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crc21209
01-19-2010, 01:00 AM
Brown and Farmar are the MVP's of this game tonight...:lol

Allanon
01-19-2010, 01:01 AM
So LeBron has the better supporting cast?

Oh and that effect you speak of is due to PJax, not Kobe. Kobe isn't exactly known for making his teammates better. In the non PJax Kobe era, the role players legitimately played poorly but PJax is the best there has ever been at making role players play above their heads.

Kobe wasn't known for making teammates better in his earlier years..

But now he is probably the best in the game at making his teammates better. Recent GM survey puts Kobe at the #2 NBA leader and I agree. Kobe's supreme work ethic is contagious.

LeBron has a far superior cast. Shaq, Mo Williams, Delonte, Big Z, Anthony Parker, Verajao...all very solid players.

LeBron's gonna have 2-3 All Stars this year on the Cavs. Lakers will only have Kobe.

It's not surprising that if the Lakers lose, it's Kobe's fault. But if the Lakers win, it's due to Phil Jackson.

lil_penny
01-19-2010, 01:01 AM
The only requirement to get minutes on Van Gundy's team is to chuck 3's at a low %.. if you can do that your guaranteed minutes.

So true lol

He needs to sign me, I once went 2 for 8 in a 24 hour fitness pick up game.. ill play for cheap!

crc21209
01-19-2010, 01:01 AM
I thought only the Spurs had that stupid "everybody clap your hands" garbage :lol

No one ever claps.

Every damn team uses that...

himat
01-19-2010, 01:01 AM
If Magic passed the ball to Dwight more they would be SOOOO much better.

ChrisRichards
01-19-2010, 01:01 AM
That's where you're wrong. Badly.
He's right. The triangle offense made all these players better, not Kobe.


Its no secret when Phil Jackson left, Kobe and the 2004-2005 Lakers are worst statistically.

crc21209
01-19-2010, 01:02 AM
Gasol carrying Kobe....his back hurts! :lol

Banzai
01-19-2010, 01:03 AM
Good game.

himat
01-19-2010, 01:03 AM
Game over.

himat
01-19-2010, 01:04 AM
I hope this is like the Cavs Jazz game. Cavs were up 6 with 30 seconds before the Jazz came back.

Allanon
01-19-2010, 01:05 AM
Does anybody actually think the Lakers are really going to lose this game?

timvp
01-19-2010, 01:05 AM
LeBron's gonna have 2-3 All Stars this year on the Cavs.

Who? :lol

Mo Williams I guess has a chance if that mistake wants to be repeated. But probably won't make it. Who else?

DazedAndConfused
01-19-2010, 01:05 AM
You guys just can't stop talking about Kobe can you? You're absolutely obsessed with the man.

As a Laker fan the only thing that matters to me is the W. You all can debate the MJ > Kobe shit till you die. It's all you can do.

ChrisRichards
01-19-2010, 01:06 AM
Who? :lol

Mo Williams I guess has a chance if that mistake wants to be repeated. But probably won't make it. Who else?
Exactly, but even Mo would not make it this year.

Allanon
01-19-2010, 01:06 AM
Who? :lol

Mo Williams I guess has a chance if that mistake wants to be repeated. But probably won't make it. Who else?

Mo Williams is pretty much a lock to make it and Shaq is still the best Center in the East after Dwight.

himat
01-19-2010, 01:06 AM
Who? :lol

Mo Williams I guess has a chance if that mistake wants to be repeated. But probably won't make it. Who else?

The Big Cactus:lol:lol

timvp
01-19-2010, 01:06 AM
You guys just can't stop talking about Kobe can you? You're absolutely obsessed with the man.

As a Laker fan the only thing that matters to me is the W. You all can debate the MJ > Kobe shit till you die. It's all you can do.

Cool story bro.

blkroadrunners
01-19-2010, 01:06 AM
Will T-Mac's cousin pull a T-Mac??

himat
01-19-2010, 01:06 AM
Mo Williams is pretty much a lock to make it and Shaq is still the best Center in the East after Dwight.

What about Al Horford or Brook Lopez.

Goran Dragic
01-19-2010, 01:06 AM
Jesus Christ Shannon Brown stays in the air forever.

crc21209
01-19-2010, 01:06 AM
:lol at VC finally deciding to make a shot..

21_Blessings
01-19-2010, 01:07 AM
He's known for making teammates better?

If you actually watched basketball and the Lakers the last ten years, then yes.

82games.com did a good statistical analysis on Kobe's impact in improving his teammates a while back if you're one of those that never watched the Lakers.

I guess if you formed all your opinions based on what talking heads like Jon Berry say on ESPN I could see why one would think Kobe doesn't make his teammates better.

crc21209
01-19-2010, 01:07 AM
Come on Lakers...the people in the cheap seats (the real fans since the movie stars take up the lower level) want tacos! :lol

Chieflion
01-19-2010, 01:08 AM
They start hitting shots when the game is about over.

TJastal
01-19-2010, 01:08 AM
Who? :lol

Mo Williams I guess has a chance if that mistake wants to be repeated. But probably won't make it. Who else?

Allanon with one of his patented brain farts

timvp
01-19-2010, 01:08 AM
Mo Williams is pretty much a lock to make it and Shaq is still the best Center in the East after Dwight.

10 and 6 Shaq is going to be an All-Star? :lol The only way Williams makes it is because of the record ... but I would be he doesn't make it.

Allanon
01-19-2010, 01:08 AM
What about Al Horford or Brook Lopez.

I think Shaq is still better than both Al Horford and Brook Lopez.

Donkeybong
01-19-2010, 01:09 AM
it's obvious kobe aint right. i wouldnt mind he if he skipped this year's all star game.

Goran Dragic
01-19-2010, 01:09 AM
I think Shaq is still better than both Al Horford and Brook Lopez.


This year he isn't.

ChrisRichards
01-19-2010, 01:09 AM
If you actually watched basketball and the Lakers the last ten years, then yes.

82games.com did a good statistical analysis on Kobe's impact in improving his teammates a while back if you're one of those that never watched the Lakers.

I guess if you formed all your opinions based on what what Jon Berry says on TV I could see why one would think Kobe doesn't make his teammates better.
Again

Its Phil Jackson and his triangle that did this.



You put Mike Brown in LA and we'll see how good/efficient the Lakers are offensively.

HarlemHeat37
01-19-2010, 01:09 AM
I can't tell if Allanon is a troll or he takes himself seriously..his posts have been horrible for the last few months, ever since he stated he supports child molestation..

blkroadrunners
01-19-2010, 01:09 AM
Come on Lakers...the people in the cheap seats (the real fans since the movie stars take up the lower level) want tacos! :lol

Just go to Jack-in-the-box. 2 for $1.:downspin:

HarlemHeat37
01-19-2010, 01:10 AM
LOL @ 21_blessings bringing up an 82games.com research for an argument, but dismissing their research when they provided us with Kobe's clutch stats..

Allanon
01-19-2010, 01:10 AM
10 and 6 Shaq is going to be an All-Star? :lol The only way Williams makes it is because of the record ... but I would be he doesn't make it.

Perhaps not, I did say possibly. Mo Williams will make his 2nd All Star appearance.

Only Kobe's going to make the All Star team for the Lakers.

But I do think Shaq is still the 2nd best Center in the East.

KidCongo
01-19-2010, 01:10 AM
Shannon Brown was on his last chance in the NBA. Didn't make it on the Bulls or the Bobcats either. Never fitted with Cleveland and wouldn't work hard enough in the gym to get better. His livelihood was on the line and guess what he did something about it finally.

