Giuliani: "No domestic terror attacks under Bush."

[Cry Havoc]

http://tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/01/rudy-we-had-no-domestic-attacks-under-bush-we-had-one-under-obama.php

Rudy Giuliani, the man who was mayor of New York City during the 9/11 attacks, appeared on Good Morning America today to say President Obama should take lessons from former President George W. Bush on how to prevent a terrorist attack.

"What [Obama] should be doing is following the right things Bush did. One of the right things he did was treat this as a war on terror. We had no domestic attacks under Bush. We've had one under Obama," Giuliani said.

Giuliani made the 9/11 attacks (which did happen under Bush) the central point of his campaign, using his leadership of the city to support his political viability. Now-Vice President Biden even called him on it during a 2007 presidential debate: "Rudy Giuliani. There's only three things he mentions in a sentence -- a noun, a verb, and 9/11. There's nothing else!"

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One of the stupidest things I've ever heard a political player say. And that's saying quite a lot.

[exstatic]

He's probably distracted by scouting for his next wife.

[Bukefal]

:lol what a nutjob.

[baseline bum]

I hate Obama and all, but man, what fucking stupidity. :rollin

http://www.theonion.com/content/files/images/Giuliani.jpg

http://www.theonion.com/content/files/images/Giuliani-Video.jpg

[Winehole23]

The anthrax attack in 2001.

[boutons_deux]

Two Repug bitches also this week said exactly the same.

http://rawstory.com/2010/01/maddow-shreds-giuliani-forgetting-911/

Co-incidence they all tell the same lie in one week?

or orchestrated talking points by the Repug smear and lie machine to politicize the underwear bomber affair.

[Winehole23]

Dog whistle pure and simple. The claim made does not withstand momentary scrutiny.

[Oh, Gee!!]

which is the one attack on Obama's shift?

[PixelPusher]

We had 9/11 no domestic attacks 9/11 under Bush 9/11. We've had 9/11 one under Obama 9/11," Giuliani 9/11 said 9/11.

[Cry Havoc]

Bumping this thread. C'mon, no board republicans want to defend this?

[PublicOption]

9/11 retards.
how about that guy that executed all the amish girls, or the virginia tech shootings, or the shooting at NIU. Or the family that at was killed on 01/01/2006 in Richmond.

I would count any shooting/killing were innocent people are killed as terrorism.....because someone busting in and shooting/killing innocent people terrifies the shit out of me.

[Winehole23]

I would count any shooting/killing were innocent people are killed as terrorism.....because someone busting in and shooting/killing innocent people terrifies the shit out of me.Treating all these instances as discrete crimes whose perpetrators are common criminals, does still make sense.

[DarrinS]

Pretty dumb statement, but are you guys really trying to suggest that Guliani was saying 9/11 didn't happen on Bush's watch?

[Winehole23]

What was Giuliani really trying to say, Darrin?

[Winehole23]

You set up the dummy. Go knock it down.

[TeyshaBlue]

Bumping this thread. C'mon, no board republicans want to defend this?

Why would a republican want to defend this? Weird.

[boutons_deux]

"are you guys really trying to suggest that Guliani was saying 9/11 didn't happen on Bush's watch?"

no, tranvestite JulieAnnie said it, and two other Repug ladies said it, too.

For these liars, dubya and dickhead were inaugurated 9/12, and 9/11 was all Clinton's fault, as this forum's Repug-sucking parrots also squawked many times.

[doobs]

Giuliani obviously misspoke. He just failed to correctly regurgitate the Republican line about no terrorist attacks under Bush after 9/11.


One of the stupidest things I've ever heard a political player say. And that's saying quite a lot.

I don't know, using the word "Negro" when talking about Obama is pretty damn stupid.

[Winehole23]

He just failed to correctly regurgitate the Republican line about no terrorist attacks under Bush after 9/11.That is not correct, either.

[doobs]

That is not correct, either.

Well, that's debatable. People can argue endlessly about things that happened after 9/11--whether they were terrorist attacks or mere criminal acts of murder, whether it matters where the incident occurred or who the intended targets were, etc.--but it comes down to differences in definition.

What isn't debatable is that 9/11 happened under Bush. That's why what Giuliani said is so absurd.

