[Yahoo!] All Star reserves leaked

[Double-Up]

Spoiler: All-Star reserves revealed

By Adrian Wojnarowski & Marc J. Spears

Point guards Deron Williams(notes) of Utah, Boston's Rajon Rondo(notes) and Chicago's Derrick Rose(notes) will make their All-Star Game debuts next month in Dallas, sources said Thursday.

Williams, Rondo and Rose top the list of reserves chosen by the league's coaches to participate in the Feb. 14 game at Cowboys Stadium. The names won't be made official until Thursday night, but Yahoo! Sports has obtained the list of reserves.

Besides Rondo and Rose, the East roster includes Boston's Paul Pierce(notes), Toronto's Chris Bosh(notes), Charlotte's Gerald Wallace(notes) and Atlanta's Joe Johnson(notes) and Al Horford(notes).

The West includes the New Orleans' Chris Paul(notes), the Lakers' Paul Gasol, Oklahoma City's Kevin Durant(notes), Dallas' Dirk Nowitzki(notes), Memphis' Zach Randolph(notes) and Portland's Brandon Roy(notes).

Among the notable candidates left off the team are the Los Angeles Clippers' Chris Kaman(notes), New York's David Lee(notes) and Denver's Chauncey Billups(notes).

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Spoiler-All-Star-reserves-revealed?urn=nba,216300

[TheMACHINE]

Poor Bynum. Up staged by a euro who practically played 50% of the games. haha

[Pelicans78]

Billups deserved it over Williams.

[ElNono]

Zach Randolph??? LOL

[jazzypimp]

Billups deserved it over Williams.

Shut the fuck up cocksucker!! you homo biatch!

[Double-Up]

Zach Randolph??? LOL

Same here, I was hoping a Rocket could make but since they've sucked the past few weeks I understand why.

[Double-Up]

Billups deserved it over Williams.

At least Billups has made it before, Deron is long overdue.

[Pelicans78]

Shut the fuck up cocksucker!! you homo biatch!

LOL, Typical Jazz fan masturbating to their team.

[Allanon]

Zach Randolph??? LOL

ZBo is beastin' and Memphis is just 1 loss out of the 4th seed.

Who would have thunk ZBo could have turned it around?

[XFactor]

Derrick rose made the allstar team!!!!!

[Pelicans78]

You can make a case for Randolph over Gasol since they have similar numbers yet Randolph has played in 15 more games. Also, Bynum should have been the center, probably making it over Gasol.

[ElNono]

ZBo is beastin' and Memphis is just 1 loss out of the 4th seed.

Who would have thunk ZBo could have turned it around?

Yeah, and they're 1 loss out of the 10th seed... half of the west pretty much is...

ZBo is no All Star material...

[ffadicted]

Fuck yeah if DRose makes it!! That would be pimpin'

But Horford....?

[jb4g]

Im cool with Zbo, hes earned it this year.

but Al Horford??? hes like the 3 or 4th best player on that team

[jazzypimp]

LOL, Typical Jazz fan masturbating to their team.

It's natural to hate the team that owns you!!! so I wont totally hate you!
I mean I do sympathize with you having to rebuild your house and replant your crops and all!

[RsxPiimp]

Josh Smith and David Lee deserved it over Horford. Kaman also deserves the spot over Pau Gasol. Other than that, pretty good list.

[Allanon]

Yeah, and they're 1 loss out of the 10th seed... half of the west pretty much is...

ZBo is no All Star material...

ZBo as an All Star this year can't really be denied.

Which other Big man is more deserving?

[Pelicans78]

It's natural to hate the team that owns you!!! so I wont totally hate you!
I mean I do sympathize with you having to rebuild your house and replant your crops and all!

Last time I checked, we went to Utah this season and owned you guys, LOL! At least you had little boys and girls to get off on after the game since your Jazz left you a little "disappointed".

[jazzypimp]

Last time I checked, we went to Utah this season and owned you guys, LOL! At least you had little boys and girls to get off on after the game since your Jazz left you a little "disappointed".

You mean the downtown devin brown debacle?? That was a piss poor game!! kudos!
and no, I go to new orleans to get my dick sucked... so easy down there.. I just pick'em straight outta the cottonfields!

