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The Gemini Method
01-13-2010, 11:00 PM
First to do it! Celebrate Laker fans!!!

mogrovejo
01-13-2010, 11:04 PM
You mean the 2543th win from the Los Angeles Lakers franchise?

namlook
01-13-2010, 11:09 PM
The Lakers franchise has won 3000 games. No way out of that I'm afraid.

The Gemini Method
01-13-2010, 11:09 PM
Nope. You're missing 457 from the Minneapolis days. Don't hate, sucka...you still got two more titles. Go rejoice somewhere else.

The Gemini Method
01-13-2010, 11:16 PM
Where are my manners!?! congrats to Dirk Nowitzki for reaching 20,000pts! Big numbers for the big German! Definitely props to him as well...

rhyputa
01-13-2010, 11:32 PM
1st & best record
3000 / 4849 = 61.9%

See why there're so many haters? :king

TheManFromAcme
01-14-2010, 07:09 AM
You mean the 2543th win from the Los Angeles Lakers franchise?

Fail

namlook
01-14-2010, 08:32 AM
The Lakers are clearly the #1 NBA team in terms of franchise success. 3000 wins, best regular season winning percentage, 15 rings, 30 finals appearances.

No other team can compete with that.

namlook
01-14-2010, 08:39 AM
Jealousy is all it is. The Lakers have been in the finals almost 50% of the time the NBA has been in existence! That's insane.

DAF86
01-14-2010, 09:27 AM
The Lakers are clearly the #1 NBA team in terms of franchise success. 3000 wins, best regular season winning percentage, 15 rings, 30 finals appearances.

No other team can compete with that.

So now the regular season wins matter but when talking about the team of the decade they don't?

namlook
01-14-2010, 10:12 AM
So now the regular season wins matter but when talking about the team of the decade they don't?

Did you miss the part about the 15 rings and 30 finals appearances? The Lakers have appeared in nearly 50% of the NBA finals since the existence of the league.

4 rings and 6 finals appearances, more playoff victories, higher playoff winning percentage and 4-1 head to head in playoff series easily trumps regular season winning percentage.

Spursmania
01-14-2010, 10:18 AM
So now the regular season wins matter but when talking about the team of the decade they don't?

DAF, the guys a Laker troll. He's just pretending to be a Spur fan. Check out his posts.
Total Troll.

Daddy_Of_All_Trolls
01-14-2010, 10:19 AM
You mean the 2543th win from the Los Angeles Lakers franchise?

This post tells every Lakers fan what they want to see. Boston Celtics fans are jealous and envious of the Lakers.

The NBA itself recognizes all 15 championships and 3000 wins to belong to the Los Angeles Lakes franchise.

Yet there is a growing movement among Celtics fans to try to say the Lakers only have 10 titles, and the ones from Minneapolis don't count. Why? Because the Lakers are steadily creeping up on the Celtics for having the most titles in NBA history. Where was this argument 20 years ago when the Celtics led by about 10 titles? It wasn't there. That proves my point.

Well, I can tell you one thing, My T-Wolves don't take credit for those Lakers titles of 60 years ago. They belong to the Lakers and moved with them, along with all their players and coaches to Los Angeles in 1960.

Anyway, all those old Lakers titles are pretty worthless anyway, along with all the old Bill Russell era titles. I would say the 5 Mikan rings are worth about 1 title and the 11 Russell rings are worth about 2 titles.

DAF86
01-14-2010, 10:41 AM
DAF, the guys a Laker troll. He's just pretending to be a Spur fan. Check out his posts.
Total Troll.

I know he's a Lakers fan, I think I've been the first one to call him out. But he isn't pretending to be a Spurs fan, all the comments he makes are all very pro Lakers, I think that he is to dumb to change his team's name.

mogrovejo
01-14-2010, 10:59 AM
Nope. You're missing 457 from the Minneapolis days.

Me? No, the LAL are.


Don't hate, sucka...you still got two more titles. Go rejoice somewhere else.

http://www.sportsflagsandpennants.com/images_products/lakers_championship_banner_22975big.jpg

Los Angeles official banner. I count 10. We have 17. Correct your math.

mogrovejo
01-14-2010, 11:00 AM
This post tells every Lakers fan what they want to see. Boston Celtics fans are jealous and envious of the Lakers.