[Winehole23]

Well, that's debatable. People can argue endlessly about things that happened after 9/11--whether they were terrorist attacks or mere criminal acts of murder, whether it matters where the incident occurred or who the intended targets were, etc.--but it comes down to differences in definition.The anthrax attack was definitionally not domestic terror, how please?

[Winehole23]

Because US Senators were targeted?

[Oh, Gee!!]

The Shoe Bomber

[Winehole23]

The Shoe BomberRichard Reid was prosecuted as a common criminal.

[Oh, Gee!!]

Richard Reid was prosecuted as a common criminal.

ergo, the act was not terrorism but rather mischief. therefore, rudy's statement remains true and Obama is still the worst president of all time.

[Winehole23]

As long as we have a current president, the controversy will rage.

[PixelPusher]

The anthrax attack was definitionally not domestic terror, how please?

You just don't "get it", man!

http://www.metal-rules.com/zine/images/stories/rock/interviews/Spitz/050418anthrax_logo%20copy.jpg

[PixelPusher]

Richard Reid was prosecuted as a common criminal.

A wasted opportunity, no doubt.

[Winehole23]

You just don't "get it", man!Apparently not.

I thought it was odd that doobs briefly expressed his inclination to disagree, then said no more about it. Perhaps real life intruded, or a pretty girl walked by. Quien sabe?

Treating actually manifested terrorism as terrorism for purposes of conversation, is btw a matter of some semantic dispute lately. Major Hasan's massacre at Fort Hood brought it into focus: this targets were mainly military, not civilian.

Hasan's crimes were acts of treachery and disloyalty -- and quite possibly treason -- in a military fraternity rather than an indiscriminate act of terror against civilians.

[Winehole23]

A wasted opportunity, no doubt.I think not. Surely by now Mr. Reid is a ward of the state somewhere, free from the cares and worries of mundane existence. As he should be.

Life without parole.

[Winehole23]

http://tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/01/rudy-we-had-no-domestic-attacks-under-bush-we-had-one-under-obama.php

Rudy Giuliani, the man who was mayor of New York City during the 9/11 attacks, appeared on Good Morning America today to say President Obama should take lessons from former President George W. Bush on how to prevent a terrorist attack.

"What [Obama] should be doing is following the right things Bush did. One of the right things he did was treat this as a war on terror. We had no domestic attacks under Bush. We've had one under Obama," Giuliani said.

Giuliani made the 9/11 attacks (which did happen under Bush) the central point of his campaign, using his leadership of the city to support his political viability. Now-Vice President Biden even called him on it during a 2007 presidential debate: "Rudy Giuliani. There's only three things he mentions in a sentence -- a noun, a verb, and 9/11. There's nothing else!" Serial amnesiac, or cunning liar?


Former New York mayor and Donald Trump surrogate Rudolph W. Giuliani told Trump's supporters Monday that the U.S. did not face "any successful radical Islamic terrorist attacks" before President Obama took office in 2008.http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/trailguide/la-na-trailguide-updates-rudy-giuliani-the-u-s-didn-t-1471286315-htmlstory.html

[Winehole23]

maybe neither:

http://www.snopes.com/2016/08/16/rudy-giuliani-911-remarks/

[Shastafarian]

maybe neither:

http://www.snopes.com/2016/08/16/rudy-giuliani-911-remarks/

Yeah but he's still wrong. There were successful radical islamic terrorist attacks after 9/11 but before Obama.

[boutons_deux]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_World_Trade_Center_bombing

[SnakeBoy]

maybe neither:

http://www.snopes.com/2016/08/16/rudy-giuliani-911-remarks/

lol maybe?

You're not usually one to run with a snipet out of context WH but it's election season so I guess it's to be expected. Gonna vote for Johnson again?

[SnakeBoy]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_World_Trade_Center_bombing

Giuliani talked about that as well in the same speech.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Ignoring the role of the Bush's invasion of Iraq in the rise of ISIS is pretty convenient.

[boutons_deux]

Ignoring the role of the Bush's invasion of Iraq in the rise of ISIS is pretty convenient.

Even more convenient is Hillary showcasing the Khan's, whose son died in the bullshit War-for-BigOil that Hillary voted for.