Packers V Cardinals

[SpursFanFirst]

Go Pack!

[SpursFanFirst]

OK...this wasn't the way we wanted to start the game.

[Hank the Tank]

rodgers showing the jitters early.

[XFactor]

Cardinals strike first!!

[HarlemHeat37]

Exactly how GB started off vs. Seattle last time they were in the playoffs..hopefully they bounce back..

[SpursFanFirst]

This game sucks too.

[Hank the Tank]

what a bad start for the pack.

[Fpoonsie]

Hoe...lee...crap.

[Hank the Tank]

This game sucks too.

:lol yep

[SpursFanFirst]

:lol yep

most of this weekend has sucked for football.

[Hank the Tank]

my god if this continues this will be one of the most boring wild card weekends ever. all games were basically blowouts. i still think the pack can come back though.

[HarlemHeat37]

Well I bet on Arizona, so at least I'm going to win..the Packers were HEAVILY hyped to the point that Arizona went from being favored to start the week to being 2-point underdogs by today..

Green Bay doesn't respond well to pressure..they started off poorly with all the hype this season, then they went on a hot streak when everybody slept on them..now they're hyped again, and they're choking..

You have to bet on the underdog home team when 2 teams are even and EVERYBODY is jumping on one team's bandwagon..

[Hank the Tank]

that crowd appears to be really loud, and I thought they said 1/3 of the crowd were packer fans...

ouch, that would've made it a game again.

[HarlemHeat37]

New Orleans is going to torch Arizona next week..their secondary is way too weak to go up against all those Saints' weapons..

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

that crowd appears to be really loud, and I thought they said 1/3 of the crowd were packer fans...

ouch, that would've made it a game again.


There were so many Packers fans at the game last week my guess is a lot of them didn't think it through and blew their wad early.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

New Orleans is going to torch Arizona next week..their secondary is way too weak to go up against all those Saints' weapons..


:lmao yeah their secondary is weak. A pro bowl corner, a pro bowl strong safety, and a free safety who can cover like a corner.

[Hank the Tank]

cardinals-jets super bowl!

that would be so messed up.

[bostonguy]

New Orleans is going to torch Arizona next week..their secondary is way too weak to go up against all those Saints' weapons..

No way. The Saints are very very beatable. No one is intimidated of them anymore. They dropped their final 3 games to end the season and their d isn't very good. I like the Cards in that matchup if it happens.

[Whisky Dog]

How about Zona stepping it up for the playoffs? They look good.

[Hank the Tank]

Troy and Joe already look bored. :lol
"How do you like this one?"

[SpursFanFirst]

Once again, I have vbookie on a crappy team. this sucks.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Lucky Green Bay didn't challenge that.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Fuck that. Damn it.

[Toronto Olajuwon]

:lmao yeah their secondary is weak. A pro bowl corner, a pro bowl strong safety, and a free safety who can cover like a corner.
You have to just ignore Harlem Heats NFL posts.

[dirk4mvp]

Come on cheeseheads. Make it a game bros. The playoffs have sucked for neutral fans so far.

[SpursFanFirst]

something finally went Green Bay's way

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Typical Cardinals shooting themselves in the foot. This should be a 24-0 game right now.

[SpursFanFirst]

Arizona is suddenly penalty-prone

[Hank the Tank]

packers D suck, or arizona O awesome?

it seems the packers D is more interested in stripping the ball and getting a TO at all cost rather than tackling.

[SpursFanFirst]

just when GB starts to look like they're going to play, this happens.

[SpursFanFirst]

pure luck on that fumble recovery.

[Warlord23]

just when GB starts to look like they're going to play, this happens.

So let me guess ... you're now a Colts/Cowboys/Packers/Pats fan? Any more teams I left out? :lol

[Hank the Tank]

wow what a catch!

[symple19]

these games today have been failtacular failstravaganzas.

[Hank the Tank]

24-10...hmmm can gb come back? i think they can if their supposed "good defense" comes to play in the 2nd half...and if they don't turnover the ball. i dont know, i just want a close game dammit.

