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CosmicCowboy
12-30-2009, 04:20 PM
And before this is over Craig James may be sorry he filed the complaint...his kid Adam may as well transfer because he is coming out of this looking like the biggest pussy of all time...

http://dennis-dodd.blogs.cbssports.c...70202/19238949

These e-mails were forwarded to CBSSports.com on Tuesday. They include messages from strength coach Bennie Wylie, inside receivers coach Lincoln Riley, former assistant coach Dana Holgorsen (now at Houston) and former players Eric Morris, Graham Harrell and Rylan Reed ...


Two days prior to the incident in question, I disciplined Adam James along with several other recievers. His attitude was poor the entire time; even with constant plees for improvement. By the end of the practice, a few of the other recievers accepted their lack of performance in the previous practice and worked harder. Adam was not one of these individuals. He was last on all the excercises asked to do and talked and "danced" during the discipline. When told that this was unacceptable, he simply shrugged his shoulders. I continued to encourge him with no success.

Bennie Wylie
Head Strength and Conditioning Coach
Texas Tech University


To whom it may concern:

You can find out a lot about a person after playing three years of college football with them. Adam James was a teammate of mine from 2006-2009. Ever since the day he arrived on the Texas Tech campus you couldn’t help but to feel a negative energy from him. He expected people to baby him and that he was going make it solely on the fact that his father was a very successful player. Coach Leach has never been a coach to just give something to someone because of who they are. He believes that everyone is equal and you have to earn respect from your coaches and teammates. Adam was never known as a hard worker. I can honestly agree with this because we played the same position and I witnessed his laziness on a daily bases. Adam seemed to have a negative attitude towards the football program the majority of the time. That negative energy is never good for a team and can cause some major problems on and off the field. During practices, Adam always tried to get by with doing the least he possibly could. Never do I once remember Adam to be excited or enthusiastic to be out there. It was almost like he was playing the game of football to please someone other than himself.

Sincerely,

Eric Morris


To Whom It May Concern:

Texas Tech University and the athletic department is filled with great people from the top down, starting with the chancellor all the way down to the student athletes involved in the programs. In the football program, Gerald Myers and the rest of the administration have put together an unbelievable staff that believe success only comes from hard work and doing things right. The staff expects the players and everyone involved to buy into their beliefs, but like anywhere not every player agrees with or buys into what the coaches and program stand for. At Texas Tech the majority of the players do everything the coaches ask of them and anything possible to improve the team. Adam James is one of the few players who has never bought into what Texas Tech football was built on and in my years there with him had a negative impact on the team because of his attitude and work ethic on and off the field. Coach Leach demands a lot out of every player in the program and pushed his players and coaches as hard as any coach I have ever been around, but he is fair to every player and would never make and decision or action that is not best for the Texas Tech football program.

Before Adam James ever entered the football locker room at Texas Tech I heard how spoiled and selfish he acted in a team atmosphere from many of my baseball friends. Adam was on the baseball team his true freshman year at Tech, before he ever joined the football team, and did not make it through the baseball season because of his selfish attitude. After a baseball game in which he felt like he did not get enough playing time, but the team still won twenty to one, he came into the locker room after the game and “pouted and threw a big fit” according another player on the baseball team. A few weeks later in the middle of the season, he just stopped showing up to practices or game and quit because he was not happy about how he was being treated. One of my roommates was a baseball player on the team and many of my friends were a part of the team that witnessed all of this. These baseball players told me he was “spoiled and selfish” before he ever came to the football team. After quitting baseball he came out for football and his selfish attitude was very evident, as was his laziness. During off-season workouts he often would be caught skipping lifts in the weight room or finding ways to cut corners/get out of conditioning exercises. When we had player organized seven on seven throwing in the summer, when he would show up he was much more interested in playing his own games on the side of the field or telling people that he wasn’t going to run any routes because the coaches do not get him a “fair opportunity” anyway. During the season he was often “injured” (it usually seemed like a very minor injury that could keep him out of practice but never out of any other activity, including games) so he would not participate in some drills in practice. None of these acts were productive for our team, but the most detrimental part of Adam was his off field attitude and actions. In the locker room and away from the facility, Adam used any opportunity he had to tell other players how he was being treated unfairly, how the coaches did not give him a fair chance and how we did not have to do everything the coaches told us because they had no option but to play some of us. When I heard these kinds of things I usually tried to put an end to them but Adam pretty consistently talked bad about the coaches or down played the importance of working hard, when he was off the field. When he talked to young players or players that were usually on the scout he would explain how the coaches were not fair to certain players and only played favorites. When he talked to players that did get some playing time he would talk about how we didn’t really have to do what the coaches asked of us because the coaches had to play us anyway. And it almost always tied back to how he was not getting a fair chance to play just because the coaches were unfair. The coaches were always more than fair to Adam I felt, because he came in the game during certain formations and situations last football season, but because of his work ethic and attitude, many of the players on last years team had a hard time trusting him or relying on him because he was not always practicing and we had seen his laziness during the off-season. Adam was a kid that seemed like he had been given everything he wanted his whole life and acted like if things did not go exactly how he wanted someone was treating him unfairly or someone needed to be blamed for his failures. He was a selfish player on and off the field that was counter-productive for our team and would be for any other team.

