Raising the Bar; Help Wanted

[timvp]

As the Spurs journey through their 13th consecutive season as an elite team in the NBA, it's undeniable that SpursTalk.com has failed to remain elite in the beginning of the 2009-2010 NBA season. For a myriad of reasons, the quality-to-noise ratio has been at an unacceptably low level. I take partial responsibility, as life issues indefinitely suspended my participation on the forums. But now I hope to help nudge SpursTalk.com into the correct direction so that it can regain its rightful position.

In addition to raising my posting level, I'll also make it a point to author three features for each game: Keys to Victory, Initial Reaction and Game Thoughts. Kori Ellis has a yet to be revealed feature that will definitely raise the bar.

How can you help? Kori Ellis and I have a long list of feature ideas that can add to the quality of SpursTalk.com ... if we can only locate the necessary help. If you are willing to help, we will be grateful. No matter if you only have time for a one and done feature that involves minimal basketball knowledge or you want to tackle a larger project, we can work together to figure it out. If you are interested, please send me a PM. Thank you in advance for your consideration.

In addition to features, overall posting quality will be held up to a slightly higher standard. The freedom SpursTalk.com offers won't be altered, however we do ask that you take more time when it comes to starting threads and expressing your vulgar thoughts and emotions. A poster who gets multiple threads merged due not giving common courtesy to the very simple rules when it comes to starting threads will now automatically lose their ability to start threads for period of a month. Extreme and unnecessary vulgarity will also come under scrutiny. We can live with 99% of the vulgarity but the over the line potshots will result in a warning to help serve as a reminder that the bar has indeed been raised.

Even if you believe that nothing above applies to you, I simply ask that you make a small effort to improve your contribution level. If we all take a little step, the result will be a large improvement.

In the long history of SpursTalk.com, only a few generations have been granted the role of defending greatness in its hour of maximum danger. I do not shrink from this responsibility -- I welcome it. I do not believe that any of us would exchange places with any other fans or any other generation. The energy, the faith, the devotion which we bring to this team will light our forum and all who read it -- and the glow from that fire can truly light the path to back to greatness.

And so, my fellow SpursTalk.com brethren: Ask not what your forum can do for you -- ask what you can do for your forum.

[spurspokesman]

Great post. Good to see some regulating under way. Hopefully people come to understand common respect. Also a limit on threads. +1

[lurker23]

:lol

:tu

Always willing to help.

[portnoy1]

Thats cool, and not a problem at all. I love this site.

[Chieflion]

Wow, no problem. I am willing to hellp, if given the chance. I love this forum.

[urunobili]

I'm glad i didn't give up on ST... I knew you guys would come back and now it seems that stronger than ever... I learned more about basketball on here reading from people that knows a lot about it than playing it myself on the courts...

Spurs values and promote class on top of other things and I'm glad ST is up to those standards...

Thread opening limitation has been desired by many people trying to have good use of their time while on here for some time now.

Thanks Kori and timvp for running the best site on the Internet and doing so free.

If there is anyway you think I can contribute apart from refraining from posting stuff that doesn't bring anything to the table let me know.

[wildbill2u]

Anyone who can't express opinions about basketball without vulgarities and excessive profanity is a fucking moron.

(See how a written word is more noticeable than the same word would be in conversation--and it doesn't really make the point as well as if it was left out IMHO.
My personal conversation mode is probably as profane and vulgar as anyone's, but I know that putting it in writing on the net is LIKE USING ALL CAPS TO MAKE A POINT BECAUSE IT COMES ACROSS AS SCREAMING)


The anonymity on the internet provided by usernames lets the child in all of us come out and some of the smack talk here against other posters wouldn't be used face to face because you'd run the risk of getting your butt kicked.


I realize that posters here cherish the place as perhaps the only participatory forum in the world that accepts extreme bad language, but that's simply ridiculous.

If the owners decided to limit bad language, I don't think anyone would leave. Where would they go? On the other hand, how many people are offended by some of the extreme stuff and quietly depart without fanfare, leaving only the morons behind?

[MagnusKrauss]

hey, anything i can do to help :D

[Fabbs]

:clap:flag:

[benefactor]

Great post and a breath of fresh air for the regulars. This forum has been headed the wrong direction over the past few months and it's good to see that you and Kori are getting things sorted out in your personal life to the point where you two can be around more. You two are great leaders and have been successful in making this place the best basketball site on the internet.

If needed for anything, I am available. I am willing to do whatever you two need to continue to make this place great.

[Spursfanfromafar]

Since there is an effort by the forum founders to address the issue of vulgarity, may I request them (and moderators) to be more scrutinizing of some of the posters' signatures/avatars here in the forum? Scantily clad ladies (and in some cases, barely ladies or young girls) are suitable for a porn-forum, not a basketball discussion forum, isn't that so? I use the profile based settings to remove these signatures from view, but I also view the forum from an office server firewall, where history, cache and cookies are frequently cleared. It should not be made incumbent on readers to have mandatory logins to not see vulgarity so clearly imposed on their eyes by some juvenile posters.

I also agree that there is a thin line between moderation and censorship; but etiquette is a good word and deed. Timvp, Kori - could you please lean on those posters to not have such vulgar signatures?

[G-Nob]

Since there is an effort by the forum founders to address the issue of vulgarity, may I request them (and moderators) to be more scrutinizing of some of the posters' signatures/avatars here in the forum? Scantily clad ladies (and in some cases, barely ladies or young girls) are suitable for a porn-forum, not a basketball discussion forum, isn't that so? I use the profile based settings to remove these signatures from view, but I also view the forum from an office server firewall, where history, cache and cookies are frequently cleared. It should not be made incumbent on readers to have mandatory logins to not see vulgarity so clearly imposed on their eyes by some juvenile posters.

I also agree that there is a thin line between moderation and censorship; but etiquette is a good word and deed. Timvp, Kori - could you please lean on those posters to not have such vulgar signatures?

People are easier to keep in line when you cater to their negative impulses.

[Spursfanfromafar]

People are easier to keep in line when you cater to their negative impulses.

How far would you go to cater to a negative impulse? Aren't there limits?

[I. Hustle]

:corn:

[G-Nob]

How far would you go to cater to a negative impulse? Aren't there limits?

Of course but I'm not going to get into a debate about what is over the line and what isn't. Not sure that was timvp's intention of starting this thread. But there are preferences placed in the control panel for a reason. If you are worried about your company's rules of behavior as far as the internet is concerned, I know you're smart enough not to access this at work. The strength of this forum relies heavily on uncensored opinions.

And it is the "juvenile posters" that provide the vulgarity in their signatures.