[JMarkJohns]

Typical Cardinals shooting themselves in the foot. This should be a 24-0 game right now.

Cardinals get cocky, then get careless and basically hand the Packers an invite back into this game. Hey Fitz, howsabouts you wrap up! Hey defense, howsabouts you stop committing costly penalties/mistakes! Hey coaches, howsabouts you get in your players' faces and remind them this game isn't over yet, that the Packers aren't going to roll over, and that they still have a lot of work to do to WIN the game. Too much to ask for highly paid professionals?

[SpursFanFirst]

So let me guess ... you're now a Colts/Cowboys/Packers/Pats fan? Any more teams I left out? :lol

No smartass. I just have vbookie put on the Pats and Packers. Is it ok if I pick a team to root for?

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

This game is not over by any means, but it gets increasingly funny every time I hear Green Bay called the #1 defense.

[bostonguy]

What are the chances Boldin plays next week assuming Cards win today?

[IronMexican]

4 bad games this week.

[IronMexican]

This game is not over by any means, but it gets increasingly funny every time I hear Green Bay called the #1 defense.

Shit son. I want to know what you don't scoff.

[dirk4mvp]

oh boy! I'm always excited!

[SpursFanFirst]

It's about time something else goes in GB's favor.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Like I said. Not over.

[Hank the Tank]

wow. the packers have completely given up all trust in their D.

[SpursFanFirst]

FINALLY! C'mon Packers!

[Hank the Tank]

ladies and gentlemen...we have a game! finally!

[SpursFanFirst]

It's official. The Packers suck, and my vbookie will soon be gone.

[760Spursfan]

Larry Fitz is a beast!!

[dirk4mvp]

great catch, lame ass call.

[HarlemHeat37]

wow, Fitzgerald gets away with more than any WR in the NFL, not even close...he's gotten away with 2 clear holds in this game, and he just ran over Woodson..

Meanwhile, Driver got called for a hold on that Finley run when Fitzgerald has been doing that all game..

Jenkins got held too..

Arizona getting away with A LOT in this game..

[resistanze]

LMAO @ GB's D.

[760Spursfan]

LMAO @ GB's D.


#2 D in the regular season:lmao:lmao

[HarlemHeat37]

Absolutely ridiculous how officiating takes over every game in sports..

How do you get away with 3 calls in ONE play? LOL..

[slick'81]

arizona is scary the saints better watch the fck out

[Whisky Dog]

Damn, Fitzgerald is a certified bad ass receiver.

[HarlemHeat37]

the only WR that might get away with more than Fitzgerald is Hines Ward, but he plays for the Steelers, so it's expected..not some horrible franchise like the Cardinals..

[Whisky Dog]

Warner 90% completions, dayum.

[Amarelooms]

Not sure why teams don't blitz Warner every play. His old slow ass can't get away...sure you might give up a couple big plays but by hitting him you can get him off his game. On the other hand, if you give him time your ass is f'd....Saints better bring the heat next week and not play like pussies

:elephant

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Both defenses suck.

[gaKNOW!blee]

these secondaries blow ass

[HarlemHeat37]

Arizona's secondary is amazing according to my man DOK and whoever's troll is Toronto Olajuwon..

[Amarelooms]

Not sure who I want the Saints playing next week. Hope these fuckers go to OT and wear eachother out. I need a Cowboys vs Saints matchup...will be a win-win situation for me

:elephant

[JMarkJohns]

The defense hasn't shown up at all today. Save for Dansby's deflection-turned-interception and his forced-fumble, there hasn't been a single thing of note to say the Cardinals are doing well on defense.

[Whisky Dog]

Not sure why teams don't blitz Warner every play. His old slow ass can't get away...sure you might give up a couple big plays but by hitting him you can get him off his game. On the other hand, if you give him time your ass is f'd....Saints better bring the heat next week and not play like pussies

:elephant

Dude has one of the quickest releases in the game, if you let him get comfortable going to hot reads against single coverage all game he'll torch you. Especially with Fitz out there in single coverage. You have to get pressure with the front and not give up easy routes while changing coverages.