Mike Leach was not only my head coach, but he was my position coach all five of my years at Texas Tech. I spent more time with him than any other player during my five years and had meetings with him every day. He was very hard on me and every other player in program and he held very high expectations for every player. He would push us all every day during the season and during the off-season. He felt that hard work, dedication and doing things right was the only way we could be successful and compete in the Big XII conference. He worked harder and longer than anyone else in program and was committed to winning at all cost. He would never have been unfair to a player or not played the best players he had because he wanted to win more than anything else. Coach Leach also expected us to be tough but smart at the same time. He would not pressure a kid to play with a serious injury or play when he did not feel ready to play. Coach Leach is a man that cares about his player and puts his players, coaches and the well being of the Texas Tech football program above all else.

Coach Leach is a great coach at Texas Tech that emphasizes the importance of hard work and doing things the right way so that the football program has the best opportunity possible to be successful. He, along with the administration and the rest of his staff, have built a great football program at Texas Tech that is built on the virtues and principles that give any program an opportunity to be successful. Every single player may not buy into the program’s beliefs, but Mike Leach has almost everyone on board with him and the Texas Tech football program on a successful track.

Graham Harrell


To whom it may concern:

As a player under coach Leach, I have experienced some of the most memorable moments of my life in which I am very grateful for. As I stated I am a former Red Raider that played for Mike Leach and got to know him well over my four years as a Red Raider. I admire the professionalism and dedication Mike had for the game, the university and his players. He always demanded the best from each of us and we became better players and people for it. Although he pushed his players and coaches to be the best, his decisions and actions were always consistent with maintaining the program’s integrity and were in the best interest of his players. As a player, my commitment to the team was based on the trust I had developed in Coach Leach as a leader who would always put his players and his team in the best possible position for success. As a result of his guidance and coaching, in combination with my own hard work, I was able to overcome great adversity to become an All-American tackle.

A couple of bowl games ago in the Gator Bowl, I suffered a severe injury to my lower left leg in which took a lot of support from family, friends, fans, coach’s, teammates and most importantly coach Leach to get me back. It was a long road to recovery that took careful attention from trainers during practices, and Leach was always checking to make sure that I was ok. During camp, oftentimes I had to practice one day and then take a day off because of soreness. Coach Leach was very understanding, always had my best interest in mind at all times, and I will always be appreciative of that.

Another incident that occurred was after my pro day in which I hurt my knee and my dream of playing in the NFL quickly came to a halt so I went home to rehab with two semesters left from graduating. I was able to get a job and start working, but quickly realized that to get the dream job in the real world that I always wanted, it would take getting my degree from Texas Tech. When I got home from work one day, I got a phone call from coach Leach asking, if they were able to get some paper work filled out, would I be willing to come back to school to finish my degree, and of course I said yes. I am proud to say that, as a result of coach Leach’s influence, I will finish my degree from Texas Tech in May 2010. If that does not show how coach Leach cares for his players, then I do not know what does.
The allegations against coach Leach are not consistent with the standards and beliefs that he has for himself and the University of Texas Tech. He has always been fair and respectful to my teammates and I. I was very saddened to hear that someone could try to take away all that he has done for this university, players and fans. I hope that you take this into consideration, and I also would be willing to further discuss anything in detail in person or by phone.

Sincerely,

Rylan Reed



To Who it May Concern:

During the last two years of being the inside receivers coach, I have
had the chance to learn alot about Adam James. He came to Tech
because of one person: Coach Leach. Although we adamently doubted
his talent, we as coaches came to see that Adam actually had enough
talent to help us out. The problem, though, is that Adam is
unusually lazy and entitled. Many other players on this team,
specifically receivers, have a much larger role on this team with less
talent. I have always been worried about Adam's effect on my other
players because of his weak and conceited attitude. I recently found
out that Adam deliberately undermined my authority on many occasions.
This is particularly disturbing because Coach Leach hired me to make
our receivers the best group in the country, and Adam has damaged this
group far more than I even realized. He should be grateful forthe
opportunity that was given to him here that was not offered at any
other Division 1 football program. He has an unvelievable sense of
entitlement because of who his father is; one that hurts himself and
people around him. Adam is the kind of person thatakes excuses or
blames people for things that go wrong in his life.
Furthermore, I don't have children yet, but when I do I hope they are
coached by someone like Coach Leach. I have learned so many great
things from him and am incredibly lucky to have him in my life.

