Official Trade Deadline Speculation Thread

[HarlemHeat37]

According to Sacramento's announcer, we're very close to a deal for a backup PG and either a SF or a big man, I didn't hear the last part, but he did say PG..

He said it's really close and it might affect how Pop plays the players tonight..

???..

[FvckMavs]

I heard it too.

[Allanon]

"for a backup PG and backup forward".

Interesting.

[Doe]

Heard this as well, for a backup PG and Forward.

[lortiz19]

WTH? Trades r never that quiet?

[JR3]

I hope we have some info on this soon... its killing me. I'm on league pass and heard it too.

[JR3]

WTH? Trades r never that quiet?

your right, but if its for two backups, i can see why it would be quiet.

[DPG21920]

Someone said a small forward and pg. That would suck because the Spurs need a defensive big.

[Man In Black]

I bet you it's a cap space deal.

[DPG21920]

Never mind. They said "forward and pg", not a "sf"

[loveforthegame]

Now I'm glued to the tv hoping they mention something more.

Backup pg makes sense and that makes me think Mason would be involved. Backup forward makes me think Mahinmi and/or Bonner could be on the way out. I doubt they're getting rid of McDyess or Blair.

[BlackSwordsMan]

bonner,mason,jefferson,mydyess for lebron?

[JR3]

Lets watch to see who stays on the bench tonight... I havn't seen blair yet...

[HarlemHeat37]

I can't really think of a realistic combination that I would like..

I also want to know how Sacto's announcer would know this..

[Ice009]

hmm well Lebron can play PG and Forward ;).

[JR3]

Now blair is in...

[DPG21920]

I can't really think of a realistic combination that I would like..

I also want to know how Sacto's announcer would know this..

I said as a guess Foster/Ford, but I cannot see the Spurs taking that contract on. Not to mention Foster has been hurt and TJ is a malcontent that has played terrible and been demoted.

[Johnny RIngo]

Someone said a small forward and pg. That would suck because the Spurs need a defensive big.

Considering Pop's affinity for small ball it was unlikely that we would have traded for a big anyways. The rumor makes sense in that context.

[dastrey]

I am going to guess Mason might be on his way out.

[DPG21920]

It will be interesting to see if Bonner/Fin/Mason play. Now Blair is the first big off of the bench.

[HarlemHeat37]

Jeff Foster is out for the season, so that can't be it..

[StoneBuddha]

I don't see Blair on the bench?!

[Allanon]

With Hill, Bonner and Blair in the game, good chances they aren't part of the deal.

No Mason yet though.

[MaNu4Tres]

If it is true the back up point guard has to be a 3rd string filler to get the deal to go through. I can't see the Spurs targeting a back up point guard as a priority.

[DPG21920]

Jeff Foster is out for the season, so that can't be it..

Oh, I did not know that. Never mind then.

[DPG21920]

A combo of Ian/Fin/Mason can bring in about 8M in salary in return give or take.

[DPG21920]

Camby + Telfair :hat

[blkroadrunners]

If it is true the back up point guard has to be a 3rd string filler to get the deal to go through. I can't see the Spurs targeting a back up point guard as a priority.

I concur.

[Ice009]

Oh, I did not know that. Never mind then.

I'm not keen on Foster or Ford. I had no idea either that Foster was out. Can't be that one then.

So are people thinking the PG is the filler? I'd say I agree with that. The big would have to be the main piece.

I'd love to even do a couple of trades. If we can get this trade no reason why we can't push RJ too before the trade deadline.

[JR3]

If it is true the back up point guard has to be a 3rd string filler to get the deal to go through. I can't see the Spurs targeting a back up point guard as a priority.

Yes. This makes sense. If a deal is going down right now... would they wait till after the game to announce?

[ezau]

any guess on who that forward is going to be? I hope the FO ships Jefferson's ass. He's horrible once more

[FvckMavs]

Finley is in the game now. Still no Mason.

[Allanon]

A combo of Ian/Fin/Mason

That would be my guess for the Spurs side as well.

edit: Finley in now...if Mason plays, it's probably a bad rumour :lol

[Chomag]

Manu is getting trigger happy on those 3s

[loveforthegame]

I can't really think of a realistic combination that I would like..

I also want to know how Sacto's announcer would know this..

The Kings announcers usually don't talk about stuff unless it's already done. Or it's about to go down. Maybe nothing will happen but they had to hear something for them to make that announcement.

Finley is in now and Mason was at the scorers table.

[Ice009]

How about Nocioni and Beno lol.

Maybe the Kings announcers are really onto the deal.

[DPG21920]

Damn, Finley and Bonner have played. No Mason though. Please don't dump Mason instead of Finley unless we get a big that will help.

[blkroadrunners]

I have a feeling that if a trade occurs, it's for financial reasons...

[Ice009]

Fuck Mason Jr. is in now. Great.

[Allanon]

Mason in now too.

CIA Pop or Sacto announcers got mixed up.

[DPG21920]

Yup, all the main suspects have played: Bonner/Finley/Mason. So I have no idea about this now.

[JR3]

Roger mason in the game...im not sure i believe the announcer on the "may effect who plays tonight"

[JR3]

How about Nocioni and Beno lol.

Maybe the Kings announcers are really onto the deal.

I was thinking the same thing lol

[DPG21920]

Oh damn, TP must be the one that is gone. The signs are there:

1) "Trading for a PG", why would they need a pg.

2) "Might effect who plays", no TP?

This is no coincidence.

[Chieflion]

Ramon Sessions and Ryan Gomes from the Wolves. They fit the description.

[ace3g]

well Finley is playing, so looks like he won't be traded, I wanted to keep Mason, but doesn't look like he will play tonight

[SenorSpur]

Never mind. They said "forward and pg", not a "sf"

I thought I heard the announcers indicate a "3rd pg and forward". Did anyone else here the same?

[TJastal]

Good to see Blair out there, he's been very productive lately

[HarlemHeat37]

Nocioni and Beno would be horrible IMO..

I'm thinking Sacto's announcer is wrong, but like loveofthegame said, he must have heard it somewhere or he wouldn't have said anything..that's a pretty big statement to make on the air without any proof to back it up..

[TJastal]

Way to go Finley

[HarlemHeat37]

I also agree with Manu4Tres that it looks like the PG would be a filler and not an impact player IMO..

Bassy + Camby would be nice, but I don't know who we could give back to make the 11 mil work..

[ace3g]

I don't want this to happen but could it be Chris Duhon and Larry Hughes?

[ezau]

If that's going to be Nocioni and Beno, then we're fucked

[Allanon]

A Tony Parker trade like DPG mentioned isn't totally out of the question I suppose. We assume he's not on the block but I can see several teams trying to get him...good PG and relatively affordable.

Hill has done a good job and would need a backup.

[TJastal]

Manu what a fucking pass.....

[ace3g]

well Mason is playing so it could be anyone now

[TJastal]

Bonner and Finley doing their best to lose this game but Manu and Blair spoiling their efforts....

[DPG21920]

No one has any idea, so it is best to just let it go. Most of us have gone over every logical trading partner (and a ton of illogical partners), and no one knows what the Spurs are up to.

