Report: Cowboys Likely To Give Wade Phillips A Contract Extension

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http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=tsn-reportcowboyslikelyt&prov=tsn&type=lgns


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[TheProfessor]

Mike Florio, editor of ProFootballTalk.com and a SN contributor, says despite Schefter’s report, Phillips’ career is still on shaky ground given the outcome of today’s NFC divisional playoff game at Minnesota.

[slick'81]

i would be surprised if jerry doesnt give wade one more season and pick up his option

not that i would but i dont c jerry giving wade the heave ho after a 12-6 season

[BlackSwordsMan]

was that before or after this game?

[Spursfan092120]

I don't see an extension..I see Jerry letting him coach out his last season and then deciding, depending on the options.

[jag]

Wade would make a helluva defensive coordinator with Garrett running the offense. I wish they could just demote his fat ass, but sadly the NFL doesn't quite work like that.

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Wade would make a helluva defensive coordinator with Garrett running the offense. I wish they could just demote his fat ass, but sadly the NFL doesn't quite work like that.

I wonder if there was any discussion of that when Wade was hired. Everyone knew that JG was the head coach in waiting.

[Death In June]

Wade would make a helluva defensive coordinator with Garrett running the offense. I wish they could just demote his fat ass, but sadly the NFL doesn't quite work like that.You know that's exactly the situation, right?

[jag]

You know that's exactly the situation, right?

pardon?

[Death In June]

Wade acts as the defensive coordinator, and JG runs the offense. That's exactly how it is.

[Obstructed_View]

Wade acts as the defensive coordinator, and JG runs the offense. That's exactly how it is.

The point is finding a way to keep him as the defensive coordinator and to replace him as the head coach. I'm sure Wade would agree with calling it a "demotion".

[Death In June]

Why? The players are prepared, they give phillips a good effort every game. I don't understand why people want to switch.

[Obstructed_View]

Why?

Do you have anything productive to add to the conversation?

[Death In June]

I'm just pointing out, people want him gone and for what? There's no follow up. Where's the deficiency? You haven't said anything to that effect, and neither has anyone else.

[jag]

Why? The players are prepared, they give phillips a good effort every game. I don't understand why people want to switch.

Because Jerry Jones is the coach right now and they don't hand out trophies for regular season wins.

[Death In June]

Because Jerry Jones is the coach right now and they don't hand out trophies for regular season wins.And what are you basing this on? The media? Do you have anything to back up that claim?

[Obstructed_View]

I'm just pointing out, people want him gone and for what? There's no follow up. Where's the deficiency? You haven't said anything to that effect, and neither has anyone else.

Jag and I have been discussing exactly that in another thread. You seemed to wonder if everyone knew that he was the defensive coordinator. We do. Come on over to the other thread and talk about it with us. I've said basically the same thing you did, that it's hard to find a reason to fire him based upon the way the team played in the last few weeks. It doesn't change what he is, and has always been, as a head coach. Cowboys fans aren't really interested in waiting for the Peter Principle to catch up to him and cost the team another year when they've got some talent.

[Obstructed_View]

Actually we might as well stay here to discuss it. This is the more appropriate thread.

[jag]

Jag and I have been discussing exactly that in another thread. You seemed to wonder if everyone knew that he was the defensive coordinator. We do. Come on over to the other thread and talk about it with us. I've said basically the same thing you did, that it's hard to find a reason to fire him based upon the way the team played in the last few weeks. It doesn't change what he is, and has always been, as a head coach. Cowboys fans aren't really interested in waiting for the Peter Principle to catch up to him and cost the team another year when they've got some talent.

We may disagree about the reasonings behind his removal as HC, but i can agree with you here.

My view (again): He doesn't command respect. The players may play hard for him, but it's not because he demands it, it's because they are in the mood to. He has to demand perfection from his guys, they need to play hard because anything else is just unacceptable.

Players don't like playing for a hard ass until things actually get hard...then they realize they're prepared for it. These guys aren't mentally tough, and Phillips isn't going to bring that toughness.

Something's missing, and it definitely isn't talent

[Death In June]

There are different styles of coaching. Tony Doungey wasn't a hard ass. He wasn't constantly screaming and yelling, or acting like a fool on the sidelines. Yet he won a super bowl. On the cowboys not being mentally tough, I think they showed mental toughness all season, most recently when they were down 0-2 to start december, and rebounded by winning four straight.

[Obstructed_View]

Here's a good reason (to me) to fire him. First quarter, you have momentum, you get a 4th and 1 at the 32, you are moving the ball at will and are establishing some rhythm, yet the coach sends in an unproven kicker to try a 49 yard field goal. He misses and you lose the points and the field position battle.

