Who here believes Parker is actually a top 10 player in the league?

[IronMexican]

Inquiring minds would like to know. I doubt even frenchies believe it at this point.

[Nash2TimeMVp]

triple fuck naw

[Andrew Bynum]

He's not even a top ten player on his team.

[Bukefal]

:lol nice thread. I didnt thought you were one of them too. But I dont get all of you. What are you trying to do with this? Isnt a person entitled to his own opinion anymore? Do you try to force me to acknowledge that im wrong or something? Of course most will say no, and if they do.

Then what? What's the goal? It still is about opinions:lol

[Andrew Bynum]

:lol nice thread. I didnt thought you were one of them too. But I dont get all of you. What are you trying to do with this? Isnt a person entitled to his own opinion anymore? Do you try to force me to acknowledge that im wrong or something? Of course most will say no, and if they do.

Then what? What's the goal? It still is about opinions:lol

:lmao:lmao:lmao

[Nash2TimeMVp]

:lol nice thread. I didnt thought you were one of them too. But I dont get all of you. What are you trying to do with this? Isnt a person entitled to his own opinion anymore? Do you try to force me to acknowledge that im wrong or something? Of course most will say no, and if they do.

Then what? What's the goal? It still is about opinions:lol
he sucks

[BRHornet45]

lol come on ... is this a joke? top 25 yea, but top 10?

[Cry Havoc]

:lmao:lmao:lmao

It takes real class to laugh at someone for speaking less than perfect English when it's not their first language.

[IronMexican]

:lol nice thread. I didnt thought you were one of them too. But I dont get all of you. What are you trying to do with this? Isnt a person entitled to his own opinion anymore? Do you try to force me to acknowledge that im wrong or something? Of course most will say no, and if they do.

Then what? What's the goal? It still is about opinions:lol

Just checking how many people agree with you.

[Andrew Bynum]

It takes real class to laugh at someone for speaking less than perfect English when it's not their first language.

:lmao @ all the non american spurfans on this site.

[Bukefal]

Anyways, back on topic. I do think he is a top 10. Ive said 100 times that its Not based on how they are performing now, at the moment, currently, etc. because now he isnt and he isnt doing so well. But rather generally as a top 10 of players who are active in the NBA.

Then I do think he is a top 10. Especially last year, he has a great season, it was his best season and I do think he deserves to be mentioned as one of the best players and pg''s in the league.

If you dont agree, fine by me. Just talk or something. But dont come bitching with the sole reason, just to bitch.

[Bukefal]

:lmao:lmao:lmao

Ohh Im sorry mr.perfect if I made a mistake.

:lol Good attention.


But, How many languages do you speak? Dipshit. For someone who's english language is not his mother tongue, and for whom it is his third language, I do think I do a pretty good job in speaking it. Probably better then alot of Americans who were raised with the language. Im already glad that besides my mother tongue, I know alot other languages.

You fail, hater

[Andrew Bynum]

Ohh Im sorry mr.perfect if I made a mistake.

:lol Good attention.


But, How many languages do you speak? Dipshit. For someone who's english language is not his mother tongue, and for whom it is his third language, I do think I do a pretty good job in speaking it. Probably better then alot of Americans who were raised with the language. Im already glad that besides my mother tongue, I know alot other languages.

You fail, hater

:lmao A lot is two words, dipshit.

[StoneBuddha]

Umm, no. I don't think anyone has ever claimed that he was.

[Nash2TimeMVp]

he sucks

[BlackSwordsMan]

it's a shame shitty trolls post on this site

[Greg Oden]

it's a shame shitty trolls post on this site

Agreed, this site would be better without you.

[Andrew Bynum]

It's more of a shame non american bandwagon spurfans who can't speak english post here spewing bullshit like Tony Parker is a top ten player in the league.

[BadOdor]

Sons, frenchy bukafel thinks that parker>paul......he's basically the french version of the manu>dirk argy poster.

[BadOdor]

Sons here is the brilliant argument for why parker>paul:


Paul is more dependent on his teammates, he needs the others to set screens while Parker with his quickness can drive by himself past every defender.

[Bukefal]

Sons here is the brilliant argument for why parker>paul:

:lol why didnt you post my other posts following that one? You havent understand me correctly. Read more, before you post BS

[BadOdor]

:lol why didnt you post my other posts following that one? You havent understand me correctly. Read more, before you post BS

Sons even other spur fans think you're retarded..


lol "paul needs screens set for him while parker does it all on his own!!!"