[JR3]

I thought I heard the announcers indicate a "3rd pg and forward". Did anyone else here the same?
I'm pretty sure I heard "backup" not third.

[DPG21920]

A Tony Parker trade like DPG mentioned isn't totally out of the question I suppose. We assume he's not on the block but I can see several teams trying to get him...good PG and relatively affordable.

Hill has done a good job and would need a backup.

Hill has not done anything close to good enough to be a starting pg on a championship team. No way TP goes unless it is some crazy no brainer.

[TIMMYD!]

I wouldn't put too much thought into this trade scenario it's just a rumor.

[Chomag]

wrong thread...

[Allanon]

Hill has not done anything close to good enough to be a starting pg on a championship team. No way TP goes unless it is some crazy no brainer.

I had heard on ESPN the other night that Pop thinks George Hill can be a 20/10 player. Pop seems high on him.

A Tony Parker deal is far fetched but if the Spurs can send off TP and get back somebody like Amare or Bosh in return, that's not a bad deal.

It does seem like this is an un-founded rumor though.

[TJastal]

Pop wasting no time going with his Finley@PF lineup

[DPG21920]

Bosh would be a no brainer. No way he goes for Amare. Pop says a lot of things he does not mean. Even if Hill could be a 20/10 guy he is not there yet and he is not a good play maker. No way TP goes.

[Ice009]

I had heard on ESPN the other night that Pop thinks George Hill can be a 20/10 player. Pop seems high on him.

A Tony Parker deal is far fetched but if the Spurs can send off TP and get back somebody like Amare or Bosh in return, that's not a bad deal.

It does seem like this is an un-founded rumor though.

Did Pop really say that?????? Hill really is his favorite player then.

DeJuan Blair with 15 points in 8 minutes.

[Spursmania]

If that's going to be Nocioni and Beno, then we're fucked

I'll be happy as a drunk sailor to get Nocioni.:drunk

[Spursmania]

Bosh would be a no brainer. No way he goes for Amare. Pop says a lot of things he does not mean. Even if Hill could be a 20/10 guy he is not there yet and he is not a good play maker. No way TP goes.

Agreed. TP is not going anywhere.

[MaNu4Tres]

I don't see Nocioni and Beno, but I can see Nocioni and a filler like Sergio Rodriguez.

[Spursmania]

I don't see Nocioni and Beno, but I can see Nocioni and a filler like Sergio Rodriguez.

:hungry:

[024]

so... tyreke evans and omri casspi?

[dbestpro]

Maybe Robinson and Hughes or Jeffries.

[alchemist]

Boozer and D-Will :hungry:

[Allanon]

Did Pop really say that?????? Hill really is his favorite player then.

DeJuan Blair with 15 points in 8 minutes.

Sorry, not 20/10, "a 20 point player" forget the 10 part. One of the commentators said Pop said that.

I think Hill could be 20 points a night, he is pretty efficient and he's very fast.

[HarlemHeat37]

Hopefully we can somehow trade Pop, Bogans and RJ together..

[DPG21920]

:lol Just because Hill might be able to score 20 PPG one day does not mean TP is on the table. They have nothing to do with each other.

[024]

the more likely scenario is that hill is on his way out and the spurs need a backup to replace him.

[Allanon]

Oh I'm not saying TP is on the table. I'm saying it's not THAT far-fetched with how well Hill is playing. Hill seems to be an able replacement.

Most of the rumours all focus on Manu (out of the big 3) due to his contract. But TP being a part of the deal does make some sense as well.

If the Spurs trade up Tony for a star big man like Bosh (a Texas native), that's a pretty great deal considering they'll have Hill. And Tony's locked into his contract so the Raptors would have some longevity.

Far-fetched I agree but it does make some sense.

[Ice009]

Sorry, not 20/10, "a 20 point player" forget the 10 part. One of the commentators said Pop said that.

I think Hill could be 20 points a night, he is pretty efficient and he's very fast.

Hill definitely has the tools to do that, be a 20 point player. I agree.

Man if you guys got Hill and Blair you would be TOO sick. lol.

[Allanon]

Hill definitely has the tools to do that, be a 20 point player. I agree.

Man if you guys got Hill and Blair you would be TOO sick. lol.

Don't tease me man. You know the Lakers suck at PG...a great defender and good offense Hill would be a god send :lol

[dbestpro]

The more likely scenario is that Pop is committed to moving Hill into the starting SG spot so he will need a back up PG.

Maybe, Dorrell Wright and Carlos Arroyo?

[Kori Ellis]

Oh I'm not saying TP is on the table. I'm saying it's not THAT far-fetched with how well Hill is playing. Hill seems to be an able replacement.

Most of the rumours all focus on Manu (out of the big 3) due to his contract. But TP being a part of the deal does make some sense as well.

If the Spurs trade up Tony for a star big man like Bosh (a Texas native), that's a pretty great deal considering they'll have Hill. And Tony's locked into his contract so the Raptors would have some longevity.

Far-fetched I agree but it does make some sense.

Pop loves Hill, but the Spurs don't think he's a point guard. So I don't think they'd trade their starting point guard unless they we were getting a starting point guard back.

[Allanon]

Pop loves Hill, but the Spurs don't think he's a point guard. So I don't think they'd trade their starting point guard unless they we were getting a starting point guard back.

I personally love Hill at PG but hate him at SG. Don't quite understand Pop sometimes but he has 4 rings I suppose. :lol

[Kori Ellis]

I personally love Hill at PG but hate him at SG. :lol

You must not watch a lot of Spurs games. He isn't a very good PG at all. He has flashes, but not much there in terms of PG skills.

[doobs]

I don't think Hill's gonna be traded. But perhaps Pop has been talking him up lately to increase his perceived value around the league.

[DesignatedT]

I personally love Hill at PG but hate him at SG. Don't quite understand Pop sometimes but he has 4 rings I suppose. :lol

Hills sucks at the PG. he is a SG and shouldnt even be played at the point, just like roger.

[Ice009]

I personally love Hill at PG but hate him at SG. :lol

Who was the guy on the Lakers that wanted to draft him? I recall Phil saying some really good things about George after that last Spurs vs Lakers game. Was Phil the guy looking at him or you think someone else from the scouting department?

[Allanon]

You must not watch a lot of Spurs games. He isn't a very good PG at all. He has flashes, but not much there in terms of PG skills.

I watch almost every Spurs game.

Pop likes going small ball; and I don't like it. I prefer Hill at PG; I think he just needs more experience to run the offense better.

[Kori Ellis]

Anyway, as to the topic of who the forward is...

:hungry: Antawn Jamison :hungry:

[/pipedream]

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

Maybe it is Anthony Carter and Renaldo Balkman :lmao

:p:

[HarlemHeat37]

Jamison would officially turn us into the old Suns IMO..

[gmanrulz]

jamison and crittenton. gonna be a shooting clinic

[ElNono]

You would think Pop wouldn't play whoever is going to be traded if this is imminent, as it seems to be. Yet, we pretty much played all our expirings against Sacto tonight. I wouldn't hold my breath on this.