Shut up troll, go root for the franchise player in Minnesota in whatever sport while he's there because you're sending him to Boston sooner rather than later.

The Gemini Method
01-14-2010, 11:39 AM
Me? No, the LAL are.



http://www.sportsflagsandpennants.com/images_products/lakers_championship_banner_22975big.jpg

Los Angeles official banner. I count 10. We have 17. Correct your math.

Don't be mad, guy. No matter what you say you're not the NBA and in their record books it has the Lakers' franchise win total at 3,000. To be honest, you're not even credible enough to warrant anything but a laugh out of me. The attempt to discredit something you are in no position leads me to feel sorry for you. It's okay, because deep down inside your pathetic Celtic loving self knows that if Boston was in the same unique situation (to have dominated in two different locales...) you'd be touting past championships as well. Thanks for the morning laugh--it was better than any cup of coffee.

Daddy_Of_All_Trolls
01-14-2010, 11:52 AM
Me? No, the LAL are.



http://www.sportsflagsandpennants.com/images_products/lakers_championship_banner_22975big.jpg

Los Angeles official banner. I count 10. We have 17. Correct your math.

Son, whatever credibility you may have had here is now gone, and you prove my point. You are envious of the Lakers. Don't spout any crap about what went on over 40 years ago when the league was irrelevant, what has your team done since? Not as much as the Lakers, Bulls, and Spurs.Anyway, as I said, the NBA says you're wrong. You know more than the NBA? Wow, let me school you son, everything the Lakers did in Minneapolis belongs to Los Angeles:http://hoopedia.nba.com/index.php?title=Los_Angeles_LakersLos Angeles Lakers Conference Western Division Pacific Founded 1946 History Los Angeles Lakers (1960- )Minneapolis Lakers (NBA) (1948-1960)Minneapolis Lakers (NBL) (1947-48)Detroit Gems (NBL) (1946-47) Arena STAPLES Center City Los Angeles, California Colors Purple, Gold, and White Owner Jerry Buss Head Coach Phil Jackson D-League Affiliate Los Angeles D-Fenders NBL Championships 1 (1948) NBA Championships 15 (1949-1950, 1952-1954, 1972, 1980, 1982, 1985, 1987, 1988, 2000-2002, 2009) NBA Conference Titles 30 (1949-1950, 1952-1954, 1959, 1962-1963, 1965-1966, 1968-1970, 1972, 1973, 1980, 1982-1985, 1987-1989, 1991, 2000-2002, 2004, 2008-2009) Website Lakers.com
The Lakers hold records for having (at the end of the 2007–08 season) the most wins (2,905), the highest winning percentage (61.5%), the most NBA Finals appearances (30), the second fewest non-playoff seasons with five (San Antonio Spurs has four), and the second-most NBA championships with 15, behind the Boston Celtics' 17.

Daddy_Of_All_Trolls
01-14-2010, 11:57 AM
Shut up troll, go root for the franchise player in Minnesota in whatever sport while he's there because you're sending him to Boston sooner rather than later.

Actually, I am more worried about Kurt Rambis sending Kevin Love or Ricky Tubio to the Lakers.However, since you bring it up, we consider our franchise player to now be Brett Favre. We are hoping he wins us a Super Bowl this season. So, tell you what. After the season, win or lose, we'll ship him to the Patriots for Tom Brady. Brett has got to have one title he can produce. Kevin Garnett got you the one he was good for, no more from him for you. You will need Brett, Brady has no mojo for you anymore either. What do you say?

