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George Gervin's Afro
01-19-2010, 03:57 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20100119/pl_politico/31637

CAMBRIDGE, Mass. — As voters head to the polls in Massachusetts, nervous Democrats have already begun to blame one another for putting at risk the Senate seat Ted Kennedy held for more than 40 years.

Many angry Democrats blame their candidate, state Attorney General Martha Coakley, for running a sluggish campaign that let Republican Scott Brown set the contours of the race.

Some Democratic strategists lay the fault at the feet of President Barack Obama, saying he should have done more to sell the party’s agenda.

And in private conversations, Hill sources say White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel has blamed Coakley, the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee and Democratic pollster Celinda Lake for failing to see Brown’s surge in time to stop it.

“With the legislative and political stakes so high, it’s unbelievable that the Senate committee and White House let this race get so out of hand,” said one senior Washington Democrat. “There’s a lot of blame to go around. Martha Coakley is only one of the problems here.”

Coakley is at the center of the criticism. Democrats complain that her campaign was caught napping after last month’s primary — and that Brown was able to use the pause to shape the race.

“A malaise set in, and there was a failure to take advantage of the opportunity to define yourself the next day” after the primary, said longtime Rep. Richard Neal (D-Mass.). “You thank people for the primary and then begin to define the next six weeks.”

Added Neal: “Going dark was not a great idea.”

Although DSCC Chairman Robert Menendez (D-N.J.) was still predicting victory Monday, even he conceded that it would have been “better” if Coakley had laid out the differences between the candidates earlier. He said Democrats have learned a crucial lesson: that even in very blue states, Democrats should expect a “volatile” environment with a “tough” electorate — and “you can’t afford not to be aggressive.”

“You have to define your opponent before they define themselves,” Menendez said. “In Brown’s case, he’s working hard to try to disguise himself.”

Menendez learned that the race was tightening about a week and a half ago, when independent pollsters returned results showing the race much tighter than Democratic polls had been portraying. He acted quickly — unleashing more than $2.5 million into the race, including $1.4 million in television ads in the past week alone, according to sources familiar with the effort.

The DSCC also dispatched senior staff to take tighter control of the Coakley campaign, bolster her get-out-the-vote efforts, improve her fundraising and enhance coordination between the White House and the campaign. As a result, the tone of her ads and her stump speech were sharpened in an attempt to define Brown in the minds of the voters as a far-right Republican out of touch with the state’s mainstream voters.

“Look, we’re never in place of a campaign; a candidate has to run their own race,” Menendez told POLITICO. “When the alarm bells went off, we sprung into action.”

Emanuel has told his confidants that those bells rang too late — and that both Menendez and Lake, who declined to be interviewed, should have been moving sooner.

But the White House itself is facing a barrage of criticism among Democrats, with many saying that Obama has let the GOP frame the issues — particularly health care — in the minds of many independent voters, including those who elected Republican governors in Virginia and New Jersey in the fall.

“We lost independents in Virginia, we lost independents in New Jersey and we’re losing independents in Massachusetts,” said one Democratic campaign strategist. “The only thing those three states have in common is Obama.”

The Democratic National Committee, which spent at least $750,000 almost exclusively on get-out-the-vote efforts, has also faced criticism for not dispatching its resources early enough.

Democrats recognize the difficulty any candidate would have had, given the political headwinds blowing against the party at the moment. Still, they argue that the race was still very much winnable and that a veteran pol such as Rep. Michael Capuano — who was trounced by Coakley in the primary — would not have let Brown define the race.

Instead, they complain that Coakley effectively ceded to her opponent the day-to-day news coverage — what political pros call “earned media” — by not taking him seriously enough until it was too late.

Coakley was so confident, noted one fuming Democrat, that she even stopped the critical task of identifying supporters on the phone following the primary — the very foundation on which she should have structured her turnout operation.

Brown, a little-known Republican state senator, used the opening to cultivate a regular-guy image, most vividly rendered in what became the campaign’s defining ad — that of the candidate driving around Massachusetts in his well-worn GMC truck.

And while Brown, who is actually an attorney and is married to a local news broadcaster, was defining his just-folks persona, Coakley was committing a series of gaffes that made her seem politically out of touch or at least tone-deaf.

Asked about why she was not spending more time with voters, Coakley jabbed at Brown for having greeted hockey fans who attended a special outdoor game between the Boston Bruins and the Philadelphia Flyers.

“As opposed to standing outside Fenway Park? In the cold? Shaking hands?” she said.