[biziofromdowntown]

I'd like help this great forum, but my english isn't good enough

[Kori Ellis]

I have removed some signatures that I thought were over the line. However, there is going to be no rule changes eliminating "scantily clad women" and the such from sigs. You can turn off all the forum images...avatars, signatures, whatever, if you are posting from work. I would certainly suggest it if you are monitored in anyway. I might be able to set the forum so that Guests (when you aren't logged in) don't see signatures.

Anyway, this thread wasn't meant to turn into a bitchfest. We are fully aware that we haven't done much with the forum in the last five months or so. So, we know what needs correcting.

-K

[Bukefal]

Nice post! Glad to see something is going to be done on the vulgarity and massive cursing and bullshit which is going around. There is no need for that. Of course it's nice you can say almost everything you want, but its taken too far in my eyes with unnecessary hate and slurs and stuff.

:toast

ps. Would you consider giving us, international fans, a special International basketball sub-forum? Without facing the hate of American basketball fans towards European or int. ball? We had about this before some months ago with Kori, but now you are asking for ideas and help.

[Chieflion]

I think there should be some control over racial issues. We really don't need the racist crap in a forum where posters from many nationalities post. Even if it were meant as a joke, people would still feel insulted.

[urunobili]

ps. Would you consider giving us, international fans, a special International basketball sub-forum? Without facing the hate of American basketball fans towards European or int. ball? We had about this before some months ago with Kori, but now you are asking for ideas and help.

We have that already though mookie and some trolls show up from time to time :)

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=33

[dbestpro]

[QUOTE=Spursfanfromafar;3973241]Since there is an effort by the forum founders to address the issue of vulgarity, may I request them (and moderators) to be more scrutinizing of some of the posters' signatures/avatars here in the forum? /QUOTE]

I do not have these signatures that you describe. I also do not support censorship unless it is nudity or under age. There are enough people in this world trying to tell other people what is right from wrong through censorship. What you deem vulgar others see as artistic. As pointed out there are tools to censure from your own eyes what you do not want to see. If it is a problem at work then perhaps you shouldn't use work assets for this forum.

Also, be careful with edits. No argument will ever be won in any discussion when only one side is allowed to talk. This is even if the other side seems to be a complete moron. They will not learn unless they are allowed to be proved wrong. This is with any debate and not just this forum.

[urunobili]

I think there should be some control over racial issues. We really don't need the racist crap in a forum where posters from many nationalities post. Even if it were meant as a joke, people would still feel insulted.

Racist comments come generally from Laker fans and Xenophobic ones from Mavs fans... that mostly happens on the NBA forum I haven't seen any of that on the Spurs one... :wakeup

[Chieflion]

Racist comment come generally from Laker fans and Xenophobic ones from Mavs fans... that mostly happens on the NBA forum I haven't seen any of that on the Spurs one... :wakeup
We are fixing the whole forum anyway. Just a general comment. I really feel that we shouldn't be seeing this stuff not on any forum. Anytime this happens in any other forum, it would most probably result in a warning, temporary ban or permanent ban if repeated too many times. It stretches out to many political issues if race and religion is involved in any argument just because a jerk feels like shitting on your race.

[sonic21]

You do get banned for racists comments here too.

KBP got banned after his 328th racist comments.

[Chieflion]

You do get banned for racists comments here too.

KBP got banned after his 328th racist comments.
He didn't really get banned. I think he is just not allowed to post or something. I still see him viewing the forum sometimes, proving that he is still able to log in.

[Kori Ellis]

KBP emailed me two days ago, begging to come back.

[Bukefal]

We have that already though mookie and some trolls show up from time to time :)

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=33

Yeah but that's just a international forum in the way of speaking in your own language about anything. What I mean is a special European Basketball forum, for basketball talk. But some months ago, the argentines and other outside europe would think its a good idea, only if the European basketball forum would be made into a International basketball forum, so hence the Int. forum.

[Bukefal]

KBP emailed me two days ago, begging to come back.

:lol haha, what are you going to do? :king

[Chieflion]

KBP emailed me two days ago, begging to come back.
I would really like to see the content of the email.

[Kori Ellis]

Yeah but that's just a international forum in the way of speaking in your own language about anything. What I mean is a special European Basketball forum, for basketball talk. But some months ago, the argentines and other outside europe would think its a good idea, only if the European basketball forum would be made into a International basketball forum, so hence the Int. forum.

How many people do you think would participate regularly?

[urunobili]

Yeah but that's just a international forum in the way of speaking in your own language about anything. What I mean is a special European Basketball forum, for basketball talk. But some months ago, the argentines and other outside europe would think its a good idea, only if the European basketball forum would be made into a International basketball forum, so hence the Int. forum.

I have asked for the same thing for a while now... especially when we have FIBA tournaments going on... the trolls ruin any possibility of a smart talk of what's going on on it though the NBA's forum original essence is about that...

[Bukefal]

How many people do you think would participate regularly?

Well, I don't know for sure, but I remember when we were talking about it back in September or something, there were quite some people who liked the idea.

[Bukefal]

I have asked for the same thing for a while now... especially when we have FIBA tournaments going on... the trolls ruin any possibility of a smart talk of what's going on on it though the NBA's forum original essence is about that...

Indeed, especially with FIBA tournaments yes, like the last Eurobasket for example, it would be great to had a special int. ball forum back then, also for the World championships. But of course also Euroleague and French, Greek leagues etc..

[Bukefal]

We are fixing the whole forum anyway. Just a general comment. I really feel that we shouldn't be seeing this stuff not on any forum. Anytime this happens in any other forum, it would most probably result in a warning, temporary ban or permanent ban if repeated too many times. It stretches out to many political issues if race and religion is involved in any argument just because a jerk feels like shitting on your race.

Exactly, racism shouldnt be tolerated.

[Rummpd]

Respect to you and Kori!

[XFactor]

This is probably the only forum I've been to where Admins and users can interact with each other in a positive way to promote the site and upgrade it. All the other forums I've been to won't even reply to a damn PM. KUDOS to you guys

[CubanMustGo]

Indeed, especially with FIBA tournaments yes, like the last Eurobasket for example, it would be great to had a special int. ball forum back then, also for the World championships. But of course also Euroleague and French, Greek leagues etc..

What about creating a 'mini forum', moderated by someone with a solid track record, that would be like the "People SW actually wants to talk to" forum? The trolls never are allowed in, or if they are, the mini forum mod swiftly kicks them out? And since it wouldn't show up in the standard list of forums, at least some of the trolls wouldn't know it even existed. Just a thought.

timvp and Kori, I'm more of a NBA/Spurs dilettante than an expert, but if there is some small way you think I could help, let me know.

[JR3]

I'm new to the forum and was still in limbo about it due to our rediculous things get around here. Glad to hear this statement.

[dbestpro]

KBP emailed me two days ago, begging to come back.