[Allanon]

Who was the guy on the Lakers that wanted to draft him? I recall Phil saying some really good things about George after that last Spurs vs Lakers game. Was Phil the guy looking at him or you think someone else from the scouting department?

I don't remember who it was but the Lakers were indeed trying to move up in the draft to get George Hill.

But the Spurs snagged him first.

[024]

jamison and crittenton. gonna be a shooting clinic
i see what you did there.

[dbestpro]

jamison and crittenton. gonna be a shooting clinic

Crittenton is suspended for the rest of the year and most likely will be waived if he tries to appeal.

[urunobili]

Nocioni and Sergio Rodriguez :stirpot:

[exstatic]

Anyway, as to the topic of who the forward is...

:hungry: Antawn Jamison :hungry:

[/pipedream]

I think WASH has said the ONLY big piece not available is 'Tawn. Maybe Butler is the forward? And Foye is the PG? [/pipedream]

[DPG21920]

Anyway, as to the topic of who the forward is...

:hungry: Antawn Jamison :hungry:

[/pipedream]

See, I have gone back and forth on this, and have come to the conclusion that I would like this. But almost no one agrees. He would not be my first choice, but I would like all things considered.

What is your take on this "rumor" and have you heard anything that you are willing to talk about?

[DPG21920]

I think WASH has said the ONLY big piece not available is 'Tawn. Maybe Butler is the forward? And Foye is the PG? [/pipedream]

That would be baller. I am a big Foye fan.

[ace3g]

Nocioni and Sergio Rodriguez :stirpot:


like others have said I would love this trade, I even mentioned Nocioni in a trade thread a while back because he was getting limited minutes the entire season.


Nocioni would give the Spurs 2 true SF, maybe that would keep Pop away from small ball since he could balance out the PG, SG, SF rotations

[dbestpro]

Pop loves small ball so much he is going to trade Ian and Theo for a PG and SF.

[024]

how would the sactown announcer know about a spurs trade?

[TD 21]

The more likely scenario is that Pop is committed to moving Hill into the starting SG spot so he will need a back up PG.

Maybe, Dorrell Wright and Carlos Arroyo?

If there is a trade in the offing, my guess is this is who the Spurs will acquire. My guess is Mason is going the other way. Here's why...

- Salaries match

- Wright is known to be available; could be the Spurs latest attempt at finding someone to guard combo forwards/face-up four's

- Heat coveted Mason in summer of '08

- Finley's back, Spurs have a glut at SG, seem committed to playing Hill more at SG and lack depth at PG

- Spurs would get a true SF and PG, two things they lack on their bench

- Heat would get a player to play in their top 8, as well as a shooter/scorer to take some of the burden off Wade

[edgar]

So whats the deal kori? Is this going down or is it pure speculation? :wakeup

[Kori Ellis]

See, I have gone back and forth on this, and have come to the conclusion that I would like this. But almost no one agrees. He would not be my first choice, but I would like all things considered.

What is your take on this "rumor" and have you heard anything that you are willing to talk about?
I think the Spurs like Jamison very much, but I was just making something up right now.

No, I haven't heard anything but I haven't asked around. I'll ask around in the morning and see if anyone knows anything. Maybe timvp can email some peeps tonight.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Tyrus Thomas + Pargo

Or maybe a combo off of GS?

[DPG21920]

Tyrus Thomas + Pargo

Or maybe a combo off of GS?

I would take that for sure.

[Libri]

Pop wants offense. It would be for somebody who can score.

[HarlemHeat37]

I would be very happy with Tyrus Thomas too..

[DPG21920]

For a 3rd PG, you could do worse than Pargo. At least you know he will have the gumption to take a big shot if you need it. It is nice to have a 3rd pg who can randomly go off.

I personally think TT would be a great fit. Especially if that jump shot he showed in the playoffs was not a lie.

[MaNu4Tres]

Spurs need more players that have the ability to get to the paint and convert efficiently. Especially with Manu and Tony not being nearly as effective as they have been in the past. Spurs have too many players who get the majority of their points from long distance. Which validates the live by the 3 die by the 3 mantra if you will.

[MaNu4Tres]

For a 3rd PG, you could do worse than Pargo. At least you know he will have the gumption to take a big shot if you need it. It is nice to have a 3rd pg who can randomly go off.

I personally think TT would be a great fit. Especially if that jump shot he showed in the playoffs was not a lie.

A 3rd pg should be last on the Spurs list in terms of a need via trade.

[Spursmania]

Do the Spurs really have the gumption to do another trade right now? I'm dubious.

[alchemist]

how would the sactown announcer know about a spurs trade?
it involves the Kings? :wow

[FvckMavs]

it involves the Kings? :wow

Ime and Beno
:lol

[L.I.T]

If we're talking pipe dreams that could occur: TP + The Trade Twins = Bosh + Jack

[exstatic]

Tyrus Thomas + Pargo

Or maybe a combo off of GS?


I would be very happy with Tyrus Thomas too..

It's not a coincidence that Chicago shot up the standings like a rocket when they benched Tyrus. There's a reason he's available: He's a fucking deer. He can run fast and jump, but just really has no clue how to play basketball.

[HarlemHeat37]

It's not a coincidence that Chicago shot up the standings like a rocket when they benched Tyrus. There's a reason he's available: He's a fucking deer. He can run fast and jump, but just really has no clue how to play basketball.

Oh he's definitely low IQ..I'm pretty sure he would clash with Pop too..

He gives us what we need though..he's an elite athlete that finishes strong and blocks shot..I would assume that he would make a lot of progress with Duncan and McDyess mentoring him though..

BTW, he averaged over 20 MPG for the Bulls run, so I don't know where you got that from..

[exstatic]

Ime and Beno
:lol

I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.

[TIMMYD!]

Battier?:eyebrows

[toki9]

Maybe they're trading Mahinmi so that he could get some playing time this season?

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

A 3rd pg should be last on the Spurs list in terms of a need via trade.

If the rumor is true my guess is the backup point is a throw-in to make salaries match.

[JR3]

I'm giving up on this tonight. If a trade is going down, I don't think it will be announced until tomorrow.

[duncan228]

Ime and Beno :lol

Duncan saying hello to them tonight.

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x282/duncan228/2009-2010/2-3-10pre.jpg

[safetypickle]

It's not a coincidence that Chicago shot up the standings like a rocket when they benched Tyrus. There's a reason he's available: He's a fucking deer. He can run fast and jump, but just really has no clue how to play basketball.

actually, i believe the bulls run started right around the time tyrus came back from his broken arm.

[DPG21920]

We have already determined that a pg is likely just a throw in, but that does not mean that getting something decent like Pargo could not turn out to be a good thing. Although it should be last on the list, it is still on the list imo.

[HarlemHeat37]

That picture of Duncan talking to Beno-Ime combined with Sacto's announcers making the trade comment = ???..

I'm kind of joking, but I don't want to say I'm fully joking in case it happens..

It would make sense if Pop wanted to re-acquire Beno now that he's aged a little..

[MaNu4Tres]

If the rumor is true my guess is the backup point is a throw-in to make salaries match.

I agree. I mentioned that.