[BadOdor]

Best point guard of all time?

1.parker
2.parker
3.dylan
4.dylan
5.dylan

[TDMVPDPOY]

top10 in league? IM drop that cock u sucking man

top10 PG then yes, but no way his near top10 player in the league

[redzero]

:lmao @ all the non american spurfans on this site.

This place would be dead without bandwagon Spurs fans.

[BadOdor]

Sons I would love to hear Bukafag's top 10 players in the league list......

[Bukefal]

I said that for Paul it is all pick/screen and roll plays for him, and that that's the only way he is solid and dangerous. Then I said in that way TP is more independent because TP has more quality to create himself a way to the basket, TP is better in penetrating to the basket.

And then you will say; 'look at pauls stats!'. Well yeah, Paul puts up more numbers, because the whole team is envolving about and around him, he is the main thing for the team, everything goes thru and to the guy, everything is set up just for him. It doesnt mean Paul is better, it's just that he is the main focus on his team, that's why he is putting more numbers up than TP.

TP could also put up the same high numbers game after game, if he had the same role as paul in his team, but TP can't, because it doesnt fit in the spurs system. Its not all going thru TP. The spurs have other quality players, hornets do not really.

Then I said that if Paul would play at a team like the Spurs, it wouldnt be all involving around him. he wouldnt be the main focus of the team. His numbers would go down drastically and he would be very dissapointing.

So Paul is depending more on what others on his team create for him, everything goes to and thru him, he is depending more on the main role they give him. But when that's not the case anymore, Paul will be dissapointing and I think less better than TP.

Besides, I think Paul is just overrated.

[Fpoonsie]

Is this a joke?

For the first time in my ST life, I have to echo LL's sentiments.

Did someone say he was?

[dirk4mvp]

Paul shoots a higher FG% and a much higher 3% and FT%. Paul > Parker, in every way.

[BadOdor]

For the first time in my ST life, I have to echo LL's sentiments.

Did someone say he was?

Son, not only top 10, but the same frenchy poster thinks he's better than paul....

God save us all sons....

[Bukefal]

Sons I would love to hear Bukafag's top 10 players in the league list......

Yeah, because i am a argie and a frenchie, that would probably be:"

1Parker
2Manu
3Parker
4Manu
5Parker
6Manu
7Parker
8Manu
9Parker
10Manu

Isnt that right, dipshit? You seem to know everything better, but still do not even know the basics of geography, let's not even talk about something else :rollin

:lol

[BadOdor]

Paul shoots a higher FG% and a much higher 3% and FT%. Paul > Parker, in every way.

Sons, didn't you hear? if they switched rols, parker would be putting 11 assists a game, no sweat.

[spursfan09]

I dont really hear people throw his name around for top 10.

[Nash2TimeMVp]

he sucks

[baseline bum]

You could have made a top 20 or maybe even a top 15 argument last season, but this season? I don't even think he's top 30-40 currently.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

:lmao Paul < Parker, im sure that's why SA made that offer

[Bukefal]

You could have made a top 20 or maybe even a top 15 argument last season, but this season? I don't even think he's top 30-40 currently.

Read people, read. I wasn't talking about this season, nor based on his current performances from the recent months. How many times do i have to say that. This season he isn't, he isnt doing so good comparing to what we are used of him. Based on this season, Parker is no way in top 10, he would be much and much below. But I was talking in general as players who are active in the league nowadays, and about last year, his best year and before.

If you look at such a list solely based on performance from this season and from the recent months, than you could also say Jennings should be in a high list. But he isnt and shouldnt be. Im talking about everything in general

[BadOdor]

Lol, so because parker got hot for 2 months last year, he gets "top-10" status??!!

What kind of stupid argument is that?

[Bukefal]

Lol, so because parker got hot for 2 months last year, he gets "top-10" status??!!

What kind of stupid argument is that?

:lol you suck

[baseline bum]

Read people, read. I wasn't talking about this season, nor based on his current performances from the recent months. How many times do i have to say that. This season he isn't, he isnt doing so good comparing to what we are used of him. Based on this season, Parker is no way in top 10, he would be much and much below. But I was talking in general as players who are active in the league nowadays, and about last year, his best year and before.

If you look at such a list solely based on performance from this season and from the recent months, than you could also say Jennings should be in a high list. But he isnt and shouldnt be. Im talking about everything in general

I was responding to the OP.