I say let him back. Some of his stuff was fun and even (gulp!) informative.
As long as he doesn't lose his mind in debate he should be okay.

[Dex]

I suppose this would be a bad time for an LOL SpursTalk?

I kid, I kid. I agree with this post wholeheartedly. While I still think SpursTalk is the greatest place on the net, the quality of the discussions has left something to be desired lately. There is still some intelligent conversation and debate, but you have to weed through a clusterfuck of player bashing, bad trade scenarios, and general nonsense to find it.

One of the greatest things about this forum is its freedom and lack of censorship, but that doesn't mean that all posts can completely lack substance. All of the trolls, while occasionally funny, are probably half of the problem. The other half are just people who don't think before posting, or would post something to get a rise rather than contribute an opinion. I'm probably guilty of a little of this as well (I like funny pictures, so sue me).

I don't think every post made needs to necessarily be a thesis or anything, but if the whole site makes a collective effort to start contributing some genuine discussion, I bet we can easily raise the bar a notch. :tu

[sonic21]

if the whole site makes a collective effort to start contributing some genuine discussion, I bet we can easily raise the bar a notch. :tu

:tu

so who's better? tony or manu?

[Sigz]

Yeah, the vulgar words need to come to an end...

[rascal]

KBP emailed me two days ago, begging to come back.

Charge him a fee.

[Spurminator]

http://scrapetv.com/News/News%20Pages/Entertainment/images-4/braveheart-4.jpg

[Dex]

:tu

so who's better? tony or manu?

I thought they were both terrible?

[MaNuMaNiAc]

I'm in. What can I do to help?

[Cane]

The freedom Spurstalk allows is awesome but it could use a little more moderation especially in the NBA forum. Banning trolls like Culburn and topics like these demonstrate that this site is on the right track.

Features like th OP's game thoughts are the best things about the site in addition to all the other great Spurs topics. However on the flipside there are still posters, even regulars, that are just trying to threaten eachother with personal attacks and stir up shit which needlessly adds noise and trolling.

A feature that might be worth looking into would be a real mainpage for the site instead of going straight to the forum list (not too different from realgm.com). The mainpage could include the features this site offers like the OP's game-thoughts threads and a mainpage puts the great stuff on the forefront for visitors to see and click.

[Brazil]

How many people do you think would participate regularly?

Great timvp post !

Regarding international basketball forum I don't know if we need a specific one cauz there is already the international forum and we can open threads there but it lacks a little bit of visibility and maybe you should includ it in the Sports forum.

If I can do something for the forum it would be my pleasure even if my BB knowledge is limited compared to you guys, for the rest I will keep on retaining myself to open useless threads, making crazy sigs etc...


BTW if KBP could have a little bit of decency, seeing him again on the forum would be fun, he has some international bb knowledge once in a while from Greece or Arkansas or whatever the place he lives.

[z0sa]

I'm trying to up my game. I hope everyone else wants to do the same ya gotta want it!!

[Kori Ellis]

A feature that might be worth looking into would be a real mainpage for the site instead of going straight to the forum list (not too different from realgm.com). The mainpage could include the features this site offers like the OP's game-thoughts threads and a mainpage puts the great stuff on the forefront for visitors to see and click.

We used to have it, but took it down. I'm not sure we would consider it again but perhaps. Thanks.

[NFGIII]

I suppose this would be a bad time for an LOL SpursTalk?

I kid, I kid. I agree with this post wholeheartedly. While I still think SpursTalk is the greatest place on the net, the quality of the discussions has left something to be desired lately. There is still some intelligent conversation and debate, but you have to weed through a clusterfuck of player bashing, bad trade scenarios, and general nonsense to find it.

One of the greatest things about this forum is its freedom and lack of censorship, but that doesn't mean that all posts can completely lack substance. All of the trolls, while occasionally funny, are probably half of the problem. The other half are just people who don't think before posting, or would post something to get a rise rather than contribute an opinion. I'm probably guilty of a little of this as well (I like funny pictures, so sue me).

I don't think every post made needs to necessarily be a thesis or anything, but if the whole site makes a collective effort to start contributing some genuine discussion, I bet we can easily raise the bar a notch. :tu

Amen.

Continually I have to weed through the posts to get to someone that I believe brings valid points/opinions to the subject matter. Admittedly I skip many posters since after reading many of their threads/posts I've come to disregard them as worthy of my time, which is sad since all should be given consideration when replying to a thread. My rule is to give a reply that has some substance and addresses the subject matter. I rarely address anyone with in vulgar terms since you can make the same point without doing so. Anyway every one has a right to their opinion and as long as we respect one another and use common sense everything will work out.

Tmvp/Kori - you guys rock. Keep it up.

[Spursmania]

Yeah, the vulgar words need to come to an end...

Yes they do, and I'm sure you would like to lead by setting the example right Sigz? People shouldn't be allowed to post ridiculous and/or redundant threads should they?

Hint, hint...

[Bukefal]

Great timvp post !

Regarding international basketball forum I don't know if we need a specific one cauz there is already the international forum and we can open threads there but it lacks a little bit of visibility and maybe you should includ it in the Sports forum.

If I can do something for the forum it would be my pleasure even if my BB knowledge is limited compared to you guys, for the rest I will keep on retaining myself to open useless threads, making crazy sigs etc...


BTW if KBP could have a little bit of decency, seeing him again on the forum would be fun, he has some international bb knowledge once in a while from Greece or Arkansas or whatever the place he lives.

I agree on his decency, it sure is a bit quiet around here now that he is gone :lol . He indeed did have big European basketball knowledge and it was fun and interesting reading what he had to say and going into discussion with him, but yeah his anger and cursing and hate towards almost everyone was ridiculous. If he refrains from doing so, I would not mind him coming back, but I doubt he can.

[ElNono]

If there's anything I can do to lend a hand, just fire up a PM :toast

[TDMVPDPOY]

i wouldnt mind mod powers to me, myself and i

wat u say.....

[JamStone]

I don't have a problem with most of the trolls. In fact, it's the non-troll posters who respond to troll posts and threads and take them too seriously that allows the trolls to continue to be a problem. The more the "bad" trolls are ignored, the more likely they will slowly go away.

I hope this action to "raise the bar" includes the NBA section.

[Spursmania]

I don't have a problem with most of the trolls. In fact, it's the non-troll posters who respond to troll posts and threads and take them too seriously that allows the trolls to continue to be a problem. The more the "bad" trolls are ignored, the more likely they will slowly go away.

I hope this action to "raise the bar" includes the NBA section.

I would hope so since the NBA section seems to be the biggest problem.

[angel_luv]

I support all the points you made, LJ.
A quick side note: You are an excellent writer.

