Spurs Won Their Titles When The East Was Largely Considered A JV League

[F_U_Buddy]

Spur Titles

* 1st - Knicks - ***Asterik***(shortened season 50 games)
2nd - New Jersey Nets
3rd - Detriot Pistons
4th - Cleveland Cavs

Laker Titles (before you start trying to give Kobe an asterik because of Shaq consider this...Shaq had multiple teams with several ALL-STARS and couldn't win until Kobe came into his own. Shaq had non other than Nick Van Excel, Eddie Jones, Robert Horry, Cedric Ceballos, etc etc...Orlando Magic with -- Penny Hardaway who in his prime was a mutha fucker, Nick Anderson, Dennis Scott etc...

1st Pacers (old school hard knock life opponent)

2nd Sixers

3rd Nets
4th Magic

[mystargtr34]

You should post more often.

[doobs]

AsteriSk

Idiot

[I. Hustle]

What I don't get about the asterisk season is didn't every team play the same amount of games? Did the Spurs play fewer games than everyone else or something? It's bullshit that idiots want to put an * by '99 just because their team didn't win. Had the Lakers won Phil wouldn't have called it the * season. So all the whiney sore losers from over ten years ago can shove it up their asterisk.


BTW Yeah the sixers, nets, and magic were super hardcore opponents too lol

[sonic21]

good thread

[Double-Up]

Fuck you buddy.

[TheManFromAcme]

Man, this asterisk thing is so early 00's. Old news. All teams had equal chances to win it.
I personally wished it would have been a full season but everyone participated for the LOB in 1999 which makes it legit.

Only thing I will add is that the 1999 championship closed out the 90's giving the Spurs that one championship to close out that decade. We all know who the 00's belong to. :)

[Jose Canseco]

I know how you can really improve your posting if you're willing to really be proactive in being the best troll you possibly can be. I'll even help you with the asterik so you don't have to do it yourself. I know people. Give me a call and I'll hook you up.

[I. Hustle]

Man, this asterisk think is so early 00's. Old news. All teams had equal chances to win it.
I personally wished it would have been a full season but everyone participated for the LOB in 1999 which makes it legit.

Only thing I will add is that the 1999 championship closed out the 90's giving the Spurs that one championship to close out that decade. We all know who the 00's belong to. :)

Thank you. A laker fan that gets it and has a brain. Even if it was 30 games as long as everyone had the same shot at it who cares?

[MiamiHeat]

Did Laker fan hit his head?

[Chieflion]

I love how the loser forget that the Lakers beat the so called JV teams from the East to win the titles in the early 00s.

[CubanMustGo]

LakerFan insecurity is reaching unheard-of levels.

[Muser]

2004 Lakers lost to Pistons

2005 Spurs beat Pistons

:downspin:

[spursncowboys]

AsteriSk

Idiot
Atleast he didn't put an x at the end.

[spursncowboys]

Man, this asterisk thing is so early 00's. Old news. All teams had equal chances to win it.
I personally wished it would have been a full season but everyone participated for the LOB in 1999 which makes it legit.

Only thing I will add is that the 1999 championship closed out the 90's giving the Spurs that one championship to close out that decade. We all know who the 00's belong to. :)
The Spurs in the 2000's had the highest winning percentage in the league. They had the third highest (Lakers in 80's and Bulls in 90's) winning percentage for a decade. Lakers missed the playoffs in this decade. It's like come on.

[Agloco]

Spur Titles

* 1st - Knicks - ***Asterik***(shortened season 50 games)
2nd - New Jersey Nets
3rd - Detriot Pistons
4th - Cleveland Cavs

Laker Titles (before you start trying to give Kobe an asterik because of Shaq consider this...Shaq had multiple teams with several ALL-STARS and couldn't win until Kobe came into his own. Shaq had non other than Nick Van Excel, Eddie Jones, Robert Horry, Cedric Ceballos, etc etc...Orlando Magic with -- Penny Hardaway who in his prime was a mutha fucker, Nick Anderson, Dennis Scott etc...

1st Pacers (old school hard knock life opponent)

2nd Sixers

3rd Nets
4th Magic

You mean the same JV Pistons who handed you a spoonful of your own asses a year before we handled them?

And lol Sixers - That's JV :lol

[admiralsnackbar]

If one were to buy into the OPs premise, one would also have to say the Celtics and Lakers cleaned-up on LOBs when the rest of the league was JV (or, as the case may be, ABA).

[Daddy_Of_All_Trolls]

I don't understand the need for this thread. After the Michael Jordan era ended, the west has 8 titles, the east 3. Most of these years saw the real finals to be the western conference finals. Neither the Lakers nor the Spurs seem to have an advantage or disadvantage over either of themselves.I wonder how the T-Wolves would have done in the 2004 finals had we made it? We did have two 1 point wins over the Pistons that year and would have had HCA. Bah, I am kidding myself. Pistons were going to beat whoever survived the west.

[21_Blessings]

I love how the loser forget that the Lakers beat the so called JV teams from the East to win the titles in the early 00s.

The Spurs continually beat JV teams in the West 05-07. You even lose to one in 2006. Once the Lakers re-emerged the championships stopped. No surprise there.