[HarlemHeat37]

Warner really is amazingly streaky..he's 85, but he's as good as any QB when he isn't getting shaken up or doesn't throw an INT early..

[himat]

I know both offenses are great but I don't understand how bad the defenses have been. Packers were #2 and the Cards have a some pretty good DB's.

I want Cards to win. Finally a team in the wild card race that I like is winning. Cincy lost, Eagles lost, Pats lost too.

[JMarkJohns]

Of course, now the Packer's defense shows up... Cardinals are about to give up the game-tying drive...

[Hank the Tank]

the only reason the packers stopped em was because the cardinals opted to run the ball twice. they could pass all day on that D.

[HarlemHeat37]

Green Bay's D was like this before the hot streak and even during it at times..they're very streaky and they'll give you a lot of yards..they're dangerous because they get a lot of INTs and force fumbles..when they play against an offense that can score when they get in a good rhythm, they're vulnerable..

so it's not that surprising..

[Amarelooms]

Crap why are only the Packers players getting banged up....come on spread it around :elephant

[bostonguy]

Winner of this game is going to give the Saints all sorts of hell.

[HarlemHeat37]

Green Bay's D is a rhythm D too though..so that might have given them momentum, especially if they can put up 7 here..

[Amarelooms]

Winner of this game is going to give the Saints all sorts of hell.

True but I think the Saints are gonna march up and down the field on either of these teams. Think the Packers are easier to beat

:elephant

[Hank the Tank]

sweet!!

reminds me of the game between these two in preseason.

[JMarkJohns]

Tie game...

[resistanze]

Thank God one game this weekend was worth watching.

[gaKNOW!blee]

Adrian Wilson doing his best Taylor Mays impersonation

[Amarelooms]

Now you gotta blitz Warner...and get some hits on him :elephant

[JMarkJohns]

Remember when the GB passing stats were 2 passes, 2 turnovers? Yeah, neither do the Packers...

[Amarelooms]

Why does it seem like there are tons of Packer fans there...isn;t this game in Az? lol

:elephant

[HarlemHeat37]

Either team forcing a FG would be a victory for their D, that's how bad they're playing..

[Amarelooms]

Just play the short routes and BLITZ. You can't play passive weak ass D lol

:elephant

[Amarelooms]

lol I saw that TD coming...no one picked that man up

:elephant

[HarlemHeat37]

Let's see what Rodgers can do here..big moment in his career..

Jesus is there for Warner today..

[resistanze]

GB has NOTHING for the passing game of the Cards.

[Hank the Tank]

enough time for the packers to score...then its whoever wins the coin toss in OT eh?

[760Spursfan]

this is like watching the bengal vs browns game from a few yrs back! No D from both teams

[Amarelooms]

Well at least the Saints are watching this and should TRY and make some adjustments to get to Warner's ass and confuse him some

:elephant

[IronMexican]

I got to cheer for the Cards now, since I accidentally spent my VB on them.

[dirk4mvp]

Jennings is showing off today.

[SpursFanFirst]

Niiiiiiiice catch!

[Hank the Tank]

damn nice catch

[SpursFanFirst]

wow, rogers got lucky there

[resistanze]

Terrible ass throw...damn.

[Amarelooms]

How many points will the Saints score on either of these D's? I say 45 easy :elephant

[JMarkJohns]

If this goes OT, the Packers will win initial possession and march down the field in fewer than seven plays for the win.

[SpursFanFirst]

finally! There's still hope!

[resistanze]

Scored too quick...:lol

[eyeh8u]

Scored too quick...:lol

yep

[Hank the Tank]

tsk tsk packers...scored too early. game ends in regulation.

[bostonguy]

Game over. You gave the Cards way too much time to work with. Nice try Packers. Welcome to the offseason.:toast

[baseline bum]

Damn, this game is easily making up for the other three pieces of shit.

[slick'81]

damn what a game 45-45 wthell

[resistanze]

I wanted Pack to win, but they're not gonna stop the Cards.

[bostonguy]

How many points will the Saints score on either of these D's? I say 45 easy :elephant

Saints haven't been able to score well over the last 3 weeks.