[fevertrees]

Speaking on DOWNTOWN Devin Brown, talk about an allstar snub this year. =/

[dirk4mvp]

Anyone who thinks ZBo isn't an all star is an idiot. Fitting it's elnono.

[HarlemHeat37]

I agree with everything except Horford and Gasol..

I understand the Gasol selection though, Lakers should have 2 All-Stars, and it also kills Allanon's troll argument of Kobe not having an All-Star LOL..I also can't think of anybody else, since I believe Kaman is probably the most overrated player in the NBA..

Horford is having a very good year, so I don't mind the actual selection of him, but I don't think he should be ahead of Josh Smith..

[endrity]

Can't argue with the West list. Billups is really deserving, but so is DWill and he is looooong overdue on this. Bynum probably deserves some consideration, but it seems like Gasol got the "Lakers vote". All in all the West is simply stacked, with a lot of good teams and players. There are 3 teams out of the playoffs in the West right now that would be fighting for a 5th seed in the East.

The East though is just weak! Al Horford??? Not only is he not the second best player on that team, is he really the second best center? Lee is obviously better but playing for a shitty team, but what does Horford really have on Bargnani, Perkins, or Noah? If anything, the only All-Star talent out of the bunch is Bargnani and he still has a long way to go. Rose is obviously beasting the last month or so, but he had a poor start to the season. I don't know if Captain Jack isn't more deserving of this. And once you think that Iverson probably doesn't deserve it at all, than finding another point guard to play really is difficult. This shows the disparity in talent among the conferences IMO.

The west has a long list of deserving candidates, with the East we are scratching our head as to who would fill out the last positions.

[badfish22]

the Lakers' Paul Gasol


http://10.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kvjrz2msja1qzddo2o1_250.jpg

[HarlemHeat37]

You're underrating Horford..

He's having a better season than Noah and Bargnani..

Bargs has been nice lately, but he still impacts the game in only 1 aspect, which is scoring..he's still an average defensive player and a sub-par rebounder(although his rebounding had been better lately before that last game where he picked up 1 board)..

Noah has been the better rebounder and shot blocker, but Horford has outplayed him everywhere else..it's also a lot more logical to give the Hawks 2 All-Stars as opposed to giving the Bulls 2 of them..

Statistically, he's been better than Perkins, although I'll give Perkins credit for being the best 1 on 1 post defender in the NBA..the Celtics would have 3 All-Stars though, and they don't deserve that this season..

The only guy that deserves it more than him is Josh Smith IMO..


As for Rose and Jack, there isn't an argument there..

[TheMACHINE]

I understand the Gasol selection though, Lakers should have 2 All-Stars, and it also kills Allanon's troll argument of Kobe not having an All-Star LOL..I also can't think of anybody else, since I believe Kaman is probably the most overrated player in the NBA..



How many All-stars selections did Gasol have prior to teaming up with Kobe?

[endrity]

Still, more than anything it shows to me that the talent pool is much weaker in the East than the West. Horford wouldn't even be mentioned in the West for the All-Star team, and neither would the other guys.

[ElNono]

ZBo as an All Star this year can't really be denied.

Which other Big man is more deserving?

Nene? 58% FG shooting, and Denver looking good.
Marion? He plays more PF that Dirk and is having a good season in Dallas.
Bynum??? He underachieved early in the season, but so did ZBo...

[AnthonyM]

Zach Randolph is an all-star without question...only two that are playing better than him in the West are Duncan and Dirk...anyone who disagrees with that and saying anyone else should be in over him is grasping at straws...

David Lee should be in over Al Horford IMO, the guy is putting up ridiculous numbers this year at a good field goal percentage, and I personally think they don't get him the ball enough in NY...

[RsxPiimp]

Nene? 58% FG shooting, and Denver looking good.
Marion? He plays more PF that Dirk and is having a good season in Dallas.
Bynum??? He underachieved early in the season, but so did ZBo...

Hell no on all of those. Memphis are in the playoff picture mainly because of ZBO. Its ZBO's year and he deserves this recognition.

[urunobili]

CROFL Bynum

[Allanon]

Nene? 58% FG shooting, and Denver looking good.
Marion? He plays more PF that Dirk and is having a good season in Dallas.
Bynum??? He underachieved early in the season, but so did ZBo...

Not impressed with either Nene or Marion.

