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Betsy
01-29-2010, 10:09 PM
I am curious and do not know a whole lot.
Since I now live in Texas I need an opion
who is the best to vote for and why,,,,for Govenor of Texas.
Let me know please.

SouthernFried
01-29-2010, 10:11 PM
Kinky Freidman would be the best way to not waste your vote.

...even if he's not running.

"The best way to control illegal immigration...is to give the Mexican Generals across the border $1,000 for every person they stop from crossing. Illegal immigration would stop overnight."

I mean, the guy is a genius.

Betsy
01-29-2010, 10:37 PM
Kinky Freidman would be the best way to not waste your vote.

...even if he's not running.

"The best way to control illegal immigration...is to give the Mexican Generals across the border $1,000 for every person they stop from crossing. Illegal immigration would stop overnight."

I mean, the guy is a genius.

I gree whith that very much and thank you for your opinion.

spursncowboys
01-29-2010, 11:27 PM
Is Ross Perot running?

Winehole23
01-30-2010, 03:04 AM
Kay Bailey Hutchinson's campaign has made no impression on me so far, and the primaries are coming up.

A vote for Rick Perry is a vote for the man, Debra Medina is the ostensible conservative (and therefore a vote for chaos), and Kay Barely Cares barely seems to care about being governor of Texas. Maybe other things are more important to her now, who knows?


To kick off the last debate of the primary season between the big three in the GOP (http://topics.dallasnews.com/topic/U.S._Republican_Party), Debra Medina (http://topics.dallasnews.com/topic/Debra_Medina) called out Rick Perry (http://topics.dallasnews.com/topic/Rick_Perry).


"In a recent interview at the Blogger's Summit, Governor Perry said that ending the property tax in Texas was a very intriguing and positive idea. However, he fell short of embracing the end of property tax or any significant change in management of the state's current fiscal crisis, maintaining that Texas is on the right path. "Well, I'm saying "bullshit" and here's why," Medina said:


"Not only have we seen loss of jobs in the private sector, the most recent State Comptroller's Fiscal Notes shows total state tax collections have fallen by over 20%, while funds from the federal government to the state government have risen nearly 34% so far this year over last year, to plug the huge hole in Governor Perry's state budget."http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2010/01/debra-medina-calls----can-i-sa.html

Winehole23
01-30-2010, 03:06 AM
farouk shami

Winehole23
01-30-2010, 03:07 AM
http://www.faroukforgovernor.com/

Winehole23
01-30-2010, 03:13 AM
http://www.billwhitefortexas.com/

Winehole23
01-30-2010, 03:13 AM
http://www.medinafortexas.com/

Winehole23
01-30-2010, 03:17 AM
http://www.rickperry.org/

Winehole23
01-30-2010, 03:20 AM
http://texans.forkay.com/

Winehole23
01-30-2010, 03:30 AM
Forkay?

Winehole23
01-30-2010, 03:31 AM
Thought he was, briefly.

George Gervin's Afro
01-30-2010, 09:33 AM
bill white. great houston mayor.

SouthernFried
01-30-2010, 11:10 AM
They're all politicians...or politician wannabe's.

So they all have some sorta ego, or self esteem problem. Personality disorder's run amok in 95% of 'em.

Having said that they all suck...and they all DO suck, they all want power over your life...err..

sigh...

Having said that...We've done better than any other state in the country under Perry. About as good as you can hope for I guess. He's gotta stop with the toll road stuff, but other than that...well, Texas has been doing pretty good under Perry.

Probably vote for him barring he doesn't do something totally stupid before the election.

All these politicians are strung tight, all of 'em are ticking bombs and capable of unheard heights of stupidity.

George Gervin's Afro
01-30-2010, 11:19 AM
They're all politicians...or politician wannabe's.

So they all have some sorta ego, or self esteem problem. Personality disorder's run amok in 95% of 'em.

Having said that they all suck...and they all DO suck, they all want power over your life...err..

sigh...

Having said that...We've done better than any other state in the country under Perry. About as good as you can hope for I guess. He's gotta stop with the toll road stuff, but other than that...well, Texas has been doing pretty good under Perry.

Probably vote for him barring he doesn't do something totally stupid before the election.

