Which team is better?

[Findog]

Grizzlies or Spurs?

[Double-Up]

Memphis no doubt, and that's really pretty fucking sad.

[leemajors]

Grizz

[Chieflion]

There is no denying that the Grizzlies are the better team.

[jb4g]

Grizz..and its not even close right now.

[Findog]

The Spurs still have a big advantage over the Grizz in one metric.

[Findog]

Spurs have a -1 Road Win/Home Loss Differential, are 8-15 against teams with winning records, and have played 26 home games and 17 road games. Their point differential, however, is 4.9

The Grizz have a +2 Road Win/Home Loss Differential, are 13-12 against teams with winning records, and have played 22 home games and 21 road games. Their point differential, however, is only 0.2

[Double-Up]

Spurs have a -1 Road Win/Home Loss Differential, are 8-15 against teams with winning records, and have played 26 home games and 17 road games. Their point differential, however, is 4.9

The Grizz have a +2 Road Win/Home Loss Differential, are 13-12 against teams with winning records, and have played 22 home games and 21 road games. Their point differential, however, is only 0.2

So we can say the difference is attributed more to the schedule than individual play, if so Memphis owns in that regard also.

[z0sa]

You must really be curious

[Findog]

So we can say the difference is attributed more to the schedule than individual play, if so Memphis owns in that regard also.

Basically my only theory for the point differential is that the Spurs are whipping bad teams and losing to good ones.

[Fpoonsie]

I miss the days when I could bring up the "well, yeah, but in a 7 game series"...and say it with some conviction.

[sigh]

[Findog]

Other thing is Memphis is 17-5 at home. All of the sudden the Fed Ex Forum has become a tough place to win for visiting teams.

[Fpoonsie]

I miss the days when the AT&T/SBC center was a "tough place to win"...

[sigh]

[21_Blessings]

Grizz..and its not even close right now.

:flag:

[lil_penny]

This is no fluke, grizz have all the talent to keep this up imo.

[DAF86]

You can't see who voted for whom...gay.

[IronMexican]

Grizz. Not even trying to kick SA while they are down. I just feel Memphis is better.

[sonic21]

Grizz

[Ghazi]

I would still take the Spurs in a 7 game series. Could not imagine a team with Duncan/Manu/Parker losing to a team led by Gay/Mayo/Randolph.

[mavs>spurs2]

I would still take the Spurs in a 7 game series. Could not imagine a team with Duncan/Manu/Parker losing to a team led by Gay/Mayo/Randolph.

At this point, Randolph would make Duncan his bitch. Dude is a 20-20 machine, and I'm not talking about his eyesight.

[badfish22]

I would rather have the Mavs play the Spurs than the Grizz in the PO's thats for sure.

[j.dizzle]

Ill take the spurs cuz Memphis has no playoff experience but the Spurs are definitely lacking some athletic bigs which would get lit up by Zach, Gasol, Mayo, Gay, etc..god dman Memphis has a really good starting 5 actually haha..SA just looks really bad on D & Pop is doing a shitty job.

[Allanon]

Well, Spurs play Grizz on Friday so we'll have a good look at a head to head.

Spurs already lost the first matchup with 3 games left; if the Spurs keep fucking around they might get another wrong kind of sweep.

[in2deep]

it's only January

[dirk4mvp]

Grizzlies.

Mayo/Gay/Randolph/Gasol > Parker/Manu/Dick/Duncan

[Allanon]

BTW, vote fail.

WTF, a closed poll amongst friends? :)

[hater]

sad thing for mavfan must be that even with how horrible Spurs are losing, they are still within striking distance of the division lead :lol

[Ghazi]

sad thing for mavfan must be that even with how horrible Spurs are losing, they are still within striking distance of the division lead :lol

Delusional.

[hater]

Delusional.

truth hurts huh?

[Ghazi]

3.5 games is a pretty big gap given the remaining schedules.

It'll take a fluke for the Mavs to finish behind the Spurs.

