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Nbadan
01-28-2010, 01:01 AM
Looks like a lot of people liked what they heard, despite the GOP spin about the speech's 'tone'.


CBS News conducted an instant poll with Knowledge Networks immediately following President Obama's State of the Union address. Here are some of the highlights:

• 83% of speech watchers approve of the proposals the president made in his speech tonight. 17% Disapprove.

• 70% of speech watchers think Barack Obama shares the same priorities for the country as they do. 57% thought so before the speech.

• 59% of speech watchers think that Barack Obama has a clear plan for creating jobs. 40% thought so before the speech.

• 72% of speech watchers approve of Barack Obama's plans for dealing with government spending. 28% Disapprove. .

• 56% of speech watchers think Barack Obama's economic plans will reduce the budget deficit in the long run, and 71% think they will help ordinary Americans.

• Still, just 42% of speech watchers think that Barack Obama will be able to accomplish all the goals he set out in his speech tonight. 57% do not think he will be able to.

522 speech watchers participated in the poll. The margin of error was 4 percent.

CBS (http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2010/01/27/politics/politi...)


Given so many people like the President's direction, if he can deliver at least on 1/2 of it.....can you say 'shoe in' in 2012

GOP obstructionism not withstanding....

symple19
01-28-2010, 06:47 AM
Looks like a lot of people liked what they heard, despite the GOP spin about the speech's 'tone'.



CBS (http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2010/01/27/politics/politi...)


Given so many people like the President's direction, if he can deliver at least on 1/2 of it.....can you say 'shoe in' in 2012

GOP obstructionism not withstanding....

let's go ahead and make a shitload of assumptions based on fat, stupid, lazy Americans who decide to answer their phone after a SOU address and enjoy watching Couric fellate the administration(the same goes for you repugs who listen to Rush and co, there's no difference).

Genius

Baaaaaaaaaa Baaaaaaaaaaaaaa Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

http://ocw.usu.edu/University_Extension/sheep-and-lambing-management/sheep.jpg

jack sommerset
01-28-2010, 08:43 AM
let's go ahead and make a shitload of assumptions based on fat, stupid, lazy Americans who decide to answer their phone after a SOU address and enjoy watching Couric fellate the administration(the same goes for you repugs who listen to Rush and co, there's no difference).

Genius

Baaaaaaaaaa Baaaaaaaaaaaaaa Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

http://ocw.usu.edu/University_Extension/sheep-and-lambing-management/sheep.jpg

:lol and LOL at Obama's speech!!!!

TheProfessor
01-28-2010, 09:17 AM
These polls, as the article notes, skew towards the sitting president's party. What's most interesting is that the SOTU appealed to independents, which I believe was his goal. That's where they lost their way in Massachusetts. Also, throwing bipartisan bones like off-shore drilling and nuclear power was a good balance to addressing environmental concerns.

But you have to remember - if you promise that much, and don't deliver at least substantially, there will be repercussions. One of Obama's big problems this last year was taking on too much and not being able to point to a specific major legislative victory other than the bailout. He's got enough time, but I have little faith in Congress to actually see much of it through.

coyotes_geek
01-28-2010, 09:23 AM
Gee, I wonder if polling twice as many democrats as republicans had any affect on the results..............


Forty-four percent of speech viewers in this poll described themselves as Democrats while only 21 percent said they were Republican.

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2010/01/27/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry6149049.shtml?tag=cbsnewsSectionsArea;cbsnews SectionsArea.2

TheProfessor
01-28-2010, 09:31 AM
Gee, I wonder if polling twice as many democrats as republicans had any affect on the results..............


An overwhelming 99% of Democrats and 79% of independents approve of the proposals in the speech, and even 57% of Republicans watching the speech approve.

The overall results of the poll are skewed, but the internals show pretty widespread support.

coyotes_geek
01-28-2010, 09:42 AM
The overall results of the poll are skewed, but the internals show pretty widespread support.