Lincoln Riley


I am writing this letter on behalf of Mike Leach in regards to the Adam James situation. I was the inside receiver coach at Texas Tech when we made the decision the sign Adam James in January of 2007. Adam had no offers to play NCAA D1 football during and after his Senior year. After a conversation between Coach Leach and Adams father Craig, Coach Leach acquired a brief highlight tape of Adam and made the decision to take him as a scholarship student athlete. I was opposed to doing so in belief he was not a D1 football player. Coach Leach overrode my opinion and Adam became a Red Raider. During the rest of my time at Texas Tech I was Adams position coach where I always remained critical of Adams ability to play at this level due to being lazy in not only the classroom but also in the off season and during practice. Coach Leach was the one who kept saying he believed Adam would eventually contribute. Adams teammates believed he was selfish and were constantly getting onto him for lack of effort as they sensed entitlement on his part due to his father being a very good football player. Adam eventually ended up playing a little after I left due to his body type being able to do some TE sets which consists of around 5-10 plays a game. Adam should be thankful for the opportunity to play at Texas Tech and for Mike Leach, who gave him the opportunity. In my opinion playing 5-10 plays a game in an outstanding offense is more than he would get at any other school in NCAA D1 football.

Dana Holgorsen
OC & QB's
University of Houston


Two practices before Adam James claimed he had a concussion, Coach Leach and I were forced to discipline him for poor effort from the previous practice and poor effort during the early drills of that day. This has been a common theme about Adam's work ethic and attitude during his entire career. Adam, along with two other receivers that were also unsatisfactory, was sent to run stadium steps with Bennie Wylie. After the practice, Bennie made it very clear to Coach Leach and I that Adam was a complete "jerk" while he was being punished. After talking with Adam after the practice, it was very clear to me that Adam did not agree with the punishment and believed that we were just mis-asessing his effort. He complained to me that we were not doing our jobs as coaches and that his effort was just fine, all of which is very typical of him to say. By comparison, the other receiver that we punished agreed that his effort wasn't his best and had a good attitude with Bennie and also in meeting with me after practice. It's just another example of Adam thinking that he knows more about coaching than people who have been coaching for their entire lives. I have no doubt that anger from this led to where we are today with this situation and is his way of trying to "get back" at us coaches

Lincoln Riley

JoeChalupa
12-30-2009, 04:28 PM
Damn, is this guy like Bobby Knight or what?

BacktoBasics
12-30-2009, 04:28 PM
Tech lost a good Coach. Damn shame.

JoeChalupa
12-30-2009, 04:31 PM
Tech lost a good Coach. Damn shame.

If Coach Leach wouldn't have lost it he'd still have a job, no?

But yeah, it sucks.

BacktoBasics
12-30-2009, 04:34 PM
If Coach Leach wouldn't have lost it he'd still have a job, no?

But yeah, it sucks.Its all speculation. I'm relatively certain it didn't go down exactly the way that kid described it.

Looks like he was fired for pushing the issue about coaching the bowl game.

CosmicCowboy
12-30-2009, 04:52 PM
I think this was just an excuse. He's a pretty strong willed guy. Scoop is that the administration asked him to write an apology letter to Adam and Craig James and Leach said he hadn't done anything wrong and he wasn't gonna apologize. Plus the way his contract was structured if he was employed on December 31st he got a $800,000 bonus...so they fired him on the 29th.

Either way it was a monumental fuck up. He took that program from a perennial cellar dweller to a top Division 1 team that was one win away from the National championship game last year...

leemajors
12-30-2009, 05:05 PM
I think this was just an excuse. He's a pretty strong willed guy. Scoop is that the administration asked him to write an apology letter to Adam and Craig James and Leach said he hadn't done anything wrong and he wasn't gonna apologize. Plus the way his contract was structured if he was employed on December 31st he got a $800,000 bonus...so they fired him on the 29th.

Either way it was a monumental fuck up. He took that program from a perennial cellar dweller to a top Division 1 team that was one win away from the National championship game last year...

Not true, according to his lawyer:

http://www.sportingnews.com/blog/the_sporting_blog/entry/view/49676/video-surfaces-of-alleged-sheds-and-closets-at-texas-tech

BacktoBasics
12-30-2009, 05:11 PM
Not true, according to his lawyer:

http://www.sportingnews.com/blog/the_sporting_blog/entry/view/49676/video-surfaces-of-alleged-sheds-and-closets-at-texas-techThat video is going to go a long way in showing that Leach did nothing wrong. Neither of those rooms were anything near how they described them.

Kermit
12-30-2009, 05:38 PM
Apparently the entire team (players) is in agreement with the decision. There has to be a smoking gun. This James situation is probably the final straw.

CosmicCowboy
12-30-2009, 05:40 PM
Apparently the entire team (players) is in agreement with the decision.

That's not even CLOSE to what I'm hearing.

Kermit
12-30-2009, 05:43 PM
That's not even CLOSE to what I'm hearing.