And every single one of the Lakers finals opponents were better than the Cavs by a large margin.

[scanry]

Spur Titles

* 1st - Knicks - ***Asterik***(shortened season 50 games)
2nd - New Jersey Nets
3rd - Detriot Pistons
4th - Cleveland Cavs

Laker Titles (before you start trying to give Kobe an asterik because of Shaq consider this...Shaq had multiple teams with several ALL-STARS and couldn't win until Kobe came into his own. Shaq had non other than Nick Van Excel, Eddie Jones, Robert Horry, Cedric Ceballos, etc etc...Orlando Magic with -- Penny Hardaway who in his prime was a mutha fucker, Nick Anderson, Dennis Scott etc...

1st Pacers (old school hard knock life opponent)

2nd Sixers

3rd Nets
4th Magic

Nice and smooth bro...

You should post more often!!!

[Muser]

:lmao at saying 2006 Dallas where a JV team.

[Spursmania]

The Spurs continually beat JV teams in the West 05-07. You even lose to one in 2006. Once the Lakers re-emerged the championships stopped. No surprise there.

And every single one of the Lakers finals opponents were better than the Cavs by a large margin.

The Lakers were a JV team as well since you couldn't beat us any of those years too dumbass. You were all JV teams compare to the Spurs.:lmao
:lobt2::lobt2:

LA wasn't even relevant! What a pendejo.

[SamoanTD]

I think somebody is startin ta get a lil scared of the spurs startin ta creep up in the rearview

[21_Blessings]

:lmao at saying 2006 Dallas where a JV team.

They were and played like one in the 06 finals and 07 first round (same team basically).

[Chieflion]

The Spurs continually beat JV teams in the West 05-07. You even lose to one in 2006. Once the Lakers re-emerged the championships stopped. No surprise there.

And every single one of the Lakers finals opponents were better than the Cavs by a large margin.
21_Cuckcolds insulting his own team that it is a JV team. No suprises that 21_Fucktards owned himself there.

[21_Blessings]

21_Cuckcolds insulting his own team that it is a JV team. No suprises that 21_Fucktards owned himself there.

The Lakers were definitely a JV team in 05-07 just like the Spurs are a JV team 08-10. Difference was the Lakers had garbage like Smush and Kwame while the Spurs are stacked and still couldn't sniff a ring.

[VBM]

Shaq had multiple teams with several ALL-STARS and couldn't win until Kobe came into his own.

Of course Kobe couldn't win without Shaq until that Pau Gasol guy came around, right? Even though he had Caron Butler and Lamar Odom with him in 04-05...

[Chieflion]

The Lakers were definitely a JV team in 05-07 just like the Spurs are a JV team 08-10. Difference was the Lakers had garbage like Smush and Kwame while the Spurs are stacked and still can't sniff a ring.
Again, I love how 21_Cuckcolds insinuate that the Lakers beat JV teams on their way towards the last championship, and that there should be as asterisk on that. Thanks for the laughs.

[Muser]

Okay, so what where the 04 Lakers? If the 2005 Pistons where a JV team according to the OP then how couldn't Kobe/Shaq/Payton/Malone beat them in 2004?

[Mr.Robinson]

Lakers fans do no watch the NBA.

[VBM]

Okay, so what where the 04 Lakers? If the 2005 Pistons where a JV team according to the OP then how couldn't Kobe/Shaq/Payton/Malone beat them in 2004?

Karl Malone was apparently the best player on their team that year...you couldn't have expected them to win without him, could you?:rolleyes

[21_Blessings]

Okay, so what where the 04 Lakers?

Injured and broken.


If the 2005 Pistons where a JV team according to the OP then how couldn't Kobe/Shaq/Payton/Malone beat them in 2004?

Malone was hurt dumbass, payton washed up. No bench. Yet still better than the Spurs. Which is funny.

[JamStone]

This thread has great potential.

[21_Blessings]

Karl Malone was apparently the best player on their team that year...you couldn't have expected them to win without him, could you?:rolleyes

Malone was actually their second best defender, rebounder and third option that could spread the floor for Shaq. You think the Spurs beat the Pistons in 05 without their third best player? Fat chance.

[VBM]

Malone was actually their second best defender, rebounder and third option that could spread the floor for Shaq. You think the Spurs beat the Pistons in 05 without their third best player? Fat chance.

Ginobili's ankle was jacked up against LA in 08, so what's your point?

[21_Blessings]

Ginobili's ankle was jacked up against LA in 08, so what's your point?

Keep using this retarded exuse when he played every one of those games with heavy minutes.

Meanwhile the Lakers stomped that Spurs team without TWO of their STARTERS. Kobe took that Spur ass to Colorado.

[VBM]

Keep using this retarded exuse when he played every one of those games with heavy minutes.

Meanwhile the Lakers stomped that Spurs team without TWO of their STARTERS. Kobe took that Spur ass to Colorado.

Well, I'm sure Malone could have stood on the court for heavy minutes as well...doesn't mean he'd be effective.

And I don't think using Bynum's injury as an excuse works...it's not like it led to Pau Gasol coming to LA or anything...

[Muser]

Manu averaged 32 minutes in 2008 WCF, Malone averaged 30 minutes in 2004 finals.

