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JudynTX
01-08-2010, 09:29 AM
:D Bring back Orange Julius also!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol


In an attempt to reinvigorate the foundering Crossroads of San Antonio mall, investors who bought the property last year are returning to the shopping center's roots.

The mall will be renamed Wonderland of the Americas. When it opened in 1961, it was called Wonderland Shopping City.

Also, it will be rebranded with lower rents than traditional shopping malls and will feature entertainment, a medical center and space for local businesses.

Located at Interstate 10 and Loop 410 in Balcones Heights, the mall sits on prime real estate that's easily accessible, said San Antonio lawyer Stanley Rosenberg, a spokesman for the group that purchased Crossroads in July.

“We have made some changes, and we're going to try to succeed in making it a desirable place for small businesses,” Rosenberg said.

Crossroads will become Wonderland of the Americas in a ceremony at the mall at 10 a.m. next Thursday.

It will undergo a renovation, get new lighting and will get more security as part of the change, Rosenberg said.

The new owners are working to extend leases with the current tenants, he said, and the Santikos Bijou at Crossroads movie theater, an art house theater that serves food, will stay.

The new business model will involve wooing local businesses that can't afford space at a traditional mall, Rosenberg said.

There also are plans to approach Latin American retailers that have name recognition in San Antonio and convince them to open locations in Wonderland of the Americas, he said.

In the 1960s, Wonderland was an unrivaled shopping center on San Antonio's northern reaches, said Al Aguilar, chairman and CEO of Creative Civilization, the marketing firm promoting Wonderland of the Americas. In the mid-1980s, it was reborn as Crossroads, Aguilar said, but the mall always has been a retail operation.

Over the next few months, he said, it will transform into a community center that hosts concerts and festivals and features medical facilities and children's play areas. There will be a small business incubator that provides support services to tenants.

“Not only is it a new name, but it is a whole new personification of the relationship this mall will have with the community as a whole,” Aguilar said. “People from all parts of the community will come there for a very unique experience, unlike any other mall or shopping center in the San Antonio area.”

The mall has maintained its large tenants, including a SuperTarget, Burlington Coat Factory, Hobby Lobby and a Stein Mart. But Chuck Siegel, president of Rohde, Ottmers & Siegel Realty Inc., said big stores on the mall's exterior don't help tenants inside.

“The big anchors like Target and Burlington do well, but they don't generate traffic going into the mall,” Siegel said.

At least 50 percent of the mall's main floor is empty, he said.

Crossroads still is at a viable location on major roadways and near the Medical Center, said Oscar Montemayor, director of leasing for Wonderland of the Americas.

“We see great value, not only in the real estate, but in the buildings,” Montemayor said.

Crossroads also is home to two 40,000-square-foot conference facilities leased by Norris Conference Centers. President David Norris said his company will maintain its presence in the mall.

There's 630,718 square feet of leasable space in the shopping center, Montemayor said, but he didn't know the mall's current occupancy. A new tenant, a bridal store called Letty's, is moving into a 3,835-square-foot space, he said.

Kim Gatley, vice president and director of research at NAI REOC Partners, said the mall was at 83 percent occupancy before it was sold this summer, and hasn't had any significant leasing activity since.

If Wonderland of the Americas is a success, it will be good for that part of town, but won't have a massive impact, Gatley said.

“I don't see it as a dramatic shift one way or the other,” she said. “I mean, the mall itself is not dragging down the retail market in the Northwest. The Northwest is a fairly strong market, and getting a few new tenants in is not going to swing the retail market one way or the other. It will bring more traffic to that particular intersection and revive that mall as a consumer area.”

Indoor shopping malls are expensive to maintain, Siegel said, and as cities expand, high-dollar customers move out to newer suburbs.

In San Antonio, that means more high-end retail is moving nearer that customer, setting up shop on the northern stretches of Loop 1604 and leaving centers like Crossroads far away from their traditional customer base.

Malls all over the country are being repurposed, Siegel said. He pointed to Rackspace Hosting Inc. moving its headquarters into the former Windsor Park Mall in Windcrest as an example of new uses for shopping malls.

The idea of dropping rents and turning what had been a traditional shopping mall into a value shopping center isn't new, but it is new to San Antonio, he said.

“I can't say that there's another mall in San Antonio that has been changed to this type of operation,” he said. “It all is going to depend on their ability to get the type of tenants who can bring in the product that fits the pocketbook of the consumer who will shop in that area.”

http://www.mysanantonio.com/business/local/Wonderland_name_is_back_for_local_mall.html

CosmicCowboy
01-08-2010, 09:34 AM
My mom left me there when I was a kid. The Handy Andy there had a little reading area up front that had comic books for the kids...I was in there and she forgot I was with her. Got her groceries, left, went home, cooked dinner, and didn't realize I was gone till she called everyone to the table for dinner...

JudynTX
01-08-2010, 09:34 AM
My mom left me there when I was a kid. The Handy Andy there had a little reading area up front that had comic books for the kids...I was in there and she forgot I was with her. Got her groceries, left, went home, cooked dinner, and didn't realize I was gone till she called everyone to the table for dinner...