Shaq is not the 2nd best centre in the east and Mo will only get in as injury replacement if he plays as an All-Star this year.

midnightpulp
01-19-2010, 01:10 AM
Good performance by the Lakers bench tonight. When they contribute, the Lakers are pretty much unbeatable.

I_Speak_4_Dallas_Fan
01-19-2010, 01:11 AM
Carter just nailed one. :lmao

Allanon
01-19-2010, 01:11 AM
This year he isn't.

Of Shaq, Brook and Horford, Shaq's the last one I want to see in the Playoffs.

crc21209
01-19-2010, 01:11 AM
:lol at VC with ANOTHER 3! :lol

redzero
01-19-2010, 01:11 AM
Oh, NOW Vince Carter wants to make his 3-pointers.

himat
01-19-2010, 01:11 AM
10 and 6 Shaq is going to be an All-Star? :lol The only way Williams makes it is because of the record ... but I would be he doesn't make it.

Wade and AI will start...

Derrick Rose, Rajon Rondo, Ray Allen all deserve to be in over him

himat
01-19-2010, 01:11 AM
Magic don't quit.

crc21209
01-19-2010, 01:11 AM
And VC comes back down to Earth...:lol

TJastal
01-19-2010, 01:12 AM
I love Matt Barnes.. what a classy guy who hustles his ass off.

crc21209
01-19-2010, 01:12 AM
Sorry bitches, no tacos tonight...

I_Speak_4_Dallas_Fan
01-19-2010, 01:12 AM
:lmao Carter

himat
01-19-2010, 01:12 AM
And VC comes back down to Earth...:lol

Tough shot, but still funny.:lol

Chieflion
01-19-2010, 01:12 AM
Matt Barnes dived out to save the ball or see the Laker girls?

ChrisRichards
01-19-2010, 01:12 AM
Perhaps not, I did say possibly. Mo Williams will make his 2nd All Star appearance.

Only Kobe's going to make the All Star team for the Lakers.

But I do think Shaq is still the 2nd best Center in the East.
Pau Gasol is not going to be an All Star?


WTF???!!!

I_Speak_4_Dallas_Fan
01-19-2010, 01:13 AM
26 home games. :lmao

crc21209
01-19-2010, 01:13 AM
I love Cocaine! Errr..I mean L.A! :lol

Banzai
01-19-2010, 01:13 AM
I can sleep well tonight..considering I slept only 3 hrs last night.

FkLA
01-19-2010, 01:13 AM
Fools gold, everyone will undoubtedly stroke the Lakers dick after this win though even if it was against an underachieving and struggling Magic team. Lakers have gotten their asses not just beat but absolutely raped against real competition though...Cavs, Thuggets, Spurs, Blazers, etc. Nevermind the fact that their home to road games ratio is like 15:1. This team is no better and has been just as inconsistant as the rest of the West they just happen to have the easiest schedule.

Also lol at Laker fans that where crying and bringing up the excuse of Gaysol being out while Bynum was putting up 20/10 games, completely overlooking and not factoring in the fact that Bynum doesnt put up those numbers with Gaysol in there and instead turns into a depressed teenage girl.

Allanon
01-19-2010, 01:13 AM
Pau Gasol is not going to be an All Star?


WTF???!!!

No 3rd All Star for Pau this year.

Amare, Duncan, Dirk, Kaman

Of course, this isn't official, I'm just guessing.

hitmanyr2k
01-19-2010, 01:13 AM
Nothing worse than seeing losers talking after the game and laughing it up with players of the other team. I miss the rivalries and the days where teams hated each other's guts :lol

Donkeybong
01-19-2010, 01:13 AM
Shannon Brown was on his last chance in the NBA. Didn't make it on the Bulls or the Bobcats either. Never fitted with Cleveland and wouldn't work hard enough in the gym to get better. His livelihood was on the line and guess what he did something about it finally.

Shaq is not the 2nd best centre in the east and Mo will only get in as injury replacement if he plays as an All-Star this year.

Kobe's influence? :downspin:

Chieflion
01-19-2010, 01:14 AM
Pau Gasol is not going to be an All Star?


WTF???!!!
Duncan, Dirk, Melo and Durant make up the forwards. The wild card will probably be a guy like Zach.

timvp
01-19-2010, 01:14 AM
Wade and AI will start...

Derrick Rose, Rajon Rondo, Ray Allen all deserve to be in over him

Not to mention Joe Johnson. LeBron will have to write on his shoes again and they'll have to be an injury for Mo to make it.

iggypop123
01-19-2010, 01:14 AM
Shannon Brown was on his last chance in the NBA. Didn't make it on the Bulls or the Bobcats either. Never fitted with Cleveland and wouldn't work hard enough in the gym to get better. His livelihood was on the line and guess what he did something about it finally.

Shaq is not the 2nd best centre in the east and Mo will only get in as injury replacement if he plays as an All-Star this year.

he destroyed us in a OT victory with the bobcats. larry brown does it again!

crc21209
01-19-2010, 01:14 AM
26 home games. :lmao

Talk about the league trying to get the Lakers off to a good start..

Chieflion
01-19-2010, 01:14 AM
No 3rd All Star for Pau this year.

Amare, Duncan, Dirk, Kaman
Amare is listed as center for the all star game.

iggypop123
01-19-2010, 01:14 AM
Duncan, Dirk, Melo and Durant make up the forwards. The wild card will probably be a guy like Zach.

you would put amare over gasol?

KidCongo
01-19-2010, 01:15 AM
Of Shaq, Brook and Horford, Shaq's the last one I want to see in the Playoffs.

I'm banking on Shaq taking it to another level in the playoffs. His all-star form from last year would be great.

Allanon
01-19-2010, 01:15 AM
Amare is listed as center for the all star game.

Yeah, it's Amare, Duncan, Dirk, Melo, Kaman, ZBo at the 6 Forward/Center spots.

Chieflion
01-19-2010, 01:15 AM
you would put amare over gasol?
I explained that Amare was listed as center for the all star game. We know Kaman will be backup center.

redzero
01-19-2010, 01:15 AM
I can sleep well tonight..considering I slept only 3 hrs last night.

Those Avatar .gifs are distracting as fuck. Are you attracted to the Na'vi?

Donkeybong
01-19-2010, 01:16 AM
I'm banking on Shaq taking it to another level in the playoffs. His all-star form from last year would be great.

shaq has something left. he's gonna have a big impact in the playoffs.

KidCongo
01-19-2010, 01:16 AM
Kobe's influence? :downspin:

Or the fact that he was wasting away any talent he had and a shot at setting himself and his family up for life with millions.

ChrisRichards
01-19-2010, 01:16 AM
Coaches will vote Gasol before they vote Melo and ZBO.

Banzai
01-19-2010, 01:16 AM
Those Avatar .gifs are distracting as fuck. Are you attracted to the Na'vi?

good night!:rollin

baseline bum
01-19-2010, 01:17 AM
Man, I fucking hate the Magic, and Carter is a disgrace to the NBA. To think 10 years ago he and Bryant were once considered equal prospects is unreal. What an enormous waste Carter's career has been since about '01-'02.

Allanon
01-19-2010, 01:18 AM
Coaches will vote Gasol before they vote Melo and ZBO.

We'll know on Thursday.

Melo and ZBo have much better stats than Pau and both are powering their team to the Playoffs.

KidCongo
01-19-2010, 01:18 AM
Those Avatar .gifs are distracting as fuck. Are you attracted to the Na'vi?

How's those people suffering from the 'Avatar blues'.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/Movies/01/11/avatar.movie.blues/index.html

HarlemHeat37
01-19-2010, 01:18 AM
Kobe was a -3 tonight, while Gasol was a +7..what a surprise..