[Hank the Tank]

psycho defense?

[resistanze]

'tard defense.

[Amarelooms]

Why don;t they just play man? Stay with your freakin receivers lol :elephant

[resistanze]

Game over.

[Amarelooms]

lol okay Saints vs Cardinals....hope Warner doesn't play like God next week

:elephant

[SpursFanFirst]

miss it, miss it, miss it

[resistanze]

:lmao

[SpursFanFirst]

Yesssssssss!

[Amarelooms]

lol...haha what shitty kickers :elephant

[eyeh8u]

lol, overtime

[Hank the Tank]

:lmao

kickers this season have sucked a lot of cock.

[dirk4mvp]

:rollin

This game is awesome.

[baseline bum]

Fuck, I hate choking-ass kickers!

[HarlemHeat37]

YESS!!!!..still alive..

[Hank the Tank]

the Coin Toss...the most important part of this game comes down a simple heads or tails?

[eyeh8u]

why kneel? hail mary it

[gaKNOW!blee]

thats the shitty life of the kicker...

if the Cards lose he is the ONLY one that will get blamed, yet that defense should be ashamed of themselves.

[David_Stern]

Looks like somebody is gonna be joining Nick Folk in the unemployment line soon.

[Hank the Tank]

tails never fails!!!

[himat]

GB wins.

[resistanze]

Come on Pack...

[jack sommerset]

Sounds like the Pack have more fans there.

[himat]

why kneel? hail mary it

Pick return for a TD.

[Hank the Tank]

GB wins.

poor himat lol. you need to root against all the teams you actually want to win...and that includes the pistons.

[tlongII]

Another kicker has just lost his job. :lol

[HarlemHeat37]

Let's go Green Bay..one drive..I don't know if I trust Crosby, but this seems to be the week for shitty kickers..

[Hank the Tank]

well this game may have made up for the 3 other shitty playoff games.

[gaKNOW!blee]

K. Warner (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=1682) 29/33 379 11.5 5 0 154.1
:wow

[resistanze]

God damnit that was the game.

[eyeh8u]

Pick return for a TD.

very low probability

[SpursFanFirst]

that would have been a nice throw...

[himat]

Nobody there.

[himat]

Yes!!!!!

[SpursFanFirst]

that's right, Packers...screw yourself with penalties. :bang

[himat]

Knowing this game, Packers will get a 25 yard completion.

[HarlemHeat37]

refs helping Arizona once again..Rodgers got a hit to the head there..

[himat]

Wow. Play some defense

[resistanze]

Wow.

[SpursFanFirst]

that did NOT just happen.

[himat]

Yes!!!!!!!!!

[Hank the Tank]

what a game!

[HarlemHeat37]

Rodgers chokes..wow..

misses Jennings for the game winner, follows it up by fumbling to lose..

horrible..

[eyeh8u]

lol again

[dirk4mvp]

what an anti climatic ending.

[himat]

:downspin::downspin::downspin:Hell yeaaahhhh!!!!!!

[resistanze]

On to the simpsons....

[760Spursfan]

looks like the kicker just kept his job....finally the D comes through

[slick'81]

wow what a finish lol what a fucked up way to lose a playoff game

[eyeh8u]

i think a loss like this is worse than being shut out 0-35

[himat]

Rodgers chokes..wow..

Are you kidding me?? Guy played a great game.

[SpursFanFirst]

there goes 10,000 vbookie.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

I don't care how bushleague it is to wait till they W but what a game.

[HarlemHeat37]

Are you kidding me?? Guy played a great game.

he still choked..

he missed the game winner to Jennings and then fumbled to lose..

how is that NOT choking?..

I love Rodgers, but that's clearly choking..

officiating was very poor in this game in Arizona's favor, but GB still choked..

[tlongII]

Crazy finish! If Rodgers hadn't of kicked the ball it might have been an incomplete pass.

[baseline bum]

Damn, that was a Romo-eque way to blow a playoff game.