[21_Blessings]

Manu averaged 32 minutes in 2008 WCF, Malone averaged 30 minutes in 2004 finals.

Manu was running, jumping and played every game. Including a 30 point outburst. Malone did not play every game (Slava started game 5, another NBA wash out) and literally could not move out there.

[21_Blessings]

And I don't think using Bynum's injury as an excuse works...it's not like it led to Pau Gasol coming to LA or anything...

It didn't. Gasol trade happens regardless. The Lakers never planned on keeping Kwame's expiring.

The Spurs were punked by an undermanned Lakers team. Time to get over it.

[hater]

LMAO at the lakerfan obsession with Spurs. Keep it coming.

[VBM]

Gasol trade happens regardless. The Lakers never planned on keeping Kwame's expiring.



I'd believe you if it had happened before Bynum got hurt...then again, with Jerry whispering sweet nothings into Wallace's ear, you could be right.

[21_Blessings]

I'd believe you if it had happened before Bynum got hurt...then again, with Jerry whispering sweet nothings into Wallace's ear, you could be right.

Funny coming from a Spurs fan that took that Dick from Milwaukee for expiring trash. Yes Bowen is a piece of trash. :lol

At least Memphis got a 15/10 center out of the deal AND cap space.

[Ed Lover]

* 1st - Knicks - ***Asterik***(shortened season 50 games)


C'mon son!! Getdafuckouttaherewitdatboolshit

[J.T.]

lol laker fan bitter he doesn't have the spurs 4 championship rings

lol couldn't beat the fuckin pistons

[hater]

Funny coming from a Spurs fan that took that Dick from Milwaukee for expiring trash. Yes Bowen is a piece of trash. :lol

At least Memphis got a 15/10 center out of the deal AND cap space.

you are a joke. You know damn well at the time the big trade asset was Kwame Brown. You got gasol for Kwame. get real.

[VBM]

Funny coming from a Spurs fan that took that Dick from Milwaukee for expiring trash. Yes Bowen is a piece of trash. :lol

At least Memphis got a 15/10 center out of the deal AND cap space.

A direct result of the Gasol move...not sure what you're trying to argue there. Just like the Gasol move was a direct result of Bynum getting hurt.

And lol at the Bowen/trash comment...so SA won 3 titles with a piece of trash getting major minutes? Just another testament to the greatness of Tim Duncan. Thanks for the props, homie.

[The Gemini Method]

LMAO at the lakerfan obsession with Spurs. Keep it coming.

Oh, the irony in this statement...

[VBM]

Oh, the irony in this statement...

I'll cosign this...no doubt the obsession runs both ways...bound to happen when teams (and/or their fans) hate each other this much.

[Trainwreck2100]

lol pacers sixers and nets, quite the murderer's row there.

[J.T.]

Oh, the irony in this statement...

Oh the irony in this statement being posted on a site called SpursTalk.

:lmao laker chodes

[Sportcamper]

2003 Spurs was a great team...

[Trainwreck2100]

2003 Spurs was a great team...


I wasn't going to point out that the played the same team the 2002 lakers did even though according to the op they weren't a jv team, but when they played the spurs a year later they were, which makes no sense

[Hype Man Manu]

You guys are ALL retards. Why do you let yourselves get trolled so hard?
We only need 12 more rings to pass them up. You guys act like it is impossible.

[The Gemini Method]

Oh the irony in this statement being posted on a site called SpursTalk.

:lmao laker chodes

Just because it is a Spurs talk, doesn't mean the NBA Forum has to be about the Laker 24/7...There are other teams in the league you know, buster.

[VBM]

Why do you let yourselves get trolled so hard?


Because it's 6 hours until the weekend. Whatever helps pass the time...

[ffadicted]

They were and played like one in the 06 finals and 07 first round (same team basically).

This man should be an NBA coach because he clearly knows a lot about how important matchups are in basketball

[Trainwreck2100]

Just because it is a Spurs talk, doesn't mean the NBA Forum has to be about the Laker 24/7...There are other teams in the league you know, buster.

this was originally posted in the spurs forum not the nba forum. The mods have to move it, so the blight doesn't spread.

[YoMamaIsCallin]

Fail on two counts.

(1) Last I checked, the NBA champion actually had to win the Western Conference to get to the finals. So they were the best of the West, as well as beating the best of the East. Therefore, even if we grant for the sake of argument that any number of teams from the West could have beaten the East champ, it's still the case that the Spurs were better than the other West teams in those championship years.

In simple terms you can understand: Even if your premise is true, your conclusion is false.

(2) In 1999, every team in the NBA competed under exactly the same conditions (shortened season). No team gained any special advantage. Also, the playoffs were not changed at all, and we all know the playoffs are the real season. Therefore, there's no logical reason to suppose that the Spurs' 1999 championship would have not been obtained if there had not been a shortened regular season.

YOU LOSE.

[The Gemini Method]

this was originally posted in the spurs forum not the nba forum. The mods have to move it, so the blight doesn't spread.

Gotcha. I don't agree with this thread, so I really shouldn't have made my presence in here. I'm not sure who this guy is, but he is continuously trolling like no other.