Chieflion
01-19-2010, 01:18 AM
We'll know on Thursday.

Melo and ZBo have much better stats than Pau and both are powering their team to the Playoffs.
Besides that, Gasol missed about half the season thus far. He won't make it.

Allanon
01-19-2010, 01:19 AM
I'm banking on Shaq taking it to another level in the playoffs. His all-star form from last year would be great.

Shaq's saving himself for the Playoffs.

Even right now, you can't cover him with just 2 dudes...you usually have to bring a 3rd defender to stop Shaq.

crc21209
01-19-2010, 01:19 AM
We'll know on Thursday.

Melo and ZBo have much better stats than Pau and both are powering their team to the Playoffs.

Actually we wont know on Thursday. Only the Starters are announced on Thursday, with the Reserves being announced next week..

blkroadrunners
01-19-2010, 01:19 AM
We'll know on Thursday.

Melo and ZBo have much better stats than Pau and both are powering their team to the Playoffs.

This week we know the starters. Next week, they'll annouce the reserves.

redzero
01-19-2010, 01:19 AM
How's those people suffering from the 'Avatar blues'.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/Movies/01/11/avatar.movie.blues/index.html

Well, that's retarded.

Allanon
01-19-2010, 01:20 AM
Actually we wont know on Thursday. Only the Starters are announced on Thursday, with the Reserves being announced next week..


This week we know the starters. Next week, they'll annouce the reserves.

Yup, my bad. We'll know soon :lol

iggypop123
01-19-2010, 01:20 AM
Kobe was a -3 tonight, while Gasol was a +7..what a surprise..

dwight howard was a -10. i dont get this. but at least it got one thing right: fisher -14

Allanon
01-19-2010, 01:20 AM
My main man Z-Bo is not even on the ballot.

Your boy Z-Bo's a lock as a coach's pick. 20/10 every friggin night and a Playoff seed just can't be denied.

hitmanyr2k
01-19-2010, 01:21 AM
dwight howard was a -10. i dont get this. but at least it got one thing right: fisher -14

Did you miss the 2nd half? The guy got 2 shots up and was in the game when LA went on their mega-run in the 4th.

ChrisRichards
01-19-2010, 01:23 AM
good night!:rollin
You get off with that Avatar chick? Sick, demented individual you are.

BadOdor
01-19-2010, 01:25 AM
You get off with that Avatar chick? Sick, demented individual you are.

Son he gets off with avatar chicks, you get off on kobe....why judge??!

iggypop123
01-19-2010, 01:25 AM
http://i34.tinypic.com/2nurp10.jpg

TJastal
01-19-2010, 01:25 AM
Man, I fucking hate the Magic, and Carter is a disgrace to the NBA. To think 10 years ago he and Bryant were once considered equal prospects is unreal. What an enormous waste Carter's career has been since about '01-'02.

?

Kobe had an equally bad game... share the hate.

Donkeybong
01-19-2010, 01:29 AM
?

Kobe had an equally bad game... share the hate.

the difference was kobe's shots weren't momentum killers.

Mike D
01-19-2010, 01:30 AM
Lol @ ChrisRichards

ChrisRichards
01-19-2010, 01:30 AM
Son he gets off with avatar chicks, you get off on kobe....why judge??!
You got it twisted son, Kobe homers does. I dont create a thread everytime Kobe scores 40 points on 30 shots lol.

baseline bum
01-19-2010, 01:30 AM
?

Kobe had an equally bad game... share the hate.

Kobe's a first ballot hall of famer and a top 10 player all-time who has lived up to the hype. Carter is a player who had everything in the world going for him and then became a jumpshooting pussy with no will to drive. It's like Charles Oakley scared him soft when he called him out in that series with Philly.

Allanon
01-19-2010, 01:31 AM
Honestly, I can't think of one big man playing better.

Z-Bo's just tearing shit up and WTF...he's even a good teammate.

HarlemHeat37
01-19-2010, 01:32 AM
Kobe took some bad shots too..he's fortunate that he has the best supporting cast in the NBA(by far)..

if Lebron was shooting like that, the Cavs would be done in the 1st quarter on most nights..thankfully The King doesn't have games like that very often..

FkLA
01-19-2010, 01:32 AM
Lakers just feasting on pretenders at home, no surprises here. Everyone will undoubtedly ignore the real facts as a result as well.

Nov 13 @ DEN
LOST 79-105

Dec 25 vs CLE
LOST 87-102

Jan 8 @ POR
LOST 98-107

Jan 12 @ SAS
LOST 85-105

Allanon
01-19-2010, 01:34 AM
Lakers just feasting on pretenders at home, no surprises here. Everyone will undoubtedly ignore the real facts as a result as well.

Nov 13 @ DEN
LOST 79-105

Dec 25 vs CLE
LOST 87-102

Jan 8 @ POR
LOST 98-107

Jan 12 @ SAS
LOST 85-105

Lakers just playing with their food.

HeyIt'sMe
01-19-2010, 01:34 AM
Bynum is a horrible defensive player. Did he get injured or did Phil get tired of watching Dwight look all-pro on offense against him?

Andrew Bynum
01-19-2010, 01:34 AM
Lakers just feasting on pretenders at home, no surprises here. Everyone will undoubtedly ignore the real facts as a result as well.

Nov 13 @ DEN
LOST 79-105

Dec 25 vs CLE
LOST 87-102

Jan 8 @ POR
LOST 98-107

Jan 12 @ SAS
LOST 85-105

No Pau in three of those four games..

Allanon
01-19-2010, 01:35 AM
Bynum is a horrible defensive player. Did he get injured or did Phil get tired of watching Dwight look all-pro on offense against him?

Dwight got shut down in the 2nd half.

ChrisRichards
01-19-2010, 01:36 AM
No Pau in three of those four games..
Yeah, but you were playing werent you? You worthless POS.

TheMACHINE
01-19-2010, 01:37 AM
LOL at the spurs fans staying up late to see the Lakers lose....buhahah

LOL at the fans talking about supporting cast.

Kobe teams win = Best supporting cast. Kobe teams lose = Kobe sucks.

Last time i checked Lebron has an ALL STAR cast and ended up with the Bronze Medal. Bring in Kobe..BAM! GOLD!. hahahha

suckers...cry more while you continue watching the Lakers pile on the rings... bitches.

HeyIt'sMe
01-19-2010, 01:40 AM
Dwight got shut down in the 2nd half.

Shut down by his teammates jacking threes. Besides, Bynum played like 5 minutes in the second half.

FkLA
01-19-2010, 01:40 AM
No Pau in three of those four games..

Yeah, but you were putting up 25 and 13 in those games instead of playing like a depressed teenage girl like you do when Gaysol is out there. That basically cancels that out.Lakeshow is feasting on weak oppostion and spineless pretender teams like the Mavettes...any real competition theyve faced they havent just lost theyve been raped.



Nov 13 @ DEN
LOST 79-105

Dec 25 vs CLE
LOST 87-102

Jan 8 @ POR
LOST 98-107

Jan 12 @ SAS
LOST 85-105

TheMACHINE
01-19-2010, 01:40 AM
Kobe took some bad shots too..he's fortunate that he has the best supporting cast in the NBA(by far)..



Thanks for the compliments. You've been saying how good the Lakers are ALL NIGHT. Are you sure u aint a Lakers fan?! U want to join the bandwagon...must be hard being a spurs fan huh.

iggypop123
01-19-2010, 01:42 AM
bynums play was sickening tonight but i didnt know that sick!

http://twitter.com/KevinDing/status/7936412332

Mike D
01-19-2010, 01:45 AM
This thread was reasonable until the Lakers fell behind Orlando in the 3rd, at which point in exploded. Trolling run wild.