Such one-on-one interaction with voters is the lifeblood of this state’s politics, and mocking the idea of braving the cold at Boston’s iconic baseball stadium seemed bizarre given the tens of thousands of voters who did just that to see the game.

“She had a humanity deficit as a cold campaigner, but they didn’t try to warm her up — or, instead, define the race about big issues — and instead ended up with a referendum on likability,” said one Massachusetts Democratic veteran.

J.B. Poersch, executive director of the DSCC, acknowledged that Democrats didn’t do enough to portray Coakley as an “independent voice” for Massachusetts. That allowed Brown to grab the “change” mantle — and to appeal to voters upset over the direction of the country.

“We just didn’t use the primary to set her up as a change agent enough,” Poersch said.

But Poersch strongly defended the committee’s efforts, saying “we, more than anybody, represented the difference in spending.”

“We were the principal funders of her field program,” Poersch said. “And my political director was side by side with her campaign manager” doing voter turnout.

Party officials say Monday’s debate and some subsequent Coakley gaffes may have done her in.

When moderator David Gergen asked Brown about the “Kennedy seat,” the Republican shot back that it was actually “the people’s seat.” The line became a populist rallying cry for both Brown and his supporters.

Coakley, meanwhile, hurt herself at the debate by suggesting that there were not currently any terrorists in Afghanistan.

More missteps followed, each of which amplified her weaknesses: leaving the state to attend a lobbyist-packed Washington fundraiser — which became a Brown ad; suggesting Catholics with strong views on contraception shouldn’t work in emergency rooms; appearing not to know that former Red Sox pitcher Curt Schilling was, in fact, a player for the Red Sox.

A candidate who was not a part of the Beacon Hill boys club, had no ties to Washington and had little in the way of a relationship with the Kennedys somehow managed to be cast as the ultimate insider.

“Massachusetts isn’t insulated from the anti-incumbent sentiment nationwide, but this was a race that a competent candidate would have won without panic or palpitations,” said a Massachusetts Democratic hand.


The Dems need to refocus and adjust...losing this seat is not the end of the world nor does it ensure they will lose the House or Senate. They have time to right the ship and stop catering the far left wing base... keep catering to those nuts and you guarantee losing Congress..

boutons_deux
01-19-2010, 04:32 PM
"stop catering the far left wing base"

nothing the Dems has done or proposed has been "far left", except in Tea Bagging imaginations and Repug/Fox lies.

jack sommerset
01-19-2010, 04:42 PM
"stop catering the far left wing base"

nothing the Dems has done or proposed has been "far left", except in Tea Bagging imaginations and Repug/Fox lies.

People like you are why voters don't want Dems in office, atleast the Obama dems. Just saying. Don't get mad. It's pretty much a fact. You have zero clue what you are talking about.

baseline bum
01-19-2010, 04:48 PM
The Dems need to refocus and adjust...losing this seat is not the end of the world nor does it ensure they will lose the House or Senate. They have time to right the ship and stop catering the far left wing base... keep catering to those nuts and you guarantee losing Congress..

Obama's "far left" campaign is what got him elected. A lot of what will screw the Democrats is their base isn't going to be motivated to show up on election day with the way the party has so far completely failed to deliver any kind of progressive reform. It's really hard to see much of a difference between the parties except on religious issues.

j.dizzle
01-19-2010, 05:23 PM
hahaha sounds good to me..I dont want to get taxed up the ass

EmptyMan
01-19-2010, 05:31 PM
Obama's "far left" campaign is what got him elected. A lot of what will screw the Democrats is their base isn't going to be motivated to show up on election day with the way the party has so far completely failed to deliver any kind of progressive reform. It's really hard to see much of a difference between the parties except on religious issues.

Obama took a sharp turn to the center after beating Clinton. His hope and change bullshit along with McDoofus is what brought in his independents.


Also "Not Bush" = /election

From the very start of the health care bill Obama put it in the hands of Pelosi and co. That's far-left. Not even trying tort reform, cross state lines insurance, union blowjobs, etc is far-left.



And LOL at Boutons always crying about tea-baggers when he is such a lively gentleman of the perceived equivalent.

boutons_deux
01-19-2010, 05:31 PM
I don't think it was Magic Negro's far-left campaign that got him elected.

What was supposedly "far-left"? Nationalizing all the banks and oilcos?

"far left" in USA is right of center. :lol

I think he was elected as the Un-dubya, the Un-Repug, since the everybody but the faithful Repug losers and wingnuts knew that dubya and Repugs had fucked up everything, for the few things they even attempted in governance.