[Ice009]

For a 3rd PG, you could do worse than Pargo. At least you know he will have the gumption to take a big shot if you need it. It is nice to have a 3rd pg who can randomly go off.

I personally think TT would be a great fit. Especially if that jump shot he showed in the playoffs was not a lie.

Hmm was it a Bulls scout a couple of seasons ago that said Mahinimi has All-star potential?

[TJastal]

Last thing the spurs need is another point guard, unless they are sending one out

[duncan228]

That picture of Duncan talking to Beno-Ime combined with Sacto's announcers making the trade comment = ???..

I'm kind of joking, but I don't want to say I'm fully joking in case it happens..

It would make sense if Pop wanted to re-acquire Beno now that he's aged a little..

For what it's worth, Duncan always greets former teammates.

[HarlemHeat37]

For what it's worth, Duncan always greets former teammates.

I know, I've seen him greet Beno a bunch of times, I'm just hoping for the best:lol

[DPG21920]

Last thing the spurs need is another point guard, unless they are sending one out

What are you talking about? They only have two PG's and that is putting it nicely. They usually carry 3.

[tim_duncan_fan]

Granted, I can't see the game, but the box score told me Hill played like a decent enough point guard tonight.

[TJastal]

What are you talking about? They only have two PG's and that is putting it nicely. They usually carry 3.

Hill and Parker are both starting quality, Manu and Mason can play backups if necessary... you think they need more than that?

[Vic Petro]

Mason/Bonner/Finley have played, but well below their season mpg. Mason averages 20 mins and has played 10, Finley 17 and played 9, and Bonner 19 and has played 6. With Bonner and Fin coming off injuries this could mean nothing but I don't think the fact they played a very limited number of minutes precludes their inclusion in a trade.

[Thompson]

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x282/duncan228/2009-2010/2-3-10pre.jpg

"So Ime, get to spend a lot of... quality time with Beno now, eh?"

*Ime scowls*

[z0sa]

Hill and Parker are both starting quality, Manu and Mason can play backups if necessary... you think they need more than that?

Hill might evolve into a better play maker, but other than playing the 1, those guys don't have much in common with play makers.

edit: besides Manu obviously... but like Mason, he shouldn't have to play the 1 at any time. Those guys are wings, not point guards...

[FvckMavs]

Mason didn't play in the second half? Hm.

[DPG21920]

Hill and Parker are both starting quality, Manu and Mason can play backups if necessary... you think they need more than that?

I certainly don't think it will hurt. I don't think it is a major need, but I would not mind it.

[Ditty]

hope its the end of the finley error and maybe ian mihinmi if we get a solid player

[tim_duncan_fan]

All I know is that we better not trade Hill. Dude is an all-star in the making and he allows the Spurs to keep up that mystique attained only through the act of find good players late in the draft.

[Leetonidas]

If it is true the back up point guard has to be a 3rd string filler to get the deal to go through. I can't see the Spurs targeting a back up point guard as a priority.

Or maybe the Spurs think Hill can be their starting SG...

[MaNu4Tres]

What are you talking about? They only have two PG's and that is putting it nicely. They usually carry 3.


They usually carried 3 when they didn't have a clear cut number 2 point guard that was consistent. They have that now.

The only way Spurs trade for a back up PG is if Tony is included in the trade ( which won't happen) or if the point guard is used as a filler to make the trade go through.

[CP48107]

This might sound crazy. How about Stoudemire/Dragic?

[HarlemHeat37]

I would be really surprised if we get a PG that will actually get minutes..

[DynastySpurs210]

OMG! Is it kevin Martin??

http://www.bothteamsplayedhard.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/1246-kings06.jpg

[DPG21920]

They usually carried 3 when they didn't have a clear cut number 2 point guard that was consistent. They have that now.

The only way Spurs trade for a back up PG is if Tony is included in the trade ( which won't happen) or if the point guard is used as a filler to make the trade go through.

I don't understand this logic at all. Hill is anything but a consistent back up PG. I don't think the only way they trade for a back up or 3rd string PG is if they trade TP.

I can see them making a small deal that includes a pg of sorts and even if that player does not get a lot of minutes, does not mean the move won't make sense.

[Vic Petro]

Watch it be Jared Jeffries and Nate Robinson.

[easy7]

I hope I am not being set up for a disappointment

[Ditty]

maybe speedy claxton and raja bell?

[TJastal]

I certainly don't think it will hurt. I don't think it is a major need, but I would not mind it.

Sorry, but I'd rather not give Pop another small ball option to try out and fiddle around with for 10+ games

[blkroadrunners]

Watch it be Jared Jeffries and Nate Robinson.


:bang:bang:bang

[Complainer]

kevin martin will be a spur tomorrow.

[HarlemHeat37]

I really don't want any Kings..

[DynastySpurs210]

Duncan saying hello to them tonight.

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x282/duncan228/2009-2010/2-3-10pre.jpg

By the look on Timmys face, he knows something we dont

[Ice009]

lol shit just read on another message board where someone said it's Beno. FUCK.

[timtonymanu]

By the look on Timmys face, he knows something we dont

Duncan: see you guys in Portland tomorrow!


yep you heard it here first. Udoka is the back-up PF while Udrih is the back-up PG. Pop wants an undersized player for PF so he just told the Kings' announcers to say the player was a power forward.

[easy7]

lol shit just read on another message board where someone said it's Beno. FUCK.

Like we need another bench warmer...:lmao Here is hoping that you are kidding. :toast

[ElNono]

It's probably Posey + Claxton for Mahinmi and Hill...

LOL, just kidding

[EricB]

Wouldn't be 100% shocked if Beno and Nocioni were the ones heading to SA.

Doubt it though.

Doubt the Kings announcers know much however.

[z0sa]

By the look on Timmys face, he knows something we dont

:lol that's a funny picture

[Leetonidas]

By the look on Timmys face, he knows something we dont

He knows what Beno is hiding in his man purse

[CP48107]

Duncan: see you guys in Portland tomorrow!


yep you heard it here first. Udoka is the back-up PF while Udrih is the back-up PG. Pop wants an undersized player for PF so he just told the Kings' announcers to say the player was a power forward.

:lol:lol:lol:lmao

[Ice009]

Wouldn't be 100% shocked if Beno and Nocioni were the ones heading to SA.

Doubt it though.

Doubt the Kings announcers know much however.

Well I just read somewhere else that it is Beno, it didn't sound like a joke, but it could be a joke.

Not sure about Beno I know he has gotten better, but not sure about it at all. It makes more sense too if it's a Sacramento player since it came from their announcers.

[DynastySpurs210]

Duncan: see you guys in Portland tomorrow!


yep you heard it here first. Udoka is the back-up PF while Udrih is the back-up PG. Pop wants an undersized player for PF so he just told the Kings' announcers to say the player was a power forward.

lolz thats funny

[timtonymanu]

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x282/duncan228/2009-2010/2-3-10pre.jpg

Beno: Hey Timmy! If you had a choice which of us would you take back?

Timmy laughs and walks away.

[HarlemHeat37]

Beno is actually very good this season, but I just don't want him..I don't want any PG that will play real minutes, it's not a need IMO..