Can I laugh about that now? :lol

Bigzax
01-08-2010, 10:02 AM
vamos a la pulga de wonderland :sombrero:


i enjoyed monkey wards there and the toy box in the corner in the 80s...

took my drivers ed classes there too...maybe '90...





funny story cosmic, glad she went back for you...what was for dinner?!

dickface
01-08-2010, 10:12 AM
Isn't that the place where John Holmes and his 13 inch penis died?

I. Hustle
01-08-2010, 10:12 AM
I don't remember that at all. Maybe I am too young. I used to hang out at Central Park mall though. Does that count?
My friends and I would all meet up at the merry go round and then once everyone was there we would cross the street over to Northstar.

RGMCSE
01-08-2010, 10:25 AM
I don't remember that either. It sounds familiar but that's about it. My Grandma would always take us to McCreless mall. Every week like clock work. Wonderland shopping center might as well have been another world away.



Rob

I. Hustle
01-08-2010, 10:40 AM
lol @ McCreless

My aunt lived close to there and in the summer my cousins and I would walk to the theater there to watch movies. I remember it being clean then and we could catch the movies for 50 cents. It's only now that I realized the movies were a little older. When you are a kid though it doesn't matter just as long as you get to see a movie in a theater.

RGMCSE
01-08-2010, 10:56 AM
Yeah too funny, I remember as a kid how amazing it seemed. I was thrilled when we would go. It was always monkey wards, luby's and the shoe store. I went back to it right before they tore it down and it looked like America's butt hole.


Rob

I. Hustle
01-08-2010, 11:03 AM
Yeah I heard HEB bought it and it was supposed to be some badass huge HEB with everything you could imagine.

bus driver
01-08-2010, 11:04 AM
My mom left me there when I was a kid. The Handy Andy there had a little reading area up front that had comic books for the kids...I was in there and she forgot I was with her. Got her groceries, left, went home, cooked dinner, and didn't realize I was gone till she called everyone to the table for dinner...

HOLY SHIT! If that was today your mom might be in jail! :wow

CosmicCowboy
01-08-2010, 11:07 AM
HOLY SHIT! If that was today your mom might be in jail! :wow

My dad would have been for sure...he beat the crap out of me with his belt buckle all the time...I'd have these giant purple/black welts on my back, ass, and legs.

I. Hustle
01-08-2010, 11:11 AM
My dad would have been for sure...he beat the crap out of me with his belt buckle all the time...I'd have these giant purple/black welts on my back, ass, and legs.

Yeah but you probably deserved them.

ploto
01-08-2010, 11:12 AM
It is sad when I go in there and see the entire inside pretty much empty.

Yes, I remember when the Hobby Lobby was a Handy Andy, and the Burlington's was Rhodes and then a Frost Bros. I loved going to Woolworth's and Montgomery Wards. It was a big deal because it was an indoor mall.

1369
01-08-2010, 11:12 AM
I remember Wonderland quite well.

Even saw "Star Wars" when it first came out at the old twin movie theater where Transguide has their office now.

/My lawn, remove yourself from it.

JudynTX
01-08-2010, 11:40 AM
It is sad when I go in there and see the entire inside pretty much empty.

Yes, I remember when the Hobby Lobby was a Handy Andy, and the Burlington's was Rhodes and then a Frost Bros. I loved going to Woolworth's and Montgomery Wards. It was a big deal because it was an indoor mall.

:tu Oh yea....loved going to Woolworth's and Montgomery Wards.

And I remember going to the theatre, wish I could remember what movie it was. :lol

I. Hustle
01-08-2010, 11:48 AM
There was a woolworth's by my elementary school and we would stop by and get licorice from there on the way home. We would also go by the Ms. Baird's thrift store and practically fill our backapcks for about a buck.

Trainwreck2100
01-08-2010, 12:13 PM
Target killed that place

EmptyMan
01-08-2010, 12:14 PM
Was that a Ghostbusters game?

101A
01-08-2010, 01:20 PM
Our band used to a have Gift Wrap booth every Christmas at W.Land; also had to escort Santa in every year.

Cyrano
01-08-2010, 01:44 PM
How could I have worked for Radio Shack for over 20 years and NOT know about Wonderland Mall? After all, Tandy corporation built the thing in the first place. Wonderland was the very first million dollar Radio Shack store in the company's history. Unfortunately, its slide into mediocrity became painfully evident by the late 80's - early 90's, with a series of dismal sales years, and actually became somewhat of a joke among managers, after several managers ended their careers there and became known as "club crossroads".

CosmicCowboy
01-08-2010, 02:03 PM
How could I have worked for Radio Shack for over 20 years and NOT know about Wonderland Mall? After all, Tandy corporation built the thing in the first place. Wonderland was the very first million dollar Radio Shack store in the company's history. Unfortunately, its slide into mediocrity became painfully evident by the late 80's - early 90's, with a series of dismal sales years, and actually became somewhat of a joke among managers, after several managers ended their careers there and became known as "club crossroads".

