New Website

[honestfool84]

I'm not the best website designer out there..and I'm definitely not the richest person to afford a custom website..........yet.

That being said, I have to make my own website using JS, CSS, and HTML I find in random places all over the web.


For the New Year, I thought I'd roll out a new design, something rather simple and (hopefully) with no learning curve.

I'd like to get some real world feedback on what you guys think...especially on the "PORTFOLIO" section.

Thanks!

http://www.davidteran.com/

BTW - I apologize to the viewers with 24"+ monitors. The design was made to fit 1024x768.



This is how "it's supposed" to look. (http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/8039/picture1qs.png)

[koriwhat]

it's clean. i like it except i'd put thumbnails for the portfolio that you can click and instantly go to the photo in the slide instead of having to slide through all the photos to get to the one you want. it's all preference though.

[baseline bum]

I love the minimalism; most webpages are entirely too cluttered with useless crap, but yours is to the point and looks great in my browser (Firefox 3.5 in Ubuntu 9.10 @ 1920x1080).

[baseline bum]

it's clean. i like it except i'd put thumbnails for the portfolio that you can click and instantly go to the photo in the slide instead of having to slide through all the photos to get to the one you want. it's all preference though.

I strongly disagree. Thumbnails would be very distracting. If the filmstrip was really long, then that may be called for, but not one that can be cycled through in about a minute and is designed to show his entire portfolio.

[koriwhat]

I strongly disagree. Thumbnails would be very distracting. If the filmstrip was really long, then that may be called for, but not one that can be cycled through in about a minute and is designed to show his entire portfolio.

wish i could find some sort of example of what i am thinking of. not a traditional thumbnail gallery.

but yeah it all boils down to personal preference. good job btw.

[I. Hustle]

WOW this is the best porn site I have ever been on! I especially like the milk maid fantasy section and the game section, I can get it in her mouth almost every time!

:tu Great job!

[fraga]

Very nice and clean. I would include some sort of instructions on how to navigate those pictures...believe it or not...some people will bitch about it...maybe put something on the top right saying to use your mouse to view more pictures by moving it to the right or left.

And tell the girl in the black skirt I love her...

[honestfool84]

wish i could find some sort of example of what i am thinking of. not a traditional thumbnail gallery.

but yeah it all boils down to personal preference. good job btw.

are you talking about something along these lines (http://www.chasejarvis.com/#mi=2&pt=1&pi=10000&s=0&p=0&a=0&at=0)? if i could figure out how to do that, i wouldn't mind it. but like i said, i want something extremely simple.


WOW this is the best porn site I have ever been on! I especially like the milk maid fantasy section and the game section, I can get it in her mouth almost every time!

:tu Great job!

:lol that made me laugh.


Very nice and clean. I would include some sort of instructions on how to navigate those pictures...believe it or not...some people will bitch about it...maybe put something on the top right saying to use your mouse to view more pictures by moving it to the right or left.

And tell the girl in the black skirt I love her...


i was actually about to insert a picture at the beginning of the gallery with instructions last night, but changed my mind. :lol

and funny you mention the girl in the black skirt (Sarah). we did the same shoot in a black bikini... hahaha.

[PM5K]

I normally like clean and simple but this is too clean and simple, to the point of being boring.

[lefty]

Looks nice :tu


Bit it needs more porno pics

[Pistons < Spurs]

I normally like clean and simple but this is too clean and simple, to the point of being boring.

I'm feeling the same way.

[I. Hustle]

I normally like clean and simple but this is too clean and simple, to the point of being boring.

you're boring!

[honestfool84]

I normally like clean and simple but this is too clean and simple, to the point of being boring.

any suggestions?


Looks nice :tu


Bit it needs more porno pics

:lmao - not into doing porno, sorry. i think it's degrading and that industry is pretty dang shady.


I'm feeling the same way.

any suggestions?

[I. Hustle]

:lol that made me laugh.






I just sent a ton of traffic to your site. You can thank me later. I was going to ask for money but this Sarah sounds intriguing. I'll just take $1,000 in table dances.

[I. Hustle]

Don't ask PM5K for suggestions. He's just going to tell you that the site needs more penis. That's his cure all for every web site.