[SenorSpur]

These intelligent posts just keep getting better and better. :lol

[Gutter92]

Haha, I love how he starts out like a Laker fan but all but says he is a Kobe fan when he says "dont give KOBE an asterisk" lmao. Bad troll is bad.

1999 season is an asterisk? what about 2002?

[j.dizzle]

LOL at starting these stupid fucking threads all the time.

[Findog]

Congratulations on getting this thread to 4 pages.

http://greenfyre.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/hook-line-sinker-how-i-fell-for-a-phishing-scam.jpg

[Agloco]

Congratulations on getting this thread to 4 pages.

http://greenfyre.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/hook-line-sinker-how-i-fell-for-a-phishing-scam.jpg

Cool painting brah..... you do that yourself?

[Fpoonsie]

Congratulations on getting this thread to 4 pages.

http://greenfyre.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/hook-line-sinker-how-i-fell-for-a-phishing-scam.jpg

Yeah, you've gotta assume SOMEthing's amiss when the OP disappears after creating the thread.

[midnightpulp]

I guess Laker fan has the right to have fun these days. After all, from 2004 to 2008 their franchise was the joke of the NBA.

[Drachen]

I think somebody is startin ta get a lil scared of the spurs startin ta creep up in the rearview

I know its too early to break it out, but it would be nice to get one of those photoshopped pics you used to see in here around march where you see the star player of whoever was ahead of us in the standings with a freaked out face in a car, and had a police motorcycle behind them with the Spur du jour pulling them over. Some of the old timers must remember this. I dont know that I have seen it in a while though.

[PDXSpursFan]

What's the point of this thread? Even if the East was a JV-League the Spurs still had to beat the West teams 1st.

[Chingo Bling]

Jou putos are broken pinche records. It's the same chit everyday with how the Lakers are better than the Spurs and the Spurs are better than the Lakers. Hey puto Laker fan, if jou love the Lakers so mush why have an account on SpursTalk? Y tu pinche Spurs fan, why jou let those jotitos troll jou so bad huh? Who gives a chit who won 11, 8, 5, 4 jears ago? The current shamps are the putamadre Lakers. If jou are going to argue then argue about this jears teams and not the pinche "JV" teams and "asterisks" teams.

Don't get mad to me that ustedes putos sound like panochas and Chingo called jou out on it.

[Trainwreck2100]

Congratulations on getting this thread to 4 pages.

http://greenfyre.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/hook-line-sinker-how-i-fell-for-a-phishing-scam.jpg

CMON with that sig man, you gonna get somebody fired

[antgomez2009]

The Spurs continually beat JV teams in the West 05-07. You even lose to one in 2006. Once the Lakers re-emerged the championships stopped. No surprise there.

And every single one of the Lakers finals opponents were better than the Cavs by a large margin.


This was a dumb post!

Getting to the Finals, is hard enough!

The Pistons in 05 were hands down tougher then your Magic Team you beat last year, and tougher then any teams the Lakers won against in the finals in the 2000's!

Come on, peeps, you get to the Finals to win a championship, there are no # 2's! Lakers lost twice in the Finals, '04 and '08! Missed the playoff's one year, and took a Gasol trade to put you above most teams if not all teams in the NBA... Not complaining, just pointing out the obvious!

Lakers are a great team, are they the same team that 3peated in the early 2000's, No! (might i add, that was an awsome team, prime Shaq and fearless Kobe! with vets like Horry and Harper, fisher!) So all that talking is just going to get you a pat on the back!!

Who cares who dominated what year, its 2010, lets see who can win it this year!!!
and when its 2011, lets see who wins it then! Its obvious there are only a handful of teams that were consistent and maintained a championship caliber team. Other then that, Play some ball and stop D. Riding!

[Killakobe81]

this is crap I never agreed with the asterisk*
The only knock on the Spurs is the inability to repeat ...
A title is a title.
Spurs have 4 ...nuff said

[lil_penny]

this is crap i never agreed with the asterisk*
the only knock on the spurs is the inability to repeat ...
A title is a title.
Spurs have 4 ...nuff said

x2

[Chucho]

I guess Laker fan has the right to have fun these days. After all, from 2004 to 2008 their franchise was the joke of the NBA.
OMG!! 'Member dat tyme when dee LAKERZ werez up 3-1 against the biggest JV team ever, da Sunz and lost da next 3 gamez!! Og my godz! Fuckin choke.

OMG! 'Member dat time in 05 when da Lakerz mist da play offs?? Member dat time when da Lakerz lost again to da Sunz?! A fuck JV team if there ever was one.

Member dat time Kobe needed a big man to help him drag the Lakerz to da finalz but lost?!!

Lakers fans need to shut the fuck up. The Spurs haven't fallen off at all this decade, they've got more wins than anyone in the last ten years. Never missed the playoffs and are the only fuckin team with 10 53+ win seasons ever. SHUT THE FUCK UP. It's fuckin dick envy worse than the Mavericks, because the Mavs ain't never won shit.

