James Madison on the Pelosi & Reid Health Care Reform Bills

[Galileo]

James Madison on the Pelosi & Reid Health Care Reform Bills

"It will be of little avail to the people that the laws are made by men of their own choice if the laws be so voluminous that they cannot be read, or so incoherent that they cannot be understood."

~ James Madison, Father of the Constitution

http://quite-rightly.blogspot.com/2010/01/james-madison-on-pelosi-reid-health.html

:lol

[jack sommerset]

Madison owned over a hundred slaves. Madison wrote that Black people were marked "by Physical & lasting peculiarities" and that they had a "natural and habitual repugnance to labour."

[Galileo]

The second sentence is bullshit.

The first sentence is true; black people look different than white people, and vice-versa.

[ChumpDumper]

The second sentence is bullshit.Sure it is.

But Madison still wrote it.

[SouthernFried]

Ignore everything the people that founded this country did, or said.

They owned slaves. Creating the US is irrelevant.

...and so it goes.

[Galileo]

Sure it is.

But Madison still wrote it.

No, he did not. Site a source or shut up.

[ChumpDumper]

Ignore everything the people that founded this country did, or said.

They owned slaves. Creating the US is irrelevant.

...and so it goes.
Lighten up, Linda.

[ChumpDumper]

No, he did not. Site a source or shut up.http://books.google.com/books?id=CDkMAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA497&lpg=PA497&dq=%22natural+and+habitual+repugnance+to+labour.%2 2&source=bl&ots=IfcEnKH9yX&sig=am1cU490RDUXXjBfJI_RHvKrtDM&hl=en&ei=pQdNS8avFYWWtgeQstHpDA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CAcQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=%22natural%20and%20habitual%20repugnance%20to%20 labour.%22&f=false

Highlighted for you and everything.

[jack sommerset]

It was a written response to questions posed by Jedediah Morse.

[SouthernFried]

Hell, if you look back, most of what the founders said and warned us against...is what's being promoted and supported by the left in this forum, and in D.C.

No wonder they hate the founders so much.

It will be of little avail to the people that the laws are made by men of their own choice if the laws be so voluminous that they cannot be read, or so incoherent that they cannot be understood.

"Damnit!! They owned slaves...they suck!!"

...sig

[Marcus Bryant]

Hell, if you look back, most of what the founders said and warned us against...

Some were certain ratification of the Constitution would lead to the essential dissolution of the states. Oh well, we've gotten what we wanted. Or at least what we thought we wanted. Or what some politician thought we wanted.

[Galileo]

http://books.google.com/books?id=CDkMAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA497&lpg=PA497&dq=%22natural+and+habitual+repugnance+to+labour.%2 2&source=bl&ots=IfcEnKH9yX&sig=am1cU490RDUXXjBfJI_RHvKrtDM&hl=en&ei=pQdNS8avFYWWtgeQstHpDA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CAcQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=%22natural%20and%20habitual%20repugnance%20to%20 labour.%22&f=false

Highlighted for you and everything.

He is just saying slaves don't like to do slave labor. Big deal.

The whole letter is anti-slavery.

You are trying to distort history for your own selfish gain.

[ChumpDumper]

He is just saying slaves don't like to do slave labor. Big deal.

The whole letter is anti-slavery.No, he said labor, meaning any kind of labor. The freed slaves would not be performing slave labor because they would no longer be slaves.


You are trying to distort history for your own selfish gain.What precisely am I gaining from this?

[Galileo]

No, he said labor, meaning any kind of labor. The freed slaves would not be performing slave labor because they would no longer be slaves.

What precisely am I gaining from this?

He wrote this before Charles Darwin's theories came out. He thought that slavery may have affected the psyche of the slaves, even if they were freed.

[ChumpDumper]

He wrote this before Charles Darwin's theories came out. He thought that slavery may have affected the psyche of the slaves, even if they were freed.No, he wrote nothing of the sort here. He wrote their repugnance to labor was natural and would be there, slavery or no slavery.

[Galileo]

no, he didn't. it is an anti-slavery letter.

[ChumpDumper]

no, he didn't. it is an anti-slavery letter.One that says blacks have a "natural and habitual repugnance to labour."

[Galileo]

One that says blacks have a "natural and habitual repugnance to labour."

He is talking about slaves. i wouldn't want to work if I were not paid to do it.

[ChumpDumper]

He is talking about slaves. i wouldn't want to work if I were not paid to do it.No, he is talking about what he sees as the natural state of blacks regarding labor, no matter their status as free or slave.

[symple19]

Hell, if you look back, most of what the founders said and warned us against...is what's being promoted and supported by the left in this forum, and in D.C.


I think the founding fathers would be disgusted with both parties, and our current political climate in general

[SouthernFried]

I think the founding fathers would be disgusted with both parties, and our current political climate in general

Why do you think that would be?