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CubanMustGo
01-03-2010, 04:56 PM
Will it be enough to keep the NCAA from imposing more?

http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/ncb/news/story?id=4792634

USC has imposed sanctions on its men's basketball program for NCAA rules violations, including a ban on postseason competition at the end of this season, a reduction of scholarships and vacating all of its wins from 2007-08.

The university said the self-imposed sanctions resulted from an internal investigation that found NCAA rules violations related to O.J. Mayo, who played for the Trojans during the 2007-2008 season under former coach Tim Floyd. Mayo is now with the NBA's Memphis Grizzlies.

The sanctions are connected to Mayo's involvement with Rodney Guillory, who under NCAA rules became a USC booster due to his role in Mayo's recruitment.

In 2008, on ESPN's "Outside The Lines," Louis Johnson, a former associate of Mayo and Guillory, accused Guillory of providing Mayo with improper benefits while the guard played for USC.

Floyd abruptly quit in June following allegations that he gave $1,000 in cash to Guillory, who helped steer Mayo to the Trojans. Mayo was one of the nation's most highly-sought prep recruits at the time.

Floyd, now an assistant with the New Orleans Hornets, has never addressed the allegations involving Mayo.

Current USC coach Kevin O'Neill told ESPN's Kelly Naqi he first learned of the sanctions from USC athletic director Michael Garrett after Saturday night's game against Arizona State. O'Neill says he met with the USC players Sunday morning and called his recruits after that.

The players were "stunned, shocked, disappointed" to learn of the sanctions, O'Neill said. The Trojans were 10-4 overall and 2-0 in the Pac-10 as of Sunday and have won eight straight games.

"[I] told them what the situation was and it was our expectation that they do the best job they can in the classroom and on the court moving forward," O'Neill said. "Nothing changes in our daily lives; it's just unfortunate that our last game is March 6th.

"The only real emotional part of this, this team has won eight in a row, has battled adversity all year long. It will test our mettle but I'm convinced they'll respond very well ... or as well as you could."

USC said it will vacate all wins during the 2007-08 regular season, which was when Mayo competed while ineligible. It will also return the money it received through the Pac-10 for taking part in the 2008 NCAA tournament. The Trojans went 21-12 (11-7 Pac-10) in 2007-08, Mayo's only year at USC, and reached the first round of the NCAA tournament, losing to Kansas State.

The sanctions affect only the men's basketball program. The university's football program is also under investigation for allegations that Reggie Bush received improper benefits while he played at the school.

"USC takes allegations of NCAA rules violations very seriously," Garrett said. "When allegations were made regarding our men's basketball program we immediately began an investigation and worked closely with the NCAA and the Pac-10 in an attempt to ascertain the truth. When we've done something wrong, we have an obligation to do something about it and that is exactly what we are doing here."

The self-imposed sanctions include:

• No postseason play in 2009-10, including the Pac-10 conference tournament.
• A reduction of one scholarship for the 2009-10 and 2010-11 academic years.
• Reducing the number of coaches permitted to recruit off-campus by one during the summer of 2010.
• Reducing the number of recruiting days for the 2010-11 academic year, to 110 from 130.

mookie2001
01-03-2010, 04:58 PM
USC is known for cheating

johngateswhiteley
01-03-2010, 05:00 PM
No. Everyone knows who won those games...changes nothing.

mookie2001
01-03-2010, 05:03 PM
if by nothing you mean everything, youre right

MajorMike
01-03-2010, 05:07 PM
Ok... SOOOOOOO, read the definition of the Death Penalty.

"The NCAA has always had the power to bar an institution from competing in a particular sport. However, in 1985, in response to rampant violations at several schools, the NCAA Council passed the "repeat violator" rule. The rule stipulates that if a second major violation occurs at any institution within five years of being on probation in the same sport or another sport, that institution can be barred from competing in the sport involved in the second violation for either one or two seasons. In cases of particularly egregious misconduct, a school can also be stripped of its right to vote at NCAA conventions for four years. The "repeat violator" rule gave the Infractions Committees of the various NCAA divisions specific instances where it either must bar a school from competing or explain why it didn't. The NCAA still has the power to ban schools from competing in a sport without any preliminary sanctions in cases of particularly serious violations."

If they find it is going to be the same story with the whole Reggie Bush thing, they could very well be subject to that, yes? I don't think anyone will ever get it again, but technichally it is legal as per the NCAA.