Bynum has been good but I'd have to give it to ZBo over Bynum.

[200 miles]

Since Rose is an All-Star reserve now, does this open up a spot on the Sophomores team?

Or have the rules changed and one can play in both all-star games?

[RsxPiimp]

Since Rose is an All-Star reserve now, does this open up a spot on the Sophomores team?

Or have the rules changed and one can play in both all-star games?

Demar Derozan better be in. I dont care how they do it (since Rose is a soph) but Demar needs to get in for entertainment purposes.

[Double-Up]

I agree with everything except Horford and Gasol..

I understand the Gasol selection though, Lakers should have 2 All-Stars, and it also kills Allanon's troll argument of Kobe not having an All-Star LOL..I also can't think of anybody else, since I believe Kaman is probably the most overrated player in the NBA..

Horford is having a very good year, so I don't mind the actual selection of him, but I don't think he should be ahead of Josh Smith..

Yea, that guy is on a fucking mission, of course speaking to him is like banging your head against the gravel.

[BRHornet45]

Derron Williams an all star? David Lee NOT an all star? ... wow the rosters are pretty shitty this year.

[Pero]

How many All-stars selections did Gasol have prior to teaming up with Kobe?

One. :rolleyes

[HANNIBAL SMITH]

:lol Bynum cant even get minutes when it's crunch time for the Lakers no matter how he's playing, it would of been crazy to see him make the all star game. He would of if the Lakers would give him touches all the time, not just when Gasol is out with an injury when they're left with no other alternative. Thats cool though, it'll make the kid even hungrier and work harder. He'll make it there one day.

[Brazil]

Yeah, and they're 1 loss out of the 10th seed... half of the west pretty much is...

ZBo is no All Star material...

who else ? he is having a tremendous year.

[Allanon]

I agree with everything except Horford and Gasol..

.... it also kills Allanon's troll argument of Kobe not having an All-Star LOL

Hahah, you disagree with Gasol being an All Star too so you are actually agreeing with me.

Great minds think alike. Thankyou. :lol

[redzero]

David West was more deserving of the All Star game last year than Paul is this year. Kaman was snubbed.

[Allanon]

Yea, that guy is on a fucking mission, of course speaking to him is like banging your head against the gravel.

Lol Rocketfan sucking up to Spurfan cuz you can't back up your own challenges

Come back for some more "checkmates" my friend. :lol

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144287&page=19

He's definantly not the best SG in the league and I challenge any Laker fan to prove otherwise.


After this Rocket's game I'll be happy to checkmate your ass on this topic Allanon... :lol
http://spurstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4027833&postcount=441

[jazzypimp]

Derron Williams an all star? David Lee NOT an all star? ... wow the rosters are pretty shitty this year.

Yea i bet your glad you didnt make that bet with me, huh, you fat piece of shit! :lol

[5in10]

josh smith got screwed big time.

[XFactor]

josh smith got screwed big time.

Why because Horford got in and Smith didn't? Horford got in because he was one of the better remaining centers although I think David Lee deserved it. You can't say the same for Smith because there alot of forwards with averages better than 15.1 ppg 8.5rpg

[5in10]

yeah but none of those forwards do what josh smith does for his team. Those stats dont tell it all and you know it. The hawks are playing so well because of the way he's played this year.

[Double-Up]

Derron Williams an all star? David Lee NOT an all star? ... wow the rosters are pretty shitty this year.

You should be happy, better a zebra than trigger.

[Double-Up]

Lol Rocketfan sucking up to Spurfan cuz you can't back up your own challenges

Come back for some more "checkmates" my friend. :lol

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144287&page=19

It's all good...Kobe is still less efficient/worse than Wade and most other guards...so what's your point pimp?

[duhoh]

Nene? 58% FG shooting, and Denver looking good.
Marion? He plays more PF that Dirk and is having a good season in Dallas.
Bynum??? He underachieved early in the season, but so did ZBo...

Nene and Marion would be fun to watch @ the ASW, but Z-Bo has been taking care of business.

[Allanon]

It's all good...Kobe is still less efficient/worse than Wade and most other guards...so what's your point pimp?

There you go changing the subject again, my friend. I have pasted your quote below to keep you honest :lol


He's definantly not the best SG in the league and I challenge any Laker fan to prove otherwise.