[BadOdor]

:lol you suck

Sp parker>paul based on last season?:lol:lol:lol

[Bukefal]

I was responding to the OP.

ok :toast

[Reeko_Htown]

AB is better than Parker right now.

[Bukefal]

AB is better than Parker right now.

You must be kidding me :lol It's not about right now.

[BadOdor]

You must be kidding me :lol It's not about right now.

Sons, Shaq is a top 10 player.

He used to really beast it up back in 2002.

[SpursNextRomanEmpire]

this is so stupid

[Bukefal]

Sons, Shaq is a top 10 player.

He used to really beast it up back in 2002.

:lol

You really keep it going, you must have a huge issue with this.

[Hank the Tank]

Bukefal just post your top 10. I want to see it.

[Bukefal]

Well, I think this would be pretty much it.
I dont really like these list ordening, Ive said before, they dont say anything really and it's hard to order them with so much more than 10 solid players, Everything is relative, that's why I put them in no particular order except for the first 3 and lebron over Kobe.

Lebron, Kobe, Wade, Howard, Anthony, Duncan, Nowitzki, Parker, Gasol, Nash

And then you will have; Paul, Roy, Durant, Deron, Bosh

[Bukefal]

Yeah, there you go. Do you all need to approve it first? Wether you disagree with me for this being my opinion and then of course feeling the need to bitch on and on, just because you think otherwise and because that's the only thing you are looking for? And because you have a lack of culture in accepting other opinions and start hating filled with hypocrasy? ay Mavsfans? Hypocrites, bitching, but if some fans say something about your beloved dirk, you all get crazy and BUTTHURT :lol :rollin

:toast Cheers

[kamikazi_player]

Agreed, this site would be better without you.
lol stupid trolls getting more post than me.
get a life dirk4mvp

[Greg Oden]

why are you thinking about another dude? are you gay?

[kamikazi_player]

we all know its you

[Greg Oden]

cool story bro.

have any more?

[kamikazi_player]

see how fast he responded, what a cuckold

[Greg Oden]

so you're not only gay but you take other people's schticks? neat.

nice throwaway message board line :tu

[kamikazi_player]

your lol's are so original :rolleyes

[Greg Oden]

taking people's schticks - original :tu

[lefty]

Inquiring minds would like to know. I doubt even frenchies believe it at this point.
TP is not French

He is half American, half Dutch, and was born in Belgium :eyebrows

[z0sa]

lol @ anyone who thinks Parker has ever been a top10 player in this league. Top 25 last couple years, not even that anymore.

[sonic21]

lol @ this thread. French posters never said tony was top 10. The only poster who believe this is not french.

[Bukefal]

lol @ this thread. French posters never said tony was top 10. The only poster who believe this is not french.

If I remember it correctly, you've posted also that TP was top 10, based on last year and not this season. And it's not based on his performances of this season. And your French right?

[sonic21]

If I remember it correctly, you've posted also that TP was top 10, based on last year and not this season. And it's not based on his performances of this season. And your French right?

no, i said tony was top 10 last year (only that year). This season was an anomaly for him though.

[Bukefal]

Ok, well Im not talking about this season either. This season he isnt because he isnt doing so well, and certainly not what we expect from him, especially after last year. So I dont base it on his recent performances.

But well, it doesnt matter.

[mystargtr34]

Even last year when he was going for 22-4-7 on 50%+ i would struggle to put him in the top 10 (Although he would be close). This season, not even close, maybe Top 30. He's struggled badly through a combination of fatigue from NT play in the summer and plantar fascitis, i guess they go hand in hand.

[benefactor]

Well, I think this would be pretty much it.
I dont really like these list ordening, Ive said before, they dont say anything really and it's hard to order them with so much more than 10 solid players, Everything is relative, that's why I put them in no particular order except for the first 3 and lebron over Kobe.

Lebron, Kobe, Wade, Howard, Anthony, Duncan, Nowitzki, Parker, Gasol, Nash

And then you will have; Paul, Roy, Durant, Deron, Bosh
I would take those last five over Parker pretty easily. I would also take Paul Pierce, Joe Johnson, Derrick Rose, Chauncey Billups, Rashard Lewis and O.J. Mayo over Parker. There are probably others, but I'd have to think about it and get back to you.

[Bukefal]

I would take those last five over Parker pretty easily. I would also take Paul Pierce, Joe Johnson, Derrick Rose, Chauncey Billups, Rashard Lewis and O.J. Mayo over Parker. There are probably others, but I'd have to think about it and get back to you.