[slick'81]

51-45 get the fck outta here

[eyeh8u]

the experts got both games wrong today...as usual

[bostonguy]

I love the Cards chances in New Orleans next week.

[David_Stern]

Cheeseheads are gonna be crying for a facemask on that last play. Watch and see.

[himat]

looks like the kicker just kept his job....finally the D comes through

He actually is a good kicker, but wasn't Nick Folk too. I think he was a Pro Bowler 2 years back. So many kickers have choked this year. That guy who was on Washington but went to Dallas choked too. There are some other guys I can't think of.

[Amarelooms]

Crap Packers would have been easier to beat next week :elephant

[slick'81]

I love the Cards chances in New Orleans next week.


cards v cowboys nfc title game...:wow get the fck outta here!!

[XFactor]

Two high octane offense to face off next week, can't wait.

[HarlemHeat37]

Cheeseheads are gonna be crying for a facemask on that last play. Watch and see.

They clearly should have gotten the blow to the head call right before that..no-brainer 1st down..

Arizona also got huge calls on the Fitzgerald TD, 3 no-calls on one play..

[dirk4mvp]

I love the Cards chances in New Orleans next week.

You're assuming the good Cardinals will show up and not the ones that lay turds every so often.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

They clearly should have gotten the blow to the head call right before that..no-brainer 1st down..

Arizona also got huge calls on the Fitzgerald TD, 3 no-calls on one play..


Dam you bitch about refs in every sport don't ya?

[himat]

he still choked..

he missed the game winner to Jennings and then fumbled to lose..

how is that NOT choking?..

I love Rodgers, but that's clearly choking..

officiating was very poor in this game in Arizona's favor, but GB still choked..

I think Neil Rackers choked so bad that it is not possible for me to see anyone else come close to choking right now.:lol

Yeah but that pass to Jennings is going to hurt to watch for that team.

[bostonguy]

cards v cowboys nfc title game...:wow get the fck outta here!!

I can easily see that. The Saints have been awful to finish the season as have the Vikes. Cowboys are on a roll and Arizona could be getting Boldin back.

[himat]

cards v cowboys nfc title game...:wow get the fck outta here!!

Minnesota will kill Cowboys. You heard it here first.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

You're assuming the good Cardinals will show up and not the ones that lay turds every so often.


You'd like to think the good one shows up but you can't tell with this team.

[jack sommerset]

Minnesota will kill Cowboys. You heard it here first.

thats not true. i hear it alot places.

[bostonguy]

Minnesota will kill Cowboys. You heard it here first.

Unless AP goes off, I just don't see it. Cowboys run d is pretty good too. Vikes also have looked like CRAP to finish the season.

[760Spursfan]

Minnesota will kill Cowboys. You heard it here first.


+1

I see the Vikes vs Cards in the championship game

[bostonguy]

You're assuming the good Cardinals will show up and not the ones that lay turds every so often.

New Orleans finish to the season shows they are a very vulnerable team. Arizona has also been a better road team than home team this season.

[760Spursfan]

Unless AP goes off, I just don't see it. Cowboys run d is pretty good too. Vikes also have looked like CRAP to finish the season.

and the Packers D was ranked #2...doesn't matter "on any given sunday"

[JamStone]

Wowwwwww @ this game

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

If Boldin plays he won't be 100%, and either way it's not like Boldin being injured is the reason AZ almost lost.

[bostonguy]

and the Packers D was ranked #2...doesn't matter "on any given sunday"

Cowboys shut down a red hot eagles offense TWO WEEKS IN A ROW! That front 7 is pretty damn good. Vikes only impressive victory down the stretch was against a Giants team that mailed it in the week before. Any given Sunday while true, isn't going to save the Vikes.

[JMarkJohns]

Am I still alive? I'm not sure...

[Trainwreck2100]

Ironic that the kick to win the game comes from the qb.

[J.T.]

Great game but the way AZ's defense consistently gave up points has me thinking the Saints are going to blow them out.

[J.T.]

Live footage from Brett Favre's game watching party after the Rodgers fumble:

7edeOEuXdMU

[HarlemHeat37]

I hope the media doesn't bring Favre in this..I know Rodgers choked, but Favre was probably the most overrated playoff performer of this decade..