The fact that the Lakers rolled back and ran away with the game makes it all look so funny.

Allanon
01-19-2010, 01:47 AM
Kobe teams win = Best supporting cast. Kobe teams lose = Kobe sucks.

Last time i checked Lebron has an ALL STAR cast and ended up with the Bronze Medal. Bring in Kobe..BAM! GOLD!. hahahha

Machine with the TRUTH on all counts.

blkroadrunners
01-19-2010, 01:47 AM
Kobe's a first ballot hall of famer and a top 10 player all-time who has lived up to the hype. Carter is a player who had everything in the world going for him and then became a jumpshooting pussy with no will to drive. It's like Charles Oakley scared him soft when he called him out in that series with Philly.

Injuries have really screwed him over in his later-Toronto years, but even after that, he's had a really nice career in New Jersey.

HeyIt'sMe
01-19-2010, 01:47 AM
bynums play was sickening tonight but i didnt know that sick!

http://twitter.com/KevinDing/status/7936412332

Sick is another way of saying Howard was killing him.

iggypop123
01-19-2010, 01:49 AM
The muthoerfuccer should have took a shit before the game, instead of on the court.

:lmao

ChrisRichards
01-19-2010, 01:51 AM
:lol@lakaluva

timvp
01-19-2010, 01:53 AM
Laker fan can't take a compliment. The Lakers are a great team. Kobe is now a legit great player -- has to be considered a top two shooting guard ever. The supporting cast is great. They have the best coach of all-time. The Lakers are by far the favorites to win the championship. There's no way they don't end up with the first seed in the WC.

I apologize in advance for those opinions since they obviously don't follow the correct Laker Fan Talking Points or whatever. Next time I'll stick with "the supporting cast sucks it's all kobeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!1!!!one!!!!!!lolrape!!!!! !".

Mike D
01-19-2010, 01:56 AM
Laker fan can't take a compliment. The Lakers are a great team. Kobe is now a legit great player -- has to be considered a top two shooting guard ever. The supporting cast is great. They have the best coach of all-time. The Lakers are by far the favorites to win the championship. There's no way they don't end up with the first seed in the WC.

I apologize in advance for those opinions since they obviously don't follow the correct Laker Fan Talking Points or whatever.

Lakers won tonight despite a poor performance by Kobe.

As PJax said, credit the bench and other guys stepping up.

Some people lose sight of who they are cheering for. I'll take a win with a bad performance over a brilliant one in a defeat.

Allanon
01-19-2010, 01:57 AM
Laker fan can't take a compliment. The Lakers are a great team. Kobe is now a legit great player -- has to be considered a top two shooting guard ever. The supporting cast is great. They have the best coach of all-time. The Lakers are by far the favorites to win the championship. There's no way they don't end up with the first seed in the WC.

I apologize in advance for those opinions since they obviously don't follow the correct Laker Fan Talking Points or whatever. Next time I'll stick with "the supporting cast sucks it's all kobeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!1!!!one!!!!!!lolrape!!!!! !".

Good to see you're back to your old Laker fan lovin' shenanigans timvp.

Andrew Bynum
01-19-2010, 02:08 AM
Yeah, but you were putting up 25 and 13 in those games instead of playing like a depressed teenage girl like you do when Gaysol is out there. That basically cancels that out.Lakeshow is feasting on weak oppostion and spineless pretender teams like the Mavettes...any real competition theyve faced they havent just lost theyve been raped.



Nov 13 @ DEN
LOST 79-105

Dec 25 vs CLE
LOST 87-102

Jan 8 @ POR
LOST 98-107

Jan 12 @ SAS
LOST 85-105

:lol So since I had decent games that cancels out the fact three of those four LA played without their second best player? Not to mention he's missed 17 games and LA still has the best record in the league.

You shouldn't be talking anyways, Lakers 26 home games, Spurs 23. Three games difference! That's huge! What's the Spurs record against team 500 or better?

FkLA
01-19-2010, 02:22 AM
:lol So since I had decent games that cancels out the fact three of those four LA played without their second best player? Not to mention he's missed 17 games and LA still has the best record in the league.

You shouldn't be talking anyways, Lakers 26 home games, Spurs 23. Three games difference! That's huge! What's the Spurs record against team 500 or better?

Pretty much son, your increased production without Gaysol basically offsets the fact that Gaysol isnt there. I would agree with your Gaysol excuse only if you continued playing like a depressed teenage girl when he was injured but you actually step up and fill that void so that excuse is garbage...much like Dejuanito Blair's 28 pt 23 reb game against the Thunda making up for Timmy's absence.

But if we're going to make injury excuses, 2009 playoffs...Yao injured for Rockets, Ginobili injured for Spurs, Nelson injured for Magic, KG injured for Celtics, etc. What does that say about your 2009 title, is it tarnished?

Nov 13 @ DEN
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Dec 25 vs CLE
LOST 87-102

Jan 8 @ POR
LOST 98-107

Jan 12 @ SAS
LOST 85-105

HarlemHeat37
01-19-2010, 02:24 AM
:lol So since I had decent games that cancels out the fact three of those four LA played without their second best player? Not to mention he's missed 17 games and LA still has the best record in the league.

You shouldn't be talking anyways, Lakers 26 home games, Spurs 23. Three games difference! That's huge! What's the Spurs record against team 500 or better?

How was your shit?..

Andrew Bynum
01-19-2010, 02:30 AM
Pretty much son, your increased production without Gaysol basically offsets the fact that Gaysol isnt there. I would agree with your Gaysol excuse only if you continued playing like a depressed teenage girl when he was injured but you actually step up and fill that void so that excuse is garbage...much like Dejuanito Blair's 28 pt 23 reb game against the Thunda making up for Timmy's absence.

But if we're going to make injury excuses, 2009 playoffs...Yao injured for Rockets, Ginobili injured for Spurs, Nelson injured for Magic, KG injured for Celtics, etc. What does that say about your 2009 title, is it tarnished?

:lol Changing the subject so fast are we?

Having me and Pau in the lineup is one of the main reasons our D is the best in the league. Our offense is really pretty average thus far.

Plus shooting 6-13 against the Blazers and 11-23 against the Spurs really isn't that good at all.

Now please can you answer my question, what is the Spur record against team 500 or better? How many more road games have they played compared to the Lakers? Don't puss out and change the subject this time, fucking hypocrite.

HarlemHeat37
01-19-2010, 02:32 AM
To be fair, the Lakers D is actually a lot better when Odom is in the game and you're on the bench..

Andrew Bynum
01-19-2010, 02:38 AM
Take a little longer with your response.

FkLA
01-19-2010, 02:41 AM
:lol Changing the subject so fast are we?

Having me and Pau in the lineup is one of the main reasons our D is the best in the league. Our offense is really pretty average thus far.

Plus shooting 6-13 against the Blazers and 11-23 against the Spurs really isn't that good at all.

Now please can you answer my question, what is the Spur record against team 500 or better? How many more road games have they played compared to the Lakers? Don't puss out and change the subject this time, fucking hypocrite.

Best D in the league, since when? And youre not getting the point...Gaysol being out allows you to step up and fill that void instead of playing like a depressed teenage girl like you do when he is in the line-up. If you continued playing like a vagina when Gaysol wasnt there than the excuse would have some basis but thats not the case. Say the Spurs lose against the Thunda a couple of days ago, wouldve been pretty stupid for Spurs fans to use Duncan being out as an excuse dont you think? Considering the fact that that freed up Dejuanito for his 28 pt 23 reb night.

And this isnt about the Spurs, noone is crowning them or proclaiming them to be way better than the competition. This is about the Lakers team that is being crowned but has faltered against any real competition theyve faced.