After this Rocket's game I'll be happy to checkmate your ass on this topic Allanon... :lol
http://spurstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4027833&postcount=441

[ffadicted]

Hill should replace Rose in the sophmore game imo lol

[Chieflion]

Al Horford? Screw this crap. Next, they are going to tell me Atlanta has plenty of help because Horford is an "all-star". David Lee should be in the game over him.

[Andrew Bynum]

It'll be great when Pau pulls his hammy a third time right before the game and they call me to replace him and then I blow my knee out and that ugly as shit Kaman dude that nobody gives a shit about ends up going.

[HarlemHeat37]

I don't really see why everybody thinks David Lee should get in..I guess because he plays in the best city in the world..

He's putting up big numbers, but he still plays horrible D..the Knicks don't deserve an all-star more than the Hawks deserve 2 all-stars IMO..the Hawks have surprised everybody by putting themselves on the same level as Orlando/Boston this season(I don't think it will last, but you never know)..

[Chieflion]

I don't really see why everybody thinks David Lee should get in..I guess because he plays in the best city in the world..

He's putting up big numbers, but he still plays horrible D..the Knicks don't deserve an all-star more than the Hawks deserve 2 all-stars IMO..the Hawks have surprised everybody by putting themselves on the same level as Orlando/Boston this season(I don't think it will last, but you never know)..
Assuming Horford is the wildcard, why can't they give the spot to Josh Smith then, if the Hawks deserve 2 all-stars? This makes no sense whatsoever. Except for Joe Johnson, there is no one on the Hawks team that deserves to be an all-star. On a good day, Horford can be the 2nd best player on the team, same goes for Smith, Crawford.

How does a guy averaging 13.6 points and 9.8 rebounds get to the all-star game anyway? This is just ridiculous.

[ffadicted]

This is just ridiculous.

I agree, this is even worse then Mo Williams last year

[timtonymanu]

Horford?

If they were gonna be 2 Hawks players, I would have rather seen Smith or Crawford. Lee got snubbed big time.

Kaman should have made it but im not surprised he didnt make it. I had a feeling Pau was gonna make it.

Other than that, good choices.

[timvp]

Wait!

Mo Williams and Shaq didn't make the All-Star team and Gasol did?!?!!?

[z0sa]

How many All-stars selections did Gasol have prior to teaming up with Kobe?

Playing in Memphis is nothing like playing in LA.

[AnthonyM]

David Lee got snubbed because he averages 19 pts, 11 rebs, and nearly 4 assists (which leads NBA centers) while shooting at 53%

If you're going to say that his team doesn't have enough wins or whatever...See: Derrick Rose, Chris Bosh, Gerald Wallace, Chris Paul

None of those guys teams have records that are stellar or anything like that...

As far as defense, since when has a players defense ever been a deciding factor on whether or not they make it to the All-Star Game? Besides guys that don't play great defense that made both rosters...See: Bosh, Nowitzki, Stoudemire

Lee got robbed.

[Pelicans78]

David Lee's not really a center anyway.

[AnthonyM]

David Lee's not really a center anyway.

That's a whole 'nother argument.

[HarlemHeat37]

All the guys you named have .500 records or better..all the guys from the East that you named are in the playoffs..

The Knicks are EIGHT GAMES below .500..

IIRC, the only player in this year's ASG that plays for a team under .500 is Iverson, and he was voted in by the fans..there's no way a player on a team that is 8 games under .500 deserves to be in the ASG..he would have to be playing dominant basketball or have a big name..David Lee doesn't fit that criteria..

[Pelicans78]

That's a whole 'nother argument.

But neither is Horford to be honest. So Lee should have been an All-Star as should have been Josh Smith. Both over Horford.

[mystargtr34]

Does anyone else think Josh Smith deserved the second Hawks spot more than Al Horford?

[Chieflion]

Does anyone else think Josh Smith deserved the second Hawks spot more than Al Horford?
They are about the same really. Just that Josh Smith's elite help defense gives him that extra edge.

[timtonymanu]

Does anyone else think Josh Smith deserved the second Hawks spot more than Al Horford?

I did. Smith to me was the number one snub. I would even put Crawford ahead of Horford.

[mystargtr34]

I did. Smith to me was the number one snub. I would even put Crawford ahead of Horford.