Heck, I remember when Tandys had a big leather good/craft store attached to the radio shack.

panic giraffe
01-08-2010, 02:04 PM
"that part of town" hahahahaha that's not even in san antonio. what part? north balcones heights?

they can't put latin american shops there, the cops will go apeshit, pull all their customer base over and call la migra on them, before they even get to the store. the only bright spot on that place is the bijou. i was kinda hoping they would somehow just make it a art mall, with low rent galleries, all anchored by the arthouse cinema. it would be like a wintertime southtown just past the deco district...but whatever.

i won't shop there anyways unless they can promise that balcones heights wont see any of the tax revenue.

PM5K
01-08-2010, 03:24 PM
What a stupid fucking name. They should just call it NKOTB.

Blake
01-08-2010, 03:52 PM
I remember Wonderland Mall. We would go there to the Mongtgomery Ward's when my parents couldn't find whatever crap they needed from the Sears at Central Park.

Then we would eat at the Luby's across the street that was filled with old people, smoke and ladies that pushed the beverage cart around.

I'm sure I'll make just as many trips to this "new" Wonderland Mall as I did when it was Crossroads.

phyzik
01-08-2010, 05:25 PM
My brother worked at the Montgomery Wards for a while, that place was so easy to rip off.... Woolworths too.

I think what killed that place, and is still going to kill that place, is the sales tax rate in Balcones Heights. I remember it being ridiculous.

z0sa
01-08-2010, 05:26 PM
Remember Wonderland Mall?

No.

exstatic
01-08-2010, 11:11 PM
Remember Wonderland Mall?

No.

You're like fucking 20 years old. It was already Crossroads when you were born.

ploto
01-08-2010, 11:54 PM
Heck, I remember when Tandys had a big leather good/craft store attached to the radio shack.

Wow-- I forgot all about that place.

jimo2305
01-09-2010, 01:04 AM
man yea.. that place is usually empty lol..but i liked it beacuse i hate crowds :lol:

ashbeeigh
01-09-2010, 01:07 AM
I turned the wrong way on Hillcrest last week and ended up at Crossroads. Man, was I pissed. The least I could have done was to get myself lost by North Star.

z0sa
01-09-2010, 01:13 AM
You're like fucking 20 years old. It was already Crossroads when you were born.

lol, 21. and you're probably right.

mrsmaalox
01-09-2010, 02:14 AM
Oh man I hated Orange Julius.

ehz33satx
01-09-2010, 02:17 AM
lol, 21. and you're probably right.

Then how can you possibly remember Wonderland Mall?

Blake
01-09-2010, 02:33 AM
Oh man I hated Orange Julius.

I never liked it either. It had loads of pulp, right?

mrsmaalox
01-09-2010, 02:34 AM
At least I think it was pulp......And didn't they have hot dogs that tasted like steamed pencil erasers?

Blake
01-09-2010, 02:46 AM
At least I think it was pulp

:lol

Slydragon
01-09-2010, 03:20 AM
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e255/corinth940/wonderland026.jpg

CosmicCowboy
01-09-2010, 12:08 PM
That Handy Andy had a "drive through" there on the end...They would bag your groceries, you would pay, and the bag guy would take your groceries to the drive through. Then you would get your car and pull up and they would put them in the car...

z0sa
01-09-2010, 02:52 PM
Then how can you possibly remember Wonderland Mall?

I just answered the question alright :toast

ploto
01-09-2010, 04:45 PM
I was lying in bed in the middle of the night last night and the name finally hit me-- Picadilly Cafeteria.

JudynTX
01-09-2010, 10:40 PM
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e255/corinth940/wonderland026.jpg

:tu That's cool!!!!!!!!

Tits McGee
01-10-2010, 01:58 AM
Great memories of shopping for back to school at that Montgomery Wards!!

Buddy Holly
01-10-2010, 02:39 AM
Yeah I heard HEB bought it and it was supposed to be some badass huge HEB with everything you could imagine.

They tore it down and built an entirely new shopping center. Anchored by an HEB Plus.

They also built a new movie theater, this one being a first run theater and not a dollar theater like the previous.

jimo2305
01-10-2010, 05:36 AM
wow.. handy andy was there back then? lol..

so if i understand correctly.. that picture of wonderland mall back then.. is actually crossroads mall right now?

exstatic
01-10-2010, 11:12 AM
wow.. handy andy was there back then? lol..

so if i understand correctly.. that picture of wonderland mall back then.. is actually crossroads mall right now?

Yup. Out in the middle of fucking nowhere. :lol

exstatic
01-10-2010, 11:15 AM
That Handy Andy had a "drive through" there on the end...They would bag your groceries, you would pay, and the bag guy would take your groceries to the drive through. Then you would get your car and pull up and they would put them in the car...

My sister lives in Duluth MN, and they have a market there that STILL does that. VERY convenient when it's 10 below. :lol

Viva Las Espuelas
01-10-2010, 01:46 PM
Oh man I hated Orange Julius.
Hush, Woman!!!