[honestfool84]

I just sent a ton of traffic to your site. You can thank me later. I was going to ask for money but this Sarah sounds intriguing. I'll just take $1,000 in table dances.

:lol

we'll see when i check out Google Analytics later on, see how much traffic you sent me. haha.

and funny tou mention table dances...nah, better not say anything about Sarah.

:D

[TDMVPDPOY]

maybe you should put up some gay porn links to ur site to increase traffic, thats what ledger does for his swordselling site.....

[honestfool84]

:rolleyes

[I. Hustle]

and funny you mention table dances...nah, better not say anything about Sarah.

:D

Come again? What was that? One more time please? I missed it.


Can a Hustle get a table dance?!

[honestfool84]

Very nice and clean. I would include some sort of instructions on how to navigate those pictures...believe it or not...some people will bitch about it...maybe put something on the top right saying to use your mouse to view more pictures by moving it to the right or left.

And tell the girl in the black skirt I love her...

http://www.davidteran.com/portfolio/

is that better on instructions?

(hover mouse over first image)

[fraga]

Um...maybe like in the top right...right now it looks clunky...

And don't listen to those that are saying it's TOO simple...you're trying to show off your Photography skills...as in the photos are the main subject you're trying to convey...why would you detract the user with other graphic elements...

And feel free to send over those bikini pics...

[760Spursfan]

Clean good job but I do agree with adding a thumbnail to the portfolio.



funny you mention the girl in the black skirt (Sarah). we did the same shoot in a black bikini... hahaha.


So why didn't you show that pic instead of the skirt?:bang

[JamStone]

Depends what you're using the website for. If it's just for your portfolio and to have it readily available for prospective jobs or clients you've come into contact with already and to maybe show friends and family, it's fine.

But if you really want traffic and use it as a tool to get prospective jobs and clients you don't even know, I don't think there's enough content. Say for example, I'm a VP of a company looking for a fresh new photographer to do a shoot for our next ad campaign. And, I'm just surfing the net looking for relatively unknown photographers who have a new and unique style. And I happen to find your website. It's not enough for me to be wowed to want to contact you about the job.

Maybe add pages where you show the evolution of some of your pictures if you did special effects to them. IIRC, you did that football stadium one where you added a different things. Show the different pictures that were part of the end product. Or pages where you have a set of pictures from the same shoot. If you have a set of the volleyball player or tennis player, show all the good pictures from that set on one page. I little write-up on yourself probably wouldn't hurt either.

There definitely is something good about simple, clean, and straight to the point. But, there is also something to being memorable.

And, I'm no web designer. So, I really don't know how to tell you to improve it in terms of adding different web thingies, tools, widgets, what have you. I'm just saying if I got to your website and went through your pics, I might think it's ok, but I probably wouldn't come back again and I wouldn't think about it once I clicked away. It's not really memorable enough.

[honestfool84]

Clean good job but I do agree with adding a thumbnail to the portfolio.





So why didn't you show that pic instead of the skirt?:bang

the bikini idea was a last second thing, and it didn't work out too well (we were rushed, and i didn't think, and i cut off her feet) thus the reason i didn't use it.

but enjoy, i guess.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4048/4248403363_bb310844c9.jpg


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2706/4248404009_6e9f8440af.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2695/4249178452_0c3692a50c.jpg


Depends what you're using the website for. If it's just for your portfolio and to have it readily available for prospective jobs or clients you've come into contact with already and to maybe show friends and family, it's fine.

But if you really want traffic and use it as a tool to get prospective jobs and clients you don't even know, I don't think there's enough content. Say for example, I'm a VP of a company looking for a fresh new photographer to do a shoot for our next ad campaign. And, I'm just surfing the net looking for relatively unknown photographers who have a new and unique style. And I happen to find your website. It's not enough for me to be wowed to want to contact you about the job.

Maybe add pages where you show the evolution of some of your pictures if you did special effects to them. IIRC, you did that football stadium one where you added a different things. Show the different pictures that were part of the end product. Or pages where you have a set of pictures from the same shoot. If you have a set of the volleyball player or tennis player, show all the good pictures from that set on one page. I little write-up on yourself probably wouldn't hurt either.

There definitely is something good about simple, clean, and straight to the point. But, there is also something to being memorable.

