View Full Version : Do we take in refugees?
Cant_Be_Faded
01-17-2010, 12:05 PM
Heard on the radio we're going to take in 9000 refugees from Haiti, here in the U.S.
Good idea or bad?
Marcus Bryant
01-17-2010, 12:36 PM
If critically injured, orphaned, etc...sure, good idea.
Frankly we wouldn't worry about whether or not we could take in poor people from around the world without the welfare state in place.
EmptyMan
01-17-2010, 12:36 PM
No.
Take care of your own citizens/state before you start worrying about foreigners.
Cant_Be_Faded
01-17-2010, 12:38 PM
Yeah dude on the radio was going on about how bad it was cuz its easy for a terraist to infiltrate us that way
Marcus Bryant
01-17-2010, 12:42 PM
Would we not want others to experience human liberty as we do?
And I'm not sure there were many jihadis in Haiti.
EmptyMan
01-17-2010, 12:44 PM
Experience human liberty by drawing resources away from actual citizens who put in their work only to have money taken out of their earnings every day.
No thanks.
Realistically, of course america will let them in. There is obviously enough space and enough funny money to take them all in.
spursncowboys
01-17-2010, 01:00 PM
Our foreign policy is not about investment, security, or maintaining resources. It's about feeling good about ourselves. There is always a group of Americans who we can legally require to pay for it.
Marcus Bryant
01-17-2010, 02:12 PM
Our foreign policy is not about investment, security, or maintaining resources. It's about feeling good about ourselves.
By squeezing off a few hundred billion $s worth of munitions in Central Asia and the ME.
Marcus Bryant
01-17-2010, 02:13 PM
I'd rather be taxed to pay for some seriously injured Haitians than to invade yet another sovereign state.
Marcus Bryant
01-17-2010, 02:14 PM
Experience human liberty by drawing resources away from actual citizens who put in their work
Americans, always closing the door after themselves.
TheProfessor
01-17-2010, 02:30 PM
Our foreign policy is not about investment, security, or maintaining resources. It's about feeling good about ourselves. There is always a group of Americans who we can legally require to pay for it.
The destabilization of an entire country not 700 miles from our border implicates some national security issues, the moral quandaries aside.
Marcus Bryant
01-17-2010, 03:06 PM
This country does need to stop seeing a terrorist behind every tree.
TheProfessor
01-17-2010, 03:10 PM
This country does need to stop seeing a terrorist behind every tree.
As long as there's political hay to be made from it, good luck.
spursncowboys
01-17-2010, 03:37 PM
I'd rather be taxed to pay for some seriously injured Haitians than to invade yet another sovereign state.
So you are ok with foreign policy as long as it doesn't benefit us and is not an investment of any kind? We export our beliefs and monies and deploy our soldiers as long as it is not to have lasting democracy and make our country safer.
baseline bum
01-17-2010, 03:45 PM
Sounds more like he's ok with aid as opposed to agression.
Marcus Bryant
01-17-2010, 06:34 PM
So you are ok with foreign policy as long as it doesn't benefit us and is not an investment of any kind?
Now wanton invasions by the Pentagon are "benefits" and "investments."
We export our beliefs and monies and deploy our soldiers as long as it is not to have lasting democracy and make our country safer.
The Wilsonian disease of adventurous wars to "spread democracy."
Anyways, on the grand list of state actions abroad, providing aid to a poor people, the poorest in the Western hemisphere, who just suffered a natural disaster of epic proportions, ranks near the bottom as something to be concerned about.
ploto
01-18-2010, 11:01 AM
I would much prefer our resources be used to help thousands of injured, destitute Haitians from a few hundred miles away than be used to kill thousands of Iraqi civilians half way across the world.
spursncowboys
01-18-2010, 11:54 AM
I would much prefer our resources be used to help thousands of injured, destitute Haitians from a few hundred miles away than be used to kill thousands of Iraqi civilians half way across the world.
WHo killed thousands of Iraqi civilians?
TheManFromAcme
01-18-2010, 12:43 PM
You take in the innocent of all innocents,...the little ones. Man, they have no concepf of politics or wars or any of the other problems that ill mankind.
spursncowboys
01-18-2010, 09:21 PM
You take in the innocent of all innocents,...the little ones. Man, they have no concepf of politics or wars or any of the other problems that ill mankind.
Take them in for what though? How would they be raised? Wherre would they go?
Marcus Bryant
01-18-2010, 09:27 PM
Adoption is allowed in the US, no?
cdcast
01-19-2010, 12:05 AM
Take them in for what though? How would they be raised? Wherre would they go?
Ask Angelina Jolie to adopt them all?
baseline bum
01-19-2010, 12:11 AM
Those out of work children could be given jobs assembling crap for Wal-Mart over there. Just expand NAFTA a bit. Two mud pies a day and one bathroom break.
Viva Las Espuelas
01-19-2010, 12:30 AM
I would much prefer our resources be used to help thousands of injured, destitute Haitians from a few hundred miles away than be used to kill thousands of Iraqi civilians half way across the world.
war is hell, dear.
Marcus Bryant
01-19-2010, 12:56 AM
Such an inevitability. Empire's gotta flex every once in a while, y'know?
And I'm not sure there were many jihadis in Haiti.
Yeah, they're all in Mexico.
ChumpDumper
01-19-2010, 04:27 AM
No.
Take care of your own citizens/state before you start worrying about foreigners.
Experience human liberty by drawing resources away from actual citizens who put in their work only to have money taken out of their earnings every day.
No thanks.
Our foreign policy is not about investment, security, or maintaining resources. It's about feeling good about ourselves. There is always a group of Americans who we can legally require to pay for it.
So you are ok with foreign policy as long as it doesn't benefit us and is not an investment of any kind? We export our beliefs and monies and deploy our soldiers as long as it is not to have lasting democracy and make our country safer.
WHo killed thousands of Iraqi civilians?
Take them in for what though? How would they be raised? Wherre would they go?
war is hell, dear."Compassionate conservatives."
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