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lefty
01-30-2010, 11:50 AM
The African Federation has suspended Togo from the next 2 African Cups because of "governmental interference that led to its withdrawal from the tournament"


WHAT


THE



FUCK


They are the victim and they get suspended?


No wonder Egypt won its last 2 games in controversial fashion



Way to go Africa..................

Bukefal
01-30-2010, 11:53 AM
Jeezz this is really insane. They get attacked and members have died because of it and now they get a ban?! Jesus, that's ridiculous. After all the shit what has happened to them, they also get this? Damn.

Man, Angola and their federation should be suspended because they could not provide a safe tournament. This whole tournament should've been canceled in the first place anyway.

velik_m
01-30-2010, 12:21 PM
Togo should invite the representatives of African Federation to "discuss" the issue and then arrange a little "ambush". :ihit

Stupidest decission ever. Angola is the one that should be punished. And the tournament shouldn't be held there in the first place.

sonic21
01-30-2010, 02:04 PM
the other teams should boycott the next CAN until the African Federation change the decision.

Total BS.

Bukefal
01-30-2010, 02:24 PM
I think this decision will be reversed soon, they will get a wave of critics from the whole world on this.

peter_slb
02-05-2010, 04:47 PM
Jeezz this is really insane. They get attacked and
Man, Angola and their federation should be suspended because they could not provide a safe tournament. This whole tournament should've been canceled in the first place anyway.

There was only one security problem in the whole CAN and that problem happened because Togo's staff didn't follow the rules. It's a pity what happened, but if they had followed the rules and only travelled by plane to Cabinda, none of this would happen.

Angola has severe security problems, but they cannot be blamed for this, they did an amazing job providing security to everyone involved in the CAN. Let's hope South Africa and Brazil are able to do such a nice job.

About Togo's suspension, I'm also against it, but these are FIFA laws, they don't accept any kind of interference from "outsiders". Some years ago a President of a club in Portugal, tried to stay in the first division appealing to regular courts and Portuguese Football Federation was warned that if any of their decisions were changed by a regular court order, Portugal would be out of Euro 2008 and the Portuguese teams wouldn't be able to play in that year's European Competitions.

Bukefal
02-05-2010, 06:31 PM
There was only one security problem in the whole CAN and that problem happened because Togo's staff didn't follow the rules. It's a pity what happened, but if they had followed the rules and only travelled by plane to Cabinda, none of this would happen.

Angola has severe security problems, but they cannot be blamed for this, they did an amazing job providing security to everyone involved in the CAN. Let's hope South Africa and Brazil are able to do such a nice job.

About Togo's suspension, I'm also against it, but these are FIFA laws, they don't accept any kind of interference from "outsiders". Some years ago a President of a club in Portugal, tried to stay in the first division appealing to regular courts and Portuguese Football Federation was warned that if any of their decisions were changed by a regular court order, Portugal would be out of Euro 2008 and the Portuguese teams wouldn't be able to play in that year's European Competitions.

Man, you cant blame Togo on this. Even if they didn't follow the rules and travelled by Bus instead of plane. Then still, it is a disgrace they the African federations, FIFA etc... let Angola organize this tournament.

I mean, if it was not safe to let teams travel there in any way how its normal to travel or in any way they want to travel, than why the hell is such a tournament even held in a place which is not guaranteed to be 100% safe? If they were already before the tournament warning that nations should not come by bus and that its probably not 100% safe, why did they organize such a big event there in the first place?

I believe, very bad of the organisation, FIFA and CAF to hold such a big event when you know that one of the venues is in a place where there are rebels fighting for independence and thus not so secure.

I mean, these rebels did not show up just yesterday. At such events security should be guaranteed and even the slightest irregularities should be enough to not decide to hold such an event in Angola.

peter_slb
02-06-2010, 07:19 PM
There isn't a single country in Africa that is 100% safe. South Africa has one of the highest rates of all world in violent crime and will hold a World Cup.

Each day, all of us, even if we live in "safe countries", need to take some precautions to be safe (for example: everyone locks their doors or nobody lets a 5 year old child alone in a dark place), after accepting this premise it's only a scale problem. It's obvious that the rules they had to follow in Angola and the ones that will have to be followed in South Africa (or Brazil in 2014 and 2016) might seem too much for us and wouldn't be necessary in EU, USA or any other developed country, but it's the way they can guarantee 100% security, and Angola did it.

PS: these rebels had signed a peace treaty in 2006 and there weren't indications they would come back to these kinds of attacks, they were trying to achieve independence politically.

Bukefal
02-06-2010, 07:36 PM
There isn't a single country in Africa that is 100% safe. South Africa has one of the highest rates of all world in violent crime and will hold a World Cup.

Each day, all of us, even if we live in "safe countries", need to take some precautions to be safe (for example: everyone locks their doors or nobody lets a 5 year old child alone in a dark place), after accepting this premise it's only a scale problem. It's obvious that the rules they had to follow in Angola and the ones that will have to be followed in South Africa (or Brazil in 2014 and 2016) might seem too much for us and wouldn't be necessary in EU, USA or any other developed country, but it's the way they can guarantee 100% security, and Angola did it.

PS: these rebels had signed a peace treaty in 2006 and there weren't indications they would come back to these kinds of attacks, they were trying to achieve independence politically.

Of course, no country in the world is 100% safe. But there is a difference between just common crime and war crime/terrorism/guerilla's/independence movements etc.. and threats from such.

This is not a form of ordinary crime, this is beyond that.

PS: They were trying maybe, but they didnt. And the authorities and organisation knew they have attacks in the past and knew these groups are capable of doing it and not afraid to use violence, so it's not a good excuse just to say; they are now trying to achieve independence politically, so we should not worry.