And, I'm no web designer. So, I really don't know how to tell you to improve it in terms of adding different web thingies, tools, widgets, what have you. I'm just saying if I got to your website and went through your pics, I might think it's ok, but I probably wouldn't come back again and I wouldn't think about it once I clicked away. It's not really memorable enough.


i know exactly what you are saying, and that's the downfall of the simplicity of this site. it's difficult to balance "simple" and "WOW".

i will probably add an "about me" sooner or later, and more images of each set, as you suggested.

[koriwhat]

are you talking about something along these lines (http://www.chasejarvis.com/#mi=2&pt=1&pi=10000&s=0&p=0&a=0&at=0)? if i could figure out how to do that, i wouldn't mind it. but like i said, i want something extremely simple.

exactly what i am talking about... flash component with xml pulled images. you could probably pull the same effect off with css&xml.

[Pistons < Spurs]

any suggestions?


I just think you need some sort of border or frame around the images to anchor it to the page. And it still retains it's clean look.

http://imgburst.com/up/photography2500.jpg

I also don't like the idea of the 'frame' being wider than just one image. It doesn't dress up your images to show 1 + 1/4 images when the page loads.

[Strange Love]

You only have a few more pics then you had last year, do you not take many pictures or is the film very expensive? I have a friend who is getting married I didn't see your price list can you post it?

Thanks.

[Vinnie_Johnson]

Check out Wix.com cool flash maker putting my site together there.

www.ragecycling.com

[The Club]

I have a friend who is getting married I didn't see your price list can you post it?

Thanks.

Your thinking of someone else who does wedding photos!

[honestfool84]

exactly what i am talking about... flash component with xml pulled images. you could probably pull the same effect off with css&xml.

well if i can figure that out, i'll be working on that. i need some sort of mouseover JS code to make the thing pop up over when you put the mouse over something specific... and then i need some sort of "database" to load the images from. i'm not sure of the technical term for that.



I also don't like the idea of the 'frame' being wider than just one image. It doesn't dress up your images to show 1 + 1/4 images when the page loads.


the idea of the "frame" being wider than one image is so that people know there are more images, and can at least start looking at the next image, to scroll over.

[honestfool84]

You only have a few more pics then you had last year, do you not take many pictures or is the film very expensive? I have a friend who is getting married I didn't see your price list can you post it?

Thanks.



i don't have any quotes on my website. if you would like some quotes, send me an email, and i can get you some.

[email protected]

thanks!

[PM5K]

First of all, any time you run a business it's important to realize that you don't have to do everything. You're a very good photographer, you don't also have to be a good website designer, just pay someone else to do it and focus on what you do best. You can even check out Craigslist and see if you can setup a barter.

As for the site itself: Having just one image does clean it up even more, if you liked ultra simplicity this would be it, but that's not my taste. I'm all for simple and clean, but not ultra simple.

Adding the border does add something to it, so you might be heading in the right direction in that regard. If it were me I'd probably go with something like this:

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/6368/54227982.jpg

The poorly done arrow on the right would indicate to the visitor that there are more pictures and hovering over that would initiate the movement. I wouldn't go with that red either, it's more of a pink but I'm sure it was just put there as an example, just like my arrow.

I don't know if you need thumbs on the main page, because you probably wouldn't put that many pictures on it, but on the portfolio there are a lot and it seemed like it was never going to end, and I had no idea how many were remaining, thumbs helps with that.

[I am Tom]

I am a little confused, is this a site to promote yourself, or to make money taking pictures?

I get the feeling it's one of those exclusive sites where you have to know someone to get an appointment. Most sites today are full of prices and cool group discounts, and specials on Framing and Mothers day 20% off if you order now, etc...

like this site...

http://www.baysbest.com/photos/

these other sites have some good qualities can you see what they are?



http://www.kurtiskronk.com/#id=album-47&num=6267


http://www.moxiephotostudio.com/

http://affordablephotographyonline.net/


http://www.landersphotography.com/

[Bukefal]

Nice job, looks simple and clean.

But it would be a bit better in my eyes to see the photos of your portfolio a bit faster. It takes pretty long time for all these photos to scroll left.