Ghazi
01-14-2010, 12:24 PM
Dirk gets past 20,000 points and Lakers get 3000th win on same night kinda neat

nkdlunch
01-14-2010, 12:25 PM
Congratulations to the city of Minneapolis

DazedAndConfused
01-14-2010, 01:32 PM
Congratulations to the city of Minneapolis

Jealousy.

ambchang
01-14-2010, 03:05 PM
The Lakers franchise is amazing with all their accomplishments. Makes it even more amazing how such a 1st class franchise can have some an F-Grade fanbase.

mogrovejo
04-18-2010, 10:08 AM
Son, whatever credibility you may have had here is now gone, and you prove my point. You are envious of the Lakers. Don't spout any crap about what went on over 40 years ago when the league was irrelevant, what has your team done since? Not as much as the Lakers, Bulls, and Spurs.Anyway, as I said, the NBA says you're wrong. You know more than the NBA? Wow, let me school you son, everything the Lakers did in Minneapolis belongs to Los Angeles:http://hoopedia.nba.com/index.php?title=Los_Angeles_LakersLos Angeles Lakers Conference Western Division Pacific Founded 1946 History Los Angeles Lakers (1960- )Minneapolis Lakers (NBA) (1948-1960)Minneapolis Lakers (NBL) (1947-48)Detroit Gems (NBL) (1946-47) Arena STAPLES Center City Los Angeles, California Colors Purple, Gold, and White Owner Jerry Buss Head Coach Phil Jackson D-League Affiliate Los Angeles D-Fenders NBL Championships 1 (1948) NBA Championships 15 (1949-1950, 1952-1954, 1972, 1980, 1982, 1985, 1987, 1988, 2000-2002, 2009) NBA Conference Titles 30 (1949-1950, 1952-1954, 1959, 1962-1963, 1965-1966, 1968-1970, 1972, 1973, 1980, 1982-1985, 1987-1989, 1991, 2000-2002, 2004, 2008-2009) Website Lakers.com

As I've said, it's official apparel from the Los Angeles franchise. If you don't like, write to them. There's nothing I can do to help you out.


Actually, I am more worried about Kurt Rambis sending Kevin Love or Ricky Tubio to the Lakers.However, since you bring it up, we consider our franchise player to now be Brett Favre. We are hoping he wins us a Super Bowl this season. So, tell you what. After the season, win or lose, we'll ship him to the Patriots for Tom Brady. Brett has got to have one title he can produce. Kevin Garnett got you the one he was good for, no more from him for you. You will need Brett, Brady has no mojo for you anymore either. What do you say?

I don't even know who Brady and Frave are, so I say I don't give a fuck. I know Rambis should be more worried about his job than with trades.

DUNCANownsKOBE2
04-18-2010, 10:29 AM
Nope. You're missing 457 from the Minneapolis days. Don't hate, sucka...you still got two more titles. Go rejoice somewhere else.


Let me guess you were a die hard back then?

JoeTait75
04-18-2010, 10:34 AM
You're missing 457 from the Minneapolis days.

Those wins belong to the Minneapolis Lakers, who no longer exist. They do not belong to the Los Angeles Lakers.

DUNCANownsKOBE2
04-18-2010, 10:35 AM
Son, whatever credibility you may have had here is now gone, and you prove my point. You are envious of the Lakers. Don't spout any crap about what went on over 40 years ago when the league was irrelevant, what has your team done since? Not as much as the Lakers, Bulls, and Spurs.Anyway, as I said, the NBA says you're wrong. You know more than the NBA? Wow, let me school you son, everything the Lakers did in Minneapolis belongs to Los Angeles:http://hoopedia.nba.com/index.php?title=Los_Angeles_LakersLos Angeles Lakers Conference Western Division Pacific Founded 1946 History Los Angeles Lakers (1960- )Minneapolis Lakers (NBA) (1948-1960)Minneapolis Lakers (NBL) (1947-48)Detroit Gems (NBL) (1946-47) Arena STAPLES Center City Los Angeles, California Colors Purple, Gold, and White Owner Jerry Buss Head Coach Phil Jackson D-League Affiliate Los Angeles D-Fenders NBL Championships 1 (1948) NBA Championships 15 (1949-1950, 1952-1954, 1972, 1980, 1982, 1985, 1987, 1988, 2000-2002, 2009) NBA Conference Titles 30 (1949-1950, 1952-1954, 1959, 1962-1963, 1965-1966, 1968-1970, 1972, 1973, 1980, 1982-1985, 1987-1989, 1991, 2000-2002, 2004, 2008-2009) Website Lakers.com


Maybe they technically belong to the Los Angeles Lakers, but bragging about stuff that happened in another city that the LA Lakers bought is the epitome of lame.