[HoopsCzar]

As the Spurs journey through their 13th consecutive season as an elite team in the NBA, it's undeniable that SpursTalk.com has failed to remain elite in the beginning of the 2009-2010 NBA season. For a myriad of reasons, the quality-to-noise ratio has been at an unacceptably low level. I take partial responsibility, as life issues indefinitely suspended my participation on the forums. But now I hope to help nudge SpursTalk.com into the correct direction so that it can regain its rightful position.

In addition to raising my posting level, I'll also make it a point to author three features for each game: Keys to Victory, Initial Reaction and Game Thoughts. Kori Ellis has a yet to be revealed feature that will definitely raise the bar.

How can you help? Kori Ellis and I have a long list of feature ideas that can add to the quality of SpursTalk.com ... if we can only locate the necessary help. If you are willing to help, we will be grateful. No matter if you only have time for a one and done feature that involves minimal basketball knowledge or you want to tackle a larger project, we can work together to figure it out. If you are interested, please send me a PM. Thank you in advance for your consideration.

In addition to features, overall posting quality will be held up to a slightly higher standard. The freedom SpursTalk.com offers won't be altered, however we do ask that you take more time when it comes to starting threads and expressing your vulgar thoughts and emotions. A poster who gets multiple threads merged due not giving common courtesy to the very simple rules when it comes to starting threads will now automatically lose their ability to start threads for period of a month. Extreme and unnecessary vulgarity will also come under scrutiny. We can live with 99% of the vulgarity but the over the line potshots will result in a warning to help serve as a reminder that the bar has indeed been raised.

Even if you believe that nothing above applies to you, I simply ask that you make a small effort to improve your contribution level. If we all take a little step, the result will be a large improvement.

In the long history of SpursTalk.com, only a few generations have been granted the role of defending greatness in its hour of maximum danger. I do not shrink from this responsibility -- I welcome it. I do not believe that any of us would exchange places with any other fans or any other generation. The energy, the faith, the devotion which we bring to this team will light our forum and all who read it -- and the glow from that fire can truly light the path to back to greatness.

And so, my fellow SpursTalk.com brethren: Ask not what your forum can do for you -- ask what you can do for your forum.

Great to hear,..

In fact that's partially why I came back to re-visit this form. Part to share my perspectives on what I've evaluated of the Spurs. But to also infuse some sensible interjection to help clean the clocks of some of the quacks that I was informed had mounted an effort to overrun your forums.

See from my initial visit a few years ago I've developed a fond respect and embrace for this forum and a great number of San Antonio Spurs fans.

So once informed of what was happening there was no way I wasn't going to help. You Guy's & Gal's made the effort to provide a great venue for sports fans and more specifically Spurs faithful. So knowing it takes a community effort to support there was no way I was going to just do nothing and allow a few bad apples to ruin it for everybody.

In fact not to campaign for censorship but the liberty of expression often becomes so abused. Sometimes and often to the point of individuals rendering senseless, tasteless, baseless, disrespectful profanity laced innuendo. That it becomes a polarizing detraction for those whom don't employ, condone or appreciate it,..those whom did it sought pleasure of overrunning the community.

Again thus is such a conflict in character that became a direct result of why the quality of content of posters of a differing character, interest and manner declined. Solely by the more upstanding not wanting the hassle of dealing with the idiots nor favoring exposure to them.

It won't take long to clean it up and get the forum back on the right track. But it takes conscious, diligence of vigilant effort and consistency to enforce the rule of clean play,..even if / when we hang on another posters Rim for forum fun and frolic.

[HoopsCzar]

I think there should be some control over racial issues. We really don't need the racist crap in a forum where posters from many nationalities post. Even if it were meant as a joke, people would still feel insulted.

You're right,..

Where I love spirited fans and with engage barb, trick shots and quick quit from A-Z in a for forum fun type manner. But things like racism aren't in my arsenal nor interest and has absolutely has no place in society nor in a sports forum,..I'm an equal opportunity player that in my style and focus of play I can care absolutely less about ones race, faith and gender.

See the games are won and lost on a balance of talent, effort, coaching insight and sometimes a lucky bounce or favor of a questionable call or two. But nowhere in the games outcomes nor any aspect of discussion of them in any pretense. Does nor should the nationality, faith, region nor gender of player, ref, coach nor even fan have anything to do with it,..none, zero, Na Da and it's not open to allege or contend otherwise.

When I encounter such an individual it immediately lets me know they're the most twisted of all useless twisted[s]. Also it signifies it's allowed, condoned and embraced if action isn't taken to ban such a senseless individual. So if and when I do engage them it's in a manner to dismantle and crush them in a far more personal and purposeful manner than wouldn't make for meating out " wholesome " indifference,..they're best ignored while awaiting their being banned which should be swift and immediate.

[Obstructed_View]

Sounds like a great plan. Can't wait to see it take shape.

[Dr. Gonzo]

I should be made moderator of the NFL forum so I can clean up the hundreds of pointless threads in there.

[Solid D]

You have my support on this whole "Raising the Bar" thing. I'm glad to see more effort in this area.

[Spursmania]

I'm all for bettering this site and its content while remaining an open forum with limited censor. It seems pretty easy to weed out the pedaphiles and racially motivated posts. Temporary suspension might work after a protracted disregard and abuse of the site.

[blkroadrunners]

If you need help, just call me. I'm fairly new to this site, but IMO, I think you and Kori (if I left out anybody, sry) are more of the responsible administrators that I have witness out of any message board. Glad you guys are taking care of any problems and concerns. :toast

[Sigz]

I will live with a Becky Hammon section on SpursTalk. Other then that, there just doesn't seem to be a respectable place on here to talk about her.

Shame...

[HarlemHeat37]

I'm down to help, let me know if you need anything..

[Solid D]

http://www.mailbling.com/draft35.jpg
"Raise the Bar" and give this forum a "boost".

[DPG21920]

Call me Mark-Paul Gosselaar

[DAF86]

http://www.mailbling.com/draft35.jpg


Sequ for the win, that Manu shirt only makes him cooler.

[The Great Fantastic]

Totally down for raising the bar. I am going to start by actually trying to contribute. My first goal was to read some of the great insight on this board and to mock all idiots. Now I will allow myself to be mocked by showing my true self, as an idiot. You asked for it. The bar has officially been raisened!!!!!

[igruex]

I might be able to set the forum so that Guests (when you aren't logged in) don't see signatures.

That would be great. In fact, I can't think of any downside having signatures off for guests.

[ploto]

How many people do you think would participate regularly?

I don't think that we have really ever had any problem discussing, for example, the Slovenian National Team, during the summer when they are playing in Eurobasket or the World Championships. A couple of people might come in just to rag on Beno, but they pretty much get ignored (or agreed with).