[Udokafan05]

Hire Cowher, make Phillips the DC, and fire Garret

[samikeyp]

:bang :bang :bang

Great...another season of Wade in the Headlights. :depressed

[Duff McCartney]

Another year of the Cowboys being an also ran in the NFL. Mediocrity at it's finest. I don't see the point of extending Wade. You know what you're gonna get from him...if his record means anything..at worst you'll get a loss in your first game in the playoffs...at best you'll win one playoff game. It looks to me like Jerry Jones is fine with that. I'm not.

The problem as was stated before is that the Cowboys have the talent, just have no mental toughness or discipline as a ball club. Tony Romo..a goat. Proving time and time again that the big game is just not for him..he collapses.

[StylisticS]

Here's a good reason (to me) to fire him. First quarter, you have momentum, you get a 4th and 1 at the 32, you are moving the ball at will and are establishing some rhythm, yet the coach sends in an unproven kicker to try a 49 yard field goal. He misses and you lose the points and the field position battle.

you know the reason why he didn't go for it on 4th and 1? Because he said it wasn't. No lie. He said it in his PC. That made me angry. The Ticket played it earlier today and all I did was laugh.

[StylisticS]

The problem as was stated before is that the Cowboys have the talent, just have no mental toughness or discipline as a ball club. Tony Romo..a goat. Proving time and time again that the big game is just not for him..he collapses.

He's performed well in big games this year. He was not the problem yesterday. His inconsistent coordinator and his terrible line protecting him let him down.

[King]

Hire Cowher, make Phillips the DC, and fire Garret

If you dictate who the assistants are to the head coach, you're completely undermining the head coach - who will probably want his staff. It's the exact same issue there was when Garrett was hired before Phillips.

Jones is the head coach - like it or not. Wade can have the title, but he doesn't call shots. He can't discipline the players without running it through Jerry. He doesn't have final say in personnel. He's a defensive coordinator with a hefty salary and a fake title. And any "head coach" who is brought in here will deal with the exact same thing.

The Cowboys are handcuffed until Jerry dies.

[ShoogarBear]

Cowboys Likely To Give Wade Phillips A Contract Extension


Yes, please God.


yet the coach sends in an unproven kicker to try a 49 yard field goal.

Shaun Squeezem!

:elephant :elephant

[Obstructed_View]

you know the reason why he didn't go for it on 4th and 1? Because he said it wasn't. No lie. He said it in his PC. That made me angry. The Ticket played it earlier today and all I did was laugh.

That's actually a better reason to fire him than the fact that he didn't go for it. That kind of refusal to step up and take responsibility is why I didn't like him when he was the coach in Buffalo or Denver. It's a very gutless Dave Campo thing to do.

[Whisky Dog]

I'm hearing 3 yr extension going through 2012. Great. We're fucked.

I like the guy as a D coordinator but without discipline we'll be in the same spot next year getting canned by a better coached, more disciplined and motivated team in the divisional round at best.

[san antonio spurs]

If you all agree that he is a great DC, and we know for a fact that your defense dominated the last few weeks and also kept you in the game against the vikes; it's your offense that did you in. And you all seem to say that he has no oversight on that side of the ball.
Maybe by giving him an extension, Jerry is telling everybody in that lockeroom (especially Garrett) that Wade is THE MAN.
Maybe Wade promised him that if he's given respect (keep in mind Jason Garett makes more than him) the entire football team will perform better.

[Whisky Dog]

If you all agree that he is a great DC, and we know for a fact that your defense dominated the last few weeks and also kept you in the game against the vikes; it's your offense that did you in. And you all seem to say that he has no oversight on that side of the ball.
Maybe by giving him an extension, Jerry is telling everybody in that lockeroom (especially Garrett) that Wade is THE MAN.
Maybe Wade promised him that if he's given respect (keep in mind Jason Garett makes more than him) the entire football team will perform better.

:lmao Wade commanding respect. You made me laugh

[LOL texans]

:lmao Cowboys getting another year of Wade

[slick'81]

a possible 3 year extension wtf ?!?!

[Spurtacus]

Bring back Jimmy Johnson.

[LakerHater]

a possible 3 year extension wtf ?!?!

This Guy's celebrating already!!


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[ShoogarBear]

:danceclub:

Jerry needs another good yes man in the FO. I heard Vinny Cerrato is available.

[Death In June]

I'm hearing 3 yr extension going through 2012. Great. We're fucked.