Kobe cant win shit on his own, it's proven, he needs a big man to defer to. Shaq piggy backed his ass to three titles, then Kobe quarterbacked the biggest JV squad for three seasons of jack shit, then he cried like the bitch that he is and Buss and Kupchak raped Memphis of Gasol, then his JV squad lost to the Varsity. Kobe had to take his championship from a real JV squad in the Magic, and not to mention they BARLEY got past a busted up Houston team. THAT'S HOW IT FUCKIN IS. DEAL WITH IT COCKSUCKERS.

[Rob123]

Spur Titles

* 1st - Knicks - ***Asterik***(shortened season 50 games)
2nd - New Jersey Nets
3rd - Detriot Pistons
4th - Cleveland Cavs

Laker Titles (before you start trying to give Kobe an asterik because of Shaq consider this...Shaq had multiple teams with several ALL-STARS and couldn't win until Kobe came into his own. Shaq had non other than Nick Van Excel, Eddie Jones, Robert Horry, Cedric Ceballos, etc etc...Orlando Magic with -- Penny Hardaway who in his prime was a mutha fucker, Nick Anderson, Dennis Scott etc...

1st Pacers (old school hard knock life opponent)

2nd Sixers

3rd Nets
4th Magic


This isnt homerism. This seems like an extreme case of mental retardation.

If anyone knows this poster please get him help.

[Basketballgirl25]

Spur Titles

* 1st - Knicks - ***Asterik***(shortened season 50 games)
2nd - New Jersey Nets
3rd - Detriot Pistons
4th - Cleveland Cavs

Laker Titles (before you start trying to give Kobe an asterik because of Shaq consider this...Shaq had multiple teams with several ALL-STARS and couldn't win until Kobe came into his own. Shaq had non other than Nick Van Excel, Eddie Jones, Robert Horry, Cedric Ceballos, etc etc...Orlando Magic with -- Penny Hardaway who in his prime was a mutha fucker, Nick Anderson, Dennis Scott etc...

1st Pacers (old school hard knock life opponent)

2nd Sixers

3rd Nets
4th Magic

Well I can say I liked when Nets played Spurs in the finals, we won one game that year, Lakers not so much

[midnightpulp]

Spur Titles

* 1st - Knicks - ***Asterik***(shortened season 50 games)
2nd - New Jersey Nets
3rd - Detriot Pistons
4th - Cleveland Cavs

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*(Spurs swept the Lakers and closed down the Forum.)

[SpursNextRomanEmpire]

Then how come the Lakers couldnt make it to the championship?

[JoeTait75]

Both teams fattened up on the weak East. Clearly.

[Strike]

Blame the weaker teams in the east for being weaker than the stronger teams in the west.

[Daddy_Of_All_Trolls]

This thread has reached new depths of mediocrity. Spurs = Lakers last 11 years. Call it a draw as Magic Johnson did. The 3 One hit wonders; Detroit, Miami, and Boston, all done, but Spurs and Lakers are still in the mix. Worry about the next good team to put together a run and crash the party...Portland, OKC, whereever LeBron jumps to next year....

[SpursDynasty]

The East teams that made the Finals in the 2000's were all a joke except for the 2005 Pistons and 2008 Celtics. So both the Spurs and Lakers won titles against JV East teams.

[DazedAndConfused]

You can only play the teams in front of you.

Trying to make an argument that somehow a team is unworthy of a championship because their road to the title was "easy" or "easier" than in past years is both incredibly stupid and difficult to actually prove. Once you walk down that path you have to examine every single variable that can affect the outcome of a series.

IMHO, barring a major cheating scandal, every NBA champion is equally deserving of their title.

[XFactor]

What exactly is a JV League?

[JoeTait75]

What exactly is a JV League?

The East below Jordan from 1991-98 and the East without Jordan from 1998-2003.

[hitmanyr2k]

Both teams fattened up on the weak East. Clearly.

True, but at least the Spurs can say they beat a REAL Eastern Conference opponent during the 00's. The Lakers never did. The first time LA came up against a good Eastern Conference opponent they got dominated from start to finish. It reminded me of Rocky III. The Lakers got fat on easy weaksauce set-ups from the Eastern Conference and thought they could just show up in the Finals and win until Detroit "Clubber Lang" Pistons came in and beat the snot out of their soft, Hollywood asses :lol

[Hornets1]

This season the Soutgwest divison has all 5 teams above .500. The entire eastern confrence has 4 teams above .500. Nothing has changed. If anything tge finals should be tougher for the western team. 8 seed in tge west can be Dallas/Denver/Thunder/NOLA/PHX and the 8 seed in the east could be the knicks or 76ers.

+10000
Great Comparison. Great post.:toast

[JoeTait75]

True, but at least the Spurs can say they beat a REAL Eastern Conference opponent during the 00's. The Lakers never did. The first time LA came up against a good Eastern Conference opponent they got dominated from start to finish. It reminded me of Rocky III. The Lakers got fat on easy weaksauce set-ups from the Eastern Conference and thought they could just show up in the Finals and win until Detroit "Clubber Lang" Pistons came in and beat the snot out of their soft, Hollywood asses :lol

L.A. beat outstanding Portland and Sacramento teams in the WC Playoffs, teams that were arguably as good or better than the 2004 Pistons.

It doesn't matter. No team that wins a Championship has to apologize for anything.