We have always had a special thread for these tournaments, as well, that have seemed to me to be fine for discussion.

[Udokafan05]

All for it

[yourtehclay]

I'll upgrade from lurker to a more regular poster. That probably isn't much of a contribution but it's all I can offer.

[Agloco]

http://www.mailbling.com/draft35.jpg
"Raise the Bar" and give this forum a "boost".

I hope Sequ took his happy meds before timvp announced this...:lol

[lennyalderette]

i would love to help anyway i can, i havent been here long, but i can tell this isnt the way things are supposed to be run. not being arrogant, just would like a nice balance and courtesy between our fellow fans

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

You have my support on this whole "Raising the Bar" thing. I'm glad to see more effort in this area.

Word. The old timers have your back, LJ (and Princess).

[024]

most of the low quality posts have occurred in the nba forum due to the amount of trolls there. the spurs forum itself i think is fine. aside from the panic threads popping up after every lost, it's been pretty civil.

[HarlemHeat37]

I agree..I don't really mind the NBA forum shit either, I don't know what the big deal is..a lot of people seem to be complaining though..

[George Gervin's Afro]

As the Spurs journey through their 13th consecutive season as an elite team in the NBA, it's undeniable that SpursTalk.com has failed to remain elite in the beginning of the 2009-2010 NBA season. For a myriad of reasons, the quality-to-noise ratio has been at an unacceptably low level. I take partial responsibility, as life issues indefinitely suspended my participation on the forums. But now I hope to help nudge SpursTalk.com into the correct direction so that it can regain its rightful position.

In addition to raising my posting level, I'll also make it a point to author three features for each game: Keys to Victory, Initial Reaction and Game Thoughts. Kori Ellis has a yet to be revealed feature that will definitely raise the bar.

How can you help? Kori Ellis and I have a long list of feature ideas that can add to the quality of SpursTalk.com ... if we can only locate the necessary help. If you are willing to help, we will be grateful. No matter if you only have time for a one and done feature that involves minimal basketball knowledge or you want to tackle a larger project, we can work together to figure it out. If you are interested, please send me a PM. Thank you in advance for your consideration.

In addition to features, overall posting quality will be held up to a slightly higher standard. The freedom SpursTalk.com offers won't be altered, however we do ask that you take more time when it comes to starting threads and expressing your vulgar thoughts and emotions. A poster who gets multiple threads merged due not giving common courtesy to the very simple rules when it comes to starting threads will now automatically lose their ability to start threads for period of a month. Extreme and unnecessary vulgarity will also come under scrutiny. We can live with 99% of the vulgarity but the over the line potshots will result in a warning to help serve as a reminder that the bar has indeed been raised.

Even if you believe that nothing above applies to you, I simply ask that you make a small effort to improve your contribution level. If we all take a little step, the result will be a large improvement.

In the long history of SpursTalk.com, only a few generations have been granted the role of defending greatness in its hour of maximum danger. I do not shrink from this responsibility -- I welcome it. I do not believe that any of us would exchange places with any other fans or any other generation. The energy, the faith, the devotion which we bring to this team will light our forum and all who read it -- and the glow from that fire can truly light the path to back to greatness.

And so, my fellow SpursTalk.com brethren: Ask not what your forum can do for you -- ask what you can do for your forum.


:tu

[Chieflion]

Duncan will play no matter what the rice people do! :)

A mild example of racism on this board. There may be more examples but things like this should not be tolerated.

[Warlord23]

Great idea, timvp. Having been on these forums for over 5 years, I found myself posting lesser as time went on, and slowly but steadily moving away from the Spurs section, first to the NBA section and finally from there to the NFL section.

If we can try, as a community, to avoid trolling/responding to trolls, stop the juvenile namecalling, and focus on quality rather than quantity of posts, I believe it will make a huge difference. Also, If timvp, Marcus Bryant, Solid D and the other old-timers start making regular contributions, we'll turn this thing around yet.

[ForeignFan]

I am not a regular poster, though I have been around for a few years now, but I will try to help (even if only by refraining to comment on stupid threads).

[TheProfessor]

The gauntlet has been thrown down.

I would like to see the "Think Tank" get active again, though that seems to be more of an off-season deal. But it would be nice to get people looking at and discussing prospects in college and overseas.

[PM5K]

Awesome!

http://www.popculturemadness.com/interview/pics/Raising-The-Bar.jpg

[J.T.]

Great thread. I think yous guys should let me and samikeyp do some things for the NFL forum. He'd make a good Biden to my Obama. I can have that place more popular than The Club before Super Bowl Sunday.

[Flux451]

Good timing. I have noticed that since Timvp has been posting more, some of the juggernauts have come out to play. THnks!!

[Bukefal]

Who are all the active mods on ST? And how many mods are their in total?

Kori, Timvp, Slomo....?

[Kori Ellis]

Who are all the active mods on ST? And how many mods are their in total?

Kori, Timvp, Slomo....?

Slomo isn't a mod. He's an admin on the tech side maintaining our servers (though he would moderate in an emergency) along with Muki.

It's just timvp and I. Then there are certain mods in specific forums (College Sports Forum, MMA Forum).. those are listed on the bottoms of those forums.

[Mavs<Spurs]

My pm to timvp -

(and I gave my email )

I hope that you are doing well.

If I can help, please let me know.

My name is Robert. I am in the category of fan but not expert on basketball.

But I am willing to do what I can.

sincerely

mavs less than Spurs

:flag:

[Mavs<Spurs]

Slomo isn't a mod. He's an admin on the tech side maintaining our servers (though he would moderate in an emergency) along with Muki.

It's just timvp and I. Then there are certain mods in specific forums (College Sports Forum, MMA Forum).. those are listed on the bottoms of those forums.

Allow me to say thank you to you and timvp for running and maintaining this site. Thank you !

I hope that timvp is well !

robert

[Bukefal]

Slomo isn't a mod. He's an admin on the tech side maintaining our servers (though he would moderate in an emergency) along with Muki.

It's just timvp and I. Then there are certain mods in specific forums (College Sports Forum, MMA Forum).. those are listed on the bottoms of those forums.

Aha I see. just curious. Thanks. :toast

[Thompson]

Give me the phenomenal cosmic power of moderation, I promise I won't let it go to my head. Peasants.

[Summers]

Give me the phenomenal cosmic power of moderation, I promise I won't let it go to my head. Peasants.

I think they prefer to be called "common folk".

[ashbeeigh]

Way to go y'all. I usually lurk in the sports forums since many of the things I'm thinking get said pretty quickly, or as I am thinking them. Maybe you all type like 100 wpm as opposed to my 60 wpm or something. But things have derailed a bit so I've found myself shying away from even the Spurs forum on any day except game nights.

