Say Something Nice about Obama

[Sportcamper]

I got to say that Obama showed real moxie last night….I like the new Obama…The guy willing to take on corruption & mistakes made by everyone…Demos, Republicans, bankers, court justices, special interest groups…I hope he can govern like a guy running for one term instead of these politicians who are more concerned with empire building…:tu

[EmptyMan]

lol @ those empty words pumping you up

Moxie :rollin

[DarrinS]

Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.

[George Gervin's Afro]

lol @ those empty words pumping you up

Moxie :rollin

so which president's SOU speech pumped you up?

[DarrinS]

so which president's SOU speech pumped you up?



They aren't supposed to be pep rallies or "state of the agenda" speeches. They are supposed to be about the actual state that the country is in.

[Sportcamper]

Sooo…You guys can not say "one nice thing" about the President of the Untied States?

[DarrinS]

Sooo…You guys can not say "one nice thing" about the President of the Untied States?


He uses my preferred pronunciation of the word "nuclear".

[Sportcamper]

Obama did more for the middle class this year than any president since Ronald Regan…

1-Tax credit for dependents was doubled this year…
2-Income tax & DMV fees for new car purchase was deductible…
3-Cash for Clunkers program…
4-New college assistance for dependents…

[TeyshaBlue]

Obama did more for the middle class this year than any president since Ronald Regan…

1-Tax credit for dependents was doubled this year…
2-Income tax & DMV fees for new car purchase was deductible…
3-Cash for Clunkers program…
4-New college assistance for dependents…

1. No it wasn't. Tax credit for child care expenses. Thanks, Obama. My youngest is 15.
2. Irrelevant for Texans.
3. That was pretty sweet. Couldn't use it, but alot did.
4. I haven't seen one, thin dime of this, but I only have one child in college now.

[TeyshaBlue]

Oh, and my nice thing to say is:

He actually seems to handle foreign policy pretty well. I thought his handling of the whole missle shield issue in Europe was pretty adept.

[coyotes_geek]

Obama did more for the middle class this year than any president since Ronald Regan…

1-Tax credit for dependents was doubled this year…
2-Income tax & DMV fees for new car purchase was deductible…
3-Cash for Clunkers program…
4-New college assistance for dependents…

Giving away money is always popular with the electorate. Unless of course you're Bush in which case it's evil if you cut taxes.

[coyotes_geek]

Oh, and my nice thing to say is:

He actually seems to handle foreign policy pretty well. I thought his handling of the whole missle shield issue in Europe was pretty adept.

Agreed. I'll add the Haiti earthquake to that list. I think he's handling that situation about as well as anyone could. I also support most of what he's advocating from a consumer protection agency.

[DarrinS]

Somali pirate situation was well played.

[Sportcamper]

Coyote- This is not giving away money…This is about taking less from the middle class…I am going to vote for the guy that takes less from my paycheck & gives me incentives for purchases…

[Bender]

President of the Untied States
I don't know if that was on purpose, but... good description of the country.

[coyotes_geek]

Coyote- This is not giving away money…This is about taking less from the middle class…I am going to vote for the guy that takes less from my paycheck & gives me incentives for purchases…

So you voted for McCain then.

[George Gervin's Afro]

Giving away money is always popular with the electorate. Unless of course you're Bush in which case it's evil if you cut taxes.

I can't recall anyone ever claiming tax cuts were evil.

[hater]

got a nice tan

[coyotes_geek]

I can't recall anyone ever claiming tax cuts were evil.

No one ever criticized Bush's tax cuts?

[TeyshaBlue]

No one ever criticized Bush's tax cuts?

:lmao:lmao:lmao

[DarkReign]

The SOU speech, to me, came off as pompous, flamboyant and flippant.

The first 80% was spent sucking his own dick (and by extension, his party's), with crass remarks towards the Right. Even had time to find humor in the decline of our country and its economic instability...multiple times. He didnt "dare" to say anything and using the SOU as a means to crack one liners on inside jokes comes as flippant and pompous.

Obama most certainly enjoys his own presence more than anyone in the world does. He is very proud of himself and his office and really likes to show how great he really is at every chance. He is a rock star, knows it, and loves being it.