As for the conferences, the West top-to-bottom was better than the East from 1991 until 2008 IMO. No one in the East besides Jordan's Bulls could have won the Finals in the '90s. I am NOT sold on today's West below the Lake Show though.

[F_U_Buddy]

Yeah, you've gotta assume SOMEthing's amiss when the OP disappears after creating the thread.

I think most of you miss the point I was only officially discrediting one title I was merely making the observation that the east was considered a JV league when the Spurs were winning....and when the Lakers were winning that wasn't the prevailing thought of the day around the league. I don't know why folks get so dam emotional about it anyway...

[JoeTait75]

I think most of you miss the point I was only officially discrediting one title I was merely making the observation that the east was considered a JV league when the Spurs were winning....and when the Lakers were winning that wasn't the prevailing thought of the day around the league.

Bullshit.


I don't know why folks get so dam emotional about it anyway...

You started the thread, IIRC.

[hitmanyr2k]

L.A. beat outstanding Portland and Sacramento teams in the WC Playoffs, teams that were arguably as good or better than the 2004 Pistons.

It doesn't matter. No team that wins a Championship has to apologize for anything.

As for the conferences, the West top-to-bottom was better than the East from 1991 until 2008 IMO. No one in the East besides Jordan's Bulls could have won the Finals in the '90s. I am NOT sold on today's West below the Lake Show though.

I beg to differ. I can agree with '91 and '92. No one but the Bulls were beating the Lakers and the Blazers. In '93 I do believe the Knicks could have beaten the Suns. They had no one to match up with Ewing and NY's interior toughness makes things tough on Barkley. The '96 Magic had more than enough firepower to match with the Sonics. Same goes for the '97 Heat with Zo, Tim Hardaway, PJ Brown, Mashburn, and Majerle if they were to go against the Utah Jazz. The Pacers in '98 would have been a nice match-up with the Jazz as well. All of those Finals could have been great. Too bad we'll never know.

[JoeTait75]

Too bad we'll never know.

Not too bad for Bulls fans. :lol

[midnightpulp]

I think most of you miss the point I was only officially discrediting one title I was merely making the observation that the east was considered a JV league when the Spurs were winning....and when the Lakers were winning that wasn't the prevailing thought of the day around the league. I don't know why folks get so dam emotional about it anyway...

How old are you? It was the prevailing thought of the day. The Western Conference Finals were called the real NBA Finals whether it was in 2001 or 2003. No one gave Philly, Indy, or New Jersey a chance, or even the 04 Pistons, until they surprised everyone and nutted all over the "4 Hall of Famers" Lakers.

You are simply a fucking moron.

Stop posting.

[wijayas]

Spur Titles

* 1st - Knicks - ***Asterik***(shortened season 50 games)
2nd - New Jersey Nets
3rd - Detriot Pistons
4th - Cleveland Cavs

If your argument is correct, would you rather win against a JV league? Or would you rather lose to a JV league? 2004 No Super-Star Pistons vs. 5 HOF Lakers!!!!

You decide... :lol :lol :lol

[iggypop123]

we raped the east too. the nets werent even worthy. i dont know how they took the spurs 6 games a yr later and iverson had to have a career game just for them to win 1 game

[midnightpulp]

we raped the east too. the nets werent even worthy. i dont know how they took the spurs 6 games a yr later and iverson had to have a career game just for them to win 1 game

How did the Jailblazers take the 65-17 Lakers to 7 games when the Spurs swept those thugs a year earlier?

[ezau]

2004 Lakers lost to Pistons

2005 Spurs beat Pistons

:downspin:

fucking yeah. The Spurs beat the same team that cumberstomped the super Laker team of 04

[DazedAndConfused]

fucking yeah. The Spurs beat the same team that cumberstomped the super Laker team of 04

Did you forget that you also lost in the '04 playoffs to the team that got "curbstomped"?

[midnightpulp]

Did you forget that you also lost in the '04 playoffs to the team that got "curbstomped"?

One player usually can't manage to lose a series by himself, but Turkeyglue proved us all wrong, showing that once a King, always a King.

Maybe it's not all true, Parker was garbage the last 4 games of that series as well.

It's all good, though. I don't think the Spurs beat the Pistons anyhow.

[ezau]

Did you forget that you also lost in the '04 playoffs to the team that got "curbstomped"?

We beat the same team that cumberstomped you a year later. Happy? What do you mean beat by your team in 04? The fluke shot by Fisher is the only reason you guys made the Finals that year.

[Smooth Criminal]

Spur Titles

* 1st - Knicks - ***Asterik***(shortened season 50 games) Asterisk maybe?
2nd - New Jersey NetsSuck
3rd - Detriot Pistons Good
4th - Cleveland Cavs Suck

Laker Titles (before you start trying to give Kobe an asterisk because of Shaq consider this...Shaq had multiple teams with several ALL-STARS and couldn't win until Kobe came into his own. Shaq had none other than Nick Van Excel, Eddie Jones, Robert Horry, Cedric Ceballos, etc etc...Orlando Magic with -- Penny Hardaway who in his prime was a mutha fucker(Pick one, Mutha Fucka or Mother Fucker, don't mix it's gay., Nick Anderson, Dennis Scott etc...

