View Full Version : Pac Man-Mayweather fight is off!
SAtoDallas
01-07-2010, 09:04 AM
By Steve Kim (On Twitter)
Bob Arum confirmed to Maxboxing.com around 9 p.m. that the proposed bout between Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather is off. All the veteran promoter could really say is,"Floyd backed out of the fight."
This fight was to have taken place on March 13th in Las Vegas.
One source says that while Pacquiao’s team was willing to have blood drawn up until 24 days before the fight( like he did prior to his fight with Ricky Hatton), Mayweather wanted testing to take place all the way till the fight.
BacktoBasics
01-07-2010, 09:41 AM
Its real simple. Pac agreed to the extra testing within reason. He also agreed to the compromised deal put forth by the mediator. Mayweather refused. There's no reason for Floyd to change the protocol for this fight but at least Manny was willing to compromise.
I'm done appreciating Floyd Mayweather. I'll never buy a PPV of his again. Unless its the Manny fight.
I. Hustle
01-07-2010, 09:47 AM
Floyd is a bitch. Testing after the fight should be sufficient.
nkdlunch
01-07-2010, 10:01 AM
Mayweather being the bitch he is supposed to be. no surprises here
BacktoBasics
01-07-2010, 10:19 AM
Floyd is a bitch. Testing after the fight should be sufficient.No shit. Dude will give blood (not piss) in the locker room immediately after the fight. That is more than enough.
DBryant88
01-07-2010, 11:29 AM
:hang
TheMACHINE
01-07-2010, 11:38 AM
Floyd Mayweather Jr.'s avoid these welterweights at all costs list:
[x] Shane Mosley
[x] Antonio Margarito
[x] Andre Berto
[x] Paul Williams - thank goodness he's gained weight
[x] Miguel Cotto
[x] Joshua Clottey
[x] Manny Pacquiao - [x] start steroid scandal
To do list:
[ ] Call Matthew Hatton
[ ] Ask Juan Manuel Marquez if he wants a rematch
[ ] Retire undefeated
TheMACHINE
01-07-2010, 11:39 AM
24 days before and immediately after the fight is more than enough to meet the demands. PBF just bitched out of another fight.
Sancha
01-07-2010, 11:48 AM
24 days before and immediately after the fight is more than enough to meet the demands. PBF just bitched out of another fight.
Exactly. LIke I stated earlier, Manny has agreed to compromise to everything that was set before him. Mayweather knows that if he were to go up against a fighter like Manny his 0 would be gone.
DBryant88
01-07-2010, 11:49 AM
Floyd Mayweather Jr.'s avoid these welterweights at all costs list:
[x] Shane Mosley
[x] Antonio Margarito
[x] Andre Berto
[x] Paul Williams - thank goodness he's gained weight
[x] Miguel Cotto
[x] Joshua Clottey
[x] Manny Pacquiao - [x] start steroid scandal
To do list:
[ ] Call Matthew Hatton
[ ] Ask Juan Manuel Marquez if he wants a rematch
[ ] Retire undefeated
:lmao
TheGodfather
01-07-2010, 01:02 PM
Everybody loses in this deal (especially boxing fans), and I blame Gayweather. The word was he was a chickenshit pussy who would rather stay undefeated than fight anybody who could beat him, and this confirms it. Larry Merchant was right.
"Again, from things that he's said in the past, to him, losing is worse than death because he's wrapped his identity up so much in the idea of not losing the fight. He's used that to try to deflect all of the criticism that has come his way from the boxing world and in the boxing media that he has avoided all of the real top welterweights to fight smaller guys. Being undefeated is so important to him, that maybe there's a part of this that expresses or reflects his concern."
http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=24463
TheMACHINE
01-07-2010, 03:03 PM
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dbreiden83080
01-07-2010, 03:25 PM
I was on Floyd side but not anymore. If he didn't want the fight, it makes no sense why he even entered negotiations to begin with. The deal was set and then all this. Just annoying and fuckin stupid..
HarlemHeat37
01-07-2010, 07:46 PM
LOL @ people taking Bob Arum's word..LOL @ people blaming Money, what a surprise..
Hopefully Pacquio's HGH use is revealed at some point..
Rip-Hamilton32
01-07-2010, 07:48 PM
PBF wants nothing to do with Manny but can you blame him? Pac would have run through Floyd
redzero
01-07-2010, 07:49 PM
Mayweather is undefeated. He has nothing to fear from Pacquaio.
Manny does roids and doesn't want to be caught. An innocent man has nothing to fear, so he should just agree to whatever terms the other camp wants.