BlackSwordsMan
04-18-2010, 10:37 AM
Nantucket spurs won 5 rings back in the ABA
9 rings faggot

D-Wade #3
04-18-2010, 10:38 AM
Lakerfan insecurity is funny and sad at the same time. Of course, when you have a legitimate argument against them, they scream "jealousy" at the top of their lungs from the rooftops. They might not have anything else going on in their lives, but don't you dare talk about their beloved fags in purple and gold, it might be all they have to hold on to

Giuseppe
04-18-2010, 10:40 AM
Let me guess you were a die hard back then?

Dont be a jealous. You got a one too. My a father, Luigi, him a builder. He travel to America many a times to build a buildings a there. He a go there in a early a 19a90s. He come back with many a dollars and a newspapers. Papa say: "Giuseppe, you come, you a welcome a papa back to a Torino. I a show you, bambino this a newspaper I a buy in a america when I build t a slum in a Western a Phoenix, near a Maryjaneville." I look at newspaper. Big a parade picutre down a mainstreet. Papa says: "Phoenix basketbalateam win a big Championship.They have a celebration. Oh, bambino, america it is a so a special. Even when you a lose, you a win!"

Oh, that a papa. I love a my a papa. Him a good a papa.

DUNCANownsKOBE2
04-18-2010, 10:42 AM
Dont be a jealous. You got a one too. My a father, Luigi, him a builder. He travel to America many a times to build a buildings a there. He a go there in a early a 19a90s. He come back with many a dollars and a newspapers. Papa say: "Giuseppe, you come, you a welcome a papa back to a Torino. I a show you, bambino this a newspaper I a buy in a america when I build t a slum in a Western a Phoenix, near a Maryjaneville." I look at newspaper. Big a parade picutre down a mainstreet. Papa says: "Phoenix basketbalateam win a big Championship.They have a celebration. Oh, bambino, america it is a so a special. Even when you a lose, you a win!"

Oh, that a papa. I love a my a papa. Him a good a papa.


:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao :lmao

D-Wade #3
04-18-2010, 10:48 AM
:lmao

You niggas got bullied and elbowed in the face.

I guess you don't remember the 08 finals? Because I could have sworn the same thing happened to L.A....Boston bullied you niggaz too :lmao

Serge Ibaka
04-18-2010, 10:51 AM
The only nigga who is about to get bullied today is Andrew Bynum after I bukkake all over him Congo style.

Giuseppe
04-18-2010, 10:53 AM
I guess you don't remember the 08 finals? Because I could have sworn the same thing happened to L.A....Boston bullied you niggaz too :lmao

Yes, my Lakers brother, I mean a paisan is a write, you a get a, how Americans a say it????Oh, a yeah, your ass? It a handed to a you.

D-Wade #3
04-18-2010, 10:54 AM
You just jealous cause we got 3,000 wins and have the greatest sports franchise and fans in the world. You dummies that have never owned anything don't realize that when you buy company, you inherit the history of that company, it's debt, it's assets, and all that comes with it. Go wipe ya ass, bitch.

lakaluva loses again, then uses the jealous card :lmao

Serge Ibaka
04-18-2010, 10:56 AM
You damn jews.:nope


I'm from the Congo....Jews don't live there.

Frenzy
04-18-2010, 10:57 AM
Those wins belong to the Minneapolis Lakers, who no longer exist. They do not belong to the Los Angeles Lakers.

I would agree with this.

Giuseppe
04-18-2010, 11:00 AM
I would agree with this.

You both a jealous imbrogliares. One has a no a championships. Other imborgliare have only 3, + that a l that is a tainted. MY a Lakers, they have a 15. They try now for a 16 for a 16. Oh, my a Lakers!!!

Frenzy
04-18-2010, 11:19 AM
You both a jealous imbrogliares. One has a no a championships. Other imborgliare have only 3, + that a l that is a tainted. MY a Lakers, they have a 15. They try now for a 16 for a 16. Oh, my a Lakers!!!