Show me one current player who has come out in support of Leach.

leemajors
12-30-2009, 05:43 PM
Apparently the entire team (players) is in agreement with the decision. There has to be a smoking gun. This James situation is probably the final straw.

You got a link? I've been fascinated with this story and haven't seen anything like that.

Kermit
12-30-2009, 05:47 PM
From Daniel Charbonnet's Facebook page. Allegedly.



Quote:
My conversation with Charbonnet...
Ongoing right now on Facebook. Details to follow.


Quote:
Me: It's hard for me to believe you would support one slack *** player over a coach that can support you over your entire life. You show your immaturity...

Charbonnet: thanks for youre message and insight into this situation. im sure you know all the information about what has happened since you have access to the internet and cable so you can make fair judgements and opinions. im sure you know what type of person leach was, bc you probably knew him extremely well, so you know that this was a first time type of thing, i really do appreciate your support and us as players love to football for people like you. you also probably know bc youre prob friends with them all on facebook how the players feel about all of this, and since the players really know whats going on, you prob side with all of them.. oh wait..


Quote:
Me: Yeah, I do know what Holgerson said, I know what Lincoln Riley said, I know what Harrell said and I know what Eric Morris about your buddy Adam James. He is a slack *** player who is lazy. Do you disagree? You'd be the first person to disagree with that. If you can't a little discipline from a football coach... PLAY INTRAMRUALS BROTHER! It's Division 1 football and it's the Big XII! This isn't pee wee football. If your not man enough to do it, others are.


Quote:

Charbonnet: crazy, ive never heard of disciplining a player for being diagnosed with a concussion by the head trainer and the team dr.. you really, really dont know what happened, the type of guy or coach leach was, or anything else into the matter.. everyone on the team, and i mean everyone, supports this.. find a new team to cheer for or wait till we all graduate


Quote:
THAT, Mr Taylor Charbonnet, will be NO PROBLEM. Maybe a team with some CHARACTER, unlike the one that showed their Red Raider azzes in the Cotton Bowl last year. Spit-tuey....I'm through with the whole damn bunch of you

BacktoBasics
12-30-2009, 05:51 PM
Show me one current player who has come out in support of Leach.A player with any intelligence would keep his mouth shut. No reason risking your spot on the team for someone else's problems.

I'm not getting the impression that many people are behind the Leach firing.

EricB
12-30-2009, 05:56 PM
:lol

Yeah a player is gonna come out against the school and risk his scholarship.

Kermit
12-30-2009, 05:59 PM
Eh, I don't think the school would reprimand a player who comes out in support of Leach, but who knows. Right now, current players seem to be supporting the trust fund baby 100%. We'll see what happens after the bowl game. This thing is going to be a shit storm.

Kermit
12-30-2009, 06:00 PM
:lol

Yeah a player is gonna come out against the school and risk his scholarship.

Yes, because a school will risk major litigation, when it's already going through a lawsuit with it's former coach, just to spite a player. Pull your head out of your extremely fat ass.

BacktoBasics
12-30-2009, 06:01 PM
Eh, I don't think the school would reprimand a player who comes out in support of Leach, but who knows. Right now, current players seem to be supporting the trust fund baby 100%. We'll see what happens after the bowl game. This thing is going to be a shit storm.You cited one player's opinion. I don't see proof of player(s) supporting anything.

He didn't discipline the kid for having a concussion. Its not like the kid was doing laps or writing lines. He sat him down.

BacktoBasics
12-30-2009, 06:02 PM
Yes, because a school will risk major litigation, when it's already going through a lawsuit with it's former coach, just to spite a player. Pull your head out of your extremely fat ass.
They already showed that they're willing to risk major litigation why stop there.

thispego
12-30-2009, 06:03 PM
rofl!! FACEBOOK, OMG

BacktoBasics
12-30-2009, 06:04 PM
rofl!! FACEBOOK, OMGObviously he should have quoted something more credible like Twitter.

Kermit
12-30-2009, 06:05 PM
You cited one player's opinion. I don't see proof of player(s) supporting anything.

He didn't discipline the kid for having a concussion. Its not like the kid was doing laps or writing lines. He sat him down.

I think it's the alleged lack of sitting that got him fired.

There were two more players offering support for James on ESPN, which I realized is hardly a credible source right now.

mookie_crew
12-30-2009, 06:05 PM
rofl!! FACEBOOK, OMG

CROFL CROFL

We just don't dew tings like that I said.

Kermit
12-30-2009, 06:06 PM
They already showed that they're willing to risk major litigation why stop there.

I don't know. I guess we'll find out.

Kermit
12-30-2009, 06:07 PM
CROFL CROFL

We just don't dew tings like that I said.

All the big Tech news happens on Facebook.

BacktoBasics
12-30-2009, 06:08 PM
I think it's the alleged lack of sitting that got him fired.