Rip-Hamilton32
01-07-2010, 08:05 PM
Mayweather being undeafted is the exact reason he wants no part of Manny he knows its a huge risk
Cry Havoc
01-07-2010, 08:47 PM
Mayweather is a pussy.
dbreiden83080
01-07-2010, 09:30 PM
Irate Mayweather blaming Pacquiao
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=4806180
"A day after their fight was declared dead, Floyd Mayweather Jr. said Thursday night that he still wants to fight Manny Pacquiao.
Their tentative March 13 megafight -- which many believe will be the most lucrative fight in boxing history if it happens -- was called off Wednesday night by Top Rank's Bob Arum, Pacquiao's promoter, after mediation failed to resolve their issues over drug testing protocol.
Arum blamed Mayweather for the fight falling apart, but Mayweather came out swinging on Thursday.
“
In my opinion it is Manny Pacquiao and his team who are denying the people a chance to see the biggest fight ever. I know the people will see through their smoke screens and lies. I am ready to fight and sign the contract. Manny needs to stop making his excuses, step up and fight.
”
-- Floyd Mayweather
"Throughout this whole process I have remained patient but at this point I am thoroughly disgusted that Pacquiao and his representatives are trying to blame me for the fight not happening when clearly the blame is on them," Mayweather said in a statement.
"First and foremost, not only do I want to fight Manny Pacquiao, I want to whip his punk ass."
The final issue in the negotiation was drug testing.
They agreed to unlimited random urine testing, but Mayweather also insisted on random blood testing, even though the Nevada State Athletic Commission, which would oversee the bout at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, requires only urine testing.
Pacquiao (50-3-2, 38 KOs) didn't want blood testing but later relented and agreed to three blood tests: one during the week of the kickoff news conference, which would have taken place next week, one random test to be conducted no later than 30 days before the fight and a final test in his dressing room after the fight. Mayweather (40-0, 25 KOs) would be subject to the same testing procedures.
When they could not come to an agreement, Top Rank and Golden Boy Promotions, which represents Mayweather, turned to a mediator, retired judge Daniel Weinstein, who had successfully mediated a series of disputes between Top Rank and Golden Boy in 2007.
But after nine hours in mediation on Tuesday in Santa Monica, Calif., and further attempts to come to a resolution on Wednesday failed, the fight was pronounced dead by the Pacquiao camp.
The mediation was largely about coming up with a suitable time frame in which to cut off the testing before the fight. Pacquiao moved off his hard-line stance of no testing inside 30 days from the fight by agreeing to 24 days during mediation.
"We agreed to move the drug testing to 24 days under the supervision of the Nevada commission and Mayweather still wouldn't budge," Michael Koncz, Pacquiao's adviser, told ESPN.com from the Philippines on Wednesday night after the fight was declared dead.
The Pacquiao camp blamed Mayweather for his unwillingness to move off his desire for random testing until the fight.
Mayweather disputed that on Thursday.
"Before the mediation, my team proposed a 14-day, no blood testing window leading up to the fight. But it was rejected," Mayweather said. "I am still proposing the 14-day window but he is still unwilling to agree to it, even though this is obviously a fair compromise on my part as I wanted the testing to be up until the fight and he wanted a 30 day cutoff. The truth is he just doesn't want to take the tests.
"In my opinion it is Manny Pacquiao and his team who are denying the people a chance to see the biggest fight ever. I know the people will see through their smoke screens and lies. I am ready to fight and sign the contract. Manny needs to stop making his excuses, step up and fight."
The drug testing became a major issue when Floyd Mayweather Sr., the father of the fighter, made several public remarks accusing Pacquiao of using performance-enhancing drugs without a shred of proof. Mayweather Jr. later made similar remarks about him using PEDs, even though Pacquiao denies it and has never failed a drug test.
The accusations led Pacquiao to file a defamation lawsuit last week in Nevada U.S. District Court against Mayweather Jr., Mayweather Sr., Roger Mayweather, Mayweather Promotions and Golden Boy officials Richard Schaefer and Oscar De La Hoya.
If the welterweight title bout is to be saved, and go forward on March 13, the camps likely have until Friday or Saturday to work things out and kick off the promotion as planned early next week in New York."
Maybe there is still hope..
Rip-Hamilton32
01-07-2010, 10:16 PM
PBF sure knows how to talk. But i would love to see Manny shut him up i hope this happens
dbreiden83080
01-07-2010, 10:29 PM
Seems like there is 2 days to get this fixed and still fight on March 13
TheMACHINE
01-07-2010, 11:06 PM
Holy Cow!....Manny is going to fight Joshua Clottey on March 13. Thats high risk, low rewards...but i guess its better than picking some lightweight.
dbreiden83080
01-07-2010, 11:09 PM
Holy Cow!....Manny is going to fight Joshua Clottey on March 13. Thats high risk, low rewards...but i guess its better than picking some lightweight.
i doubt anything is signed yet, they still have 2 days left to get this deal done..