It would be nice to have something like the buttons on the bar at the bottom of a mac. you know, the pictograms, when you go over them their size increases a bit? But then that your photos are small pictograms and when you go over them with your pointer they will get bigger.

[koriwhat]

Nice job, looks simple and clean.

But it would be a bit better in my eyes to see the photos of your portfolio a bit faster. It takes pretty long time for all these photos to scroll left.

It would be nice to have something like the buttons on the bar at the bottom of a mac. you know, the pictograms, when you go over them their size increases a bit? But then that your photos are small pictograms and when you go over them with your pointer they will get bigger.

that would be simple with css.

make same thumb dimensions, downsize in css about 40%, img tag hover = 100% (this is not syntax or code), and walla!

maybe i'm not explaining it so well.

[honestfool84]

First of all, any time you run a business it's important to realize that you don't have to do everything. You're a very good photographer, you don't also have to be a good website designer, just pay someone else to do it and focus on what you do best. You can even check out Craigslist and see if you can setup a barter.

As for the site itself: Having just one image does clean it up even more, if you liked ultra simplicity this would be it, but that's not my taste. I'm all for simple and clean, but not ultra simple.

Adding the border does add something to it, so you might be heading in the right direction in that regard. If it were me I'd probably go with something like this:

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/6368/54227982.jpg

The poorly done arrow on the right would indicate to the visitor that there are more pictures and hovering over that would initiate the movement. I wouldn't go with that red either, it's more of a pink but I'm sure it was just put there as an example, just like my arrow.

I don't know if you need thumbs on the main page, because you probably wouldn't put that many pictures on it, but on the portfolio there are a lot and it seemed like it was never going to end, and I had no idea how many were remaining, thumbs helps with that.


i am looking into doing some of the suggestions i've got from this forum - that was the reason I asked for your opinions, to see what people liked and disliked.


I am a little confused, is this a site to promote yourself, or to make money taking pictures?

I get the feeling it's one of those exclusive sites where you have to know someone to get an appointment. Most sites today are full of prices and cool group discounts, and specials on Framing and Mothers day 20% off if you order now, etc...

like this site...

http://www.baysbest.com/photos/

these other sites have some good qualities can you see what they are?



http://www.kurtiskronk.com/#id=album-47&num=6267


http://www.moxiephotostudio.com/

http://affordablephotographyonline.net/


http://www.landersphotography.com/

my eventual goal is to be a commercial photographer, and not just someone in San Antonio, to be honest. not necessarily an "exclusive" site, because i made readily available a phone number and an email address to reach me, but i don't want to convey to people that i do baby portraits and baptisms.

KurtisKronk.com isn't that bad, i like his site.

as for the rest, my personal opinion is that they suck. they are trying to throw way too much information out there at the same time. that is something i was trying to avoid, honestly.

[Dr. Gonzo]

You take very good pictures.

[z0sa]

wanna hook me up with 'tara'? lol

[honestfool84]

You take very good pictures.

thank you! now i just need to get someone at ESPN and Nike to notice...haha!

ESPN, HOPEFULLY, will notice very, very soon.

[honestfool84]

wanna hook me up with 'tara'? lol

:lol how old are you? she's only 20, and i'm pretty sure she's taken right now.

i haven't talked with her in a few months, though. she has a dumb cell phone.

[z0sa]

i'm 21,

how do you know her?

[honestfool84]

i'm 21,

how do you know her?

ahh, ok.

i know her from having taken photos of her when i first started taking pictures, almost two years ago.

she volunteered to be one of my first model dummies, and we became good friends after that.

[z0sa]

cool, she is fine. you should let her know you're building her fanbase up haha.

[thispego]

I'm not exactly sure why, but i have always had a negative opinion of "professional" photographers. First off... Taking pictures is easy, a baby could do it. The only reason one persons' pictures look better than anothers' is because they have more expensive equipment. And no offense to you, david teran, but aren't you a little kid? Did your parents buy you all that equipment? Secondly, photographers have always seemed kinda sleazy to me.. Like they figured this is the perfect opportunity for them to take scantily clad pictures of pretty women and not seem like the perv they are. I'm not saying you are a pervert, david, but do you really think sarah would want you posting her bikini pictures to show these real-life, true perverts on spurstalk? Not to mention, you did post those pics in almost a gloating fashion. Just reaffirms my opinion of "professional" photographers.