[DAF86]

Grizz > Spurs > Mavs

[hater]

3.5 games is a pretty big gap given the remaining schedules.

It'll take a fluke for the Mavs to finish behind the Spurs.

3.5 games is not a big gap with 40 games to go in the season.

is it likely? no. But point is, it's comical mavfan makes this thread when the Mavs are not clearly better than Spurs or Griz

[Ghazi]

Mavs are clearly better than the Spurs right now.

[Findog]

Grizz > Spurs > Mavs

Hilarious

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=145250

[Warlord23]

Grizz are clearly better right now, with an even brighter future. Meanwhile, Pop and his inexplicable penchant for small-balling the Spurs out of contention has made him the new Al Davis of the NBA.

[Findog]

Zach Randolph - 37 mpg
Rudy Gay - 39 mpg
OJ Mayo - 38 mpg
Marc Gasol - 35 mpg
Mike Conley - 30 mpg

Tim Duncan - 32 mpg
Tony Parker - 32 mpg
Manu Ginobili - 26 mpg
Dick Jefferson - 30 mpg
George Hill - 25 mph

Of course, the Grizz have a much younger core, so they can probably absorb those minutes easier than the Spurs, which is why Pop is holding his guys PT down.

[BlackSwordsMan]

lol spurms

[JoeTait75]

Talent-wise, especially in the starting five, Memphis is better. They're younger, they're more athletic and they're more explosive. But experience is so big in this game that, should the teams play in a best-of-seven series, I'd pick San Antonio.

It reminds me a little of that series in 1999 between Utah and Sacramento. The Kings were faster and more dynamic, but the Jazz just knew how to win in tight playoff situations, and that was the difference. I think a series between the Spurs and Grizzlies would play out in much the same way.

[Xylus]

The Spurs would beat the Grizz in a playoff series, without a doubt in my mind.

[Findog]

^ In that case, Utah should've beaten Dallas in 2001. I agree that the Spurs would probably beat Memphis in a series, but it would absolutely not be easy for them.

[Xylus]

^ In that case, Utah should've beaten Dallas in 2001. I agree that the Spurs would probably beat Memphis in a series, but it would absolutely not be easy for them.

Of course it's a possibility, but I'm like 99% sure the Spurs would take it. I'd be sure enough to put money on it.

[Findog]

Of course it's a possibility, but I'm like 99% sure the Spurs would take it. I'd be sure enough to put money on it.

Sure enough to bet the sexual honor of your wife/gf/significant other on it? As in, she has to sleep with the winner of the bet?

[JoeTait75]

^ In that case, Utah should've beaten Dallas in 2001. I agree that the Spurs would probably beat Memphis in a series, but it would absolutely not be easy for them.

Dallas was a 53-win team in 2001. I don't think Memphis is quite at that level yet.

[Findog]

Dallas was a 53-win team in 2001. I don't think Memphis is quite at that level yet.

They started 1-8 and they're now 24-19.

[Xylus]

Sure enough to bet the sexual honor of your wife/gf/significant other on it? As in, she has to sleep with the winner of the bet?

Depends on who I was betting against.

[Findog]

Depends on who I was betting against.

Who are you not okay with taking your woman on a bet?

[leemajors]

Talent-wise, especially in the starting five, Memphis is better. They're younger, they're more athletic and they're more explosive. But experience is so big in this game that, should the teams play in a best-of-seven series, I'd pick San Antonio.

It reminds me a little of that series in 1999 between Utah and Sacramento. The Kings were faster and more dynamic, but the Jazz just knew how to win in tight playoff situations, and that was the difference. I think a series between the Spurs and Grizzlies would play out in much the same way.

That would be true if the Spurs were capable of getting stops late. They haven't shown any of that ability recently, and with micro-ball on the floor late Memphis could probably score at will.

[Xylus]

Who are you not okay with taking your woman on a bet?

Any member of SpursTalk.