1st Pacers (old school hard knock life opponent) Stop lying to yourself, they sucked. Lakers still got a ring, be happy with that.

2nd Sixers Suck

3rd Nets Suck
4th Magic Good

[DazedAndConfused]

We beat the same team that cumberstomped you a year later. Happy? What do you mean beat by your team in 04? The fluke shot by Fisher is the only reason you guys made the Finals that year.

As if Duncan's shot right before that wasn't a fluke as well? Hell I'd argue that Fisher's shot was the easier of the two to make. And before you start rambling about the shot clock not starting on time anyone with a DVR can clearly see that the Lakers should have been awarded 0.8 seconds on the clock instead of 0.4.

Furthermore, the 0.4 game was not the last game of that series. The Spurs didn't put up much of a fight in Game 6.

You Spur fans seem to enjoy whining and blaming all of your franchise losses on everything but the inferior play of your own team. The bottom line is the Lakers were better than the Spurs in 2004 and that's why they won that series.

[ezau]

As if Duncan's shot right before that wasn't a fluke as well? Hell I'd argue that Fisher's shot was the easier of the two to make. And before you start rambling about the shot clock not starting on time anyone with a DVR can clearly see that the Lakers should have been awarded 0.8 seconds on the clock instead of 0.4.

Furthermore, the 0.4 game was not the last game of that series. The Spurs didn't put up much of a fight in Game 6.

You Spur fans seem to enjoy whining and blaming all of your franchise losses on everything but the inferior play of your own team. The bottom line is the Lakers were better than the Spurs in 2004 and that's why they won that series.

so what happened in the Finals? a 4-1 drubbing by vastly unheralded Pistons team that the spurs beat a year later.

LOL Malone
LOL Payton
LOL Kobe
LOL Shaq

[DazedAndConfused]

so what happened in the Finals? a 4-1 drubbing by vastly unheralded Pistons team that the spurs beat a year later.

LOL Malone
LOL Payton
LOL Kobe
LOL Shaq

Why are you talking shit about an accomplishment ANOTHER team made when YOUR team got beaten by the Lakers? That's the epitome of stupidity.

[Chieflion]

Why are you talking shit about an accomplishment ANOTHER team made when YOUR team got beaten by the Lakers? That's the epitome of stupidity.
You have reading problems.

[Man In Black]

No, he can read. It's just that he has comprehension issues.

[DazedAndConfused]

You have reading problems.

You and your brethren apparently don't understand the rules of shit talking.

You can't talk shit about ANOTHER team's accomplishments over a team when YOUR team got beaten by said team.

[Chieflion]

No, he can read. It's just that he has comprehension issues.
I doubt it. He read the post wrongly. He can't read, period. He missed out something in the post.

[Chieflion]

You and your brethren apparently don't understand the rules of shit talking.

You can't talk shit about ANOTHER team's accomplishments over a team when YOUR team got beaten by said team.
Since when? Spurs beat Pistons in 2005. Lakers lose to said Pistons in 2004. Spurs > Pistons > Lakers. I can play that game too.

[Man In Black]

Ok aptly named,
Having said that, they why is it your brethren feels the need to start talking shit about the quality of Eastern Conference Teams during relatively the same period that your team couldn't either advance to meet or just plain beat?

Isn't the whole point of the OP is to talk shit about another team's accomplishments?

[ezau]

You and your brethren apparently don't understand the rules of shit talking.

You can't talk shit about ANOTHER team's accomplishments over a team when YOUR team got beaten by said team.

You moron. I'll make it simple so you can understand QueerandConfused.

2004- Lakers beat the Spurs. In the Finals, the Pistons hammered Hollywood's doll to submission via 4-1 drubbing.

2005- Now that same Pistons team that put that stacked Lakers team to shame was defeated by the Spurs in a thrilling seven-game series.

2004 was merely an aberration since the Lakers don't have any business in the Finals of that year.

[DazedAndConfused]

Ok aptly named,
Having said that, they why is it your brethren feels the need to start talking shit about the quality of Eastern Conference Teams during relatively the same period that your team couldn't either advance to meet or just plain beat?

Isn't the whole point of the OP is to talk shit about another team's accomplishments?

I hate to break it to you but the OP is clearly a troll. Probably a Mav fan in disguise if I had to guess.

[DazedAndConfused]

You moron. I'll make it simple so you can understand QueerandConfused.

2004- Lakers beat the Spurs. In the Finals, the Pistons hammered Hollywood's doll to submission via 4-1 drubbing.

2005- Now that same Pistons team that put that stacked Lakers team to shame was defeated by the Spurs in a thrilling seven-game series.

2004 was merely an aberration since the Lakers don't have any business in the Finals of that year.

So it was an aberration that the Lakers beat the Spurs 4-2 in the 2004 WCF?

Do Spurs fans really believe that?

[WalterSobchak]

So it was an aberration that the Lakers beat the Spurs 4-2 in the 2004 WCF?

Do Spurs fans really believe that?


Yes. If .04 was missed by Fish, Spurs win that series. But alas, lucky shot. That's basketball.

[ezau]

So it was an aberration that the Lakers beat the Spurs 4-2 in the 2004 WCF?