"Since the SMU case, the closest that the NCAA has come to imposing the "death penalty" against a football program was against the University of Alabama in 2002. The most severe violation involved boosters paying players (most notably Albert Means) to come to Alabama. Alabama was eligible for the "death penalty" because of a 1999 case in which men's basketball assistant coach Tyrone Beaman tried to convince boosters to help him start a slush fund for recruits. The boosters immediately contacted the athletics department, Beaman was fired and the incident was self-reported to the NCAA. Infractions committee chairman Thomas Yeager said that the committee seriously considered giving Alabama the "death penalty." He called the violations "some of the worst, most serious that have ever occurred" in NCAA history and claimed that the Crimson Tide were "absolutely staring down the barrel of a gun." It finally settled on five years' probation, a two-year bowl ban and the loss of 21 scholarships over three years."

"During the 2003 Baylor University basketball scandal, the NCAA infractions committee found under Dave Bliss, the Bears had engaged in violations as serious as those of SMU two decades earlier. Baylor was eligible for the "death penalty" since their tennis program had been put under probation in 2000. However, the committee decided not to issue the death penalty because Baylor took swift corrective action once the allegations came to light, including forcing Bliss' resignation (in contrast to SMU, whose administrators knew about the wrongdoing and did nothing). Ultimately, the Baylor program only received what amounted to a half-season death penalty for 2005-06. They were barred from playing any non-conference games; they could still compete against their Big 12 Conference opponents, and they did, going 4-12 and losing in the first round of the Big 12 tournament to finish 4-13 for the year."

So to be brutually honest, it seems that regardless of the universities involvement if indeed the Bush violations prove to be true I would look for the NCAA to levy something like they did to Bama (5 years, 2 bowls, 21 ships over 3 years). Which obviously as that was 2002 and this is 2010 and Bama is in the MNC game, doesn't do much.

DMX7
01-03-2010, 05:22 PM
USC will never get the death penalty. Its bigger than the NCAA.

tlongII
01-03-2010, 07:11 PM
I fucking hate the NCAA. They penalize the current players in the program who have done NOTHING wrong while Floyd and Mayo get a free pass. :rolleyes

DMX7
01-03-2010, 07:32 PM
I fucking hate the NCAA. They penalize the current players in the program who have done NOTHING wrong while Floyd and Mayo get a free pass. :rolleyes

USC imposed these sanctions on itself.

johngateswhiteley
01-03-2010, 10:38 PM
if by nothing you mean everything, youre right

Do you even pay attention to this shit? It means nothing...nothing is going to happen.

MajorMike
01-04-2010, 12:31 AM
Ask uo how gving yourself your own penalties so the NCAA won't give you any more worked out for them.

tlongII
01-04-2010, 12:32 AM
USC imposed these sanctions on itself.

Only to beat the NCAA to the punch.

mookie2001
01-04-2010, 12:35 AM
we all know who cheated, just like we all know OJ (Simpson) did it

ClingingMars
01-04-2010, 03:12 AM
USC will never get the death penalty. Its bigger than the NCAA.

^^ This

Cry Havoc
01-04-2010, 12:19 PM
College sports regulations are a joke. I'll bet that 75% of D-1 programs are openly violating recruiting policies on a daily/weekly basis.

The NCAA either needs to clean it up, or just start paying the players. This is ridiculous. A post-season potential slap on the wrist is nothing compared to a deep tournament run.

johngateswhiteley
01-04-2010, 12:49 PM
College sports regulations are a joke. I'll bet that 75% of D-1 programs are openly violating recruiting policies on a daily/weekly basis.

The NCAA either needs to clean it up, or just start paying the players. This is ridiculous. A post-season potential slap on the wrist is nothing compared to a deep tournament run.

paying the players is a horrible option...i don't know why people consistently talk about it as a feasible situation.

anyway, its a much finer line than people think and imo, the vast majority of football coaches and admin do a great job with following the rules and up keeping the integrity of College Sports. Think about all the money, all the participants and all the variables...the NCAA and its counterparts are doing a great job.

mookie2001
01-04-2010, 01:17 PM
I'll bet that 75% of D-1 programs are openly violating recruiting policies on a daily/weekly basis.

wrong, we would hear about it if it was done "openly"

just because USC got caught, AGAIN. dont blame every other program except them

Whisky Dog
01-04-2010, 01:18 PM
Nothing's going to happen although I believe USC should have the right to legal recourse against Floyd, Mayo, and Guillory since they are directly responsible just like they should have legal recourse to sue Bush for his violations. It's a travesty the players and coaches can violate the rules to better themselves. Then bolt to greener pastures with no recourse.

johngateswhiteley
01-04-2010, 01:34 PM
wrong, we would hear about it if it was done "openly"

just because USC got caught, AGAIN. dont blame every other program except them

is it really USC getting caught? ...not so fast my friend.