[PM5K]

I don't remember thispego being a troll, but that was a pretty trollish post. I think I'll pass on feeding him...

[thispego]

Honest opinion. No troll

[koriwhat]

I'm not exactly sure why, but i have always had a negative opinion of "professional" photographers. First off... Taking pictures is easy, a baby could do it. The only reason one persons' pictures look better than anothers' is because they have more expensive equipment. And no offense to you, david teran, but aren't you a little kid? Did your parents buy you all that equipment? Secondly, photographers have always seemed kinda sleazy to me.. Like they figured this is the perfect opportunity for them to take scantily clad pictures of pretty women and not seem like the perv they are. I'm not saying you are a pervert, david, but do you really think sarah would want you posting her bikini pictures to show these real-life, true perverts on spurstalk? Not to mention, you did post those pics in almost a gloating fashion. Just reaffirms my opinion of "professional" photographers.

damn whatup HATER!?

anyhow i'm no photographer but there's a reason it's a profession and a hobby. professionals know their shit which also includes lighting which definitely isn't an easy aspect of the job.

keep hating cause your jealousy is surely brighter than the stars in the sky.

[I am Tom]

my eventual goal is to be a commercial photographer,

Good luck! there is so many out there sometimes I think you need a gimmick to standout but your not the gimmick type. So time will tell if reputation word of mouth can do it for you!


as for the rest, my personal opinion is that they suck. they are trying to throw way too much information out there at the same time. that is something i was trying to avoid, honestly.

You do make a good point but ask yourself, when you need a new coffee maker do you go to Wall mart or to Star bucks? I know the cheesy site with all the cheesy 10% and senor citizen's discount deals looks low class and all but how much business do you lose by not getting the money from your average wall mart shopper?

also props for taking the "negative" feedback well , many people around here start a topic like this then get all butt hurt when they don't like what they read, like the "Do you like my wallpaper?" topics. they always say let me know what you think good or bad then they call you a douche when you criticize something. It happed to Alamo50 before.

Have you asked Elf Louise if she wants some photos done while she fights off the Cancer it could make her day and maybe promote your work.

[PM5K]

So if it's so easy Thispego, tell us what settings HonestFool used to take some of his pictures, how he had the lighting setup, etc.

I'll give you a half hour to try to Google it, lol...

[PM5K]

I am Tom makes a good point, but I just don't think that's the type of work he wants to do, and I do see a difference between the two.

Right now he's doing cool ass shit, just look at the chick in the parking lot and all his lights setup and everything, now imagine turning around and doing the wedding of an 80 year old couple...

[thispego]

damn whatup HATER!?

anyhow i'm no photographer but there's a reason it's a profession and a hobby. professionals know their shit which also includes lighting which definitely isn't an easy aspect of the job.

keep hating cause your jealousy is surely brighter than the stars in the sky.

jealous? what of, exactly?

[koriwhat]

jealous? what of, exactly?

reach deep down inside yourself and i am sure youll find the answer.

[thispego]

So if it's so easy Thispego, tell us what settings HonestFool used to take some of his pictures, how he had the lighting setup, etc.

I'll give you a half hour to try to Google it, lol...

give me a $1000 camera and i could tell you. i dont try to pretend to know things by googling them like some people.

[thispego]

reach deep down inside yourself and i am sure youll find the answer.

that's gross

[PM5K]

You don't need a thousand dollar camera to know the answer.

[koriwhat]

give me a $1000 camera and i could tell you. i dont try to pretend to know things by googling them like some people.

maybe not with google but you sure do think you know plenty... i wonder why there's so many books on photography and schools if it's just a hobby like you say? makes one think there's more to it then just the camera huh?

btw really good cameras are like 3k. my brother has a sick camera at his pad.

oh and a good documentary on my favorite photographer james nachtwey is called war photographer... check it out!

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Nice site! :tu

It has just enough to get you excited about your product without confusing anybody.





BTW, I love the pic of the city with the person's feet dangling in the frame. My second favorite was the gal sitting at the piano with her back to the camera. Awesome shots.