It's not like anyone out there is against jobs. So yeah, if the president says he wants to create jobs and then you ask a bunch of people if they support the idea of creating jobs then it pretty much stands to reason that you're going to end up with a poll that shows "widespread support for the president's ideas". But what does that really prove other than the fact that people like the idea of being employed?

George Gervin's Afro
01-28-2010, 09:46 AM
It's not like anyone out there is against jobs. So yeah, if the president says he wants to create jobs and then you ask a bunch of people if they support the idea of creating jobs then it pretty much stands to reason that you're going to end up with a poll that shows "widespread support for the president's ideas". But what does that really prove other than the fact that people like the idea of being employed?

are you for against using polls as political ammunition?

TheProfessor
01-28-2010, 09:53 AM
It's not like anyone out there is against jobs. So yeah, if the president says he wants to create jobs and then you ask a bunch of people if they support the idea of creating jobs then it pretty much stands to reason that you're going to end up with a poll that shows "widespread support for the president's ideas". But what does that really prove other than the fact that people like the idea of being employed?
To be fair, you brought up the "skewed Democratic" thing, I was addressing that. And yes, no one's against job creation, but it does show that independents aren't running away from Obama, as many suggested the Massachusetts election suggested.

coyotes_geek
01-28-2010, 10:01 AM
are you for against using polls as political ammunition?

Depends what you asked, who you sampled and how you intend to use the results. Polls can provide useful information, they can also be twisted and manipulated.

Stump
01-28-2010, 10:21 AM
How are any of these stats surprising? Obama is known to be a great speaker with great ideas, but struggles in putting them into application.

One of the most telling things to me is that despite the overwhelming majority supporting the speech, only 42% think he can live up to it. I'm sure sure how skewed last night's audience was in favor of democrats and independents, but if it's significant at all, Obama needs to be concerned that only 42% of that crowd fully trusts him even after listening to a solid speech about his plans for the future.

coyotes_geek
01-28-2010, 10:27 AM
To be fair, you brought up the "skewed Democratic" thing, I was addressing that. And yes, no one's against job creation, but it does show that independents aren't running away from Obama, as many suggested the Massachusetts election suggested.

It shows that independents aren't running away from a guy who says he's for the same things that most everyone else is for. We're all for jobs, we're all for fiscal responsibility, we're all for getting health care costs under control, and we're definitely all for the government giving us money in one form or another. What will determine whether or not independents stay with Obama is how he goes about trying to achieve those goals, because that's where the disagreements amongst the people start. We're all for job creation. We're not all going to be for the government maintaining trillion dollar deficits to do it.

SAGambler
01-28-2010, 03:45 PM
CBS News conducted an instant poll with Knowledge Networks immediately following President Obama's State of the Union address. Here are some of the highlights:

• 83% of speech watchers approve of the proposals the president made in his speech tonight. 17% Disapprove.

• 70% of speech watchers think Barack Obama shares the same priorities for the country as they do. 57% thought so before the speech.

Why? Because all of a sudden he had done the Demo Flip Flop about what his "main agenda" is going to be all about. Bullshit!

• 59% of speech watchers think that Barack Obama has a clear plan for creating jobs. 40% thought so before the speech.

First tell me how any President can "create" jobs outside of government. And if he had such a "clear plan", why has it taken him a year to start it? Remember he had a "clear plan" before he was elected. Instead we have lost another 5-8 million since the day he took office.

• 72% of speech watchers approve of Barack Obama's plans for dealing with government spending. 28% Disapprove. .

You mean spend some more? Because that is what he will do. Meaningless mouthings.

• 56% of speech watchers think Barack Obama's economic plans will reduce the budget deficit in the long run, and 71% think they will help ordinary Americans.

Not my fault so many Americans are taken in by rhetoric.

• Still, just 42% of speech watchers think that Barack Obama will be able to accomplish all the goals he set out in his speech tonight. 57% do not think he will be able to.

Well, at least they aren't completely stupid and blind.

522 speech watchers participated in the poll. The margin of error was 4 percent.