Deriding the Supreme Court was...uncouth. Even though I agree with the President, the SOU isnt for that, IMO.

There were 3 times in the entire speech that had me listening.

Campaign Finance Reform (disclosing exactly whom and how much)
Earmark Legislation (listing every pet project in one list)
Changing the Political Game in Washington (only because I like to dream, too)

Seeing as all three are as far from reality as one could imagine, it was nice to take a little walk down FairyTale Lane with the President, but it accomplishes nothing.

Two things stood out as his strongest/most worrying points:

Freezing Government Spending for 3 years (kind of a bombshell, but I doubt he has the balls)
Overriding the Senate with an Executive Order (another bombshell, but again, a dud)

All in all, I'd say the President hit a nice little softball toss right out of the park. Especially when 75% of the fans are for your team. Not going to get you in the Hall of Fame, but you never had the skillset to begin with.

[SouthernFried]

Obama supporters begging others to say something nice about their man?

This is getting ridiculous...lol

[101A]

Obama did more for the middle class this year than any president since Ronald Regan…

1-Tax credit for dependents was doubled this year…
2-Income tax & DMV fees for new car purchase was deductible…
3-Cash for Clunkers program…
4-New college assistance for dependents…

Across the board income tax cuts were better for the middle class - amounted to savings for every single income tax paying individual in the nation - and that savings has been realized with every pay check for 8 years now; WAY more than every one of those "cuts" you cited.

[101A]

He's articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy.

[Winehole23]

He's not peevish and brittle like his predecessor. Seems like more of a good sport, maybe rolls with the punches a little better.

[spurster]

Some good things to say?

He's not George Bush.

It's not all his fault that everyone wants to let serious problems fester.

[Yonivore]

Hmmm...

In the year he's been president, I've been impressed with how his daughters conduct themselves in the public eye. Someone has apparently taught them manners; possibly Obama.

Now, WTF was up with all that podium thumping? We should have had a drinking game involving the number of times he let his arms fall to the lectern.

[clambake]

yoni, didn't you notice that biden had a simple glass of water, and pelosi had a complete silver tea/water set?

[Yonivore]

yoni, didn't you notice that biden had a simple glass of water, and pelosi had a complete silver tea/water set?
No.

[Winehole23]

Now, WTF was up with all that podium thumping? We should have had a drinking game involving the number of times he let his arms fall to the lectern.That's not new.

[Winehole23]

got a nice tanSilvio!

http://flisted.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/silvio-berlusconi2.jpg

[EVAY]

He seemed to say that he had "heard" the anger of the country regarding the economy, and that the economy, and jobs, was the most important thing to the electorate, and the order of topics and time spent on topics in the speech seemed to reflect that. (health care didn't come in until 45 minutes into the speech, for example.) Whether or not any of that translates into anything useful, who knows?

[EVAY]

got a nice tan

Damn. At least your forum name reflects truth in advertising.

[SAGambler]

I got to say that Obama showed real moxie last night….I like the new Obama…The guy willing to take on corruption & mistakes made by everyone…Demos, Republicans, bankers, court justices, special interest groups…I hope he can govern like a guy running for one term instead of these politicians who are more concerned with empire building…:tu


Real Moxie? Obama is backpedaling on all the shit he has thrown around for the last year and a half, he is going to wreck.

Only big problem Obama has, is he can hardly just say "it's Ws' fault" any longer. Funny how it only took people a few months to catch on to what they had really elected.

It's back to "Obama opens mouth....stock market drops a couple hundred points" again.

Hang on, we are in for a long ride.

[spursncowboys]

He's clean.

[boutons_deux]

Craig Newmark (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/craig-newmark)

Founder of Craigslist
Posted: January 28, 2010 11:30 AM
What's gone right in Washington (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/craig-newmark/whats-gone-right-in-washi_b_440280.html)

Anil Dash (http://twitter.com/anildash), who's a lot smarter than me, blogs about stuff like the relative importance of the iPad versus the State of the Union address (http://dashes.com/anil/). Regarding the latter, he has a pretty impressive list regarding things getting better, like:


The last U.S. Marines are leaving Iraq.
Credit card companies can no longer charge interest on fees, and can't retroactively raise your interest rate on existing balances.
We know who visits the White House, and who they're affiliated with.
We responded, imperfectly but with heart and sincere effort, to the disaster in Haiti. Just as we wish we had after Katrina. Leadership matters most in emergencies.
Our current President readily admits when he's made mistakes, respects the validity of arguments that he disagrees with, and has members of the opposing party in his cabinet.
The Department of Homeland Security now allocates its security spending according to threats, not by spending the same amount of money on Montana as it does on New York.
My 401k is up 30% since the current President took office

I've been talking to a lot of rank and file people, here's a little I'd add:


This Administration is telling us where the money went, instead of hiding that.
They've encourage gov't workers to fix they way they work, instead of telling workers that what they do doesn't matter.
They're trying to root out corruption, rather than the opposite.
Back pay for stop-lossed veterans; serious about medical and educational benefits, which is to say they actually support the troops, rather than the opposite.

That works for me, as a libertarian pragmatist.

===============

After one year, still a lot of work to do to clean up the dubya/Repugs mess, and correct the Dem/MN screwups of the first year.

Unlike dubya's first year, no forewarned/ignored terrorist attacks on US soil, no secret intention of invading a foreign country to grab their oil.

[elbamba]

I got to say that Obama showed real moxie last night….I like the new Obama…The guy willing to take on corruption & mistakes made by everyone…Demos, Republicans, bankers, court justices, special interest groups…I hope he can govern like a guy running for one term instead of these politicians who are more concerned with empire building…:tu

Yes, he did a great job of going after everyone but himself.

[elbamba]

He's not peevish and brittle like his predecessor. Seems like more of a good sport, maybe rolls with the punches a little better.

I can agree with this. It seemed like Bush tried to ignore serious problems or at least discussing serious problems.

[Winehole23]

Yes, he did a great job of going after everyone but himself.That's hardly a fault. It's not Obama's job to attack his own record in public.

[Winehole23]

He has you and me and everybody else for that.

[DarrinS]

Unlike dubya's first year, no forewarned/ignored terrorist attacks on US soil, no secret intention of invading a foreign country to grab their oil.



:rolleyes :sleep

[elbamba]

That's hardly a fault. It's not Obama's job to attack his own record in public.

He could explain it. He could certainly acknowledge that he has not lived up to his promises of transparency and change. I do not care so much about the not accomplishing health care or cap and trade. Those are things that are outside of his control because it requires another branch of government. What he is responsible for is explaining the promises that he failed to perform. Examples such as giving generous contracts to your buddies who vote for you, opening up the health care debate, etc...

I know that few presidents will accept that they make mistakes. Certainly Bush nor Clinton ever did. But wouldn't you be really impressed with a president who steps up to the plate and says, "okay, maybe I screwed this up or promised this and can no longer deliver, but here is what I will do about it or here is why I did not deliver." Something like that. It would go along way with me. Someone who hates just about everything in Washington right now.

[Winehole23]

It would have looked funny if Obama spent much time picking the wax from his own ears, in a SOTU speech.

Is your complaint really that Obama didn't spend enough time talking about himself?

[Winehole23]

Did you expect him to, for some reason?

[Winehole23]

No biggie elbamba, I just don't get your beef with Obama on this one.

[Winehole23]

The more general dissatisfaction I completely understand.

[boutons_deux]

We're still waiting for dubya, dickhead, rummy, feith, and the whole POS neo-cons to admit they lied the US into Iraq, and then fucked up mgmt of their bogus war?

And they never apologized for not stopping 9/11 or even showing any sense of urgency, or even interest, in terrorism until 9/11 gave them their desired pretest to go into Iraq.

[Winehole23]

pretext?

[TeyshaBlue]

We're still waiting for dubya, dickhead, rummy, feith, and the whole POS neo-cons to admit they lied the US into Iraq, and then fucked up mgmt of their bogus war?

And they never apologized for not stopping 9/11 or even showing any sense of urgency, or even interest, in terrorism until 9/11 gave them their desired pretest to go into Iraq.

lol @ "we". :lmao

Be sure and fasten your helmet before you go outside.

[Marcus Bryant]

He could explain it. He could certainly acknowledge that he has not lived up to his promises of transparency and change. I do not care so much about the not accomplishing health care or cap and trade. Those are things that are outside of his control because it requires another branch of government. What he is responsible for is explaining the promises that he failed to perform. Examples such as giving generous contracts to your buddies who vote for you, opening up the health care debate, etc...