There were two more players offering support for James on ESPN, which I realized is hardly a credible source right now.This is what I don't understand. The coach can instruct this player go wherever the coach wants him to go when he's on the teams clock. After seeing that video I'm more than convinced that he gave him ample space and attention while he was "at practice". Boo hoo coach sat me down in a nice comfy room. If he didn't like it he should have walked away from the team. He certainly didn't lock him down in a coat closet like he was accused of.

Kermit
12-30-2009, 06:09 PM
This is what I don't understand. The coach can instruct this player go wherever the coach wants him to go when he's on the teams clock. After seeing that video I'm more than convinced that he gave him ample space and attention while he was "at practice". Boo hoo coach sat me down in a nice comfy room. If he didn't like it he should have walked away from the team. He certainly didn't lock him down in a coat closet like he was accused of.

Electrical closet. Ended up being the media room.

CosmicCowboy
12-30-2009, 06:16 PM
Besides, the coach is not your friend. He's your coach. Division 1 football is a tough game. Even if the players DIDN'T like him that doesn't make him a bad coach. Heck, rumors are that Stoops is a major dick and his players hate him but he has a national championship and multiple big XII championships...

ploto
12-30-2009, 08:15 PM
Definitely drawing attention to the AlamoBowl.

DisgruntledLionFan#54,927
12-30-2009, 08:47 PM
This is pretty funny.

Kid isn't harmed in any way and they can their coach.

No, anything but standing in a dark room! Did the rich putz even try to get out?

That shed looks like a small pole barn, BTW.

Twisted_Dawg
12-30-2009, 10:05 PM
Here is a link to the two rooms:

http://www.kcbd.com/global/Category.asp?C=151146&clipId=&topVideoCatNo=108431&topVideoCatNoB=108535&topVideoCatNoC=111448&topVideoCatNoD=108536&topVideoCatNoE=111449&clipId=4421239&flvUri=&partnerclipid=&topVideoCatNo=108431&autoStart=true&activePane=info&LaunchPageAdTag=homepage&clipFormat=flv

The two "rooms" in question were a large garage buiding next to the practice bubble where the gators and pratice equipment are stored. There is an ice machine in there. The other room is in the stadium and is used for interviews with the opposing coach.
Not quite the torture chambers the press made it out to be.

A friend of mine with Tech said Craig James used to call Leach all the time with coaching suggestions and campaigning for more play time for his son. Adam was a red shirt freshman and caught only 30 balls in two years of play.

I am sure Leach had his fill of this kid and his asshole father, and was fucking with the kid by sending him to those rooms. But I can remeber coaches being mad at me or the team and making us run wind sprints for a week. I would rather fo sit in a room than run wind sprints for a week. It is not like Leach was making the kid do push ups in those rooms.

This ended up bad for everybody. Leach probably could have saved his job, but pride got the best of him. Tech will rerutn to its losing ways. And Craig James will get a release dor his pussy of a son to go play at SMU. June Jones would be crazy to take this worthless cocksucker.

MannyIsGod
12-30-2009, 11:26 PM
Wow what a PUSSY.

exstatic
12-31-2009, 09:48 AM
I think this is probably one of those rare cases where the perception of everyone is probably right. The kid is probably a whiner. Craig James is probably a major 'Little League Dad'. Leach is probably an arrogant prick.

What's getting lost in the shuffle is not the particulars of what happened, but WHY the kid was being locked up. He claimed he had a concussion, and obviously Leach, who is NOT a doctor, didn't believe him and thought he was dogging it. One of the things that the University said had to happen was that an outside doctor or doctors have to sign off on playing or practicing injured players. Leach refused. Bad move. He isn't a fucking doctor, and with all of the concussion awareness being practiced all over football, he comes off looking not just like a hard ass, but like a fucking Ogre.

I'm not sure why anyone was totally shocked that he was fired. Ohio State fired Woody Hayes, the greatest coach in their history and the one who led them to their first National Championship. He punched that kid from Clemson during the game, and didn't think he had to apologize for it. These guys get SUCH huge heads. There's still plenty of talent at TT, and I'm sure they can find someone else to come in and run the Stoops Dink and Dunk Offense and completely ignore the other side of the ball. :lol

exstatic
12-31-2009, 09:49 AM
double post

CosmicCowboy
12-31-2009, 10:05 AM
Here's a good article on background...

By Tim Griffin
Mike Leach’s firing wasn’t a surprise on Wednesday.

His attorney had predicted to several reporters earlier this week that his client would be let go by Texas Tech officials -- probably sooner rather than later.

Mike Leach led Texas Tech to 10 straight bowl appearances.
But it was still a cataclysmic shock in Lubbock and West Texas when Leach was let go earlier this morning. For a period after his firing was announced, the Lubbock Avalanche-Journal's Web site crashed due to interest in the story.

That firing speaks to a larger controversy than what happened over Adam James' concussion and “The Shed.”