[thispego]

are you sitting there telling me that you are too dumb to click a button? because I am certainly not. I dont care what setting the pictures were taken in, doesn't really matter

[Blue Jew]

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[thispego]

maybe not with google but you sure do think you know plenty... i wonder why there's so many books on photography and schools if it's just a hobby like you say? makes one think there's more to it then just the camera huh?

you kidding? there's books on everything.

yes, people do it for a living, but it's something that ANYONE could do. besides, that's not really the point of my original post.

[Blue Jew]

Honest opinion. No troll




I'd like to get some real world feedback on what you guys think.

I see no problem.

[Bukefal]

you kidding? there's books on everything.

yes, people do it for a living, but it's something that ANYONE could do. besides, that's not really the point of my original post.

Don't be so sure and full of shit. I bet if you had the best equipment around and you had to shoot photographs, it would still came out as shit or average.

It's technical and it's a artistic thing. Don't think anyone could do it just like that. You need to learn and know how to.

Of course anyone can shoot photo's but not of these qualities.

Damn, I would love to give you a good camera for a day, to see what you'll end up with, just because your mouth is so big now. :lol

[DizzG.]

I don't remember thispego being a troll, but that was a pretty trollish post. I think I'll pass on feeding him...

You may not be feeding him but by acknowledging him you put a bib around his neck.

[DizzG.]

Don't be so sure and full of shit. I bet if you had the best equipment around and you had to shoot photographs, it would still came out as shit or average.
Of course anyone can shoot photo's but not of these qualities.
:lol



In this case, the glimpses are seen through the eyes of 500 Palestinian children ages 7 to 12 who were asked to take disposable point-and-shoot cameras out into the field.


http://www.menassat.com/?q=en/news-articles/3919-lahza-camp-life-seen-through-childrens-eyes

http://www.menassat.com/files/Image/Manal-Mostafa-Diab.jpg

[thispego]

Don't be so sure and full of shit. I bet if you had the best equipment around and you had to shoot photographs, it would still came out as shit or average.

It's technical and it's a artistic thing. Don't think anyone could do it just like that. You need to learn and know how to.

Of course anyone can shoot photo's but not of these qualities.

Damn, I would love to give you a good camera for a day, to see what you'll end up with, just because your mouth is so big now. :lol

haha, yeah i would love it, too, so i could see your reaction when i produce the same quality photos.

[The Power Hour.]

I would watch bringing up how only people who have talent or went to school can take good pictures there are many kids doing it if you check out Google, in fact there is a zoo where monkeys are given a camera and taking award winning photos.

just a heads up.

:corn:

[thispego]

:hungry:

[koriwhat]

are you sitting there telling me that you are too dumb to click a button? because I am certainly not. I dont care what setting the pictures were taken in, doesn't really matter

you're so full of shit man...

so if anyone can shoot photos of the caliber or higher then why do people in the professional field get paid 6 figures+? explain please.... because by your definition all the companies should be paying minimum wage to idiots who can just push a button.

you're a fool and ignorance is your ally.

you can say the same about 3d artists though those who don't have a good grasp on lighting usually end up with shit results. good day dumbass.

[koriwhat]

BOSS!

http://www.aliciapatterson.org/APF_Fellows/2002/Nachtwey_James.jpg

[thispego]

you're so full of shit man...

so if anyone can shoot photos of the caliber or higher then why do people in the professional field get paid 6 figures+? explain please.... because by your definition all the companies should be paying minimum wage to idiots who can just push a button.

you're a full and ignorance is your ally.

you can say the same about 3d artists though those who don't have a good grasp on lighting usually end up with shit results. good day dumbass.

yeah, LMAO at your quick defense of the hobby of photography, i'm not sure where your loyalty comes from, but I will tell you that you are wrong. There are always a select few people who get paid gobs of money for doing the same work as others, they just happen to be victims of fortuitous circumstances. Maybe they take pictures at the base of an active volcano, or they camp out in frozen antarctica for a year to capture mating habits of polar bears or something. There are photographers who take good pictures and perform valuable services. then there are photographers who take the exact same picture anyone else would standing behind a lense pushing a button.

[DizzG.]

reach deep down inside yourself and i am sure youll find the answer.


ok...............now what?..........oh btw .....I am using my left hand, is that alright?