Nov 13 @ DEN
LOST 79-105

Dec 25 vs CLE
LOST 87-102

Jan 8 @ POR
LOST 98-107

Jan 12 @ SAS
LOST 85-105

Andrew Bynum
01-19-2010, 02:41 AM
To be fair, the Lakers D is actually a lot better when Odom is in the game and you're on the bench..

So when Pau plays and him and Odom close out the game the Lakers are far better off, I agree. Wish Pau didn't miss those big games, he makes a big difference. There is no doubt our length causes a lot of problems though.

Andrew Bynum
01-19-2010, 02:45 AM
Best D in the league, since when? And youre not getting the point...Gaysol being out allows you to step up and fill that void instead of playing like a depressed teenage girl like you do when he is in the line-up. If you continued playing like a vagina when Gaysol wasnt there than the excuse would have some basis but thats not the case. Say the Spurs lose against the Thunda a couple of days ago, wouldve been pretty stupid for Spurs fans to use Duncan being out as an excuse dont you think? Considering the fact that that freed up Dejuanito for his 28 pt 23 reb night.

And this isnt about the Spurs, noone is crowning them or proclaiming them to be way better than the competition. This is about the Lakers team that is being crowned but has faltered against any real competition theyve faced.

Nov 13 @ DEN
LOST 79-105

Dec 25 vs CLE
LOST 87-102

Jan 8 @ POR
LOST 98-107

Jan 12 @ SAS
LOST 85-105

Me > Pau :lmao Spurfan.

This is about spurfan trying to diminish what LA has done to this point and his argument is they haven't played well against good teams and have played a ton of home games. What's the Spurs record against team 500 or better? :lmao

FkLA
01-19-2010, 02:51 AM
Me > Pau :lmao Spurfan.

This is about spurfan trying to diminish what LA has done to this point and his argument is they haven't played well against good teams and have played a ton of home games. What's the Spurs record against team 500 or better? :lmao

Of course not, dont go overboard...youre too much of a vagina to be better than Gaysol. Although in your defense your production definitely rivals his when he isnt in the line-up.

But is anybody crowning the Spurs or saying that theyre waaaaay better than the rest of the competition?

Nov 13 @ DEN
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Dec 25 vs CLE
LOST 87-102

Jan 8 @ POR
LOST 98-107

Jan 12 @ SAS
LOST 85-105

BadOdor
01-19-2010, 02:54 AM
why wont spur fan answer the question? spur fan, what's your team's record against .500+ teams?

FkLA
01-19-2010, 02:59 AM
like 5-15, although thats a complete guess...

what does that have to do with everyone crowning the lakers and saying theyre waaaay better than the rest of the west though? and how does that change the fact that theyve been raped against stiffer competition.

Nov 13 @ DEN
LOST 79-105

Dec 25 vs CLE
LOST 87-102

Jan 8 @ POR
LOST 98-107

Jan 12 @ SAS
LOST 85-105

21_Blessings
01-19-2010, 03:00 AM
Look how butthurt the NBA forum gets after a Lakers win:lol

BadOdor
01-19-2010, 03:01 AM
like 5-15 Son that's what I thought... looks like another first round exit is in the cards for the spurs. God bless.

FkLA
01-19-2010, 03:05 AM
And how does that change the fact that the Lakers have gotten raped by real competition? Better start praying for the stars to allign again and that all the other contenders suffer major injuries like 09'.

Nov 13 @ DEN
LOST 79-105

Dec 25 vs CLE
LOST 87-102

Jan 8 @ POR
LOST 98-107

Jan 12 @ SAS
LOST 85-105

BadOdor
01-19-2010, 03:08 AM
Calm down argy spur fan...I'm glad you go the regular season win over us to keep you going until you get bounced in the playoffs.....whatever works for you son. Lakers 2010 champs.

namlook
01-19-2010, 03:13 AM
And how does that change the fact that the Lakers have gotten raped by real competition? Better start praying for the stars to allign again and that all the other contenders suffer major injuries like 09'.

Nov 13 @ DEN
LOST 79-105

Dec 25 vs CLE
LOST 87-102

Jan 8 @ POR
LOST 98-107

Jan 12 @ SAS
LOST 85-105

Good teams are supposed to win at home. What's your point?

The Lakers are the class of the NBA and that isn't changing anytime soon. Get used to it.

FkLA
01-19-2010, 03:13 AM
Nov 13 @ DEN
LOST 79-105

Dec 25 vs CLE
LOST 87-102

Jan 8 @ POR
LOST 98-107

Jan 12 @ SAS
LOST 85-105

Facts dont lie son. Lakeshow has done nothing more than feast on mediocre teams and spineless pretenders like the Mavettes.

FkLA
01-19-2010, 03:15 AM
Good teams are supposed to win at home.

what happened on christmas?

tee hee

namlook
01-19-2010, 03:16 AM
what happened on christmas?

tee hee

Lakers fans are the ones laughing. They know they have the best team. Enjoy the season.

FkLA
01-19-2010, 03:20 AM
Fools gold son, but when BSPN and Stern shove the Lakers 'greatness' so far down your throat cant say I blame you for thinking that you 'know that you have the best team'...facts dont lie though:

Nov 13 @ DEN
LOST 79-105

Dec 25 vs CLE
LOST 87-102

Jan 8 @ POR
LOST 98-107

Jan 12 @ SAS
LOST 85-105

Start praying for a repeat of 09' and that injuries strike the contenders again. Only shot LA has at repeating.

namlook
01-19-2010, 03:24 AM
Start praying for a repeat of 09' and that injuries strike the contenders again. Only shot LA has at repeating.

The only shot? LOL. :lmao

I don't see other teams playing better. The Lakers defense is back. #1 FG% defense, #1 3PT FG% defense, #1 point differential, best record. The numbers don't lie.

FkLA
01-19-2010, 03:33 AM
The only shot? LOL. :lmao

I don't see other teams playing better. The Lakers defense is back. #1 FG% defense, #1 point differential, best record. The numbers don't lie.

that has alot to do with the lakers having twice as many home games as the rest of the contenders son, hence the fools gold comment regarding their 'great' record...factor in the home heavy schedule and the fact that theyve been against mediocre teams and spineless pretenders (cough Mavettes cough) and those 30+ wins mean very little. do that against the top teams than ill buy the hype.

Nov 13 @ DEN
LOST 79-105

Dec 25 vs CLE
LOST 87-102

Jan 8 @ POR
LOST 98-107

Jan 12 @ SAS
LOST 85-105

j.dizzle
01-19-2010, 03:34 AM
sons just stop with the bitch fits..stop stayin up till 2am just to argue some facts that we just gonna ignore..I wanna see another person playing with 2 fucked up fingers on their shooting hand & see how they do..Best record in the league with the best player injured & your second best player missing half the season..God dayummm its gonna be even bigger curbstomps left & right when Kobe's index finger is not taped up like a biznitch.

namlook
01-19-2010, 03:35 AM
that has alot to do with the lakers having twice as many home games as the rest of the contenders son, hence the fools gold comment regarding their 'great' record...factor in the home heavy schedule and the fact that theyve been against mediocre teams and spineless pretenders (cough Mavettes cough) and those 30+ wins mean very little. do that against the top teams than ill buy the hype.


You are assuming because the Lakers played well at home they can't do it on the road. Bad assumption. They had the best road record in the league last year. Expect more of the same.

FkLA
01-19-2010, 03:42 AM
son that 'broken' finger is a small bone chip break, aka a really bad jammed finger...but you know how BSPN and Stern are, they love LA so theyre out there trying to portray Kobe as some fierce Mamba Warrior.

and that best record in the league is fools gold when its been aquired by beating up on weak teams and getting raped by the top teams.