I will gladly step up my game, raise the bar, contribute, etc. in any way either of you two need me to.

[SequSpur]

Totally agree...not just raising the bar...call a spade a fucking spade.. Look, the championships were great but that shit was in the past. Turn the page already... watch a game, go to a game whatever..quit living off of buck harvey, andy everett, charlie parker and jay howard...4 of the biggest popodouches ever...

there is so much wrong with this shitty team, that you all can at least talk about something...i mean come on!!!!

GTG, next wednesday.. I will be there...name a place... chuckie cheese for all of you kids? or Buffalo Southwest Cafe? or Fast Eddies? Wherever...let's do it...

[tlongII]

If you need me to start more threads in the Spurs Forum I'll be happy to oblige. I'm all about raising the bar. And Quality. And all that stuff...

[Lars]

Wanting to buy red colored name, willing to exchange quality posting, adopting Spurs as my 2nd favorite team or a 1991 Chrsyler Lebaron.

[biba]

Great news. I'm sure many were waiting for something to happen. :toast

By the way: do you know what happenend to Duncan228. No news... She and her contributions are missed.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Word... The old timers have your back, LJ (and Princess).

...to your mutha! I'm in too - let me know what I can do and I'll do it.

Can I also mention that I think the DLs need some work too - they've both become very quiet and slow. I'm trying to think of ways to make them more exciting like they were 2 years ago but failing miserably. How can we get people active and interactive again?

[Bukefal]

Great news. I'm sure many were waiting for something to happen. :toast

By the way: do you know what happenend to Duncan228. No news... She and her contributions are missed.

Yeah, where has she been lately? I miss the news threads.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Great news. I'm sure many were waiting for something to happen. :toast

By the way: do you know what happenend to Duncan228. No news... She and her contributions are missed.

True. I hope she's just on holiday and that nothing serious is wrong.

[Fabbs]

Then there are certain mods in specific forums (College Sports Forum, MMA Forum).. those are listed on the bottoms of those forums.

Where? Give an example por favor.

[Bukefal]

Where? Give an example por favor.

Well, go to the college forum and look at the right corner, below at the end of the page.

[Fabbs]

Well, go to the college forum and look at the right corner, below at the end of the page.
"Moderators", great.
I do not see that for any other forum.

[Kori Ellis]

"Moderators", great.
I do not see that for any other forum.

There are only moderators in a couple forums... College Forum, MMA Forum, International Forum.. I think that's it.

[Marcus Bryant]

I apologize and will post more as well. It would make sense to actually discuss Spurs Basketball at SpursTalk.com, after all.

[lefty]

There are only moderators in a couple forums... College Forum, MMA Forum, International Forum.. I think that's it.

I would like to moderate the Other Sports forum, as I'm a regular there.


Although I don't think it requires much moderation

[Fat boy]

I would like to moderate the Other Sports forum,

And I would love to someday see my dick but it ain't happening!
I knew once this site got a weight watchers forum shit was going to change!

[Blue Jew]

Dam five pages when you could have just PM'd SequSpur and told him to stop posting?

[Sense]

Dam five pages when you could have just PM'd SequSpur and told him to stop posting?

:lol

Nice one mouse?
I don't really see how you would need our help, but I'm willing to... I admit I have been coming less and less to Spurstalk because of the new people their threads and their posts.

hopefully something changes, I hate to think I'm missing out on great information because the lame threads shadow the decent ones.

[Blue Jew]

If you want a party with only 5 people then you invite your close friends you already know how they are going to behave. But if you want to break some sort of record then you have free beer and invite the whole town. Since ST started to get big many of the original five started to feel insulted as the new guests drank all the beer and pissed anywhere they please and destroyed the TV and ate all the hot wings and are now are tossing the furniture at each other after every loss.

That is when you have a separate private party aka (Forum) called VIP fans. only those with an invite can post there as they talk about stats and real issues that concerns the Spurs. Don't worry about bandwidth you can shut down the TRoll forum it's not like anyone post there anymore.

my 2 cents! :toast

[spurschick]

I admit that I have been absent for quite some time due somewhat in part to life interruptions, but also due to what is being dubbed "low quality" postings. I miss the forum of old for sure.

[Stringer_Bell]

I'm always willing to cheer on those willing to help out. :toast

Now let's get at those features and raise the bar (Mark-Paul Gosselaar style!).

[EricB]

I admit that I have been absent for quite some time due somewhat in part to life interruptions, but also due to what is being dubbed "low quality" postings. I miss the forum of old for sure.


yeah were seemingly the old guard haha :)

[the bear]

Cool man. This forum is great, and I'm always down to give in input/advice. :king

[MI21]

Sweet.

Higher quality basketball talk means more posting, and more learning for me personally.

Count me in :tu

[Brazil]

Dam five pages when you could have just PM'd SequSpur and told him to stop posting?

worng timing since few days Sequ is also raising the bar

[lefty]

worng timing since few days Sequ is also raising the bar
I'm not sure what that means in Sequ's case.

Is he in SuperSequ mode now?

Ranting and all that stuff?

[I. Hustle]

I'll do my part and not start the thread I was going to start.

Raising my Bar; Help Wanted!

[kace]

One thing i would like to do more often here on ST is Polls' threads.

I think it could be interesting since there are always some few posters very very active on specific topics and that hides the overall opinion on ST.

Still, often, i don't dare to start these threads cause i'm not sure it could interest people.

[Brazil]

I'm not sure what that means in Sequ's case.

Is he in SuperSequ mode now?

Ranting and all that stuff?

I mean he is posting bb stuff with arguments not just fuck suck you're all stupid

[lefty]

I mean he is posting bb stuff with arguments not just fuck suck you're all stupid
Then I'm seriously worried about him

[urunobili]

I have a contribution idea:

Can you have a "like or dislike" Facebook like option for the posts?

Sometimes I find myself quoting to give a thumbs up on something really well written and the opposite when something is wrong... It'd clean some of the junk if we had this option...

Just a thought...

[urunobili]

another Idea:

Annual awards for:

Thread of the year
Post of the year
Poster of the year (ST MVP)
Troll of the year
Funniest Thread
Rookie of the year
Photoshop work of the year

winner could get like an annual badge/ trophy under their user names

[CubanMustGo]

I have a contribution idea:

Can you have a "like or dislike" Facebook like option for the posts?

Sometimes I find myself quoting to give a thumbs up on something really well written and the opposite when something is wrong... It'd clean some of the junk if we had this option...

Just a thought...

If you could combine this with the 'reputation' score for posters that some boards have - then you could say 'ignore anyone with a reputation under -100' (or make that the board default setting) and use that to deal with the idiots.