I want nothing to do with Nocioni at all..

[Obstructed_View]

If there is a trade in the offing, my guess is this is who the Spurs will acquire. My guess is Mason is going the other way. Here's why...

- Salaries match

- Wright is known to be available; could be the Spurs latest attempt at finding someone to guard combo forwards/face-up four's

- Heat coveted Mason in summer of '08

- Finley's back, Spurs have a glut at SG, seem committed to playing Hill more at SG and lack depth at PG

- Spurs would get a true SF and PG, two things they lack on their bench

- Heat would get a player to play in their top 8, as well as a shooter/scorer to take some of the burden off Wade

I think the Heat are trying to shave about 3m from their payroll. Unless there's a third team involved, this isn't likely IMO, as much as I'd love to have Wright.

[ElNono]

Gerald Wallace and Raymond Felton are not playing for Charlotte tonight... Hmm... Are they injured? Coincidence?

[alchemist]

Beno: Hey Timmy! If you had a choice which of us would you take back?

Timmy laughs and walks away.
:lmao +1

[MaNu4Tres]

I don't understand this logic at all. Hill is anything but a consistent back up PG. I don't think the only way they trade for a back up or 3rd string PG is if they trade TP.

I can see them making a small deal that includes a pg of sorts and even if that player does not get a lot of minutes, does not mean the move won't make sense.

Hill is consistent and has been all year. Fans like you don't understand certain concepts of certain systems with all due respect.

What is your definition of point guard?

People want to rant and rave and compare Hill or Parker to Stockton, Kidd, Mark Jackson, Chris Paul, Nash but the fact is those players were in different systems that allowed them to ALWAYS have the ball in their hands to make plays. Fact is there has been only a handful of TRUE point guards in the history of the league. I get tired of hearing fans say " Tony isn't a true point guard."

"Hill can't create for other's that well he's not a true point guard. Spurs need a true point guard."

The Spurs point guards don't have the luxury in having opportunities to put up Kidd/ Nash/ Paul assist numbers with Tim and Manu having equal responsibility in terms of play making.

Same with the Lakers system and Derek Fisher.

Same with the Cavs system Mo Williams.

Same with the Hawks system and Mike Bibby.

Same with the Orlando Magic and Jameer Nelson.


The " point guards" on those teams have different responsibilities than your teams that had systems in which their point guard was their best play maker and had the ball in their hands most of the time.

With Tim, Manu, Tony being efficient play makers on the Spurs the past 7-8 years, Hill shouldn't be guilty of such criticism.IMO He's done a very consistent and admirable job all year whether if it was starting at the 2 or backing up Parker or filling in for Parker in the starting line up.

[exstatic]

All I know is that we better not trade Hill. Dude is an all-star in the making and he allows the Spurs to keep up that mystique attained only through the act of find good players late in the draft.

I wouldn't see George as an All Star unless he left for a big market team, but he is a guy who can play in the league for 10-12 years, and finding that deep in the draft is a gift.

[Obstructed_View]

Well I just read somewhere else that it is Beno, it didn't sound like a joke, but it could be a joke.

Not sure about Beno I know he has gotten better, but not sure about it at all. It makes more sense too if it's a Sacramento player since it came from their announcers.

Beno's way overpaid and he sucked ass when he was here. The SPurs paid Minnesota to take him. If Pop trades for him someone should just put him away now.

[FvckMavs]

Gerald Wallace and Raymond Felton are not playing for Charlotte tonight... Hmm... Are they injured? Coincidence?

Wallace is injured.

[HarlemHeat37]

Gerald Wallace and Raymond Felton are not playing for Charlotte tonight... Hmm... Are they injured? Coincidence?

Felton is playing, isn't he?..(I know you're playing btw LOL)..

[Kori Ellis]

Gerald Wallace and Raymond Felton are not playing for Charlotte tonight... Hmm... Are they injured? Coincidence?


Wallace - Hamstring. Felton is playing.

[EricB]

I said it all summer and training camp, I'm still suprised they never signed a Brevin Knight type player.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Noc' + Beno for RJeff works. :stirpot:

[Boss]

Getting a back up pg would be very nice for the spurs. 1 If it is a true pg it could help RJ out a lot. 2. Spurs may see GHill as a better 2 guard for the playoff run. 3. Spurs probably either don't want to rush Parker back so he's fully healthy down the stretch or Parker's injury might be worse than we all think.

[Kori Ellis]

Noc' + Beno for RJeff works. :stirpot:

:lol

[ElNono]

Felton is playing, isn't he?..(I know you're playing btw LOL)..

I thought I saw him in a suit, sitting right in front of Wallace... Kid you not.

[Kori Ellis]

Getting a back up pg would be very nice for the spurs. 1 If it is a true pg it could help RJ out a lot. 2. Spurs may see GHill as a better 2 guard for the playoff run. 3. Spurs probably either don't want to rush Parker back so he's fully healthy down the stretch or Parker's injury might be worse than we all think.

Parker was almost cleared for tonight's game. He'll be back the next game reportedly.

[SpurNation]

According to Sacramento's announcer, we're very close to a deal for a backup PG and either a SF or a big man, I didn't hear the last part, but he did say PG..

He said it's really close and it might affect how Pop plays the players tonight..

???..

This doesn't mean a thing just because some announcer mentioned it.

And in how it is written according to how you heard it...it doesn't specifically say it was any King player involved.

Anyway...hearing anything regarding a trade from an announcer during a game broadcast is probably more rumor than truth.

[Kori Ellis]

I thought I saw him in a suit, sitting right in front of Wallace... Kid you not.

He has 11 points right now.

[ohmwrecker]

I really don't want any Kings..

I'll take Tyreke Evans.

[DynastySpurs210]

:lol

Your EVIL :P

[ElNono]

He has 11 points right now.

LOL, yeah I see him... Nevermind..

[HarlemHeat37]

I'll take Tyreke Evans.

I'd rather have Lebron..

[HarlemHeat37]

Speaking of Felton..Stephen Jackson is just dominating the Lakers right now:(..

[Kori Ellis]

I know I'm late to the party but the Spurs wouldn't have made a trade for foster because of his back issues.

Unless the deal is involving the Kings I don't see how the Sac personality would know.

Donte Green?

I would think it would more than likely NOT be with the Kings since the Kings announcer mentioned it. If it was with the Kings, their management wouldn't want him to talk about it on air.

[mikekim]

I'd be ecstatic to get this evans kid.

[ElNono]

Speaking of Felton..Stephen Jackson is just dominating the Lakers right now:(..

Yeah, he's laughing at Artest right now... He's got like 30 points.... I love SJax, he never backs down...

[HarlemHeat37]

It PROBABLY is a rumor IMO, but the whole point of taking it seriously because the Kings announcer mentioned it because it's just so strange..why would the Kings announcer, a guy that has nothing to do with the Spurs, randomly make a comment like that?..he obviously has to have a reason to believe this..

He wouldn't just throw it out there and put his credibility on the line without hearing anything..I don't think the Spurs organization would be too happy about this if nothing is actually being discussed..