They belong to the lakers sure. But only LA lakers... no.

Congrats to the Minneapolis/LA Lakers. :wakeup

Roxsfan
04-18-2010, 11:31 AM
Jealousy.

denial






The only history that matters is Los Angeles Laker history. I congratulate them on that. Anything prior to that is irrelevant--That's like going to an Enron company picnic this summer:rolleyes

Giuseppe
04-18-2010, 11:34 AM
They belong to the lakers sure. But only LA lakers... no.

Congrats to the Minneapolis/LA Lakers. :wakeup

You get a lucky. Fork stuck in a Manu fall out and get a stuck in a Duncan.

Frenzy
04-18-2010, 11:39 AM
You get a lucky. Fork stuck in a Manu fall out and get a stuck in a Duncan.

:lol calm down man.


But really... you don't actually think your case will persuade anyone right? You won't be anymore successful than any other person trying to convince you that all the :lobt2: belong to LA

Giuseppe
04-18-2010, 11:43 AM
:lol calm down man.


But really... you don't actually think your case will persuade anyone right? You won't be anymore successful than any other person trying to convince you that all the :lobt2: belong to LA

We try and win 16 now so we'll have 16 a then. I hope a Mavs do a dookie on a your Fat Antonios. Oh, that a Lakaluva, he a funny, funny man. He a my favorite a Lakers paisan.

lakaluva's mom
04-18-2010, 12:02 PM
We try and win 16 now so we'll have 16 a then. I hope a Mavs do a dookie on a your Fat Antonios. Oh, that a Lakaluva, he a funny, funny man. He a my favorite a Lakers paisan.

You little son of a bitch lakaluva....You are so pathetic, sittin there, creating trolls, and talkin to yourself

Giuseppe
04-18-2010, 12:12 PM
You little son of a bitch lakaluva....You are so pathetic, sittin there, creating trolls, and talkin to yourself

You not know shit from a Nutella.

You a jealous of all of a our a goodness.

*Of a Horry enunching the Kings. Oy va!
*Of a D and Fish shushing ina Philadelphia. Manoshevitz!
*Of a D and Fish using a Nelson's a head top to a shoot a marlin in a south beach. Viola!
*Of a Kobe, sands a Daddy, ringin' like a song and a bell. Volare'!

Technique
04-18-2010, 12:51 PM
You just jealous cause we got 3,000 wins and have the greatest sports franchise and fans in the world. You dummies that have never owned anything don't realize that when you buy company, you inherit the history of that company, it's debt, it's assets, and all that comes with it. Go wipe ya ass, bitch.
:lol

Daddy_Of_All_Trolls
04-18-2010, 03:08 PM
As I've said, it's official apparel from the Los Angeles franchise. If you don't like, write to them. There's nothing I can do to help you out.

I checked NBA.com site and found this: http://store.nba.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3322658&cp=2834601.2836124.2836125.1421546.2098413

Just admit it. You know the Lakers have 15 titles and are scared they are getting close to Boston's 17.



I don't even know who Brady and Frave are, so I say I don't give a fuck. I know Rambis should be more worried about his job than with trades.
Woah! My response to you was made because you said Boston was going to steal whatever good players we had in our city. Favre and Brady are all time greats in American Football. I think it's safe to say you are a Euro-trash bandwagon fan that just jumped on the Celtics parade recently. What's even more hysterical is Boston claims one win over the Minneapolis Lakers in their 9-2 finals edge. Acknowledging that result from 1959 is an admission everything the Lakers have won in either city counts in their franchise total.


Those wins belong to the Minneapolis Lakers, who no longer exist. They do not belong to the Los Angeles Lakers.

Ignorance. There is a precedence for this. Let's throw out the fact the NBA says all 15 titles belong to the Los Angeles Lakers franchise. When they moved to Los Angeles, all their players came with them. Plus, Jerry West, their #1 draft pick. The 5 titles came along as well.