[honestfool84]

The only reason one persons' pictures look better than anothers' is because they have more expensive equipment.

if i place you in the seat of Dale Earnhardt's 3 Busch Series car, does that make you a good driver?

if i were to give you a Montblanc pen, would that make you a world-class lawyer?

if you were to get into a Speedo LZR suit, would you turn into the next Michael Phelps?


contrary to popular belief, your equipment doesn't make you who you are.

i don't claim to be any Annie Leibowitz or Ansel Adams, but i can assure you i'm not doing what i do because i have an "expensive" camera.

oh, quite the contrary - i just got a new "expensive" (nikon d700, $2500) camera in november. 85% of my shots on my website were taken with a $200 camera.


And no offense to you, david teran, but aren't you a little kid? Did your parents buy you all that equipment?


i guess some would consider me a kid..i'm 20. to answer your question, my parents gave me a $200 camera on my 18th birthday (november 6, 2007). that's ALL the camera gear they've bought for me.

the rest of the $10,000+ gear i own, i paid for every single cent.


Nice site! :tu

It has just enough to get you excited about your product without confusing anybody.





BTW, I love the pic of the city with the person's feet dangling in the frame. My second favorite was the gal sitting at the piano with her back to the camera. Awesome shots.

thank you! :toast

the person's feet dangling in front of the city is actually ME. haha. i had been wanting to have a cameo in my website for a while, and i thought that would work best.


ok...............now what?..........oh btw .....I am using my left hand, is that alright?

gross.

[honestfool84]

oh yeh.. if i gave you a Spurs uniform, would that make you as good as Tim Duncan? :D

[thispego]

those are all bad analogies. here are some better ones.

if i gave you a stick of dynamite and a detonator does that make you a demolition expert?

if i give you a high powered telescope does that make you an astronomer?

it's a matter of the tool doing all the work rather than the person controlling the tool doing the work.

[thispego]

also, you skipped responding to this part...

Secondly, photographers have always seemed kinda sleazy to me.. Like they figured this is the perfect opportunity for them to take scantily clad pictures of pretty women and not seem like the perv they are. I'm not saying you are a pervert, david, but do you really think sarah would want you posting her bikini pictures to show these real-life, true perverts on spurstalk? Not to mention, you did post those pics in almost a gloating fashion. Just reaffirms my opinion of "professional" photographers.

[honestfool84]

those are all bad analogies. here are some better ones.

if i gave you a stick of dynamite and a detonator does that make you a demolition expert?

no.


if i give you a high powered telescope does that make you an astronomer?

no.


it's a matter of the tool doing all the work rather than the person controlling the tool doing the work.

why would you suggest a photographer doesn't do anything at all, but that it's the camera?

85% of my work my website was done with a crappy 10 year old $200 camera. that kind of voids your argument.

[honestfool84]

also, you skipped responding to this part...


she doesn't care, no. she was actually disappointed that i didn't use them up on my website.

EDIT: she was disappointed i didn't use the one where she was running up on my website.

and considering she works at a hooters, i'm pretty sure she's used to getting a bunch of crap from real life perverts.

[z0sa]

so Pego,

Tim Duncan's not good at basketball. The basketball is just good at going in the rim without his help. Or the astronomer's telescope labels stars and explains their formation and contents, not the scientist.

:rolleyes

And seriously bro, a chick who's clearly posing for photographs probably doesn't mind people seeing said pics of her... she probably knows that's going to happen, or she wouldn't be posing in the first place.

[thispego]

no.



no.



why would you suggest a photographer doesn't do anything at all, but that it's the camera?

85% of my work my website was done with a crappy 10 year old $200 camera. that kind of voids your argument.

you don't have to do nothing, you have to point and click.

and what does the price of the camera have to do with anything? the pictures are all photoshopped.

[honestfool84]

you don't have to do nothing, you have to point and click.

and what does the price of the camera have to do with anything? the pictures are all photoshopped.




Taking pictures is easy, a baby could do it. The only reason one persons' pictures look better than anothers' is because they have more expensive equipment.

you tell me.

what do you do for a living, pego?

[koriwhat]

thispego you're so ignorant it's hilarious!

i do however love that avatar because well dumb n dumber is my favorite movie... you could be casted in dumb n dumber 3 if there ever was one to be made.