Nov 13 @ DEN
LOST 79-105

Dec 25 vs CLE
LOST 87-102

Jan 8 @ POR
LOST 98-107

Jan 12 @ SAS
LOST 85-105

FkLA
01-19-2010, 03:46 AM
You are assuming because the Lakers played well at home they can't do it on the road. Bad assumption. They had the best road record in the league last year. Expect more of the same.

You saying theyre capable of going 23-3 on the road? Theyve already lost 6 games on the road son. Youre blind if you dont think playing so many home games has alot to do with their 'great and best' record. Besides what does it matter if those wins have come against weak opponents and every real test LA has had theyve been raped. Fools gold son.

Nov 13 @ DEN
LOST 79-105

Dec 25 vs CLE
LOST 87-102

Jan 8 @ POR
LOST 98-107

Jan 12 @ SAS
LOST 85-105

namlook
01-19-2010, 03:49 AM
You saying they're capable of going 23-3 on the road?

I think they are capable of it from here on out with all of their players playing, but it's not likely. Expect them to have the top road record in the league when it's all said and done, just like they did last year.


son that 'broken' finger is a small bone chip break, aka a really bad jammed finger...

A doctor diagnosed Kobe with an avulsion fracture. This is what an avulsion fracture looks like. With a fracture the bone is actually broken.

http://www.aap.org/pubserv/sportsmed/515.jpg

21_Blessings
01-19-2010, 03:50 AM
FKLA owned by reality.

j.dizzle
01-19-2010, 03:52 AM
You saying theyre capable of going 23-3 on the road? Theyve already lost 6 games on the road son. Youre blind if you dont think playing so many home games has alot to do with their 'great and best' record. Besides what does it matter if those wins have come against weak opponents and every real test LA has had theyve been raped. Fools gold son.

Nov 13 @ DEN
LOST 79-105

Dec 25 vs CLE
LOST 87-102

Jan 8 @ POR
LOST 98-107

Jan 12 @ SAS
LOST 85-105
:lol Just stop trying to waste your time..These blowouts came early in the season..If this type of shit happens after Feb, then you can talk shit all u want..When you are the defending champs you aint gonna be as hungry until the season starts winding down.

FkLA
01-19-2010, 03:52 AM
A doctor diagnosed Kobe with an avulsion fracture. This is what an avulsion fracture looks like. With a fracture the bone is actually broken.

http://www.aap.org/pubserv/sportsmed/515.jpg

Exactly its where a small little chip of your bone breaks. It typically happens with severely jammed fingers...the way BSPN and his legion of nuthuggers describe it though you would think his finger had completely snapped in half.

Def Rowe
01-19-2010, 03:56 AM
Exactly its where a small little chip of your bone breaks. It typically happens with severely jammed fingers...

Yep, not a big deal.


the way BSPN and his legion of nuthuggers describe it though you would think his finger had completely snapped in half.

Wha?

j.dizzle
01-19-2010, 03:57 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/parenting/images/300/baby_crying_closeup.jpg

FkLA
01-19-2010, 04:00 AM
I think they are capable of it from here on out with all of their players playing, but it's not likely. Expect them to have the top road record in the league when it's all said and done, just like they did last year.

I repeat theyve already lost 6 games. And had numerous other close calls...Bucks, Kings, Thunda, etc. What in your right mind, other than the BS BSPN shoves down your throat, makes you think theyre capable of going 23-3 all of a sudden?


:lol Just stop trying to waste your time..These blowouts came early in the season..If this type of shit happens after Feb, then you can talk shit all u want..When you are the defending champs you aint gonna be as hungry until the season starts winding down.

Son 3 of those have been in the past month. 2 within the last two weeks. And dont come with that weak garbage about not being hungry son, this is the same team that said they wanted the Bulls record and whose star player refuses to sit out despite the fact that his finger is snapped in half and his back resembles that of a 100 yr old Syberian grandmother.

OceaNus
01-19-2010, 04:08 AM
LOL this dude's panies are in a bunch. Why you mad son?

FkLA
01-19-2010, 04:14 AM
so because Im calling out the Lakers 'great and best' record I got my panties in a bunch? guess when you cant refute the facts than just resort to the U MAD comeback...come on son come stronger than that the facts dont lie.

Nov 13 @ DEN
LOST 79-105

Dec 25 vs CLE
LOST 87-102

Jan 8 @ POR
LOST 98-107

Jan 12 @ SAS
LOST 85-105

j.dizzle
01-19-2010, 04:15 AM
If LA was 100% healthy all season they wouldnt have more then 6 losses..end of story..stop complaining dawg & enjoy the night..cheers

FkLA
01-19-2010, 04:19 AM
If LA was 100% healthy all season they wouldnt have more then 6 losses..end of story..stop complaining dawg & enjoy the night..cheers

...and if Yao, KG, Manu, and Nelson were healthy in the 2009 playoffs the Lakers might not be the defending champs.

It is time to call it a night though. Im out son, cheers.

Nov 13 @ DEN
LOST 79-105

Dec 25 vs CLE
LOST 87-102

Jan 8 @ POR
LOST 98-107

Jan 12 @ SAS
LOST 85-105

namlook
01-19-2010, 05:07 AM
Exactly its where a small little chip of your bone breaks. It typically happens with severely jammed fingers...the way BSPN and his legion of nuthuggers describe it though you would think his finger had completely snapped in half.

I never heard anyone say his finger snapped in half. If anyone said that they are wrong. The thing is, you are wrong too. A jammed finger does not involve breaking of the bone. So no, Kobe does not have a jammed finger. A jammed finger is a sprain of the joint capsule. An avulsion fracture, which is what Kobe has, involves the bone actually breaking.

MiamiHeat
01-19-2010, 05:22 AM
FKLA owned by reality.

Avulsion fractures are minor, and only need a bandage splint.

Most people call these "jammed fingers".

They hurt at the start, and swell up. I must have gotten a million of them in high school and college when playing sports with my friends.

I never once used a splint. I said "OUCH FUCK" and then looked at it, saw it was swelled up, and just kept on playing.

Of course, if Kome gets it,

"OUCH IT HRUTS, MY F(INGERRRR OWWWW, WHAT A WARRIOR I AM"

Laker-fan-in-SanAnto
01-19-2010, 07:47 AM
Damn! FkLA is one sensitive bitch.

Donkeybong
01-19-2010, 09:09 AM
Avulsion fractures are minor, and only need a bandage splint.

Most people call these "jammed fingers".

They hurt at the start, and swell up. I must have gotten a million of them in high school and college when playing sports with my friends.

I never once used a splint. I said "OUCH FUCK" and then looked at it, saw it was swelled up, and just kept on playing.

Of course, if Kome gets it,

"OUCH IT HRUTS, MY F(INGERRRR OWWWW, WHAT A WARRIOR I AM"

avulsion fractures aren't the same as jammed fingers. the two mechanisms of injury are completely different. don't make up shit.

mystargtr34
01-19-2010, 09:24 AM
Didnt Kobe go for something like 35 a game on 50% in his first 10 games with the finger injury? I remember him being on fire right after he hurt it. I doubt he all of a sudden forgot how to deal with it, his recent cold streak could be him just regressing back to the mean, hes a career 45% FG shooter and until the past 5 games, he was up around 48-49% the entire season- now hes back at 46%. I think he will stay around the 45% mark for the rest of the season, so i dont think we will see too many more 4-19 games.