Do Spurs fans really believe that?

It was a fluke, no more no less. That's the reason they got faceraped by the Pistons in five games. They simply have no business playing in the Finals.

[Banzai]

thread was unnecessary.

[DazedAndConfused]

Yes. If .04 was missed by Fish, Spurs win that series. But alas, lucky shot. That's basketball.

Please tell me how Duncan hitting a fadeaway from the top of the key over a fully extended Shaq was any less lucky.

In comparison to that shot Fisher's was actually a lot easier to make.

[DazedAndConfused]

It was a fluke, no more no less. That's the reason they got faceraped by the Pistons in five games. They simply have no business playing in the Finals.

So it was a fluke that the Lakers won 4 games over the Spurs in the 2004 WCF?

This is what you seriously believe in your head?

[WalterSobchak]

So it was a fluke that the Lakers won 4 games over the Spurs in the 2004 WCF?

This is what you seriously believe in your head?


Yes, absolute fluke. You do realize luck is involved in winning a few games throughout any sport, right? Surely you have heard the term, "I'd rather be lucky then good" haven't you?

[baseline bum]

I beg to differ. I can agree with '91 and '92. No one but the Bulls were beating the Lakers and the Blazers. In '93 I do believe the Knicks could have beaten the Suns. They had no one to match up with Ewing and NY's interior toughness makes things tough on Barkley. The '96 Magic had more than enough firepower to match with the Sonics. Same goes for the '97 Heat with Zo, Tim Hardaway, PJ Brown, Mashburn, and Majerle if they were to go against the Utah Jazz. The Pacers in '98 would have been a nice match-up with the Jazz as well. All of those Finals could have been great. Too bad we'll never know.

The only one I agree with you on is the 98 Pacers. That team was light-years better than the old broken down one that made the Finals by default two years later. They became significantly weaker once they made Jalen Rose offensive option #1. As for the Knicks, no way they'd have the firepower to touch the 93 Suns. They didn't even have enough to take the '94 Rockets. As for the Magic, they were swept by the Rockets and Bulls, so it's hard to think they'd have a lot of success with a Sonics team that was probably just as good as the '95 Rockets and not that far of a step down from the Bulls.

[ezau]

So it was a fluke that the Lakers won 4 games over the Spurs in the 2004 WCF?

This is what you seriously believe in your head?

If Fishface missed his once-in-a-generation shot, series over. There is simply nothing the Lakers can do to get back in the series if he missed it. Meanwhie, no way that the Lakers are better than Spurs in that series as well. However, there's nothing we can do to outdo what Fishface did. He made his shot and that's it.

The loss was bitter for me but seeing the Lakers getting faceraped and double-penetrated by the Pistons in the Finals was more than enough vindication.

The best part is, Spurs beat the same Pistons team in the Finals one year later:toast

[baseline bum]

The fluke wasn't Fisher's shot. The Spurs blew their chances when Turkoglu crapped himself that series. The fluke was Minnesota losing their two point guards, thus giving LA an easy WCF matchup. A healthy TWolves team vs Detroit would have been a hell of a Finals.

[DazedAndConfused]

If Fishface missed his once-in-a-generation shot, series over. There is simply nothing the Lakers can do to get back in the series. No way that the Lakers are better than Spurs in that series. I don't mind it though, seeing them getting faceraped and double-penetrated by the Pistons in the Finals was more than enough.

What if Duncan missed his shot? Watch this video and tell me which shot was harder to hit? They were both fluke shots.

3TdZHffwOF8

[WalterSobchak]

What if Duncan missed his shot? Watch this video and tell me which shot was harder to hit? They were both fluke shots.

3TdZHffwOF8


No one is disagreeing with you dude. Shit happens. Relax

[ezau]

What if Duncan missed his shot? Watch this video and tell me which shot was harder to hit? They were both fluke shots.

3TdZHffwOF8

Both shots were fluke, but Fishface's was 1,000,000 x luckier than Duncan's.

[duhoh]

Troll quality is substantially reduced.

Wins are wins. Yes LAL has 15 banners compared to our 4, but then what? No one's whose important's opinion will think otherwise.

[admiralsnackbar]

No one is disagreeing with you dude. Shit happens. Relax

We're talking about unchecked aggression here, dude.

[exstatic]

The Spurs continually beat JV teams in the West 05-07. You even lose to one in 2006. Once the Lakers re-emerged the championships stopped. No surprise there.

And every single one of the Lakers finals opponents were better than the Cavs by a large margin.

Spurs beat two defending champions along the way: Lakers in 2003 and Pistons in 2005. Regardless, you play who you play. It's not our fault that the only non-JV team was us, and that the Lakers (obviously one of the JV teams from 2005-2007, and how are they the team of the decade if that is so?) were taking swan dives in the first or missing the playoffs altogether.

[Findog]

Congratulations on getting this thread to 7 pages.

http://greenfyre.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/hook-line-sinker-how-i-fell-for-a-phishing-scam.jpg

[WalterSobchak]

We're talking about unchecked aggression here, dude.


Lakers fans are being very un-dude.

[Findog]

I am a felcher.

[TheMime]

Lakers fans are being very un-dude.

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