I know that few presidents will accept that they make mistakes. Certainly Bush nor Clinton ever did. But wouldn't you be really impressed with a president who steps up to the plate and says, "okay, maybe I screwed this up or promised this and can no longer deliver, but here is what I will do about it or here is why I did not deliver." Something like that. It would go along way with me. Someone who hates just about everything in Washington right now.

But the American Caesar must not show weakness. His truth is marching on.

[Marcus Bryant]

The presidency requires a myth of perfection, of absolute confidence. The great leader must stand tall.

[doobs]

What the hell is this? A pep rally?

[Marcus Bryant]

Whut in tarnation are yew boys dewing?

[coyotes_geek]

What the hell is this? A pep rally?

Pretty much. But then so was the state of the union address. And pretty much everything else in politics.

[DarrinS]

We're still waiting for dubya, dickhead, rummy, feith, and the whole POS neo-cons to admit they lied the US into Iraq, and then fucked up mgmt of their bogus war?

And they never apologized for not stopping 9/11 or even showing any sense of urgency, or even interest, in terrorism until 9/11 gave them their desired pretest to go into Iraq.



The lady doth pretest too much, methinks.

[Winehole23]

The presidency requires a myth of perfection, of absolute confidence. The great leader must stand tall.Obama's predecessor pioneered the style of brazenness that Obama for his part can now take for granted and rely on in turn.

And remain regally oblivious, wholly at remove from the influence of the reality you and me live in, and even from the effects of his own actions within it.

We just went through eight years of that. We can probably get through another three.

[Marcus Bryant]

Is it the office, or those attracted to the office?

[baseline bum]

1) Well, he hasn't gotten us into another war yet
2) ???

[TeyshaBlue]

Is it the office, or those attracted to the office?

Yes.

[I Love Me Some Me]

He's light-skinned...and he speaks without Negro dialect.

[elbamba]

Did you expect him to, for some reason?

no, but it would be a first for a politician in a very long time

[jack sommerset]

Took me all day.

Even though Obama took longer than expected, he made a great choice in the kind of dog he got!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/eb/Bo_official_portrait.jpg/399px-Bo_official_portrait.jpg

[Banzai]

http://www.rense.com/1.imagesH/passtheball_dees.jpg

[TheManFromAcme]

....He only has 35 months left on the job. After that, he can enjoy his presidential pension.

[hope4dopes]

Sooo…You guys can not say "one nice thing" about the President of the Untied States? I love his ears......they make me giggle.

[hope4dopes]

he's light-skinned...and he speaks without negro dialect. +1

[Spursfan092120]

He uses my preferred pronunciation of the word "nuclear".
vlHEJtflcmo
At least Bush knew how many states we have..lol..

[Winehole23]

he's light-skinned...and he speaks without negro dialect.









+1

Logrolling in our time.

[ElNono]

He keeps conservatards all riled up, while mostly running a center-right administration...

It's actually hilarious...

[florige]

....He only has 35 months left on the job. After that, he can enjoy his presidential pension.



Its funny how some conservatives like to say he is a one term POTUS given he is barely one year in on the job. Clinton's #'s were in the 40% range if I'm not mistaken and he cruised to re-election. And on top of that with these misfits the Republicans have who may possibly run in 12, aside from Obama waging war against North Korea, or God forbid another terror attack happens on US soil, I can't see him losing a re-election bid. But hey, whatever helps you guys sleep at night is what I always say.... lol

[Winehole23]

Obama could win in 2012.

http://www.intrade.com/jsp/intrade/common/c_cd.jsp?conDetailID=639648&z=1264743368308

[Winehole23]

http://www.intrade.com/jsp/intrade/common/c_cd.jsp?conDetailID=639645&z=1264743471503

[Winehole23]

http://www.intrade.com/jsp/intrade/common/c_cd.jsp?conDetailID=639642&z=1264743515014

[balli]

Obama could win in 2012.
I'm pretty much off the rails enough that I can honestly say I don't have a dog in the fight, but I think if Obama were to govern terribly between now and then, and win anyways? Well, let's just say I think it would serve the GOP right.