Donkeybong
01-19-2010, 09:36 AM
Didnt Kobe go for something like 35 a game on 50% in his first 10 games with the finger injury? I remember him being on fire right after he hurt it. I doubt he all of a sudden forgot how to deal with it, his recent cold streak could be him just regressing back to the mean, hes a career 45% FG shooter and until the past 5 games, he was up around 48-49% the entire season- now hes back at 46%. I think he will stay around the 45% mark for the rest of the season, so i dont think we will see too many more 4-19 games.

Finger keeps getting hit and the guy looks like he is in more discomfort now than ever. He also started to get back spasms about 3-4 games ago. Dont know if they are still bothering him. Kobe needs to let his body rest after this roadie. We're going to need him to be healthy in the playoffs.

DxB
01-19-2010, 09:39 AM
Mo Williams is pretty much a lock to make it and Shaq is still the best Center in the East after Dwight.

You're obviously arguing for the sake of it now.

The Cavs have only lebron as a legit all star, Mo williams and shaq whether they make it or not are not all stars at this point.

Kobe obviously has a ridiculous supporting cast in comparison, coz you KNOW if lebron shoots hte way Kobes been shooting so far, Mo williams or shaq or z or who the fuck ever is not gonna help them win. Kobe always has the option of deferring (even though he wont) and still getting a win.

The_Game
01-19-2010, 10:52 AM
You're obviously arguing for the sake of it now.

The Cavs have only lebron as a legit all star, Mo williams and shaq whether they make it or not are not all stars at this point.

Kobe obviously has a ridiculous supporting cast in comparison, coz you KNOW if lebron shoots hte way Kobes been shooting so far, Mo williams or shaq or z or who the fuck ever is not gonna help them win. Kobe always has the option of deferring (even though he wont) and still getting a win.

Then why did two years ago Lebron played like shit and cavs took the champs to 7 games?

DAF86
01-19-2010, 11:02 AM
Then why did two years ago Lebron played like shit and cavs took the champs to 7 games?

Do you think that the Cavs have a better supporting cast than the Lakers?

TheMACHINE
01-19-2010, 11:16 AM
...and if Yao, KG, Manu, and Nelson were healthy in the 2009 playoffs the Lakers might not be the defending champs.

It is time to call it a night though. Im out son, cheers.

Nov 13 @ DEN
LOST 79-105

Dec 25 vs CLE
LOST 87-102

Jan 8 @ POR
LOST 98-107

Jan 12 @ SAS
LOST 85-105

You know its good to be a Lakers fan when a spurs fan can only pinpoint 4 games out of 42 as thier rebuttle.

TheMACHINE
01-19-2010, 11:17 AM
Do you think that the Cavs have a better supporting cast than the Lakers?

Lakers have a better supporing cast. So? What if Lebron had Duncans supporting cast?

DAF86
01-19-2010, 11:27 AM
Lakers have a better supporing cast. So? What if Lebron had Duncans supporting cast?

What about it?

Mike D
01-19-2010, 11:35 AM
Do you think that the Cavs have a better supporting cast than the Lakers?

I would say that the Cavs are built quite well for their style of play, and their style are all well suited for playing around Lebron.

DAF86
01-19-2010, 11:44 AM
I would say that the Cavs are built quite well for their style of play, and their style are all well suited for playing around Lebron.

:rolleyes

You can twist the argument all you want but the bottomline is that Kobe's teammates are a lot more talented than Lebron's teammates.

Mike D
01-19-2010, 12:00 PM
:rolleyes

You can twist the argument all you want but the bottomline is that Kobe's teammates are a lot more talented than Lebron's teammates.

Lebron plays with nothing but D-League guys, yea.

Start a thread about the topic if that's what you want to discuss, this thread is about the Magic/Lakers game.

DAF86
01-19-2010, 12:04 PM
Lebron plays with nothing but D-League guys, yea.

Start a thread about the topic if that's what you want to discuss, this thread is about the Magic/Lakers game.

The subject was beign discussed before I said anything about it so I didn't see the need to start another thread.

DAF86
01-19-2010, 12:05 PM
Besides why are you mad? I'm saying that your Lakers are a better team than the Cavs, or are you just a Kobe fan?

Banzai
01-19-2010, 12:21 PM
Besides why are you mad? I'm saying that your Lakers are a better team than the Cavs, or are you just a Kobe fan?

Lakers didn't play like they were better on Christmas.

TheMACHINE
01-19-2010, 12:50 PM
:rolleyes

You can twist the argument all you want but the bottomline is that Kobe's teammates are a lot more talented than Lebron's teammates.

yah so?

DAF86
01-19-2010, 12:54 PM
yah so?

I'm just trying to make that clear to the Lakers/Kobe fans in here that try to disput that fact.

TheMACHINE
01-19-2010, 12:56 PM
I'm just trying to make that clear to the Lakers/Kobe fans in here that try to disput that fact.

ok...Lakers have a better supporting cast, but Lebrons teammates aint scrubs either.

badfish22
01-19-2010, 12:58 PM
Does this really need to be posted again?



LA028dlUVwQ

TheMACHINE
01-19-2010, 01:06 PM
Jammed Finger...dislocated finger....fracture....

who ever says a jammed finger is like a fracture is an idiot.

Donkeybong
01-19-2010, 01:11 PM
Does this really need to be posted again?



LA028dlUVwQ

that video is irrefutable evidence. :lmao

The person who made that video obviously has an agenda. Im currently in my second semester of medical school and I can tell you an avulsion fracture does not equal a jammed finger. It can definitely be serious enough to alter motor movement. Get the fuck out of here with that whack shit.

FkLA
01-19-2010, 01:19 PM
Jammed finger



A direct blow to the tip of a finger can cause tendon or ligament damage, as well as fracture or dislocation of the bones.

If the side ligaments are torn, you may have pain on the side of a joint, and the joint may be loose.
If the ligament on the bottom of the joint (called the volar plate) is torn, you may have pain and looseness on the underside of the finger.
If a tendon is torn away from its attachment, you may be unable to completely bend, straighten, or grip with the finger (or thumb).

http://www.webmd.com/fitness-exercise/finger-injuries?page=2

Also I dont get it, all of a sudden because Im calling out the Lakers 'great and best' record as fools gold Im mad or sensitive? How about refuting the facts instead.

FkLA
01-19-2010, 01:23 PM
You know its good to be a Lakers fan when a spurs fan can only pinpoint 4 games out of 42 as thier rebuttle.

Just so happens that those 4 games have been against top teams. Like Ive said your 'great' record has been aided by a home-heavy schedule and beating up on mediocre teams or spineless pretenders like the Mavettes. Any real challenge LA has had they havent just lost theyve been raped. Fools gold.

TheMACHINE
01-19-2010, 01:27 PM
Just so happens that those 4 games have been against top teams. Like Ive said your 'great' record has been aided by a home-heavy schedule and beating up on mediocre teams or spineless pretenders like the Mavettes. Any real challenge LA has had they havent just lost theyve been raped. Fools gold.

ok...so who do you think can actually beat the Lakers? Just to let you know...whichever team you list, I will list more than 4 top teams they lost too.

FkLA
01-19-2010, 01:34 PM
If youve actually been following this thread, the point Ive been trying to make is that LA has been just as inconsistant and isnt playing any better than the rest of the top teams out West. Or East for that matter. People are already crowning the Lakers and proclaiming them waaay better than the rest of the competition because all they see is the record and come to that conclusion. Most of those people are clueless about LA's home heavy schedule and the fact that theyve been raped by real competition, Im simply being a good samaritan and opening their eyes. That record is fools gold.