[polandprzem]

another Idea:

Annual awards for:

Thread of the year
Post of the year
Poster of the year (ST MVP)
Troll of the year
Funniest Thread
Rookie of the year
Photoshop work of the year

winner could get like an annual badge/ trophy under their user names

few years ago I went with that idea, and 'they' told me DO WHAT YOU WANT :rolleyes


ps. There is nothing from the list for me I guess. The bar is too high :)

[phxspurfan]

Well done! I have definitely noticed the quality posters (and postings) increase lately. It's good to see some brains back in the forum. I continue to enjoy coming here and offering my "Trade Manu for _" shtick once in awhile...

And I still hope to see Sefolosha in a Spurs uni someday!

GSG

[ClingingMars]

Spurs are certainly doing their part.

[ashbeeigh]

If you could combine this with the 'reputation' score for posters that some boards have - then you could say 'ignore anyone with a reputation under -100' (or make that the board default setting) and use that to deal with the idiots.

I find myself wanting to "rep" people all the time. But, then I remember I can't do that here.

[Kori Ellis]

I think too many people would abuse the "rep" function here. It's easy to add it, but I have always thought it would be a SpursTalk disaster.

[SpurOutofTownFan]

Haven't been to the forum in some time or sporadically but this seems like the right thing to do. There are some elements posting here that have abused this forum for far too long.

[angel_luv]

I admit that I have been absent for quite some time due somewhat in part to life interruptions, but also due to what is being dubbed "low quality" postings. I miss the forum of old for sure.

Great to see you back! :)

[Danny.Zhu]

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[Brodels]

Awesome. It's time to kick it up a notch.

I'm not around here as much as I used to be, but it there is anything I can do to help, let me know.

[PublicOption]

manu 2 pts.....................WTF thats the game.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

I'd just like to say that I've noticed the bar being raised already - better quality game threads, better threads in general, better discussion, and of course Kori and timvp's new features, which are fantastic. Keep it up, good people! :toast

[MI21]

I don't like the idea of the rep system, at all. The idea of a like function, similar to Facebook would be a really good one. I often find myself agreeing with something or enjoying a post but I simply do not want to waste space and time by quoting it and then positing "Agree" or a thumbs up.


I am willing to bet your inbox is probably coming close to around 500 messages, but I sent you a PM a few days ago Timvp. I don't think I'll provide many insider tid-bits, but I'm sure you guys can put me to work.

Same here.

[MI21]

I don't like the idea of the rep system, at all. The idea of a like function, similar to Facebook would be a really good one. I often find myself agreeing with something or enjoying a post but I simply do not want to waste space and time by quoting it and then positing "Agree" or a thumbs up.


I am willing to bet your inbox is probably coming close to around 500 messages, but I sent you a PM a few days ago Timvp. I don't think I'll provide many insider tid-bits, but I'm sure you guys can put me to work.

Same here.

[SpurYank]

I come in and out on these forums, depending on the "current themes," intelligent input, reactions, humor (there have been some posts that had me laughing on the floor). I loved the descriptive narratives that Laker, Sun, Rocket, and Maverick fans offer (well, at times, when they aren't being nasty). Like another fan said, I have learned a lot about basketball simply from reading reflections and reactions from all of you, and especially from timvp.

When there is time, and probably best between seasons, like in the middle of summer, we should run a poll to see who goes back the farthest as a Spurs fan. I was living there in S.A. when the Houston Rockets played a few of their games there. Once, there were so many S.A. fans rooting for the Lakers during a Rockets/Lakers game that the owner of the Rockets threatened to not come back for any more games. Fortunately, there were people like Red McCombs and others who jumped at the opportunity to save the Dallas Chapparrals and make them the S.A. Spurs and brought them to town. The year must have been 1972. Tom Nissalke was the Spurs' first coach. My season tickets (5 of them because I took my 4 kids) were under $10 each. The site was the old Arena. And I'm still flying down there to watch them play a couple of times a year.

Beat that, if you can.

[HoopsCzar]

I think too many people would abuse the "rep" function here. It's easy to add it, but I have always thought it would be a SpursTalk disaster.

They would Kori,..

That kind of " Badge " system never serves forums well unless it's based within a thread thumbs up or thumbs down system determined by interests of fellow community members and readers.

See regardless to ones tenure or fan allegiance true viewers learn who's who and what's what almost instantaneously. It's in regards to discovering who's thoughts and perspectives they enjoy reading based upon a poster establishing and the viewers discovering who knows their stuff pretty quick,..can't fool em and it's emphatically indisputable.

Yet contributing isn't a poster evaluation contest of Superiority -vs- Inferiority thing trying to top one another. Because the game is larger than one thought and a forum thrives on diversity so all contributors can be community assets. But there will be detectably distinct differences between those whom provide more insight and accuracy of game grasp than per say another and or others,..that only creates balance that's devoid of boredom.

So any adding of a static display " rep " feature that can be a misleading icon of identity. Solely obtained for mass spamming is merely a platform for providing an insecurity badge for the volume shooting board buffoons,.. expertise is identified by grasp, depth and non bias accuracy.


http://www.hispoint.net/Portals/0/basketball_hoop.jpg

[HoopsCzar]

another Idea:

Annual awards for:

Thread of the year
Post of the year
Poster of the year (ST MVP)
Troll of the year
Funniest Thread
Rookie of the year
Photoshop work of the year

winner could get like an annual badge/ trophy under their user names

That sounds like what fans can find fun,..

[CrazyOne]

I disappear for a year and it all goes to heck in a handbasket... :nope:nope

sorry, my bad.

:flag::flag::flag:

[timvp]

I'll get back to everyone this weekend. Sorry for the delay.


Oh and if you posted in this thread that you want to contribute but didn't PM, please go ahead and PM me so I don't have to crosscheck the thread with my PM box.

[MookieCrew]

oh boy!

[Libri]

I will also help and try to post more insightful comments.

[I am Tom]

Don't you need a bar first before you can raise it?

[timvp]

I have begun the process of PMing everyone back. If you PMed me, you should have a response by the end of the day. Sorry for the delay.

[urunobili]

I have begun the process of PMing everyone back. If you PMed me, you should have a response by the end of the day. Sorry for the delay.

:tu

[timvp]

Alright, I finished PMing everyone back. If you didn't get a PM response, that means I didn't get it. Tomorrow I'll tackle sending responses to the responses :lol

[kace]

i also think that it could be a good idea to have some "official" threads about usual topics.

i mean a topic for each player, a topic for Pop's coaching, a topic for defense, one for offense etc etc.

Sometimes that's a little bit the way it is with some threads about a player used/bumped to add something about him, but in many french sports forums you see that more clearly and as a rule.

by example, you can have a Mason thread which will be used to talk about his performance till the thread is clearly too long/old or till a really new event happens to this player (big injury / trade....). In that case a new "official" thread will be open and used.