All these politicians are strung tight, all of 'em are ticking bombs and capable of unheard heights of stupidity.


I guess you have to leave out education and the unisnured problem.. oh don't forget making people wait for months when they qualify for food stamps..

SouthernFried
01-30-2010, 11:48 AM
...and I still don't have a hummer.

Winehole23
01-30-2010, 12:44 PM
(Too busy giving Rick Perry a big wet one)

Twisted_Dawg
01-30-2010, 01:20 PM
Rick Perry is as crooked and corrupt as they come. (And I am bascially a conservative).
He is tied in with all the toll road money interests and his dream of the Trans Texas Corridor. I won't go into specifics, but some business clients of mine had a program they were trying to get off the ground and it needed the governor's blessing. All they had to do was pay a lobbyist several thousands of dollars ( and I do mean several) to get an appontment with Perry. Now how much of that money do you thihk made it back to Perry's way? Next, go check out how much money was "donated" by men that Perry appointed as regents to the State colleges and universities.

I will vote for Kay Bailey before Prick Perry in the primary. Bill White is also highly regagrded as a Democrat. If it comes down to Kay Bailey vs. Bill White, I might go Bill White.

BUT ABSOLUTELY NO TO PRICK PERRY.

Marcus Bryant
01-30-2010, 01:41 PM
It is amusing that Perry and Hutchinson are attempting to portray themselves as something other than members of the Austin or DC establishment. The emergence of Goodhair the Secessionist makes for cheap political theater.

PublicOption
01-30-2010, 01:52 PM
why are perry and hutch running against each other anyway......something about this seems fishy?

Marcus Bryant
01-30-2010, 01:59 PM
Kay Bailey moves home and caps her political career as governor. Semi-retirement in a way for her. Perry launches his presidential run from the governor's mansion.

spursncowboys
01-30-2010, 02:05 PM
Rick Perry is as crooked and corrupt as they come. (And I am bascially a conservative).
He is tied in with all the toll road money interests and his dream of the Trans Texas Corridor. I won't go into specifics, but some business clients of mine had a program they were trying to get off the ground and it needed the governor's blessing. All they had to do was pay a lobbyist several thousands of dollars ( and I do mean several) to get an appontment with Perry. Now how much of that money do you thihk made it back to Perry's way? Next, go check out how much money was "donated" by men that Perry appointed as regents to the State colleges and universities.

I will vote for Kay Bailey before Prick Perry in the primary. Bill White is also highly regagrded as a Democrat. If it comes down to Kay Bailey vs. Bill White, I might go Bill White.

BUT ABSOLUTELY NO TO PRICK PERRY.+1
Making a law that all girls have to take a vaccine owned by one co. and the trans corridor. Plus he has had enough time as govenor. We don't need a career govenor. However I don't like Hutchinson.

spursncowboys
01-30-2010, 02:11 PM
Debra Medina
Eliminate property tax: We must eliminate property tax in Texas. We can fund necessary government services more efficiently and fairly using a broader based sales tax. Eliminating property tax and deriving that revenue from a sales tax will mean a $3 billion increase in net personal income in Texas and will add 125,000-175,000 new jobs. (http://www.texaspolicy.com/pdf/2009-04-taxswap-laffer-posting.pdf) [pdf]

http://www.medinafortexas.com/issues.php This is my woman.

Marcus Bryant
01-30-2010, 02:12 PM
Sounds like a shell game more than anything.

Winehole23
01-30-2010, 02:52 PM
http://www.kwmagic.com/images/GOLDTHREESHELLGAMEBAR2.jpg

Marcus Bryant
01-30-2010, 02:57 PM
So consumption is taxed rather than property, or accumulated wealth. Yet another flavor of the managed economy, the notion of experimenting with and adjusting behavior.

If any of these would be Austin Nero's really wanted to shake things up they'd actually advocate the reduction of the scale and scope of the state.

In any event, transplanted Californicators and others will likely give us a repeat of the Cali debacle in a couple decades.

spursncowboys
01-30-2010, 03:28 PM
Someone should not have to always own the state for their own private property. It is immoral. A person should not have to work their entire life and then retire and still owe money every year. What to change it to is a different story, but it needs to change.