Well I have nobody to cheer for now..as long as the Chargers and Vikings don't win, I'm good..

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

The officiating was flat out terrible.

How do you not see Fitz truck Woodson?

Wasn't why the Pack lost, but it was a 3rd rate game from the zebras.

[J.T.]

I wouldn't say Rodgers choked breh. His offensive line did in OT and his defense did for the whole game, but not him.

[Mal]

Stupid Rodgers felt overconfident to throw this 60 yds pass... fumble was a punishment for such behaviour

[dirk4mvp]

lol at Rodgers choking. His first playoff game and he rubbed his sack in the Cards' D's face.

[J.T.]

On the real, too many people now think of "losing" and "choking" as the same thing. It's not.

[HarlemHeat37]

He did choke though..

Choking doesn't mean you had a bad game at all..he had a great game..

Rodgers is a top 5 QB in the NFL IMO..so when he has plays like overthrowing Jennings in OT and fumbling the game to lose in OT, I consider it to be choking..it would be different if he was an average or above average QB, but he isn't..a guy of his caliber is expected to make the big plays when they matter, even if it's his 1st playoff game..

I don't really see how that's not choking..

the Packers lost because of their defense and because of the really poor officiating against them, but Rodgers still did choke..

[HarlemHeat37]

I hope the Packers do send this game tape for the NFL to review though, some of those calls were really bad..

The Fitzgerald TD where he clearly should have picked up an offensive PI should absolutely be reviewed..Green Bay got called for a phantom roughing the passer on that play AND Jolly was held AND Fitzgerald clearly PI'd Woodson..

Then there was the clear helmet to helmet on Rodgers before he fumbled it to lose..no idea how that isn't called, especially when Reverend Kurt Warner was getting those calls on the other side..

There was a few others bad calls for both teams, but those 2 calls were huge, and I expect Green Bay to make a fuss about it and ask the league to at least look into it..the NFL is better than the NBA in that regard, since they actually take responsibility when their refs fuck up..so hopefully this leads to something..

Green Bay fans are already making noise about this(obviously), so we'll see if the league at least says something..

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

He did choke though..


He brought his team back from down 31-10, I don't care what happens afterwards, that's not choking.

[760Spursfan]

I know Rodgers is a good QB but how much of it was actually the way he played as opposed to the way the Cards D sucked it tonight?

[mytespurs]

peter king is tweeting that a penalty was missed on that fumble-should've been a facemask call on "D"...did anyone see it?

[LakerHater]

http://l.yimg.com/a/p/sp/tools/med/2010/01/ipt/1263174280.jpg (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/recap;_ylt=Apmaos0ChR.IJp9iQByjIlFDubYF?gid=201001 10022)

[HarlemHeat37]

He brought his team back from down 31-10, I don't care what happens afterwards, that's not choking.

He had a great game and he was the only reason Green Bay was in the game..he still choked though..

[JMarkJohns]

http://l.yimg.com/a/p/sp/tools/med/2010/01/ipt/1263174280.jpg (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/recap;_ylt=Apmaos0ChR.IJp9iQByjIlFDubYF?gid=201001 10022)

Well after the play, so the ball would have been AZ's anyways.

Looks like Rodgers turned his head (to follow the ball) into Adams' hand.

[LakerHater]

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20100111/capt.eb2b7b049d6a4c8fb72205058ca05275.packers_card inals_football_azmg147.jpg

[JMarkJohns]

He had a great game and he was the only reason Green Bay was in the game..he still choked though..

How do you determine that Rodgers overthrew Jennings on that 60-yard attempt? How do you know he didn't place the ball in the exact right spot, but Jennings ran the wrong route? That ball was in a perfect spot to be caught away from defenders and run for a TD.

As for the fumble, it wasn't from jitters, it was a complete fluke. He was making his reads, went to make a pass, tucked the ball in after Dansby got in his passing lane, only to have a tackler going high accidentally knock the ball out of his hand from his blindside.