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01-07-2010, 11:33 PM
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Yogurt210
01-08-2010, 07:21 AM
I had huge respect for Manny.
Now in my eyes, he is hiding something.
He needs to step up and take all the necessary test for a huge mega-fight like this.
EXTRA precautions are neccesary for a fight that will go down in history.
I would hate to watch this fight, somebody whip the other guys ass, and ended up using roids.
it has to be legit and fair as possible and I do not blame Mayweather one bit.
He is not a pussy, He will fight....Just Manny is indeed hiding something.
redzero
01-08-2010, 08:37 AM
I had huge respect for Manny.
Now in my eyes, he is hiding something.
He needs to step up and take all the necessary test for a huge mega-fight like this.
EXTRA precautions are neccesary for a fight that will go down in history.
I would hate to watch this fight, somebody whip the other guys ass, and ended up using roids.
it has to be legit and fair as possible and I do not blame Mayweather one bit.
He is not a pussy, He will fight....Just Manny is indeed hiding something.
I know.
None of you find it odd that Manny was so intent on not being tested for drugs?
dbreiden83080
01-08-2010, 12:25 PM
I had huge respect for Manny.
Now in my eyes, he is hiding something.
He needs to step up and take all the necessary test for a huge mega-fight like this.
EXTRA precautions are neccesary for a fight that will go down in history.
I would hate to watch this fight, somebody whip the other guys ass, and ended up using roids.
it has to be legit and fair as possible and I do not blame Mayweather one bit.
He is not a pussy, He will fight....Just Manny is indeed hiding something.
I was on Floyd's side, i like Floyd even though he jams his foot in his mouth so often. But i don't get why he didn't agree with what the mediator came up with?? Dan Rafael said Manny agreed to testing 24 days, out and on the night of the fight, so if that's the case then WTF?? Floyd says he wants 14 days out, so because of 10 days difference, he won't sign the deal.. It's incredibly fuckin stupid..
Cry Havoc
01-08-2010, 12:34 PM
I had huge respect for Manny.
Now in my eyes, he is hiding something.
He needs to step up and take all the necessary test for a huge mega-fight like this.
EXTRA precautions are neccesary for a fight that will go down in history.
I would hate to watch this fight, somebody whip the other guys ass, and ended up using roids.
it has to be legit and fair as possible and I do not blame Mayweather one bit.
He is not a pussy, He will fight....Just Manny is indeed hiding something.
I know.
None of you find it odd that Manny was so intent on not being tested for drugs?
Do you guys know how to read?
I mean, seriously. Words on a page. Do you actually ever read them?
TheMACHINE
01-08-2010, 12:36 PM
I had huge respect for Manny.
Now in my eyes, he is hiding something.
He needs to step up and take all the necessary test for a huge mega-fight like this.
EXTRA precautions are neccesary for a fight that will go down in history.
I would hate to watch this fight, somebody whip the other guys ass, and ended up using roids.
it has to be legit and fair as possible and I do not blame Mayweather one bit.
He is not a pussy, He will fight....Just Manny is indeed hiding something.
I know.
None of you find it odd that Manny was so intent on not being tested for drugs?
Damn...reading comprehension FTL. :rolleyes
I. Hustle
01-08-2010, 12:40 PM
Manny sucks. Why is he so afraid of being tested. He must be guilty. He has to be roided up or else he wouldn't be so scared of taking a drug test. PBF FTW
Ginobilly
01-08-2010, 01:03 PM
Are you Mayweather fanboys really that stupid? What's the difference between being tested 30/24/14 days before, then right after the fight? No, Mayweather wants this and that, a blood test during the fight, etc. What's his next stipulation? A semen sample the day before the fight? This is getting ridiculous. 24/30 days before the fight, then right after is more than good enough. HGH, Steriods will stay in your system: 40 to 50 days after juicing There is no way for Manny to cheat around this and mayweather knows this. He's just doing all this shit to get under manny's skin and get him to fight on his terms alone.
I. Hustle
01-08-2010, 01:07 PM
I just hate how Manny won't man up and just take the test. What a freakin coward.
TheMACHINE
01-08-2010, 01:09 PM
I just hate how Manny won't man up and just take the test. What a freakin coward.
sarcasm isnt your strong suit buddy...lol
Ginobilly
01-08-2010, 01:11 PM
Mayweather is just being a pussy, and you'll fanboys look like idiots trying to protect moneys image. Right now, there is no way to mask HGH use by way of a blood screen. Manny would need at least about a month a half to get clean if he indeed were juicing. There is no way around to cheat if your getting tested right after the fight. Your going to get caught! Gayweather is just being a cowardly fag!