Marcus Bryant
01-30-2010, 03:30 PM
Well, sure, but why the tax, or a tax of such magnitude that it matters? It's because the state is expected to do many things. And those things are more than just giving stuff to poor folk, as conservatives often postulate.

spursncowboys
01-30-2010, 03:36 PM
Yeah. There is no way the state of Texas should be funding a stadium in Arlington, for example.

EmptyMan
01-30-2010, 05:10 PM
Kinky is a chump. His shtick is getting old. I saw him on MSNBC a few months ago pretty much say whatever Obama wanted to do for health care was fine by him and Texas.

Medina :toast The only one who would actually secede. :lol

Marcus Bryant
01-30-2010, 05:23 PM
I guess I'll vote for the Libertarian candidate.

doobs
01-30-2010, 06:01 PM
Vote for Tim Duncan.

Nbadan
01-30-2010, 07:14 PM
Hutch has resigned to finish her career in Washington by deciding not to go Rove on Perry...she's really run a poor campaign.....everytime Perry opens his mouth Hutch should jump on it...for instance, Perry's stand on kids staying in school as a prerequisite to getting a driver's license for those under 18...Kay should have been there deriding this as more Perry big government interfering with the rights of Texans...the 8% state unemployment as a failure of Perry leadership and job creation

Winehole23
01-31-2010, 06:00 AM
Kinky is a chump. His shtick is getting old. I saw him on MSNBC a few months ago pretty much say whatever Obama wanted to do for health care was fine by him and Texas.

Medina :toast The only one who would actually secede. :lolMedina is pro-secession??

Srsly?

Winehole23
01-31-2010, 06:05 AM
I guess I'll vote for the Libertarian candidate.http://www.jeffdaiell.com/

Winehole23
01-31-2010, 06:12 AM
They're all politicians...or politician wannabe's.You'd rather have one who doesn't want to be?


So they all have some sorta ego, or self esteem problem. Personality disorder's run amok in 95% of 'em.You say that like it's a bad thing. It's not, necessarily.


Having said that they all suck...and they all DO suck, they all want power over your life...err..Hopefully, you want it too.



Having said that...We've done better than any other state in the country under Perry. About as good as you can hope for I guess. He's gotta stop with the toll road stuff, but other than that...well, Texas has been doing pretty good under Perry.
Bullshit, bullshit, on the referee!

Cant_Be_Faded
01-31-2010, 12:26 PM
Rick Perry is such a piece of garbage

I want to vote for whoever has a chance at just getting his cracker ass out of the governor's mansion. He's the fakest conservative ever. Too bad no matter who ends up winning won't even make a big fuckin difference.

I always thought Kay was a good speaker, but I haven't even heard any soundbytes of her telling us why she wants to be governor...it's all just generic perry smack.

Winehole23
01-31-2010, 04:25 PM
http://txgreens.org/drupal/node/15

Winehole23
01-31-2010, 04:27 PM
http://www.cptexas.us/index.shtml

coyotes_geek
02-01-2010, 09:44 AM
Having said that...We've done better than any other state in the country under Perry. About as good as you can hope for I guess. He's gotta stop with the toll road stuff, but other than that...well, Texas has been doing pretty good under Perry.

"Under Perry"? Sure. "Because of Perry"? No.

coyotes_geek
02-01-2010, 09:49 AM
Kay should have been there deriding this as more Perry big government interfering with the rights of Texans...the 8% state unemployment as a failure of Perry leadership and job creation

Given Kay's support of the bailouts, trying to play the "big government" card on Perry would backfire on her horribly.

She also can't use the unemployment rate because all Perry has to do is point out that the 8% rate is still 2 full points below the national average.

Kay is pretty much screwed.

coyotes_geek
02-01-2010, 10:06 AM
Eliminate property tax: We must eliminate property tax in Texas. We can fund necessary government services more efficiently and fairly using a broader based sales tax. Eliminating property tax and deriving that revenue from a sales tax will mean a $3 billion increase in net personal income in Texas and will add 125,000-175,000 new jobs. [pdf]

http://www.medinafortexas.com/issues.php

This is my woman.

Eliminating property taxes is a good election talking point, but once people see how the sales tax would need to go up to 15% to compensate for the lost property tax revenue (as quoted in the report you linked to) the idea loses a lot of it's popularity.