Now, let's look at teams that no longer exist, the ABA is a good spot for this. here's their last season:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/ABA_1976.html

5 teams went on to the NBA, 2 folded early, and the other 3 folded at the end of the season and didn't join the NBA. There was a dispersal draft for those latter 3 teams held among all NBA teams. If the Minneapolis Lakers ceased to exist, their players should have been spread around the league along with the move, right?


Maybe they technically belong to the Los Angeles Lakers, but bragging about stuff that happened in another city that the LA Lakers bought is the epitome of lame.

This is an interesting point. How about a 20 year old Yankee fan. Can he brag about the 22 World Series titles New York won before he was born? It makes sense to say he can't if your logic is followed. All I know is my T-Wolves and the state of Minnesota don't claim the early Lakers titles. The argument seems to be a recent one, created by nervous Celtics fans as the Lakers draw closer. It should have been addressed when the Lakers moved 50 years ago, not now. That's the only team that should care. I have no clue why a Cavs or Suns fan, who's teams have 0 titles combined, should care.

Ask, me if I care. My team has no titles and may never get one. My point in arguing here was to expose mogrovejo as a little bitch.

DUNCANownsKOBE2
04-18-2010, 04:19 PM
This is an interesting point. How about a 20 year old Yankee fan. Can he brag about the 22 World Series titles New York won before he was born?
You're comparing apples to oranges. Do you know any Kings fans who talks shit about the Rochester Royals 1951 NBA title?


It makes sense to say he can't if your logic is followed.
No it really doesn't, he's not talking about titles won in another city. He's a fan of the Yankees because they're in New York, and he's talking shit about titles won in New York.


All I know is my T-Wolves and the state of Minnesota don't claim the early Lakers titles.
And all I know that people in Seattle still claim the 1979 title as their own, for that matter Thunderfan doesn't walk around and say, "1 RING, FAGGOT!"


I have no clue why a Cavs or Suns fan, who's teams have 0 titles combined, should care.
I don't care, I find it amusing. The fact they think they were an integral part of the Lakers being a good team is funny enough, them thinking that buying 5 championships from Minnesota is something to be proud of is even funnier. It's the equivalent of someone buying Michael Phelps' 8 gold medals and then bragging about them like whoever bought them won them.

mogrovejo
04-18-2010, 04:19 PM
I checked NBA.com site and found this: http://store.nba.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3322658&cp=2834601.2836124.2836125.1421546.2098413

Just admit it. You know the Lakers have 15 titles and are scared they are getting close to Boston's 17.


Woah! My response to you was made because you said Boston was going to steal whatever good players we had in our city. Favre and Brady are all time greats in American Football. I think it's safe to say you are a Euro-trash bandwagon fan that just jumped on the Celtics parade recently. What's even more hysterical is Boston claims one win over the Minneapolis Lakers in their 9-2 finals edge. Acknowledging that result from 1959 is an admission everything the Lakers have won in either city counts in their franchise total.



Ignorance. There is a precedence for this. Let's throw out the fact the NBA says all 15 titles belong to the Los Angeles Lakers franchise. When they moved to Los Angeles, all their players came with them. Plus, Jerry West, their #1 draft pick. The 5 titles came along as well.

Now, let's look at teams that no longer exist, the ABA is a good spot for this. here's their last season:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/ABA_1976.html

5 teams went on to the NBA, 2 folded early, and the other 3 folded at the end of the season and didn't join the NBA. There was a dispersal draft for those latter 3 teams held among all NBA teams. If the Minneapolis Lakers ceased to exist, their players should have been spread around the league along with the move, right?



This is an interesting point. How about a 20 year old Yankee fan. Can he brag about the 22 World Series titles New York won before he was born? It makes sense to say he can't if your logic is followed. All I know is my T-Wolves and the state of Minnesota don't claim the early Lakers titles. The argument seems to be a recent one, created by nervous Celtics fans as the Lakers draw closer. It should have been addressed when the Lakers moved 50 years ago, not now. That's the only team that should care. I have no clue why a Cavs or Suns fan, who's teams have 0 titles combined, should care.

Ask, me if I care. My team has no titles and may never get one. My point in arguing here was to expose mogrovejo as a little bitch.

I don't mind reading long posts but I don't read long trolling posts. You want to troll, make your points in a short and concise way, unless you're that Indian guy, John Hollinger or that kind of troll.