TeyshaBlue
01-19-2010, 05:32 PM
The Dems need to refocus and adjust...losing this seat is not the end of the world nor does it ensure they will lose the House or Senate. They have time to right the ship and stop catering the far left wing base... keep catering to those nuts and you guarantee losing Congress..

I agree...if the Democrats will stop treating this like some kind of Waterloo, then they can get about the business of examining why this happened and craft their strategy appropriately. It can be just the thing to solidify support amongst some of the blue dog brethren.

SouthernFried
01-19-2010, 05:35 PM
The Democrats need to go much further left to get the country back behind them...

This should be the gameplan for all democrats.

spursncowboys
01-19-2010, 05:41 PM
The entire healthcare fiasco is alot like bush and privatizing social security. He pretended like his lopsided victory over kerry enabled him to try that. No matter how unpopular it was he still acted as if his election was a referendum to this social security issue.

baseline bum
01-19-2010, 05:53 PM
I don't think it was Magic Negro's far-left campaign that got him elected.

What was supposedly "far-left"? Nationalizing all the banks and oilcos?

"far left" in USA is right of center. :lol

I think he was elected as the Un-dubya, the Un-Repug, since the everybody but the faithful Repug losers and wingnuts knew that dubya and Repugs had fucked up everything, for the few things they even attempted in governance.

Hence, the term "far left" and not far-left.

SnakeBoy
01-19-2010, 08:31 PM
The Democrats need to go much further left to get the country back behind them...

This should be the gameplan for all democrats.

Exactly!

iggypop123
01-19-2010, 08:40 PM
people only vote for elections. then they give up. local elcetions is where those tea baggers can excell

Nbadan
01-19-2010, 08:40 PM
The Dems need to refocus and adjust...losing this seat is not the end of the world nor does it ensure they will lose the House or Senate. They have time to right the ship and stop catering the far left wing base... keep catering to those nuts and you guarantee losing Congress..

Catering to the 'far left wing base'?

Do you mean single-payer health-care reform? Nope.
Ending the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq? Nope.
Prosecuting ex-Bush officials for war crimes? Nope.
The end of corporate welfare? Nope.

Nbadan
01-19-2010, 08:44 PM
Obama's "far left" campaign is what got him elected. A lot of what will screw the Democrats is their base isn't going to be motivated to show up on election day with the way the party has so far completely failed to deliver any kind of progressive reform. It's really hard to see much of a difference between the parties except on religious issues.

One major difference is the Obama adminstration is stimulating spending when the economy needs it, during a recession, while the Bush administraton raised spending during 6-7 year period of economic expansion thus setting up the next administration up for failure....

Yonivore
01-19-2010, 08:52 PM
Frankly, I couldn't care less that the Democrats "learn" anything from this election. I hope they remain clueless.

EVAY
01-19-2010, 08:57 PM
After the significant losses in the 2006 congressional elections, some fairly respected commentators noted that it could actually serve as a wake-up call for the Republican party if they payed attention, and it could end up being 'the best thing that ever happened to the Republicans'. Of course they didn't, and then 2008 happened.

Now, the same thing could be said of the Democrats (assuming that Coakely actually loses) right now. The question is, will they pay attention, or will they misread the public mood as badly as the republicans did in 2006?

Seems to me that the voters are as mad today as they were in 2006 and 2008. So, they are in a mood to 'kick the bums out'. They will just keep doing this, no matter who is in, until some party actually fixes something...a challenge neither party seems able to meet right now.

The real question is: what lessons are the Republicans going to learn from this, if they pick up the seat?

Spursmania
01-19-2010, 09:18 PM
But, but, but, but, but, Massachusetts people love their healthcare!:lmao:lmao

Spursmania
01-19-2010, 09:19 PM
Frankly, I couldn't care less that the Democrats "learn" anything from this election. I hope they remain clueless.

I hope Dems continue to try to ram this bill down the people's throats. I really do. It will be a 2010 tsunami!:lol

Nbadan
01-19-2010, 10:11 PM
Now, the same thing could be said of the Democrats (assuming that Coakely actually loses) right now. The question is, will they pay attention, or will they misread the public mood as badly as the republicans did in 2006?

That depends on what you believe....most Progressives believe independents in Massachusetts swung Republican because voters are looking for real change in Washington...I think they voted in Brown to spit their own noses, but they won't have to wait long to 'vote this bum out'.... once they learn that Brown does not vote with the liberal ideology in Massachusettes....Brown's seat will be up in 2012..