Adams didn't intend to cause a fumble, and Rodgers made the right call not to force a pass over the best all-around defensive player of the Cardinals. It was a complete fluke, not a choke.

But there's no telling someone who's mistakenly formed an opinion, gets called out on it, and then digs their heals in.

[JMarkJohns]

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20100111/capt.eb2b7b049d6a4c8fb72205058ca05275.packers_card inals_football_azmg147.jpg

Still well after the fumble. Changes the game, but likely not the outcome.

[LakerHater]

Could it have been called a tuck?

foVp8i86Z_Y

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Could it have been called a tuck?



Yes, if it had hit the ground.

EDIT: Or does it matter?

Interesting Q.

[JMarkJohns]

Could it have been called a tuck?

foVp8i86Z_Y

After fumble. The same hand that caused the fumble was the hand in question. Ball knocked out before any facemask. Let it go...

[j.dizzle]

gotta give Aaron & the packers props for having heart & not folding when they were down big..Maybe the pats should take some lessons hahahaa..Btw, the refs missed a few blatant calls.

[JMarkJohns]

Yes, if it had hit the ground.

EDIT: Or does it matter?

Interesting Q.

Sure it matters, if you're calling it a "tuck rule" then the outcome is an incomplete pass. As you pointed out, never incomplete as it never hit the ground. Forward pass gives way to tucked "fumble" gives way to interception return for game-winning touchdown.

If the tuck rule is to bandied about, then the conclusion must be one of two things:

1. incomplete pass upon hitting ground
2. live ball upon being caught without hitting ground

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Could it have been called a tuck?


How the fuck could the tuck rule apply, the ball never hit the fuckin ground. Even if Rodger's hand was moving forward it would have just been an interception.

[Spurs rock]

HAHAHA Rodgers will never be as good as Favre!

Favre >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rodgers

4-EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[J.T.]

Also roughing the passer can't be called on a fumble so throw that shit out too. Cardinals won fair.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Couldn't remember what the wording of the rule was and I know it can be difficult to track down official NFL rules.

[exstatic]

HAHAHA Rodgers will never be as good as Favre!

Favre >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rodgers

4-EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You won't be so in love with Brett when he hems and haws dicks your team over this summer...for the FIRST time. The Packers had just grown tired of his act, he was getting on in years, and it was time to make the change. Rodgers just needs a bit better O-Line in front of him. He did just fine playing behind a sieve.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Also roughing the passer can't be called on a fumble so throw that shit out too. Cardinals won fair.


I'm surprised HarlemHeat hasn't mentioned the blatant pass interference when they tackled Rodgers as he was trying to catch a ball he threw to himself.

[HarlemHeat37]

I don't have any bad feelings towards Arizona, I don't know why you're mad because I was upset about the officiating..I complain about the officiating no matter which team is in it..I thought there were some very questionable calls..Arizona still earned their win, I hope they do well as the playoffs continue, I don't have anything against them, anything bad I said about them is just from a heated reaction..

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

I don't have any bad feelings towards Arizona, I don't know why you're mad because I was upset about the officiating..I complain about the officiating no matter which team is in it..I thought there were some very questionable calls..Arizona still earned their win..


I'm not mad at all, I find it hilarious that whenever the team you're cheering for loses there was bad officiating involved.

[HarlemHeat37]

Are you saying that the calls I mentioned weren't bad calls?..

I do admit that I complain a lot about calls, like most fans, but they're mostly involving Laker games..

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Are you saying that the calls I mentioned weren't bad calls?..


They were questionable calls. None of which had a blatantly obvious effect on the outcome of the game.

[Greg Oden]

Kurt Warner met 4cc once and the rest is history

I've been wondering if your faggot ass was in the dookie crew. Thanks for clarifying.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

They were questionable calls.

Fitz running over Woodson wasn't questionable, it was OPI.

Just hate to see them call the illegal contact for simply touching a WR beyond 5 yards and then allowing a WR to do shit like that.

No effect on the outcome, just a horrendous non-call.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Fitz running over Woodson wasn't questionable, it was OPI.