I like the guy as a D coordinator but without discipline we'll be in the same spot next year getting canned by a better coached, more disciplined and motivated team in the divisional round at best.I thought all these claims of undisciplined and unmotivated would die this year, especially after the team showed that they really tried and wanted to win every game. They were never unprepared for a game, and they certainly weren't undisciplined, not in the way the 95 cowboys were undisciplined. Not in the slightest. They had some penalties, but they seemed like penalties that were brought on by trying too hard rather than not trying at all. Wade's got this country bumpkin disposition that makes him easy to hate. There's no evidence that the team wasn't motivated, or undisciplined, but the coach is nearly spherical and looks like a dope and so he therefore must be doing a bad job.

[jag]

I thought all these claims of undisciplined and unmotivated would die this year, especially after the team showed that they really tried and wanted to win every game. They were never unprepared for a game, and they certainly weren't undisciplined, not in the way the 95 cowboys were undisciplined. Not in the slightest. They had some penalties, but they seemed like penalties that were brought on by trying too hard rather than not trying at all. Wade's got this country bumpkin disposition that makes him easy to hate. There's no evidence that the team wasn't motivated, or undisciplined, but the coach is nearly spherical and looks like a dope and so he therefore must be doing a bad job.

You want some empirical evidence that Wade is a soft-ass? It doesn't work like that. Perception is reality. Not one person ever wondered who was calling the shots under Parcells. Those players don't fear Wade, they fear Jerry.

[samikeyp]

In the Vikings game....they faced adversity for the first time in a month and cratered. That is a reflection of the coaching staff.

[jag]

In the Vikings game....they faced adversity for the first time in a month and cratered. That is a reflection of the coaching staff.

I dont think it's about that one game. The Cowboys had to beat the Eagles three times over the course of the season, and they did so decisively.

My problem is the inconsistency. The inability to take it to a new level and keep it there. He's not getting the most out of the players he's been given.

[samikeyp]

I dont think it's about that one game. The Cowboys had to beat the Eagles three times over the course of the season, and they did so decisively.

My problem is the inconsistency. The inability to take it to a new level and keep it there. He's not getting the most out of the players he's been given.

The Vikings game was one example...I agree with you though, the inconsistency is worse.

[leemajors]

I don't know how much Wade is to blame for the O-Line sucking balls vs. the Vikings. Garrett needs to be held accountable for something at some point by JJ. The line's inconsistency has been maddening since Sparano left.

[Horry For 3!]

They said Jerry Jones did it just in case there is a lockout in the NFL. Also that Phillips did a good job this year in getting them the division and a playoff win.

[leemajors]

Option picked up, and one year added. No three year extension.

[Obstructed_View]

You want some empirical evidence that Wade is a soft-ass? It doesn't work like that. Perception is reality. Not one person ever wondered who was calling the shots under Parcells. Those players don't fear Wade, they fear Jerry.

Having Jerry finally show a united front with the coaching staff by getting rid of Adam Jones and TO helped locker room chemistry a lot this year. It's possible that with a more drama-free environment Wade will be adequate because all he has to do is run the defense and not make retarded decisions.

[Bigzax]

jerry's best shot at a superbowl in his stadium next year is to retain wade.

the extra year is like a bonus for a job well done this year and to not have a lame duck coach next year in appearance.

although, if you get blown out in the playoffs again, i don't think there is any doubt that jones gets your new coach year after next...

[Obstructed_View]

jerry's best shot at a superbowl in his stadium next year is to retain wade.

the extra year is like a bonus for a job well done this year and to not have a lame duck coach next year in appearance.

although, if you get blown out in the playoffs again, i don't think there is any doubt that jones gets your new coach year after next...

And it looks like Bill Cowher is willing to take CBS' money for one more year while he waits for Jerry to make a decision on Wade.

[Bigzax]

Cowher is just waiting for Carolina to open up...wants to be with his family.


Fox making the playoffs next year is the only thing that will throw a wrench in that...

link (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4813290)

[jag]

Having Jerry finally show a united front with the coaching staff by getting rid of Adam Jones and TO helped locker room chemistry a lot this year. It's possible that with a more drama-free environment Wade will be adequate because all he has to do is run the defense and not make retarded decisions.

True. But the roller-coaster like play has got to stop. Romo was incredibly consistent throughout the year, so he can no longer serve as the whipping boy for the team shutting it down every other game. I never have any idea what to expect from this team.

The nice guy routine hasnt worked. I just think it'd be nice if Dallas went another route with the coaching.