NBA announcers generally don't say this kind of information on the air without hearing something concrete..I've never heard of anything like that, especially Sacramento's announcer, a guy that is respected as a classy guy..

[MaNu4Tres]

TP has been able to play since Denver, but Pop wants to give him more rest. My money is on a Portland return as well.

FWIW...

Elliott said on Spurs Live pre-game that Parker would sit against Portland and play for sure against the Clippers on Saturday.

[SenorSpur]

Duncan saying hello to them tonight.

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x282/duncan228/2009-2010/2-3-10pre.jpg

That's funny. I had this notion as I watched the game tonight.

Nothing would surprise me at this point.

[DynastySpurs210]

These rumors are driving me Bananas! ugh,Wanna see a move already

[wildbill2u]

Nocioni and Sergio Rodriguez :stirpot:

you might have something there. The rumor came out of Sacramento didn't it?

I heard the Sacramento announcers mention that Rodriguez was getting a lot more time tonight (showing him off?) than ususal.

Spurs have always likes nocioni.

I have no clue as to what we could offer in return.

[SpursRulez4eVeR]

nazr + sjax = :lobt2:

[SpurNation]

I would think it would more than likely NOT be with the Kings since the Kings announcer mentioned it. If it was with the Kings, their management wouldn't want him to talk about it on air.

Kinda just what I said before.

[MaNu4Tres]

Speaking of Felton..Stephen Jackson is just dominating the Lakers right now:(..

And Bobcats got him for pretty much nothing.

Mason/Bonner would have been a better offer.:depressed

[androck]

Speaking of Felton..Stephen Jackson is just dominating the Lakers right now:(..

30 points on 15 shots (2:55 left) is great efficiency and for Stephen Jackson, one of the most overrated players in the NBA, it's REALLY great efficiency. This season with the Bobcats he averages 21.2 pts on 18.1 fga (that's almost AI bad).

[Ice009]

Speaking of Felton..Stephen Jackson is just dominating the Lakers right now:(..

Please DO NOT MENTION SJax.

I almost got to the point of begging for a Sjax trade in November. I don't think even you wanted him back then?

[SenorSpur]

Spurs need more players that have the ability to get to the paint and convert efficiently. Especially with Manu and Tony not being nearly as effective as they have been in the past. Spurs have too many players who get the majority of their points from long distance. Which validates the live by the 3 die by the 3 mantra if you will.

Exactly.

The Spurs have to many small 3-point gunners, as it is. I hope they're targeting an athletic player who can score near the basket and defend.

[DynastySpurs210]

nazr + sjax = :lobt2:

Hey lets trade SUBS!?

www.youtube.com/UndergroundFame
www.youtube.com/DynastySpurs

[TJastal]

Exactly.

The Spurs have to many small 3-point gunners, as it is. I hope they're targeting an athletic player who can score near the basket and defend.

Wow what you described sounds like a guy the spurs have currently signed with the team but getting no PT ...

[SenorSpur]

Wow what you described sounds like a guy the spurs have currently signed with the team but getting no PT ...

Ah yes, Grasshopper!

Methinks you're onto something.

It's frustrating to watch all these opposing teams feature players with crazy athleticism, getting into the paint, snaring rebounds, while the Spurs appear powerless to do anything about it.

[androck]

Ah yes, Grasshopper!

Methinks you're onto something.

It's frustrating to watch all these opposing teams feature players with crazy athleticism, getting into the paint, snaring rebounds, while the Spurs appear powerless to do anything about it.

DeJuan Blair gets tons of playing time. If you think a championship contender is going to play two rookies significant minutes (and Mahinmi is essentially a rookie) then you're crazy.

[MaNu4Tres]

Ah yes, Grasshopper!

Methinks you're onto something.

It's frustrating to watch all these opposing teams feature players with crazy athleticism, getting into the paint, snaring rebounds, while the Spurs appear powerless to do anything about it.

Spurs need more team speed/ quickness/ length on the perimeter to be able to close out on shooters, recover and rotate more quickly and effectively.

Adding such a player in the rotation at the 2 spot that can give the Spurs 30 minutes a night ( instead of the Mason/Bogans/Finley combo) would solve a lot of problems on the defensive end. IMO

[FkLA]

Honestly whats this crap about Hill not being a capable PG? There are numerous teams in the league that would love to have him as their starter. Its not like he cant handle the ball or like he constantly makes erratic decisions. Sure he doesnt attack the basket like Tony does, but he runs an efficient game and still manages to score with a more balanced attack of outside shooting and drives. Also its not like Parker is Nash-esque with his playmaking abilities, there isnt an astronomical drop off in that regard between Hill and Parker. As Sean said tonight, this kid is evolving before our eyes and turning into a good player with tons of room to improve....some of you Parker fans refuse to believe that anyone can replace Tony though despite Hill's play suggesting otherwise.

If the deal is right Spurs should trade Parker for a star big man.

[Libri]

Exactly.

The Spurs have to many small 3-point gunners, as it is. I hope they're targeting an athletic player who can score near the basket and defend.

I would also like someone who can make plays near the basket. It might be difficult to get someone who is real good at both scoring and defending. According to Pop's recent comments, it seems that he wants more offense, rather than defense. If that is the case, then a player who can score, rather than defend, near the basket could be the Spurs top priority. http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/fragend/confused-smiley-013.gif

[androck]

Honestly whats this crap about Hill not being a capable PG? There are numerous teams in the league that would love to have him as their starter. Its not like he cant handle the ball or like he constantly makes erratic decisions. Sure he doesnt attack the basket like Tony does, but he runs an efficient game and still manages to score with a more balanced attack of outside shooting and drives. Also its not like Parker is Nash-esque with his playmaking abilities, there isnt an astronomical drop off in that regard between Hill and Parker. As Sean said tonight, this kid is evolving before our eyes and turning into a good player with tons of room to improve....some of you Parker fans refuse to believe that anyone can replace Tony though despite Hill's play suggesting otherwise.

If the deal is right Spurs should trade Parker for a star big man.

I know we all look at our Spurs with stars in our eyes but George Hill is not good enough to be a full-time starter at PG for "numerous teams". He's continuing to improve but he's not an efficient scorer and he doesn't really make up for that in other ways like great passing or rebounding. Parker is a little bit of a one-trick pony but his trick, scoring super-efficiently, is a damn good one.

[SenorSpur]

DeJuan Blair gets tons of playing time. If you think a championship contender is going to play two rookies significant minutes (and Mahinmi is essentially a rookie) then you're crazy.

What the hell are you drinking? In fact, what the hell are you watching? This team, as currently constructed, isn't equipped to contend for a championship.

And if you want to see the Spurs get overwhelmed, yet again, by young, quick, active, athletic players, just watch the next game in Portland.

The question any coach or GM of a Western Conference playoff contender has to ask is "can this team compete with the Fakers?" In the case of the Spurs, the answer is NO. Therefore, they can either stand pat and drift down in the standings or try and upgrade the talent via another trade.