Man, you don't have to :) I dont really have a big deal with it. I was just posting and responding because others seem to have a problem with my opinions and asked me for a list.

Everyone thinks otherwise and everyone has his own thoughts and lists and preferences, it doesn't really matter to me. I know you would take them over parker and I know others would not even consider to put parker in. Which is fine by me

:toast cheers

[DxB]

You're all fags except Bukefal.

All this shit started coz he said Parker was a top 10 player in the league? Is it reall THAT bad of a statement? Whose fucking god did he just diss that it causes 3 pages of utter bullshit?

Fact is, I've seen idiots who are Greg Oden and Andrew Bynum fans talkin bout how their guys are gonna do this and that and how great they are.... if these homos are allowed to have an opinion on their injury prone soft fkin faggot ass players, why the fuck is this guy getting so much heat for Tony Parker?

All of you need to chill the fuck out. Tony Parker WAS a top 10 player last year, he's not this year, he might be again next year. Thats it, STFU.

[Kamnik]

He is not. But he is maybe top 20.

[stretch]

Well, I think this would be pretty much it.
I dont really like these list ordening, Ive said before, they dont say anything really and it's hard to order them with so much more than 10 solid players, Everything is relative, that's why I put them in no particular order except for the first 3 and lebron over Kobe.

Lebron, Kobe, Wade, Howard, Anthony, Duncan, Nowitzki, Parker, Gasol, Nash

And then you will have; Paul, Roy, Durant, Deron, Bosh

ROFL ROFL ROFL

D-12 over Carmello, Dirk, Duncan, CP3, Nash, Durant, and Roy?

:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin: rollin:rollin:rollin

[Bukefal]

Dipshit you cannot even read. It's pointless to even have talk with you. As I said, you should just go on with doing what you do best, posting; lol and lol and rofl and crofl and lmao :lol

:toast mavsfan

[egtonecity]

I definitely think Parker is in the Top 5 players in the league .... We're talkin' bout Candace, right???

[ffadicted]

Last year, you could make an argument for sure. This year, nah lol

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Is it reall THAT bad of a statement?


Yes, it is you dumb mutherfucker.

[Bukefal]

People, cant you read? We're not talking about his performances based on this season.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

I would take those last five over Parker pretty easily.


So would anyone who hasn't suffered from severe frontal lobe damage.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

People, cant you read? We're not talking about his performances based on this season.


So you're calling him a top 10 player based on one fluke career season he had last year, and you're pretending this season isn't happening right now?

[Bukefal]

So you're calling him a top 10 player based on one fluke career season he had last year, and you're pretending this season isn't happening right now?

Just because a player is currently doing not so well, instead of what we are used to of him, and because he has fatigue and apparently an injury doesnt mean he is shit. Because he can and we all know he can, we all see that he isnt himself right now.

Man, even if he was doing wonderful, like has done over the recent years, you would still hate. It's just something you have something against probably.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Just because a player is currently doing not so well, instead of what we are used to of him, and because he has fatigue and apparently an injury doesnt mean he is shit. Because he can and we all know he can, we all see that he isnt himself right now.

Man, even if he was doing wonderful, like has done over the recent years, you would still hate. It's just something you have something against probably.


Other than the 2009 season Parker has never averaged more than 19 PPG, he's not a top 10 player. Quit acting like the 2009 Parker is the player Parker has consistently been his entire career.

[Bukefal]

Ok Mr. DuncanownsKobe, that has a reason if you think about it. But its pointless. You think what you want, fine by me, I think what I want. We can go on and on for 2 years arguing. It's getting tired and annoying all the bashing and trolling.

now, let's just toast on a nice season :toast

[Bukefal]

And for all of you in general, especially the ones talking about comparing Parker and Paul with stats. Stats do not say so much, keep that in mind. You should look beyond. But, maybe you can't?

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Stats do not say so much


ok

[Bukefal]

ok

Yeah pointing on the Parker-Paul situation, they don't.

[phxspurfan]

Top 10 (In Order):

1. LeBron
2. Bryant
3. Wade
4. Duncan
5. Nowitzki
6. Paul
7. Durant
8. Bosh
9. Roy
10. Howard

Next 10 (in order):
11. Anthony
12. Stoudemire
13. Granger
14. Garnett
15. Pierce
16. Johnson
17. Gasol
18. Nash
19. Williams
20. Yao (injured)