pete, while I've already forgotten Tmac. On those terms, Maravich is the clear winner -- regardless of stats.

Findog
12-24-2009, 01:25 AM
Maravich was an amazing college player, but just a really good NBA player. As many faults as TMac has, his game is just better. Some stats weren't kept early in Pistol's career, but for the years they kept them, his asst/TO ratio was barely above 1, and his assists were barely above Tony Parker level.

Assuming T-Mac was a better player in his prime, which career would you rather have? Which player do you think got the most out of his talents?

Maravich is an icon who is credited as being a showman that influenced a generation of fans and future players. He was stuck on crummy teams for most of his career, but at his peak some tried to argue he was the best player in the League and not just a guy who could only play 1 on 5. T-Mac is a guy who's had his heart and toughness questioned. Nobody has ever said Maravich is a gutless underachiever, just somebody who couldn't harness his talents very well within the NBA game.

dirk4mvp
12-24-2009, 01:38 AM
I like Pistol a lot, but give me McGrady. IMO he makes scoring look easier than anyone ever and could do it all.

If you wer forced to start a team around one, which would it be? I would go with McGrady.

Too bad T-Mac is one of the biggest wastes of talent ever.



Assuming T-Mac was a better player in his prime, which career would you rather have? Which player do you think got the most out of his talents?

Imo, neither.

JoeTait75
12-24-2009, 01:43 AM
Maravich is the more transcendent figure. Whether that's because he was white or it was a style thing- probably because he was white with style- doesn't really matter. To be brutal about it, had Maravich not existed he would have needed to be invented, which can't be said about McGrady.

Career-wise it's a wash IMO. In McGrady's defense re: the blown playoff leads, his was the inferior team in all three of those series with the arguable exception of Houston-Utah in '07.

BRHornet45
12-24-2009, 01:47 AM
sons I gotta go with whitey on this one. it doesn't take much to beat lazy ass, cross eyed McGrady

Chieflion
12-24-2009, 04:27 AM
Tracy McGrady, I think had the better career. He got those chumps in Orlando to the playoffs.

alamo50
12-24-2009, 05:13 AM
Hahahahahaha, are you out of your freakin' mind starting this thread????

Darthkiller
12-24-2009, 01:42 PM
maravich went to a bad team and made it better. tmac went to a good team and made it worse.

jag
12-24-2009, 03:33 PM
Maravich plays like the old guy at the Y who shits on everyone. Tracy plays like the black guy that plays college ball somewhere and shows up at the Y to get a couple games in. Either way you're getting shit on...it's just a complete contrast in styles.