[Bukefal]

^ In that case, Utah should've beaten Dallas in 2001. I agree that the Spurs would probably beat Memphis in a series, but it would absolutely not be easy for them.

Yeah It won't be easy, but still the Spurs are better. You say it yourself, the Spurs would probably beat Memphis in a series.

Memphis is doing quite well I agree and it would not be easy of course, but no, they are not better than the Spurs. Besides, nothing is really easy right now in the western conference.

[Xylus]

In fact, my fiancee and I have agreed that if Goran Dragic offers himself to her, then she has the green light.

[Cane]

A better question would be: Will Memphis be able to fill their stadium if they keep winning and make the playoffs?

They're currently second worst http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=4413

[Findog]

Keep in mind also that Memphis is on a 23-11 roll.

[Findog]

A better question would be: Will Memphis be able to fill their stadium if they keep winning and make the playoffs?

They're currently second worst http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=4413

They'll start drawing better if they keep this up. See New Orleans, spring 2008.

[namlook]

Playing better right now? Grizz.

In a 7 game playoff series? Spurs, easily.

[DAF86]

Mavs are clearly better than the Spurs right now.


Hilarious

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=145250

lol MavsFans

[Findog]

lol MavsFans

lol Manu > Dirk debaters.

[DAF86]

lol Manu > Dirk debaters.

lol Woody Harrelson

[Findog]

lol Woody Harrelson

Is that some sort of burn?

[ulosturedge]

Well honestly if you can actually get to the point where you are making a "Grizzlies vs Spurs" thread then you know the Spurs are pretty much garbage right now lol. No pun against the grizzlies. I'm just sayin'.

[21_Blessings]

First year playoff teams with a bunch inexperienced players don't usually do well in the playoffs. I wouldn't bet against the Spurs. Nor would I bet on them considering how bad they were ass-raped by Dallas last year in the 1st round.

But Memphis definitely has a future where the Spurs have been irrelevant since 2008.

[ElNono]

:rolleyes

[benefactor]

Hmm....

[WalterSobchak]

First year playoff teams with a bunch inexperienced players don't usually do well in the playoffs. I wouldn't bet against the Spurs. Nor would I bet on them considering how bad they were ass-raped by Dallas last year in the 1st round.

But Memphis definitely has a future where the Spurs have been irrelevant since 2008.


Cool story douche bag

[Spursfan092120]

There is no denying that the Grizzlies are the better team.
http://www.readthesmiths.com/articles/Images/Humor/Fail/9vfxa8.jpg.gif

[Spursfan092120]

http://i612.photobucket.com/albums/tt208/erdooley/fail_thread2.jpg


/thread

[dirk4mvp]

So the Spurs beat them once after they lost to the very same team not long ago, and it debunks this thread? Neat.

[ElNono]

So the Spurs beat them once after they lost to the very same team not long ago, and it debunks this thread? Neat.

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj300/Zhusuke/CoolStoryBro.jpg

[WalterSobchak]

So the Spurs beat them once after they lost to the very same team not long ago, and it debunks this thread? Neat.

LOL. No Amare in the 4th qtr and Suns still win. :lmao

[mystargtr34]

So the Spurs beat them once after they lost to the very same team not long ago, and it debunks this thread? Neat.

Dont be butthurt - the Griz are still legit.

[dirk4mvp]

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj300/Zhusuke/CoolStoryBro.jpg

great! you can find images and post them!


LOL. No Amare in the 4th qtr and Suns still win. :lmao

LOL. No funny or in character posts from this shit troll but the movie is still good.:lmao



Dont be butthurt - the Griz are still legit.

I'm not. January championship!

[WalterSobchak]

great! you can find images and post them!



LOL. No funny or in character posts from this shit troll but the movie is still good.:lmao



I'm not. January championship!


Your out of your element. How's that? :toast

[dirk4mvp]

Your out of your element. How's that? :toast

Thanks for sharing!

[WalterSobchak]

Thanks for sharing!