If you want to say what you want about Mason play, you'll use the "official" topic.

If you think a specific thread would be interesting to talk about how Mason and Tony play well together, you can always make one.

I think that could make things very much clear and doesn't prevent a poster to start a new thread for any other topic he wants to talk about. that will also avoid having 10 threads about a player after a good or bad performance where his "official" thread would have been enough to post comments about that.

that's the way the Think Tank has been made about Trade/prospects, and that really made the discussion better IMO.

[Al Koholik]

Shit this thread disappointed. I completely *hic* misunderstood.

[Old School 44]

Thanks for providing this excellent forum. I love coming here as my one-stop-shop to read everything Spurs. Special props to Duncan228. I don't know how she finds the time to do what she does!

Just wondering if you ever considered putting in a fixed location (maybe top right), a Next Game box, something similar to what's on the MySA spurs page. The info can have the next opponent, the tv/radio schedule. Maybe you can even include a previous and next scroller to show past games with the box score and future opponents.

Just a thought.
Thanks again! Back to my coffee and the forum!

[duncan228]

I love coming here as my one-stop-shop to read everything Spurs. Special props to Duncan228. I don't know how she finds the time to do what she does!

Thanks. :)

I try to bring the news and things I hope will spark conversation. There are lots of folks who can't surf for various reasons, or who don't have the time to. Helping SpursTalk to be a one-stop-shop for everything Spurs is my part of the bar.

[skinsfan1]

pm sent

[lotr1trekkie]

Some posters like to dominate the posts and call it wisdom. I don't think so.

[j-money24]

The Lakers are better off with LO starting instead of the overrated Bynum

[HoopsCzar]

i also think that it could be a good idea to have some "official" threads about usual topics.

i mean a topic for each player, a topic for Pop's coaching, a topic for defense, one for offense etc etc.

Sometimes that's a little bit the way it is with some threads about a player used/bumped to add something about him, but in many french sports forums you see that more clearly and as a rule.

by example, you can have a Mason thread which will be used to talk about his performance till the thread is clearly too long/old or till a really new event happens to this player (big injury / trade....). In that case a new "official" thread will be open and used.

If you want to say what you want about Mason play, you'll use the "official" topic.

If you think a specific thread would be interesting to talk about how Mason and Tony play well together, you can always make one.

I think that could make things very much clear and doesn't prevent a poster to start a new thread for any other topic he wants to talk about. that will also avoid having 10 threads about a player after a good or bad performance where his "official" thread would have been enough to post comments about that.

that's the way the Think Tank has been made about Trade/prospects, and that really made the discussion better IMO.


I disagree,..

It's widely known that variety and independence is what stimulates interesting discussion. Where unlike " Official " threads which fastly become a myriad of scattered views that's likened to a disjointed chat room print.

It's a failed practice of boards here in the U.S. and if it's that common / protocol in France. Then that's an international flaw they should re-think and abandon.

See where when channeling all perspectives on a given player, coach, game or what have. In an " Official " thread posters have no choice but to become adjoined in a participating in jumbled junket of who says what hodgepodge,..a mess.

The lest interesting forums and boards practice that and it seals their lack of appeal or interest. Because people whom are seeking independent thoughts enjoy specific takes and specific posters. Thus in the pursuit they're certainly not so enamored by taking a part in an ongoing from sublime to subliminal saga of sudoku in scrabble form.

Thus you'll find the greater degree of subject enthusiasts don't take kindly to hunting those nuggets of agreement or disagreement with thoughts buried within a heap of mass who-ha.

The mass success of a forum comes down to whom you can attract to partake in any given forum discussion. Where in forcing posters and or viewers to find difficulty in finding those of depth and substance in " Official " threads is counter productive to the process of interest.

That's why all the better forums provides the feature of being allowing members to opt to be notified when specific posters contribute,..and that's a feature that simplifies their pursuit of their interest.

[Chieflion]

Maybe there should be a poll for a weekly mod every week to keep things interesting.

[HoopsCzar]

Maybe there should be a poll for a weekly mod every week to keep things interesting.

What would that do?,..

I mean why pressure the Mods?,..See like the site owner collectively in regards to the nuts and bolts they do enough already. The support has to come from fellow members to express sound and solid perspectives to contribute to quality discussions.

See in sports just like there's wins and loses not all perspectives are going to be positive and to bear merit and accuracy they can't be Homer driven. Where for the most part Mods are geared to be pro positive about everything the team does and some truths they're not inclined to touch upon,..but yet those " ugly " truths have to be discussed if the team is going to improve.

See nobody likes to see their team losing and win or lose not everybody likes to hear the " Hardline " facts about what their team needs to improve either. Because speaking in depth about changes brings into focus that the team in present state isn't good enough to win and or somebody's not fulfilling their role.

Where in the rah-rah mentality of sports nobody likes to accept unless changes are made their team isn't in it to win it. But just like Homer-ism has never won a championship trying to disprove the hardline realities of improvement is a challenge fans can take shots at,..take your shot and don't expect Mod's to do everything by position.

[Chieflion]

What would that do?,..

I mean why pressure the Mods?,..See like the site owner collectively in regards to the nuts and bolts they do enough already. The support has to come from fellow members to express sound and solid perspectives to contribute to quality discussions.

See in sports just like there's wins and loses not all perspectives are going to be positive and to bear merit and accuracy they can't be Homer driven. Where for the most part Mods are geared to be pro positive about everything the team does and some truths they're not inclined to touch upon,..but yet those " ugly " truths have to be discussed if the team is going to improve.

See nobody likes to see their team losing and win or lose not everybody likes to hear the " Hardline " facts about what their team needs to improve either. Because speaking in depth about changes brings into focus that the team in present state isn't good enough to win and or somebody's not fulfilling their role.

Where in the rah-rah mentality of sports nobody likes to accept unless changes are made their team isn't in it to win it. But just like Homer-ism has never won a championship trying to disprove the hardline realities of improvement is a challenge fans can take shots at,..take your shot and don't expect Mod's to do everything by position.
What are you saying? I said to keep things interesting. Not to pressure the mods. This would help posters know that mods have their responsibility and it is tough to be a mod. :lol

[z0sa]

The Spurs should RTB

[word]

Anyone who can't express opinions about basketball without vulgarities and excessive profanity is a fucking moron.



:lol

[SpurNation]

Raising the Bar; Help Wanted

I would bet the Spurs are saying the same thing right about now.

[marini martini]

What are you saying? I said to keep things interesting. Not to pressure the mods. This would help posters know that mods have their responsibility and it is tough to be a mod. :lol

What mods???:lol

[Chieflion]

What mods???:lol
Don't tell anyone, but the mod who went to meltdown on the NBA forum after the Spurs lost to the Lakers.