[thispego]

so Pego,

Tim Duncan's not good at basketball. The basketball is just good at going in the rim without his help. Or the astronomer's telescope labels stars and explains their formation and contents, not the scientist.

:rolleyes

And seriously bro, a chick who's clearly posing for photographs probably doesn't mind people seeing said pics of her... she probably knows that's going to happen, or she wouldn't be posing in the first place.

haha you are a moron, you picked probably his dumbest analogy to make your point.

a basketball is not a machine that does all the work for you. any idiot can pick up a camera and take a picture and develop it or look into a telescope and record what they see.

and you are one of the biggest pervs on here, you were probably the first to rub one out over that poor unassuming girl.

[z0sa]

haha you are a moron, you picked probably his dumbest analogy to make your point.

Your point. I'm glad you see how stupid it is.

[thispego]

you tell me.

what do you do for a living, pego?

anything i want. admittedly i'm not in my dream career yet, but everyone has to pay their dues unless their nice things in life are just handed to them.

[thispego]

Your point. I'm glad you see how stupid it is.

never have i had a point that was stupid.

[honestfool84]

haha you are a moron, you picked probably his dumbest analogy to make your point.

a basketball is not a machine that does all the work for you. any idiot can pick up a camera and take a picture and develop it or look into a telescope and record what they see.

and you are one of the biggest pervs on here, you were probably the first to rub one out over that poor unassuming girl.


the camera doesn't do all the work for you!

i'll tell you what. how about we shoot the same camera, and process on the same computer.

we'll see who's picture comes out better.

[thispego]

thispego you're so ignorant it's hilarious!

i do however love that avatar because well dumb n dumber is my favorite movie... you could be casted in dumb n dumber 3 if there ever was one to be made.

i aint ignant, i know everything :ihit




seriosuly, though, i'm right.

[thispego]

the camera doesn't do all the work for you!

i'll tell you what. how about we shoot the same camera, and process on the same computer.

we'll see who's picture comes out better.
sure, i'd love to prove my point

[honestfool84]

sure, i'd love to prove my point

you still haven't said anything about the fact that 85% of my pictures on my website were taken with a $200 camera.

[thispego]

yeah i did, i said all the pictures were photoshopped so your finished product was not what you developed from your $200 camera

[honestfool84]

yeah i did, i said all the pictures were photoshopped so your finished product was not what you developed from your $200 camera

lol. alright, you win.

you could have just said my website sucked and saved ourselves the trouble.

:lol

[thispego]

i never said your website sucked

[honestfool84]

i never said your website sucked

i know, i know. but you could have said my work sucked or something.

i suppose you gave me your honest opinion, and that's what i asked for.

that it's a bit naive, well...

[thispego]

i never actually commented on YOUR work, just the work of photographers in general. I mean, my honest opinion of your work is that they are pictures, just look like regular pictures you would see in a magazine or yearbook or something. I dont think they're GREAT i don't think they're HORRIBLE. They're pictures, how great or horrible could they be? I think all these people could have taken portraits themseves but, hey, i guess that's why they hire you, you have the equipment and it's probably easier than going out to rent your own.

[fraga]

Having done some photography and TONS of Photoshop touch-ups and alterations...I will say that it DOES take someone who knows a little something about posing...setting up the shot...frame of reference...and an overall good knowledge of context to pull off a great photograph...however...even a bad shot can almost always be saved by my friend...Photoshop... :D

[katyon6th]

I'm a fan of your work and I think your new website is a great start considering you just found code over the internet and put it all together to come up with it.

My opinions on the site: I don't particularly like the effect you used for your portfolio section - it makes me dizzy. I also feel it doesn't showcases your work very well. Thumbnails are almost always a good idea. I think once you figure out what you want to do with your site, more content should be added. Also, I cringed a little when I saw the font you used for your logo. Just my very humble opinion, of course. :)

Good start, though.

[honestfool84]

thanks!

i appreciate your opinion, as humble as you think it is!
maybe i should slow down the scroll? the problem with that is that it is slow on the way back, as well.

i wish i were better with code...or that i had a spare $5000 around to purchase the site that i eventually want to upgrade to. lol.

and by content do you mean more photos?