It sucks my only hope (now) for Obama's presidency is that the left can throw the Bush years back in the faces of those who supported them. Lacking any political goals other than violent anarchy, I more or less get a kick out of exposing the right's laughable amount of hypocrisy. So yeah, Go Obama! 2012! 4 more years! 4 more years!

[SnakeBoy]

Even though Obama took longer than expected, he made a great choice in the kind of dog he got!



Yeah I like Bobama.

[Stringer_Bell]

He's post racial. I forget he was black. :rolleyes

[Nbadan]

Sonya Sontamayor, the most deserving Justice in many, many years...

[Winehole23]

Sotomayor. Sometimes I spell em wrong too.

[Marcus Bryant]

Sonya Sontamayor, the most deserving Justice in many, many years...

Absolutely. Racial entitlement and politics are healthy for the country.

[coyotes_geek]

Its funny how some conservatives like to say he is a one term POTUS given he is barely one year in on the job. Clinton's #'s were in the 40% range if I'm not mistaken and he cruised to re-election. And on top of that with these misfits the Republicans have who may possibly run in 12, aside from Obama waging war against North Korea, or God forbid another terror attack happens on US soil, I can't see him losing a re-election bid. But hey, whatever helps you guys sleep at night is what I always say.... lol

I'm not ready to call Obama a 1 termer either, so I agree with you. But there are some things you need to add to your list of potential landmines for Obama. Inflation could hurt him. Having to raise taxes could hurt him. And if that unemployment rate takes it's time in coming down that could also hurt him. Also need to keep in mind that congressional reapportionment is going to be shifting some electoral votes from blue states to red states.

All that being said, we're eventually going to get out of this economic mess and if that happens by 2012 then Obama is going to be in very good shape.

[Sportcamper]

The mere fact that we have a President who is concerned about the economy is an improvement over George W & Dick Cheney…Ross Perot & Ron Paul were called alarmist & mentally unstable for predicting the economic downturn…It sounds like none of you Obama bashers watched the republican presidential debates…Ron Paul was heckled by his fellow Republicans for talking about the housing market & stock market decline…Every Republican Presidential candidate “except Ron Paul” was clueless about the coming economic downturn…

Now that we have a President who is working on the problem Republicans are complaining… I don’t get it…

[coyotes_geek]

The mere fact that we have a President who is concerned about the economy is an improvement over George W & Dick Cheney…Ross Perot & Ron Paul were called alarmist & mentally unstable for predicting the economic downturn…It sounds like none of you Obama bashers watched the republican presidential debates…Ron Paul was heckled by his fellow Republicans for talking about the housing market & stock market decline…Every Republican Presidential candidate “except Ron Paul” was clueless about the coming economic downturn…

Now that we have a President who is working on the problem Republicans are complaining… I don’t get it…

There were plenty of democrats out there who didn't want to hear about the housing bubble or the stock market either. democrats = republicans.

[Sportcamper]

democrats = republicans...:lol
OK I agree on that…But still, I am liking this Obama…

[Spursmania]

democrats = republicans...:lol
OK I agree on that…But still, I am liking this Obama…

Props to Obama for being a good dad and husband.
That's about it.

He seems to be an extreme idealogue. He is a bleeding liberal, espousing big government and wealth redistribuiton, out of control spending and high taxes. Nothing new, just surprised that he is actually a radical bleeding lib and not a central moderate at all like he seemed to be when he ran for office.

But he's fantastic for those who believe in big government, the redistribution of wealth and entitlements. Good luck enjoying Obama's repeated empty promises over and over again while our country's debt continues to sky rocket.

[ElNono]

Props to Obama for being a good dad and husband.
That's about it.

He seems to be an extreme idealogue. He is a bleeding liberal, espousing big government and wealth redistribuiton, out of control spending and high taxes. Nothing new, just surprised that he is actually a radical bleeding lib and not a central moderate at all like he seemed to be when he ran for office.


This is exactly what I'm talking about right here... That's what Obama and his rhetoric wants you to believe, but his actions are absolutely none of that. He is actually a bleeding pro-corporation, pro-authoritarian, pro-war, big-spending president, EXACTLY like the one before him, that used to wave a different flag.