[timvp]

This trade rumor plus Beno suddenly not playing had me scared. Thankfully, he was actually injured (bruised heel and plantar fasciitis) and not being sat out due to an impending trade. Trading for Beno and his ~$22 million over three years remaining on his contract would have ended in disaster.

I haven't heard anything to go along with this rumor ... but it's definitely one that shouldn't be ignored. Why would a Kings announcer randomly say something so specific about the opposing team? Either he made a mistake or there is fire beneath the smoke.

If I had to guess the player involved, I'd guess RMJ. Pop was disgusted with his missed shots against Denver and again was mad this game when Mason kept missing wide open players and being careless. Perhaps the Spurs are ready to pull the trigger on something like Mason and Finley for Raja Bell and CJ Watson . . . . . .

[Redshadows]

kobe and odom

just kidding

[Bruno]

So all the players usually in the rotation played, Hairston also played with the Toros, no other sources than the Sac announcer talked about it...

Maybe there have been some misunderstood or the deal has failed.

[completely deck]

I found the forward:

http://l.yimg.com/a/p/sp/tools/med/2010/02/ipt/1265252170.jpg?&sig=g9J8cpt5SztJfIosuiJ3TA--

[SenorSpur]

This trade rumor plus Beno suddenly not playing had me scared. Thankfully, he was actually injured (bruised heel and plantar fasciitis) and not being sat out due to an impending trade. Trading for Beno and his ~$22 million over three years remaining on his contract would have ended in disaster.

I haven't heard anything to go along with this rumor ... but it's definitely one that shouldn't be ignored. Why would a Kings announcer randomly say something so specific about the opposing team? Either he made a mistake or there is fire beneath the smoke.

If I had to guess the player involved, I'd guess RMJ. Pop was disgusted with his missed shots against Denver and again was mad this game when Mason kept missing wide open players and being careless. Perhaps the Spurs are ready to pull the trigger on something like Mason and Finley for Raja Bell and CJ Watson . . . . . .

Perhaps Mason sealed his exit with his careless ballhandling, a la Beno, during the late stages. Atter Evans got those 2 steals, Pop immediately called timeout and Mason was pulled from the game for the remainder.

[Stringer_Bell]

we're very close to a deal for a backup PG and either a SF or a big man

So our choices are, a trade for money reasons or a trade for winning games? Yup, that about narrows it down. If a trade were to ever happen, it's coming sooner rather than later, but I just think those trade options are part of inevitable speculation, cuz who would ever give Sacremento the scoop if we didn't hear of it first?

I'd like SJax to come back and slap some sense into this team, make them remember who they really are! :p:

[SenorSpur]

I found the forward:

http://l.yimg.com/a/p/sp/tools/med/2010/02/ipt/1265252170.jpg?&sig=g9J8cpt5SztJfIosuiJ3TA--

Not happening. Thank God

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/64457/20100204/amare_leaning_towards_not_opting_out/

[MaNu4Tres]

This trade rumor plus Beno suddenly not playing had me scared. Thankfully, he was actually injured (bruised heel and plantar fasciitis) and not being sat out due to an impending trade. Trading for Beno and his ~$22 million over three years remaining on his contract would have ended in disaster.

I haven't heard anything to go along with this rumor ... but it's definitely one that shouldn't be ignored. Why would a Kings announcer randomly say something so specific about the opposing team? Either he made a mistake or there is fire beneath the smoke.

If I had to guess the player involved, I'd guess RMJ. Pop was disgusted with his missed shots against Denver and again was mad this game when Mason kept missing wide open players and being careless. Perhaps the Spurs are ready to pull the trigger on something like Mason and Finley for Raja Bell and CJ Watson . . . . . .

Do you know Raja Bell's health status?

If he is healthy and ready to go, I think his addition would help more than people think. That is if he's 100 percent and in game shape.

[SenorSpur]

Do you know Raja Bell's health status?

If he is healthy and ready to go, I think his addition would help more than people think. That is if he's 100 percent and in game shape.

I hope to God it's not Bell.

[MaNu4Tres]

I hope to God it's not Bell.

On the defensive side, I like it. He'd be our best perimeter defender ( which is nothing to brag about).

On the offensive side, I would much rather attain a player that is able to get to the middle of any defense and create easy opportunities for himself and others.

Beggars can't be choosers.

This team needs a lot of help.

[completely deck]

Not happening. Thank God

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/64457/20100204/amare_leaning_towards_not_opting_out/



http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Ap_MfcDNxJ.swlWCITNXO5O8vLYF?slug=mc-stoudemiresuns020310&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Amar'e Stoudemire thinks there's a "50-50" chance he will be playing for a new team after the deadline.

50% is still awfully high.

[timvp]

Do you know Raja Bell's health status?

If he is healthy and ready to go, I think his addition would help more than people think. That is if he's 100 percent and in game shape.

Last I looked, the best I could tell is he'd be ready to play again in March. Since that is another month away, it doesn't make much sense to trade for him now. The Spurs would likely wait until the trade deadline ... unless the Warriors are pushing for a completion of the deal.

As for Bell, I wouldn't love the deal but he'd be an improvement over Bogans. Plus, anyone willing to knock Kobe on his azz is a friend of mine :smokin

[FkLA]

I know we all look at our Spurs with stars in our eyes but George Hill is not good enough to be a full-time starter at PG for "numerous teams". He's continuing to improve but he's not an efficient scorer and he doesn't really make up for that in other ways like great passing or rebounding. Parker is a little bit of a one-trick pony but his trick, scoring super-efficiently, is a damn good one.

Ok now obviously Im not refering to teams like Utah, Chicago, or Phoenix...but Im pretty sure several teams like the Lakers, Heat, Knicks, Pacers, Sixers, etc would be upgrading with Hill. What about Hill's play makes some of you guys suggest that he isnt capable of being a starter...the kid is out there playing great agressive basketball and efficiently managing the game. He takes care of the basketball better than Parker and puts up solid numbers albeit in a different manner.


If I had to guess the player involved, I'd guess RMJ. Pop was disgusted with his missed shots against Denver and again was mad this game when Mason kept missing wide open players and being careless. Perhaps the Spurs are ready to pull the trigger on something like Mason and Finley for Raja Bell and CJ Watson . . . . . .

I think Raja Bell had season ending surgery when he was trade to GS, he'd been playing through the injury in Charlotte because theyre making a playoff push but once he was traded to GS he packed it in and opted for surgery.

[Ditty]

raja bell hasnt hasn't had season ending surgery right now he is rumored to be traded to the celtics though

[Kori Ellis]

Raja Bell had season ending surgery when he was trade to GS, he'd been playing through the injury in Charlotte because theyre making a playoff push but once he was traded to GS he packed it in and opted for surgery.

He had the cast removed about 3 weeks ago and supposedly will be ready in a month or so.

[NZ Spurs]

On the offensive side, I would much rather attain a player that is able to get to the middle of any defense and create easy opportunities for himself and others.

So you want to trade for Kobe Bryant?

[hsxvvd]

Stoudamire and Dragic?

[DJB]

It's clear, GH3 is the new sheriff in town. I hope Tony Parker is a part of these trade rumors.

[Bukefal]

It's clear, GH3 is the new sheriff in town. I hope Tony Parker is a part of these trade rumors.