Leach and Tech athletic director Gerald Myers always had a contentious relationship from the very beginning of his tenure there. It’s understandable when you consider the turf wars that sometimes develop in athletic departments when a headstrong former basketball coach is the athletic director and makes decisions over a similarly headstrong football coach.

It all started in 2002, when rumors about Leach’s off-field activities led to an investigation by the athletic department.

Leach was cleared, but the schism between him and his boss started at that time. At one point, Myers stopped Leach’s outgoing mail in a dispute about postage stamps.

It simmered early in Leach’s time when the Red Raiders played the toughest nonconference schedule in the Big 12 as a way to make money for the athletic department. During the 2002 season, for example, Tech played Ohio State, Mississippi and NC State in addition to the Big 12 South gauntlet.

That chapped Leach and he let Myers know about his concerns. The two always seemed to be better off if they were an arms-length away from the other.

Tech officials weren’t happy when news surfaced of Leach shopping himself for a number of major coaching openings over the past several years.

And it continued when he went through an extremely contentious negotiation with school officials before he was given a three-year extension on what was a five-year, $12.7 million contract. To get the deal done, Leach went over Myers’ head and personally negotiated with Tech chancellor Kent Hance.

Under terms of the contract, Leach was due an $800,000 bonus if he was still the Red Raiders’ coach on Thursday.

Now, it appears he won’t receive that bonus, although I’m sure the contract is headed for litigation between Leach and the school.

Even with the firing, Leach will be considered one of Tech’s top football coaches ever, leaving the school with a program he helped boost into contention in the extremely difficult Big 12 South Division. It’s not a stretch to say that he was one of the seminal figures in Big 12 history, helping transform the way offense was played from the ground-based philosophies of the old Southwest and Big Eight conferences into today’s high-powered aerial attacks that have become the national rage recently.

Leach built a program out of castoffs like Wes Welker, Michael Crabtree, Graham Harrell and Brandon Williams and turned them into a team that could consistently compete with teams like Texas and Oklahoma. The Red Raiders were ranked No. 2 in the nation for a three-week period during last year's 11-2 season, which was a national breakthrough for the school.

Leach was Texas Tech football. He was as much a part of Lubbock as dust storms, Buddy Holly’s statue and the blueberry muffins at the legendary Fifty-Yard Line Restaurant.

And no matter who follows Leach, he will face a mammoth chore of replacing a legend who directed the Red Raiders to 10 consecutive bowl appearances and more bowl victories in his tenure than the rest of the school’s 85-season football history combined.

The football program upstaged Myers’ basketball program and his hand-picked coach of choice, Bob Knight. Even with the legendary career leader in victories along the sidelines, the Red Raiders’ basketball team had trouble filling the United Spirit Arena or selling the personal-seat licenses that were intended to help build the facility.

But that wasn’t the case for the football program, which became a national phenomenon under their quirky coach. Tech’s success led to him being a cover story in the New York Times magazine and the subject of a fawning piece on CBS-TV’s "60 Minutes" late last season.

Leach gained notoriety for his fascination with pirates, mobsters and Indian chiefs. His stint as a weatherman on a Lubbock television station -- memorable because of his explanation of the local occurrence of “raining mud” -- became a YouTube staple with hundreds of thousands of hits.

He could coach a little, too. During what was expected to be a rebuilding job this season, Leach juggled three starting quarterbacks en route to an 8-4 mark and a berth in Saturday night’s Valero Alamo Bowl.

He’ll be gone from the sidelines in that game. The Red Raiders likely have the perfect solution to settle the upheaval with unassuming defensive coordinator Ruffin McNeill. He’s familiar with the players because of his recruiting and will give them the best opportunity to keep their program together against Michigan State on Saturday night.

But after that, it will be a different story.

Myers needs to mobilize quickly to salvage what had been the best recruiting season for Tech in recent years. Whether those recruits will be willing to stay firm on their commitments to the far-flung West Texas locale that is still one of the toughest recruiting destinations in the Big 12 will be interesting to see.

Leach carved an identity that made Tech one of the top 25 or 30 programs in the country over the past 10 years.

Now, we’ll see if his replacement can keep it there

exstatic
12-31-2009, 10:13 AM
It’s not a stretch to say that he was one of the seminal figures in Big 12 history, helping transform the way offense was played from the ground-based philosophies of the old Southwest and Big Eight conferences into today’s high-powered aerial attacks that have become the national rage recently.
:lol Uh, didn't he just lift Stoops' OU offense? That doesn't seem very "seminal" to me.

CosmicCowboy
12-31-2009, 10:50 AM
:lol Uh, didn't he just lift Stoops' OU offense? That doesn't seem very "seminal" to me.

wrong.

If anything, Stoops lifted Leaches offense. Stoops and Hal Mumme actually created the offense and perfected it at Kentucky and then Leach went to OU as offensive coordinator before going to Tech as head coach.