That being said, Medina may still end up getting my vote.

EmptyMan
02-01-2010, 12:03 PM
ehhhhh you can still get around sales tax through online shopping most of the time. :p:

Winehole23
02-01-2010, 03:13 PM
Do you shop for clothes and groceries online, EM? Just curious...

Nbadan
02-01-2010, 11:57 PM
Those poor million dollar home owners...has anyone thought of them for a sec.? Medina has...she wants poor families who pay for baby formula and diapers to help pay the taxes for these poor unfortunate million dollar home-owners...don't think of the children! Think of these poor million-dollar home owners!

Nbadan
02-02-2010, 07:51 PM
Given Kay's support of the bailouts, trying to play the "big government" card on Perry would backfire on her horribly.

She also can't use the unemployment rate because all Perry has to do is point out that the 8% rate is still 2 full points below the national average.

Kay is pretty much screwed.

Don't you know anything about politics? The truth don't matter...the message would have been out there and it's a uphill battle for Perry from that point on...Kay's playing all nice...that's not the Kay I remember....maybe a strong Dem should try for her Senate seat after this weak campaign....

...guess I'll have to Start 'Democrats for Kay! (but only in 2010)'

coyotes_geek
02-03-2010, 08:50 AM
Don't you know anything about politics? The truth don't matter...the message would have been out there and it's a uphill battle for Perry from that point on...Kay's playing all nice...that's not the Kay I remember....maybe a strong Dem should try for her Senate seat after this weak campaign....

...guess I'll have to Start 'Democrats for Kay! (but only in 2010)'

It wouldn't have mattered. Perry's a better mudslinger than Kay. Plain and simple. Kay is stuck being the candidate who was in Washington during a time when most republican primary voters don't want anything to do with Washington. Kay is also getting hurt by Medina's presence. Perry has the pro-lifer, angry white guy vote locked up so Kay's only chance to win was getting more moderates & libertarians out to vote. Unfortunately for Kay, the moderate/libertarian crowd is the one Medina appeals the most to.

coyotes_geek
02-03-2010, 10:36 AM
Feel free to put as much, or as little, weight into this as you choose. Latest rasmussen poll shows KBH losing ground.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections2/election_2010/election_2010_governor_elections/texas/election_2010_texas_republican_primary_for_governo r

Nbadan
02-03-2010, 07:54 PM
It wouldn't have mattered. Perry's a better mudslinger than Kay. Plain and simple. Kay is stuck being the candidate who was in Washington during a time when most republican primary voters don't want anything to do with Washington. Kay is also getting hurt by Medina's presence. Perry has the pro-lifer, angry white guy vote locked up so Kay's only chance to win was getting more moderates & libertarians out to vote. Unfortunately for Kay, the moderate/libertarian crowd is the one Medina appeals the most to.

Have you listened to Medina? She's to the right of Perry, who's to the right of Hutch.....Hutch needs to be more like Medina, and Medina needs Hutch's executive experience...together they make Rick Perry look centrist-right..which is where most wing-nut voters really are...

spursncowboys
02-03-2010, 08:16 PM
Those poor million dollar home owners...has anyone thought of them for a sec.? Medina has...she wants poor families who pay for baby formula and diapers to help pay the taxes for these poor unfortunate million dollar home-owners...don't think of the children! Think of these poor million-dollar home owners!
Why is it always a class war for you? Why is someone responsible for the financial outcome of others? You say millionaire to be extreme but what about the middle class who also have to pay for other's tax?
Everyone is paying the land tax. If someone pays rent, the tax is included.

Do you think it is right that someone who bought their land should have to pay for that land year end year out? If they don't then they can lose their land. How is it private property if that is the case?

Nbadan
02-03-2010, 08:17 PM
Hey looky....Ole Goodhair is calling Obama a socialist too..


fvW4LgOEJN0

Twisted_Dawg
02-03-2010, 10:28 PM
Why is it when I Google "Rick Perry A&M Cheerleader" images, there are none? Do you think Prick got them out of the www?