I dont know about that but i agree that i thought Smith would make it quite comfortably as a Forward rather than a wildcatd - he didnt even make it at all.

[XFactor]

If you're going to say that his team doesn't have enough wins or whatever...See: Derrick Rose, Chris Bosh, Gerald Wallace, Chris Paul


They're not stellar but they're not mediocre.... All those teams are at .500 mark Knicks are 7 games below .500

[Chieflion]

I dont know about that but i agree that i thought Smith would make it quite comfortably as a Forward rather than a wildcatd - he didnt even make it at all.
If Iverson and Garnett were not voted in by fans, this problem would not have existed. There was a lot of talks about Iverson not deserving to be in the game, everyone left Garnett out of the shit talk. Now the Celtics have 3 all-stars.

Garnett's averages through 31 games are: 15.0 points, 7.3 rebounds, 0.9 steals, 0.9 blocks.

He missed plenty of games, had some bad stats, so how in the world will he be in the game without reputation or fans?

[AnthonyM]

All the guys you named have .500 records or better..all the guys from the East that you named are in the playoffs..

The Knicks are EIGHT GAMES below .500..

IIRC, the only player in this year's ASG that plays for a team under .500 is Iverson, and he was voted in by the fans..there's no way a player on a team that is 8 games under .500 deserves to be in the ASG..he would have to be playing dominant basketball or have a big name..David Lee doesn't fit that criteria..

So a guy that averages 13.6, 9.9, and 2.2 should make it over a guy that averages 19.4, 11.4 and 3.4 because he plays on a team that has a better record even if he may not be the reason that team is playing that well, since Joe Johnson plays a bigger role on the Hawks team and Jamal Crawford is as important to that team as Horford is

And, Toronto is 24-22 and Chicago and Charlotte are even at .500, so it's not like these guys are playing on great teams...

[MI21]

I would have thought Bogut was more deserving than Horford.

[BRHornet45]

If you're going to say that his team doesn't have enough wins or whatever...See: Derrick Rose, Chris Bosh, Gerald Wallace, Chris Paul

None of those guys teams have records that are stellar or anything like that...


ummm son why didn't you include Steve Nash on that list? he is STARTING the all star team and his team isn't even in the playoffs right now. The Hornets have a better record than them, yet you sure didn't have a problem name dropping Paul. get your facts straight.

[blkroadrunners]

The WC picks are just fine. You can make legit cases for other players, but there isn't anyone that stands out as a huge snub.

The EC though....you can blame all the idiots who voted for Allen Iverson. Seriously, he should have retired.

[slick'81]

i think lee should be there no doubt i havent seen alot of horford this season but oh well

[BRHornet45]

sons everyone knows that the NBA has a long history of TERRIBLY overrating their white stars for marketing purposes (Nash, Dirk, etc.) .... but David Lee got screwed on this. He definitely deserves to be in the all star game.

[namlook]

Billups deserved it over Williams.

Willliams deserves it. He's the best player in the league to never play in an all-star game.

[namlook]

Wait!

Mo Williams and Shaq didn't make the All-Star team and Gasol did?!?!!?

Two flaws to your argument.

Shaq is nowhere near all-star caliber anymore.

Pau is in the West while Mo and Shaq are in the East. They are not in competition for an all-star spot.

[namlook]

who else ? he is having a tremendous year.

Why is everyone so in love with Zach after he has one great half a season? Intangibles should count for something. The guy has been a piece of shit his whole career.

[BRHornet45]

Willliams deserves it. He's the best player in the league to never play in an all-star game.

son there is no doubt that Williams is a great point guard, but him getting voted in was basically a sympathy vote from the league. Billups clearly deserved it over Williams, but I think the league felt entitled to let Williams finally make the team.

[AnthonyM]

Why is everyone so in love with Zach after he has one great half a season? Intangibles should count for something. The guy has been a piece of shit his whole career.

I wasn't aware that characteristics of past years factor into coaches decisions when choosing players for the all-star team.

Zach Randolph is putting up better numbers than Duncan in the pts and rebs categories and he deserves to be in it regardless of what his reputation is...

And being a piece of shit is a subjective/opinionated characteristic

[AussieFanKurt]

why the fuck wouldnt david lee make it