TheMACHINE
01-19-2010, 01:45 PM
If youve actually been following this thread, the point Ive been trying to make is that LA has been just as inconsistant and isnt playing any better than the rest of the top teams out West. Or East for that matter. People are already crowning the Lakers and proclaiming them waaay better than the rest of the competition because all they see is the record and come to that conclusion. Most of those people are clueless about LA's home heavy schedule and the fact that theyve been raped by real competition, Im simply being a good samaritan and opening their eyes. That record is fools gold.

The Lakers did what they're suppose to do... Win with a heavy home schedule. Why dont you wait till after this 8 game road trip and then try to open our eyes then. Atleast your arguement will have some sort of validity to it.

FkLA
01-19-2010, 01:52 PM
The Lakers did what they're suppose to do... Win with a heavy home schedule. Why dont you wait till after this 8 game road trip and then try to open our eyes then. Atleast your arguement will have some sort of validity to it.

Oh for sure, the Lakers did their part in winning those games...all Im saying is dont crown them already based on that record without taking into consideration that home-heavy schedule. Or completely ignore that they been brutally raped by the top teams and that those 30+ wins have basically been against mediocre+spineless pretender teams.

3-4 losses coming up on this road trip, book it.

Allanon
01-19-2010, 01:54 PM
Most of those people are clueless about LA's home heavy schedule and the fact that theyve been raped by real competition, Im simply being a good samaritan and opening their eyes. That record is fools gold.

Actually, this is incorrect. Of the contenders, the Lakers have had the hardest schedule of opponents outside of the Hawks.

The other contenders have been beating up mostly on pansies and have a much more difficult schedule ahead than the Lakers. They are the ones with the inflated records and you'll see the Lakers getting even more separation in the standings.

TheMACHINE
01-19-2010, 01:54 PM
oh for sure, the lakers did their part in winning those games...all im saying is dont crown them already based on that record without taking into consideration that home-heavy schedule. Or completely ignore that they been brutally raped by the top teams and that those 30+ wins have basically been against mediocre+spineless pretender teams.

3-4 losses coming up on this road trip, book it.

6-2

TheMACHINE
01-19-2010, 01:56 PM
Does anyone know which team has the 2nd most home games so far?

Allanon
01-19-2010, 01:58 PM
Does anyone know which team has the 2nd most home games so far?

Spurs.

FkLA
01-19-2010, 02:07 PM
Actually, this is incorrect. Of the contenders, the Lakers have had the hardest schedule of opponents outside of the Hawks.

The other contenders have been beating up mostly on pansies and have a much more difficult schedule ahead than the Lakers. They are the ones with the inflated records and you'll see the Lakers getting even more separation in the standings.

That SOS stat becomes meaningless when failing to factor in home/road games ratio...perhaps the teams the Lakers have beat have a higher win % than the other contenders' opponents but Im pretty sure that win % drops off dramatically on the road. Its a misleading stat, playing so many home games is a huge advantage for LA. 23-3 at home and a very average 9-6 on the road, the numbers speak for themselves.

Actually the Lakers are the ones that have faltered every big test theyve had this season.


6-2

Im sticking with 3-4 losses, but if it is a 6-2 road trip the losses will be @ Cle and @ Bos...continuing the pattern of getting raped by real competition. Your record will still be fools gold.


Does anyone know which team has the 2nd most home games so far?

Except noone is crowning the Spurs or claiming that theyre way better than the competition.

TheMACHINE
01-19-2010, 02:11 PM
Except noone is crowning the Spurs or claiming that theyre way better than the competition.

Yah..noone's crowning them cuz they have a crappy record for the amount of home games. =P

Allanon
01-19-2010, 02:16 PM
That SOS stat becomes meaningless when failing to factor in home/road games ratio...perhaps the teams the Lakers have beat have a higher win % than the other contenders' opponents but Im pretty sure that win % drops off dramatically on the road. Its a misleading stat, playing so many home games is a huge advantage for LA. 23-3 at home and a very average 9-6 on the road, the numbers speak for themselves.

Actually the Lakers are the ones that have faltered every big test theyve had this season.

The Lakers road record is easily among the best in the NBA.

Meanwhile, the SOS says the Lakers have had the hardest schedule of the contenders outside of the Hawks. Whilst teams like the Cavs,Celtics, Nugs and Spurs (if you want to call them a contender) are in the top 6 Easest schedules. Beating up on the creampuffs is the real "fool's gold."



Im sticking with 3-4 losses, but if it is a 6-2 road trip the losses will be @ Cle and @ Bos...continuing the pattern of getting raped by real competition. Your record will still be fools gold.

Please sticky this in your sig, the Lakers may lose to some shitty teams but they won't lose to the Cavs or Celtics.

FkLA
01-19-2010, 02:18 PM
Yah..noone's crowning them cuz they have a crappy record for the amount of home games. =P

After the shaky start, theyre 1 game behind the division lead and 2nd seed...Im cool with the strides that have been made. Spurs crappy record doesnt change the fact that the Lakers record is fools gold though.


The Lakers road record is easily among the best in the NBA.

Meanwhile, the SOS says the Lakers have had the hardest schedule of the contenders outside of the Hawks. Whilst teams like the Cavs,Celtics, Nugs and Spurs (if you want to call them a contender) are in the top 6 Easest schedules. Beating up on the creampuffs is the real "fool's gold."

Again throw that SOS stat out the window, the Lakers have a astronomical advantage by playing so many games at home and the SOS simply doesnt factor that in. If the home/road games ratio between the contenders was the same or even somewhat close than maybe that stat would have some validity in my eyes.

Lakers have been beating up on mediocre teams and quality teams that just arent elite material (Hou, OKC, Suns, Mavettes, etc)...put them up against real competition and theyve been raped. Thats the epitome of fools gold.


Please sticky this in your sig, the Lakers may lose to some shitty teams but they won't lose to the Cavs or Celtics.

Theyve been not just beat, but brutally raped by every real challenge theyve faced this season (Den, Cle, SA, Por, etc)...other than the Laker hype BSPN shoves down your throat what makes you come to this conclusion?

TheMACHINE
01-19-2010, 04:01 PM
theyve been not just beat, but brutally raped by the only challenge theyve faced this season (cleveland)...other than the laker hype bspn shoves down your throat what makes you come to this conclusion?

fify

Allanon
01-19-2010, 04:47 PM
After the shaky start, theyre 1 game behind the division lead and 2nd seed...Im cool with the strides that have been made. Spurs crappy record doesnt change the fact that the Lakers record is fools gold though.

That's cool. This is not about the Spurs, I just included them as it was convenient when looking up teams with easy schedules.



Again throw that SOS stat out the window, the Lakers have a astronomical advantage by playing so many games at home and the SOS simply doesnt factor that in. If the home/road games ratio between the contenders was the same or even somewhat close than maybe that stat would have some validity in my eyes.

You could say throw out the number of home games as well because it doesn't take into account the quality of opponent. If you can count the number of home games played, you also have to account for SOS.



Lakers have been beating up on mediocre teams and quality teams that just arent elite material (Hou, OKC, Suns, Mavettes, etc)...put them up against real competition and theyve been raped. Thats the epitome of fools gold.

These "mediocre" Suns, Mavs, Rockets, OKC have all beaten teams like the Celtics, Hawks, Cavs, Magic and Spurs.

Is the fool's gold really in the so-called elite?



Theyve been not just beat, but brutally raped by every real challenge theyve faced this season (Den, Cle, SA, Por, etc)...other than the Laker hype BSPN shoves down your throat what makes you come to this conclusion?

A win is a win, a loss is a loss whether it be by 2 points or 20. When a game looks like a loss, the scrubs come on in. It's no different than Phil pulling the starters when the Lakers have a nice lead.

It's the smart thing to do to pull your starters once the game gets out of hand in either a win or a loss.