I. Hustle
01-08-2010, 01:13 PM
If Manny was half the man that Money May is then he would drug test no problem. He is scared of being another notch on Money's belt.
Ginobilly
01-08-2010, 01:20 PM
I just hate how Manny won't man up and just take the test. What a freakin coward.
What test?? HGH/steriods are not like coke or heroin where it will stay only in your system for a few days. It will stay in your system for weeks after you discontinue use. If Manny is indeed juicing, he will get busted.
Ginobilly
01-08-2010, 01:24 PM
If Manny was half the man that Money May is then he would drug test no problem. He is scared of being another notch on Money's belt.
Pacquiao’s adviser Michael Koncz branded the Mayweather statement as “both humorous and ludicrous all in one.” Koncz revealed it he had been told by experts that any performance enhancing drugs “will be in your blood 40 days before the fight or the day after the fight. Whatever is there is there for that time period. So what the hell does 14 days have to do with it? Nothing other than to irritate Manny knowing that he has whatever, a fear or a superstition of extracting blood less than 30 days.”
and btw, I don't like either fighter. I just want to see this fight happened like the rest of the world.
I. Hustle
01-08-2010, 01:27 PM
Floyd is a bitch. Testing after the fight should be sufficient.
This was the third post in this thread by the way.
TheMACHINE
01-08-2010, 01:30 PM
sarcasm isnt your strong suit buddy...lol
This was the third post in this thread by the way.
;)
I. Hustle
01-08-2010, 01:36 PM
I knew you got it T-Mach but this guy was going to get a hernia he was so pissed at me. I should have used a troll to keep the fire going.
I. Hustle
01-08-2010, 01:37 PM
That is if I ever had a troll.... which I don't.
Cant_Be_Faded
01-09-2010, 09:59 PM
Mayweather lost respect for this one.
Looks like such a puss.
TheMACHINE
01-10-2010, 01:20 AM
im really looking forward to see who PBF chooses to fight next.
polandprzem
01-10-2010, 03:25 AM
Pro's don't want blood testing?
No way, realy?
aksyunstar
01-11-2010, 07:30 PM
I had huge respect for Manny.
Now in my eyes, he is hiding something.
He needs to step up and take all the necessary test for a huge mega-fight like this.
EXTRA precautions are neccesary for a fight that will go down in history.
I would hate to watch this fight, somebody whip the other guys ass, and ended up using roids.
it has to be legit and fair as possible and I do not blame Mayweather one bit.
He is not a pussy, He will fight....Just Manny is indeed hiding something.
just read this..
http://www.sportingnews.com/blog/The_Rumble/entry/view/48832/is_pacquiao_impossible?_why_steroid_accusations_ar e_baseless
Mayweather Sr. FTL!
JoshO501
01-12-2010, 11:49 AM
I cannot believe some people are actually believing what Floyd Sr. basically started. That is Funny.
baseline bum
01-12-2010, 03:54 PM
Floyd Mayweather Jr.'s avoid these welterweights at all costs list:
[x] Shane Mosley
[x] Antonio Margarito
[x] Andre Berto
[x] Paul Williams - thank goodness he's gained weight
[x] Miguel Cotto
[x] Joshua Clottey
[x] Manny Pacquiao - [x] start steroid scandal
To do list:
[ ] Call Matthew Hatton
[ ] Ask Juan Manuel Marquez if he wants a rematch
[ ] Retire undefeated
:rollin
I'll never pay for another of Floyd's fights. Fuck that pussy.
TheMACHINE
01-12-2010, 04:08 PM
:rollin
I'll never pay for another of Floyd's fights. Fuck that pussy.
I wouldnt be surprised if Mayweather fights Vic Darchiniyan next :lol
HarlemHeat37
01-12-2010, 06:28 PM
So apparently almost nobody in this thread has actually followed this story..I don't know how anybody can blame Mayweather for this..no idea..
Why would Floyd want to fight a cheater?..how does this benefit him?..
TheMACHINE
01-12-2010, 07:09 PM
So apparently almost nobody in this thread has actually followed this story..I don't know how anybody can blame Mayweather for this..no idea..
Why would Floyd want to fight a cheater?..how does this benefit him?..
:lol:rollin
baseline bum
01-13-2010, 08:01 PM
There's about as much evidence of Pacquiao juicing as there is of mouse's 9-11 conspiracy theories. Mayweather's just ducking the fights he's supposed to duck. I can't believe I was actually going to be rooting for this pussy before he punked out.
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