No problem. Nihilist

[Allanon]

The Spurs and Memphis series is now tied up.

2 more games to go to determine Division supremacy.

[WalterSobchak]

The Spurs and Memphis series is now tied up.

2 more games to go to determine Division supremacy.


LOL I agree! :toast

[Spursfan092120]

So the Spurs beat them once after they lost to the very same team not long ago, and it debunks this thread? Neat.
No...The Spurs minus Tony Parker completely outhustle the much younger Grizzlies team and get the victory and it completely debunks this thread. Knowledgeable fans understand the maturity level of the Spurs is above the Grizzlies athleticism. Just because the Grizz beat the Spurs earlier in the season doesn't mean they're better. I guess Oklahoma City is better than Denver, huh? Stupid comment. If you want to get down to brass tacks, it's the fact that the Spurs have won two more games and lost two less games than Memphis that makes them better.

[Spursfan092120]

I'm not. January championship!
Being a Mavs fan you would definitely know about regular season championships.

[underdawg]

Thanks for sharing!

don't forget to call him fat!

[dirk4mvp]

Being a Mavs fan you would definitely know about regular season championships.

good one! you really showed me there!

Dallas > San Antonio

[Spursfan092120]

good one! you really showed me there!

Dallas > San Antonio
Currently? Yes..because of their record. Playoff time? :lmao:lmao:lmao

Yeah, not happening.

::Oh..but we beat you 4 games to 1 last year..I know you didn't have Manu..but we still won. We got the first round trophy..we're so much better than the Spurs::

and yeah..I'm gonna throw it out there..

4 rings faggot.

[dirk4mvp]

It's not really a question as to whether the Mavericks are a better team, now or playoff time. Does it suck that everyone thinks you're retarded?

[ezau]

Sad that the only thing Dallas can hold on to is that they beat the Spurs in the playoffs. It's tough to be a Mavs fan still thinking what could've happened had their team didn't choke in 06 and 07. Ooops

[dirk4mvp]

Original take! Never seen anything like it!

[ezau]

2006 and 2007

[ElNono]

Original take! Never seen anything like it!

Who said we need to be original?

On that vein, four rings douchey...

[dirk4mvp]

Who said we need to be original?

On that vein, four rings douchey...

Neat!

[mystargtr34]

Funniest part is Findog waiting untill the Spurs hit a skid to post another one of these 'real standings' threads :lol.

[NRHector]

Who said we need to be original?

On that vein, four rings douchey...:lol

[lennyalderette]

mavs fans look it up once a choker always a choker "dirk" that is, people get major mental blocks if he hasnt won a championship heading into his 30s its highly unlikely for him to win one with the same team. And yes this means you dallas mavericks

[pauls931]

Right now, the Spurs, barely.

[Agloco]

It's not really a question as to whether the Mavericks are a better team, now or playoff time. Does it suck that everyone thinks you're retarded?


Original take! Never seen anything like it!


Neat!

The exit sign for your trailer park was 2 miles back. When you talk shit, it really does help if your team has done something during it's long illustrious history.

A la taunting on a long touchdown run with your team down 42-7 late in the fourth.....:rolleyes

[dirk4mvp]

The exit sign for your trailer park was 2 miles back. When you talk shit, it really does help if your team has done something during it's long illustrious history.

A la taunting on a long touchdown run with your team down 42-7 late in the fourth.....:rolleyes

lol at a mexican in san antonio running trailer park smack. That's rich. You don't see Celtic fans calling others pale drunk gingers do you?

[Spursfan092120]

It's not really a question as to whether the Mavericks are a better team, now or playoff time. Does it suck that everyone thinks you're retarded?
:lmao
it's better to let people think I'm retarded than say things like you do and make it obvious.

[Spursfan092120]

lol at a mexican in san antonio running trailer park smack. That's rich. You don't see Celtic fans calling others pale drunk gingers do you?
lol at thinking there's a lot of trailer parks in San Antonio.