Crookshanks
01-19-2010, 10:52 PM
That depends on what you believe....most Progressives believe independents in Massachusetts swung Republican because voters are looking for real change in Washington...I think they voted in Brown to spit their own noses, but they won't have to wait long to 'vote this bum out'.... once they learn that Brown does not vote with the liberal ideology in Massachusettes....Brown's seat will be up in 2012..

The people in Massachusetts aren't that stupid - they know Brown is a conservative. I mean, come on, he campaigned against Obama's policies.

Regardless of how much you try to deny it, this is still a center-right country and people are very unhappy with the direction Obama and his cronies have taken us.

SnakeBoy
01-20-2010, 01:32 AM
One major difference is the Obama adminstration is stimulating spending when the economy needs it, during a recession, while the Bush administraton raised spending during 6-7 year period of economic expansion thus setting up the next administration up for failure....

Well at least you're finally admitting that Obama is a failure. Now if you can just get past blaming Bush for it. Baby Steps.

jack sommerset
01-20-2010, 02:35 AM
Well at least you're finally admitting that Obama is a failure. Now if you can just get past blaming Bush for it. Baby Steps.

*chirp chirp* Obama dems are sleeping 2night.

jack sommerset
01-20-2010, 02:37 AM
WOW..... A repug won Ted Kennedys seat, I mean the peoples seat.

jack sommerset
01-20-2010, 02:40 AM
Is CryHavoc "amazingly appalling"? the christian.

Capt Bringdown
01-20-2010, 03:34 AM
The Democrats need to go much further left to get the country back behind them...

This should be the gameplan for all democrats.

Exactly. It won't happen, though. The Dems will pull even harder right than they are now, which will only prolong America's economic hardships and ill-considered wars.

George Gervin's Afro
01-20-2010, 08:32 AM
Well at least you're finally admitting that Obama is a failure. Now if you can just get past blaming Bush for it. Baby Steps.

failure? people have short memories and he's got 3 more years to 'succeed'.

spurster
01-20-2010, 10:00 AM
I don't see anything far left in what Obama has done so far. The health care bill is corporatist. Obama's problem is that the right hates it, the left doesn't like it, and everyone else distrusts the government.

coyotes_geek
01-20-2010, 11:32 AM
I don't see anything far left in what Obama has done so far. The health care bill is corporatist. Obama's problem is that the right hates it, the left doesn't like it, and everyone else distrusts the government.

You haven't seen anything far left in what Obama has done so far because the neccessary congressional support for far left ideas just isn't there. All he's been able to do so far is maintain the Bush-era status quo of bank bailouts, political infighting, war and rampant deficit spending.

baseline bum
01-20-2010, 02:38 PM
God, I should have written far left in blue so people would get that it was a satirical statement about his campaign in my OP. Obviously Obama's campaign wasn't far left, but anything that deviates from neoliberalism is immediately labelled socialism by the dead-enders.

DarrinS
01-20-2010, 02:41 PM
failure? people have short memories and he's got 3 more years to 'succeed'.


Definitely a B+ so far.

hope4dopes
01-20-2010, 08:26 PM
:lobt2::lol:lol
Definitely a B+ so far.:lol

Yonivore
01-20-2010, 08:35 PM
failure? people have short memories and he's got 3 more years to 'succeed'.
He's got to stop digging first.

hope4dopes
01-20-2010, 08:52 PM
God, I should have written far left in blue so people would get that it was a satirical statement about his campaign in my OP. Obviously Obama's campaign wasn't far left, but anything that deviates from neoliberalism is immediately labelled socialism by the dead-enders. Yeah Rev. Wright, Bill Ayers,Van Jones,Rashid khalidi,K. jennings, they're just your run of the mill cookie baking,soccer mom,democrat precinct walkers.

baseline bum
01-20-2010, 09:06 PM
Yeah Rev. Wright, Bill Ayers,Van Jones,Rashid khalidi,K. jennings, they're just your run of the mill cookie baking,soccer mom,democrat precinct walkers.

Huh? Wright was part of your side's campaign, micca. Using that line of logic though, does that make Bush a closet gay for talking weekly with Ted Haggard?

Nbadan
01-21-2010, 12:47 AM
Huh? Wright was part of your side's campaign, micca. Using that line of logic though, does that make Bush a closet gay for talking weekly with Ted Haggard?

Pffff....sneaking in a gay prostitute posing as a wing-nut reporter in the middle of the night was proof enough for me...

Winehole23
01-21-2010, 02:45 AM
you haven't seen anything far left in what obama has done so far because the neccessary congressional support for far left ideas just isn't there. all he's been able to do so far is maintain the bush-era status quo of bank bailouts, political infighting, war and rampant deficit spending.+1