Heres a quote:


Prior to coming on board at Texas Tech, Leach, in just one season at Oklahoma, directed a Sooner offense that went from one of the worst in the Big 12 Conference to one of the best. Under Leach's tutelage, Josh Heupel was named 1999 Big 12 Offensive Newcomer of the Year. For his efforts, Leach was nominated for the 1999 Broyles Award as the top assistant coach in the country.

Leach guided an Oklahoma offense that went from 11th in the Big 12 in 1998 to first in 1999 and 101st in the nation to 11th. In just one year, OU's total offense numbers improved from 293.3 to 427.2 yards per game.

The rise in passing and scoring offense categories is just as impressive. Oklahoma went from last to first in the Big 12 in passing offense in one year, from 107th in the country to ninth. Under Leach, the Sooners improved from 109.9 yards passing per game to 321.7 yards per game.

In 1998, Oklahoma was last in the Big 12 and 101st in the country in scoring offense at 16.7 points per game. In 1999, the Sooners improved to second in the league and eighth in the country in scoring at 36.8 points per game, an increase of just over 20 points per game.

Under Leach, the Oklahoma offense set six Big 12 Conference and 17 OU records. The Sooners were one of only two schools in the nation to have six players with 20 or more receptions in 1999.

EmptyMan
12-31-2009, 11:56 AM
Whatever happened to the days where you went into a military/le/sport program expecting to be tortured, hazed, broken, etc.

I thought all men and even boys past the age of 15 pretty much assumed the man in charge would be the biggest dick you would ever meet and there would be nothing you could do about it other than survive. Did middle school/high school coaches not desensitize this gentleman?

Answer: daddy was big espn name. :lol

CavsSuperFan
12-31-2009, 12:21 PM
I question how young athletes who can bench press 400 lbs, can be traumatized or allow themselves to be traumatized, by an old, out of shape, coach or senior citizen coaching staff…

Winehole23
12-31-2009, 01:19 PM
Apparently the entire team (players) is in agreement with the decision. There has to be a smoking gun. This James situation is probably the final straw.I found this plausible:

http://www.sportingnews.com/college-football/article/2009-12-30/james-gang-helps-texas-tech-get-revenge-on-leach?obref=obnetwork

Winehole23
12-31-2009, 01:52 PM
It's a damn shame. Tech just fired the best coach they ever had. Guess Kent Hance and the AD didn't like being overshadowed by Leach and the football program. Too bad for the kids, too bad for Lubbock and too bad for Texas Tech. The way the University handled this does them no credit IMO. It looks more opportunistic than just IMO.

CosmicCowboy
12-31-2009, 02:02 PM
Gerald Myers, the over the hill ex-basketball coach/athletic director turned out looking like a petulant, jealous idiot. He hired Bob Knight to make the basketball program the "gem" of the schools athletic programs and Leach and football overshadowed it...

Twisted_Dawg
12-31-2009, 04:46 PM
I think this is probably one of those rare cases where the perception of everyone is probably right. The kid is probably a whiner. Craig James is probably a major 'Little League Dad'. Leach is probably an arrogant prick.

Bingo. You hit it right on the head. Now add in a really egotistic AD in Gerald Myers and you have the perfect storm.

Twisted_Dawg
12-31-2009, 04:54 PM
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What's getting lost in the shuffle is not the particulars of what happened, but WHY the kid was being locked up. He claimed he had a concussion, and obviously Leach, who is NOT a doctor, didn't believe him and thought he was dogging it. One of the things that the University said had to happen was that an outside doctor or doctors have to sign off on playing or practicing injured players. Leach refused. Bad move. He isn't a fucking doctor, and with all of the concussion awareness being practiced all over football, he comes off looking not just like a hard ass, but like a fucking Ogre.

I heard from my Lubbock and Tech friends that after his concussion, Adam James shows up at practice bubble wearing sunglasses a la Joe Cool. Leach asked him why he was wearing sunglasses and James said the bright lights in the bubble hurt his eyes since he had a concussion. This pissed off Leach and he told the trainer to take James out to the garage next to the bubble where the gators and practice equipment are stored. (I can only guess at this point Leach had his fill of this little prick and his father over the last three years. And I can guess that Leach has had many player sit out practices with concusssions and NOT wearing songlasses.)

Twisted_Dawg
12-31-2009, 05:02 PM
I saw on either FOX news this morning or ESPN a cell phone video from Adam's phone that Adam took while confined to the media room. And the lights were off (not sure who turned them off) while he was filming. I am wondering if he called his cocksucker dad to tell him about his incarceration and the dad told him to film, or if Adam did it all on his own. It does tell me at this point, the James gang were building their case aganst Leach.

DisgruntledLionFan#54,927
12-31-2009, 05:15 PM
Saw that video on youtube.