It seems you Lakers fans are in a very small minority in regards to the point under discussion in this thread though.

DazedAndConfused
04-18-2010, 04:21 PM
Haters wanna hate!

lakaluva's mom
04-18-2010, 04:31 PM
Haters wanna hate!

Paranoia is a serious condition, son

Daddy_Of_All_Trolls
04-18-2010, 05:36 PM
You're comparing apples to oranges. Do you know any Kings fans who talks shit about the Rochester Royals 1951 NBA title?
It's their franchises title, I don't know what they feel or if they hang a banner for it. It's their right. I know Dodger fans are happy with that one title from Brooklyn. I have seen them fly the banner. Unless they have all died, Brooklyn still has plenty of Dodger fans. So, do the Dodger disasters in the World Series against the Yankees when they played in Brooklyn not count anymore, and it's now 2-2 since they moved to LA? Yeah, tell that to a Yankees fan. Giants won nothing in San Francisco, but brought their New York titles with them. Willie Mays won a championship in New York and is recognized for it. Ever see that circus catch he made against the Indians? It was in 1954. San Francisco and Mays fans will be happy to tell you about it.



No it really doesn't, he's not talking about titles won in another city. He's a fan of the Yankees because they're in New York, and he's talking shit about titles won in New York.
Well, leagues count titles won by franchises. I believe the Oakland Raiders count their LA title even though they went back to Oakland.

My argument is similar. A title won before someone is born is still a title, no matter where it was won. It belongs to the franchise. They just weren't around when it was won. Let me attempt to clarify with an example. Say fans of random teams are 31 years old and started watching the NBA at age 10 in 1989:

Bulls fan has seen 6 NBA titles.
Lakers fan has seen 4 NBA titles.
Spurs fan has seen 4 NBA titles.
Pistons fan has seen 3 NBA titles.
Rockets fan has seen 2 NBA titles.
Heat fan has seen 1 NBA title.
Celtics fan has seen 1 NBA title.

Now, the Celtics fan, for example knows his team has the most titles but he hasn't witnessed but one and it sucks. So, he harks back to the history of the franchise for glory, all before he was born let alone a fan, and tries to diminish the Lakers old titles. I'd wager back in the 60's you will find Boston newspapers bragging about how the Celtics took over the league lead when they got their 6th championship, wresting it away from the Lakers; who were now playing in Los Angeles. My point is, if the Minneapolis titles didn't count and don't belong to Los Angeles, that should have been addressed when they moved. All the record books count them belonging to the franchise. People can disagree with it, and not like it, but the facts say what they say.




And all I know that people in Seattle still claim the 1979 title as their own, for that matter Thunderfan doesn't walk around and say, "1 RING, FAGGOT!"
I could be wrong, but I believe the deal to allow the move to OKC was the team colors, title, and history stay in Seattle. Cleveland Browns did the same thing when their team moved to Baltimore. NBA-Reference.com doesn't agree with me, they list the Sonics in the Thunder history.



I don't care, I find it amusing. The fact they think they were an integral part of the Lakers being a good team is funny enough, them thinking that buying 5 championships from Minnesota is something to be proud of is even funnier. It's the equivalent of someone buying Michael Phelps' 8 gold medals and then bragging about them like whoever bought them won them.

How did they buy 5 titles from Minneapolis? The owner moved them west, and again, the nucleus of the team came with them. That's completely different than buying Phelps' gold medals. It was still the same organization and continued to excel. Their home games was the only difference from then on out. Any road game the Lakers played since, including this season, they could be from Timbuktu as far as the host is concerned. It just took another 10 years of Boston dominance before the Lakers could win.

Essentially it's a no win argument. I appreciate your logical input.

Daddy_Of_All_Trolls
04-18-2010, 05:39 PM
I don't mind reading long posts but I don't read long trolling posts. You want to troll, make your points in a short and concise way, unless you're that Indian guy, John Hollinger or that kind of troll.

It seems you Lakers fans are in a very small minority in regards to the point under discussion in this thread though.

Awwww... You read it and you know it.