:rollin :pimpslap

[timvp]

I think Raja Bell had season ending surgery when he was trade to GS, he'd been playing through the injury in Charlotte because theyre making a playoff push but once he was traded to GS he packed it in and opted for surgery.

Incorrect. Just looked it up:


Raja Bell had the cast removed from his surgically-repaired wrist in mid-January, and the Warriors are still hopeful that he can contribute at some point this season.

"I think he will play again," GM Larry Riley said. "Now, I don’t know how soon, but I think he will play some."

If he got the cast removed a few weeks ago, perhaps he's about ready to play now?

Hmmm ... if the Warriors have a standing offer that revolved around RMJ for Bell (Ludden wrote that the Spurs turned down that deal earlier in the season) , the recent events align. Pop first threw Mason under the bus for missing shots -- something I can't remember Pop ever doing in his coaching history. Now this rumor pops up the next game? Add in Pop being a huge Raja Bell fan and we might be cooking.







Or I could be reading too much into it. We'll see :drunk

[sexinthatsx]

I know we all look at our Spurs with stars in our eyes but George Hill is not good enough to be a full-time starter at PG for "numerous teams". He's continuing to improve but he's not an efficient scorer and he doesn't really make up for that in other ways like great passing or rebounding. Parker is a little bit of a one-trick pony but his trick, scoring super-efficiently, is a damn good one.

Wrong... if George Hill gets the playing time, he will be almost exactly like Devin Harris. Too bad Dallas let go of something so good... whatever...

On a side note, i'm actually for the Spurs trading expiring contracts for Amare. We need more low-post presence.

[Rogue]

This trade rumor plus Beno suddenly not playing had me scared. Thankfully, he was actually injured (bruised heel and plantar fasciitis) and not being sat out due to an impending trade. Trading for Beno and his ~$22 million over three years remaining on his contract would have ended in disaster.

I haven't heard anything to go along with this rumor ... but it's definitely one that shouldn't be ignored. Why would a Kings announcer randomly say something so specific about the opposing team? Either he made a mistake or there is fire beneath the smoke.

If I had to guess the player involved, I'd guess RMJ. Pop was disgusted with his missed shots against Denver and again was mad this game when Mason kept missing wide open players and being careless. Perhaps the Spurs are ready to pull the trigger on something like Mason and Finley for Raja Bell and CJ Watson . . . . . .
the Hedo injury seems far more questionable IMHO. orbital bone isn't such a injury occurring to a basketball player that often and even if his bone was indeed hurt, it didn't affect him playing the game either. As the rumors diffuses around the league about Bosh leaving Toronto, it's reasonable speculation that Hedo is also on a move to another team preferably the teams he may help a lot, like the Spurs.

[SenorSpur]

Wrong... if George Hill gets the playing time, he will be almost exactly like Devin Harris. Too bad Dallas let go of something so good... whatever...

On a side note, i'm actually for the Spurs trading expiring contracts for Amare. We need more low-post presence.

...but not one with such a low rebounding average and low BBIQ, to boot. Pass.

[FkLA]

Incorrect. Just looked it up:



If he got the cast removed a few weeks ago, perhaps he's about ready to play now?

Hmmm ... if the Warriors have a standing offer that revolved around RMJ for Bell (Ludden wrote that the Spurs turned down that deal earlier in the season) , the recent events align. Pop first threw Mason under the bus for missing shots -- something I can't remember Pop ever doing in his coaching history. Now this rumor pops up the next game? Add in Pop being a huge Raja Bell fan and we might be cooking.







Or I could be reading too much into it. We'll see :drunk

Guess it wasnt season ending, Id honestly be all for this deal...Bell has declined some but he's still solid. Mason seems to be fluctuate between hot and cold too much for us to consistantly rely on him.

[HarlemHeat37]

Raja Bell would be disappointing, but it would be a Spurs-like move..

[timvp]

Bell would be a decent addition .... as long as Pop doesn't start him. Hill needs to remain in the starting lineup. Bell eating minutes Bogans, Mason and Finley would otherwise get would likely be an upgrade.

But you put Bell in the starting lineup and Pop would soon be surprised how far Bell's defense has fallen. In the 2008 playoffs, Ginobili destroyed Bell ... even though Ginobili was playing on one leg. At this point in his career, Bell's mobility is a big question mark. But like I said, he's not afraid to rough up players like Kobe, so he might have the guile to make up for his decline in athleticism and quickness.

[SenorSpur]

Is Bell even eligible to be traded at this point? I mean, didn't he just arrive in GS a couple of months ago?

BTW, if the Spurs could add some sweetner and somehow pry Anthony Randolph off their hands...well....

[timvp]

raja bell hasnt hasn't had season ending surgery right now he is rumored to be traded to the celtics though

Yeah, looks like Ainge may want him. That could be another reason why the Spurs would have to make the move now.

[SenorSpur]

Bell would be a decent addition .... as long as Pop doesn't start him. Hill needs to remain in the starting lineup. Bell eating minutes Bogans, Mason and Finley would otherwise get would likely be an upgrade.

That's too many players of the same ilk, at the same position. Wouldn't it be more likely they part with either Mason or Finley?

[timvp]

That's too many players of the same ilk, at the same position. Wouldn't it be more likely they part with either Mason or Finley?

Yeah, I'm saying Mason is traded (maybe along with Finley) and Bell's role would be to play the minutes that are currently spread between Mason, Finley and Bogans.

[SenorSpur]

Yeah, I'm saying Mason is traded (maybe along with Finley) and Bell's role would be to play the minutes that are currently spread between Mason, Finley and Bogans.

:tu

That would make more sense.

However that would mean Pop would be forced to break up with Finley? And right before Valentines Day too? If only, in my lifetime.

[outmap]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ygpzyjp

[Blackjack]

I was just checking to see if the rumor might have come from Amick, but I couldn't find anything. Where exactly, or more appropriately, whom exactly was reporting this rumor?

[MaNu4Tres]

I was just checking to see if the rumor might have come from Amick, but I couldn't find anything. Where exactly, or more appropriately, whom exactly was reporting this rumor?

The kings broadcasters right before tip off. They said Spurs are close to completing a deal that would bring in a forward and a back up point guard. And then said it might effect their rotation tonight.

Can't remember their names.

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http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yfvkxsa

[jbspurs]

This trade rumor plus Beno suddenly not playing had me scared. Thankfully, he was actually injured (bruised heel and plantar fasciitis) and not being sat out due to an impending trade. Trading for Beno and his ~$22 million over three years remaining on his contract would have ended in disaster.

I haven't heard anything to go along with this rumor ... but it's definitely one that shouldn't be ignored. Why would a Kings announcer randomly say something so specific about the opposing team? Either he made a mistake or there is fire beneath the smoke.

If I had to guess the player involved, I'd guess RMJ. Pop was disgusted with his missed shots against Denver and again was mad this game when Mason kept missing wide open players and being careless. Perhaps the Spurs are ready to pull the trigger on something like Mason and Finley for Raja Bell and CJ Watson . . . . . .

Maybe CJ Watson and Turiaf?