I'm not an expert or anything, but aren't door locks usually on the inside? And I saw a chair, so unless they covered it on razor blades and fire ants, we can agree that the "forced him to stand" allegation is complete bullshit. EDIT: Even if there was no chairs, the whiny douche can't sit on the floor?

Honestly, from everything I've read, James is just the pawn. A douchebag pawn, but a pawn nonetheless.

Kermit
12-31-2009, 05:34 PM
Saw that video on youtube.

I'm not an expert or anything, but aren't door locks usually on the inside? And I saw a chair, so unless they covered it on razor blades and fire ants, we can agree that the "forced him to stand" allegation is complete bullshit. EDIT: Even if there was no chairs, the whiny douche can't sit on the floor?

Honestly, from everything I've read, James is just the pawn. A douchebag pawn, but a pawn nonetheless.

Again, the James shit is just a prequel. Tech swears it has more to hang Leach with. Let's see what they've got and how the players react after the bowl game. This soap opera just got started.

CosmicCowboy
12-31-2009, 06:23 PM
Tech is really gonna regret this. Leach will get damn near his full contract amount now, Their football program will go into the toilet, and their stupid over the hill athletic director will still be running the show. :lmao

What decent coach would EVER want to coach there?

They will end up promoting the interim coach (the current defensive coach) to head coach because he can be manipulated. I'm sure he will be a great coach...Tech has ALWAYS been known for their great DEFENSE :lmao

Twisted_Dawg
12-31-2009, 07:24 PM
Tech is really gonna regret this.

Let's define "Tech".

If you mean the loyal Tech alumni that watched their football team play exciting football for 10 years after suffering thorugh years of mediocre football....Yeah, they are going to regret it.

If you mean the current young athletic players that came to Tech to play for Mike Leach, now will have to play for a new coach and his system....Yeah, they are going to regret it.

If you mean the University's financial coffers that made a lot of money under Mike Leach.....yeah they will regret it.

If you mean Mike Leach for being so stupid, stubborn and prideful to get himself fired....Yeah I think he will regret it. Start looking at D2 schools Mike.

Finally, if you mean Adam James for being a little arrogant, lazy, entitled prick...yeah he is going to regret it big time. His career at Tech and any other D1 school is over. If you mean Craig James for being such a arrogant Pop Warner dad...yeah he is going to regret his actions for a long time.

Twisted_Dawg
12-31-2009, 07:30 PM
What decent coach would EVER want to coach there?

They will end up promoting the interim coach (the current defensive coach) to head coach because he can be manipulated. I'm sure he will be a great coach...Tech has ALWAYS been known for their great DEFENSE :lmao

Exactly......Lubbock is not exactly a vacation destination. Good luck trying to lure top rated players to Lubbock. Plus what good coach would want to work for asshole AD Gerald Meyers?

Tech is in a difficult spot here. If they don't promote Defensive Coordinator Ruffian McNeil, they will be accused of racism. If they do promote him, good luck to him and Tech as I do not think he has what it takes to keep Tech at a high level.

CosmicCowboy
12-31-2009, 08:34 PM
i think he winds up at a better program than tech

X2

Heck, Imagine Leach at A&M with that foaming at the mouth alumni with open checkbooks. Thats actually a scary thought. As sucky as College Station is it's no harder to recruit for there than Lubbock. At least Houston is an hour away. The only thing an hour away from Lubbock is more cotton fields.

Das Texan
12-31-2009, 09:18 PM
leach in college station would make that program relevant again somewhat quickly.

Kermit
12-31-2009, 11:04 PM
leach in college station would make that program relevant again somewhat quickly.

Leach couldn't deal with the redneck alumni in Lubbock. So by reason, he'll be able to deal with bigger necks with more money in College Station who he has made fun of through his tenure at Tech. Makes sense.

MsMcGillyCutty
01-01-2010, 12:19 AM
I wouldn't want any of you to be the father of my son if you'd take the coaches side before your own damn son. You all must have jock-itch of the brain.

ClingingMars
01-01-2010, 04:16 AM
I found this plausible:

http://www.sportingnews.com/college-football/article/2009-12-30/james-gang-helps-texas-tech-get-revenge-on-leach?obref=obnetwork

I've been sayin' this ALL ALONG...once you're in ESPN's headlights...you ain't going anywhere but down

ClingingMars
01-01-2010, 04:28 AM
I wouldn't want any of you to be the father of my son if you'd take the coaches side before your own damn son. You all must have jock-itch of the brain.

The father is just as guilty as the son is here...do some reading.

Kermit
01-01-2010, 09:08 AM
Leach: 8746436287
Tech: 0

Pay me my money!!!

Twisted_Dawg
01-01-2010, 11:02 AM
I wouldn't want any of you to be the father of my son if you'd take the coaches side before your own damn son. You all must have jock-itch of the brain.

Point taken. I would hope that you would not raise a spoiled, arrogant, lazy pussy of a son with a bad attitude who thinks he is entitled because of what his father did.