Winehole23
02-03-2010, 10:31 PM
Any prudent politician with a reasonable expectation of political advancement would be well advised to.

panic giraffe
02-04-2010, 12:14 PM
...guess I'll have to Start 'Democrats for Kay! (but only in 2010)'

couldn't agree with you more, although i'll probably go farouk in the primaries. Gov in texas is such a meaningless post. i would rather have the dems have a shot at that senate seat in a special election. A moderate dem, pro-business dem like Van de Putte or Hardberger could get it easily especially if a repug primary caters to the wing-nutty side of the party.

dems for kay all the way!

word
02-04-2010, 01:25 PM
I am curious and do not know a whole lot.
Since I now live in Texas I need an opion
who is the best to vote for and why,,,,for Govenor of Texas.
Let me know please.


In the general election, I'm voting for the Indian dude.

SnakeBoy
02-11-2010, 12:32 PM
This is my woman.

Well you're going to be upset over the way Glenn Beck detroyed her this morning in her interview with him.

Note to Debra: The answer to "Are you a 9/11 truther?" is "NO!".

Marcus Bryant
02-11-2010, 12:38 PM
It'll be interesting to see how her new fans reconcile this.

coyotes_geek
02-11-2010, 01:37 PM
Well you're going to be upset over the way Glenn Beck detroyed her this morning in her interview with him.

Note to Debra: The answer to "Are you a 9/11 truther?" is "NO!".

Dare I ask how she did answer that question?

panic giraffe
02-11-2010, 02:17 PM
It'll be interesting to see how her new fans reconcile this.

it'll be more interesting to see how perry plays on it.

SnakeBoy
02-11-2010, 02:20 PM
Dare I ask how she did answer that question?

She fumbled around trying to come up with an good answer without saying yes or no and ultimately settled on saying she thought there were important questions that haven't been answered. Then he asked her if she would fire anyone involved in her campaign who was a 9/11 truther and she fumbled around again and said it depends on what other skills they have. Then he said thank you very much, ended the interview and went on to totally trash her.

DarrinS
02-11-2010, 02:21 PM
Why is it when I Google "Rick Perry A&M Cheerleader" images, there are none? Do you think Prick got them out of the www?


Why is this important to you?

coyotes_geek
02-11-2010, 02:25 PM
She fumbled around trying to come up with an good answer without saying yes or no and ultimately settled on saying she thought there were important questions that haven't been answered. Then he asked her if she would fire anyone involved in her campaign who was a 9/11 truther and she fumbled around again and said it depends on what other skills they have. Then he said thank you very much, ended the interview and went on to totally trash her.

Thanks for the recap. You're 100% right, she should have said "NO" to both questions and left it at that.

coyotes_geek
02-11-2010, 02:28 PM
it'll be more interesting to see how perry plays on it.

Is Medina even on Perry's radar? Every ad I've seen/heard has been going after KBH. I don't think Perry sees Medina as a threat. Besides, with Perry trying to paint himself as a tea party champion (which he's not, but politics is about perception, not reality) and he probably doesn't want to alienate Medina's voters because he'll want them in his camp come November.

Marcus Bryant
02-11-2010, 02:47 PM
it'll be more interesting to see how perry plays on it.


http://www.governor.state.tx.us/images/about/portrait-web.jpg

"Let's secede, mofos, but don't get too crazy."

panic giraffe
02-11-2010, 02:48 PM
Is Medina even on Perry's radar? Every ad I've seen/heard has been going after KBH. I don't think Perry sees Medina as a threat. Besides, with Perry trying to paint himself as a tea party champion (which he's not, but politics is about perception, not reality) and he probably doesn't want to alienate Medina's voters because he'll want them in his camp come November.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2010/governor/tx/texas_governor_republican_primary-1082.html

one poll has her only 4 points away from Kay, but all show perry w/a monster lead. don't republicans ever learn anything?

coyotes_geek
02-11-2010, 03:01 PM
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2010/governor/tx/texas_governor_republican_primary-1082.html

one poll has her only 4 points away from Kay, but all show perry w/a monster lead. don't republicans ever learn anything?

Perry is the ultimate cockroach. No one likes him, but no one can kill him. He's got the formula for winning elections in Texas figured out. He knows the fire and brimstone conservatives are the ones who get motivated enough to turn out for the republican primaries and he knows that enough moderate republicans and independents will hold their nose and vote for him in the general election because they can't bring themselves to vote for a democrat.