Who says I am a Lakers fan? I caught you with your pants down about your jealousy of the Lakers and exposed you.

mogrovejo
04-18-2010, 05:43 PM
Awwww... You read it and you know it.

Who says I am a Lakers fan? I caught you with your pants down about your jealousy of the Lakers and exposed you.

I honestly didn't read it. Jealousy? :rollin Go read some stuff about the Celtics vs Lakers so-called rivalry. You can even use the wikipedia.

mogrovejo
04-18-2010, 05:51 PM
Bye bye, see you in 22 years.

I understand why you fear so much to play the Celtics that you don't want to see them for 20 years; shows you know the history of your team. Congrats. :toast

HarlemHeat37
04-18-2010, 05:54 PM
I don't care, I find it amusing. The fact they think they were an integral part of the Lakers being a good team is funny enough, them thinking that buying 5 championships from Minnesota is something to be proud of is even funnier. It's the equivalent of someone buying Michael Phelps' 8 gold medals and then bragging about them like whoever bought them won them.

:lol

Daddy_Of_All_Trolls
04-18-2010, 05:54 PM
I honestly didn't read it. Jealousy? :rollin Go read some stuff about the Celtics vs Lakers so-called rivalry. You can even use the wikipedia.

Too bad your team didn't show up to play the Lakers when the latter was the better team and won the title by beating the team that beat Boston in the playoffs. Look up, it happened 8 times. That's just as telling as the actual results. Your team is great, just not as dominating as you think. Example, the Spurs and the Bulls are a combined 10-0 in the finals. Why don't they have more titles? Because they weren't good enough to get to the finals all those non-title years.

mogrovejo
04-18-2010, 05:56 PM
Too bad your team didn't show up to play the Lakers when the latter was the better team and won the title by beating the team that beat Boston in the playoffs. Look up, it happened 8 times. Your team is great, just not as dominating as you think. Example, the Spurs and the Bulls are a combined 10-0 in the finals. Why don't they have more titles? Because they weren't good enough to get to the finals all those non-title years.

Boston leads the league in titles.

Daddy_Of_All_Trolls
04-18-2010, 06:02 PM
Boston leads the league in titles.

Yes they do. How long can they keep the lead? Admit it, the Lakers will probably win 3 titles in the next 10-15 years and the Celtics won't win any. What a storied history Boston has had the last 20+ years. Didn't they miss the playoffs 6 years in a row and get bounced in the first round 9 times? Guess what, those days are probably returning.

mogrovejo
04-18-2010, 06:08 PM
Yes they do. How long can they keep the lead? Admit it, the Lakers will probably win 3 titles in the next 10-15 years and the Celtics won't win any. What a storied history Boston has had the last 20+ years. Didn't they miss the playoffs 6 years in a row and get bounced in the first round 9 times? Guess what, those days are probably returning.

You're getting silly. Now you're predicting the future?

Bragging about the Minneapolis Lakers wins is just...lame. Slightly ridiculous even. Everybody but Lakers fans agreed with that. Deal with it.

Daddy_Of_All_Trolls
04-18-2010, 08:57 PM
You're getting silly. Now you're predicting the future?

Bragging about the Minneapolis Lakers wins is just...lame. Slightly ridiculous even. Everybody but Lakers fans agreed with that. Deal with it.

Nice, avoid my question. It hurts, doesn't it?

Old saying: Those that forget the past are doomed to repeat it.

Facts: Clippers usually suck. Lakers usually in contention. Boston 40 years in contention then a complete turnaround. Look like Clippers last 20+ years.

Yeah, I can predict the future with more accuracy than random chance based on the above.

My two sets of grandparents liked the Dodgers and the Yankees back in their day, before Minnesota had a baseball team. They like the Twins too but remain fans of the other teams. Guess what, they recognize all titles by both teams. None of them ever lived in New York, Brooklyn, or Los Angeles. They live in Minnesota.

You got exposed because of your fear the Lakers will surpass the Celtics in titles. So many of you silly Celtics fans are trying to discredit those titles since the Lakers got close.

Face it, you are jealous and envious of the Lakers, and I proved it.