Neither were those two bullshit horse collar tackling penalties they called to keep Green Bay in the game.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

I've never seen the actual rule for the horse collar. Have no idea why you couldn't call it inside the pocket, but apparently that's part of the rule.

[JMarkJohns]

peter king is tweeting that a penalty was missed on that fumble-should've been a facemask call on "D"...did anyone see it?

From Peter King's twitter, re: the final play

# Facemask 1: Why there was no facemask called on the final play, when Adams had his hand on Rodgers' mask and drove him to the ground:

# Facemask 2: The referee, Scott Green, stands behind the pocket and has to watch first for the loose ball. Once the ball is out, Green's ...

# Facemask 3: job is to watch ball for possession. He can't watch the QB then. If he saw the facemask, it'd mean he wasn't watching ball.

# Facemask 4: It's a quirky rule, but it's the referee's call--and the ref is charged with possession once the ball is loose.

Or basically...

Why there was no facemask called on the final play, when Adams had his hand on Rodgers' mask and drove him to the ground: The referee, Scott Green, stands behind the pocket and has to watch first for the loose ball. Once the ball is out, Green's job is to watch ball for possession. He can't watch the QB then. If he saw the facemask, it'd mean he wasn't watching ball. It's a quirky rule, but it's the referee's call--and the ref is charged with possession once the ball is loose.

Get over it...

[CubanMustGo]

Tell you this, AZ better figure some way to hide Adams. He can't cover shit.

[JMarkJohns]

Tell you this, AZ better figure some way to hide Adams. He can't cover shit.

He and McFadden both were terrible. It may have been those specific types of receivers. All of the Packers' receivers are big and physical. That's not necessarily true with the Saints. Finley was the biggest issue for McFadden or Adams.

[ducks]

He had a great game and he was the only reason Green Bay was in the game..he still choked though..

no he did not choke
rackers choked
but cards coach should have gave warner one pass more to see if he could throw the ball to get touchdown in regulation

[pawe]

Just got back from the playoff game at the univ of phx stadium and there were a lot of packer fans there. I think its around 10-15k in attendance and they were loud and arrogant.
Awesome experience and the stadium was loud as hell!

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

He and McFadden both were terrible. It may have been those specific types of receivers. All of the Packers' receivers are big and physical. That's not necessarily true with the Saints. Finley was the biggest issue for McFadden or Adams.


Adams should not be on the field defensively under any circumstances. He's nothing more than a special teams player. McFadden is a great nickel corner, he's struggled as the #2 corner all year and will continue to. A priority in the off season should be a physical #2 corner so McFadden can move to nickel. The lack of depth at the position might really hurt them next week against the Saints who are deep as fuck at receiver. Fortunately they don't have any freak athletes like Jermichael Finley.

Next week will be a shoot out. Two teams that can pass the shit out of the ball but can't defend the pass for shit.

[HarlemHeat37]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/These-refs-will-never-be-accused-of-coddling-the?urn=nfl,212716

[BanditHiro]

when you give up 51 points you need to look at your team and not the refs.

[Fpoonsie]

I'm surprised HarlemHeat hasn't mentioned the blatant pass interference when they tackled Rodgers as he was trying to catch a ball he threw to himself.

:rollin

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/These-refs-will-never-be-accused-of-coddling-the?urn=nfl,212716

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/7439/justinjf1.jpg

[Xylus]

Damn. One of the best games I've ever watched. What a great finish.

[760Spursfan]

Damn. One of the best games I've ever watched. What a great finish.

That was a great game full of offense and no D,from what I hear Warner may retire after the playoffs. WTF is going to happen to the Cards? Are they really going to make Leinhart the starting QB??? :lmao If so, they are in a world of hurt.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

That was a great game full of offense and no D,from what I hear Warner may retire after the playoffs. WTF is going to happen to the Cards? Are they really going to make Leinhart the starting QB??? :lmao If so, they are in a world of hurt.


They'd anoint St. Pierre (their 3rd string QB) the starter before Leinart. They've seen enough bad things from Leinart to know enough is enough.