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TheGreatest23
02-05-2010, 08:04 PM
Knowing how good both of these players would become, if you were the GM of a team and for your franchise player would you rather have a 22 year old Kobe or a 22 year old future best player ever me?

Bow down to the King, bitches.

Donkeybong
02-05-2010, 08:05 PM
martin luther king jr.

23LeBronJames23
02-05-2010, 08:10 PM
LeBron James

namlook
02-05-2010, 08:11 PM
Lebron isn't the King until he wins rings.

TheGreatest23
02-05-2010, 08:13 PM
Lebron isn't the King until he wins rings.

Homeskillet, I'm already better than Kobe and Jordan. Give me Jordans and Kobe's teammates and i'd have 3 by now.

Bow down to The King, bitches.

Allanon
02-05-2010, 08:18 PM
There is a Kobe All the Time thread pinned at the top.
http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144287&page=22

Please use that thread for random Kobe musings so that we don't have 10 Kobe threads every day.

Thankyou.

Banzai
02-05-2010, 08:18 PM
King Stat.

JoeTait75
02-05-2010, 08:18 PM
Fuck 'em both, I'd take Ricky Davis.

Delonte West
02-05-2010, 08:20 PM
This is Easy LeBron for sure.

TheGreatest23
02-05-2010, 08:22 PM
There is a Kobe All the Time thread pinned at the top.
http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144287&page=22

Please use that thread for random Kobe musings so that we don't have 10 Kobe threads every day.

Thankyou.

This thread is about me. Kobe is just a sidekick in this thread.

Bow down to The King, bitches.

Kevin Durant 35
02-05-2010, 08:22 PM
LeBron James.

He is more of a team player.

TheGreatest23
02-05-2010, 08:37 PM
LeBron James.

He is more of a team player.

Damn right...you gots to learn more from me kevin. Btw...get some more muscle man...you're like a twig.

Bow down to The King, bitches.

Bukefal
02-05-2010, 09:23 PM
Lebron!

Dro210
02-05-2010, 10:11 PM
People seriously voted for Kobe?

lolllllllllll

You Laker trolls are so funny

ezau
02-05-2010, 10:17 PM
You can pick anyone of them and you'll get almost the same results. Fact is, Lebron and Kobe have almost identitical stats when they were 22 years old

Lebron's stats when he was 22:

27.3 ppg, 6.7 rpg, 6 apg, 1.6 spg, and 47. 6 field goal percentage in 40 minutes

Kobe's stats when he was 22:
25.2 ppg, 5.5 rpg, 5.5 apg, 1.5 spg, and 46.9 field goal percentage in 38 minutes

Being fair to Kobe, he put up these numbers in a stacked Lakers team that were winning championships. Lebron meanwhile is the only player worth mentioning in his team back in 2006

JoeTait75
02-05-2010, 10:18 PM
- LeBron would play anywhere, not just a pre-selected "big market/good team" location.

- LeBron would average more than 7.6 points per game as a rookie.

- LeBron would find a way to co-exist with Shaq.

- LeBron has proven he can make a historically shitty franchise relevant.

- In an alternate history where the Lake Show drafts an 18-year old LeBron in 1996, they win about a half-dozen LOBs in a row in the 2000's.

- In an alternate history where the Cavaliers draft an 18-year old Kobe in 2003, Kobe refuses to play in Cleveland and forces a trade. :rolleyes

It is no contest. Wave them rings in our grille; it don't change a thing.

namlook
02-05-2010, 10:34 PM
It's about rings, stats are secondary.

JoeTait75
02-05-2010, 10:37 PM
It's about rings, stats are secondary.

http://www.janisheck.com/files/u1/pollardringfinger1.jpg

HarlemHeat37
02-05-2010, 10:38 PM
You can pick anyone of them and you'll get almost the same results. Fact is, Lebron and Kobe have almost identitical stats when they were 22 years old

Lebron's stats when he was 22:

27.3 ppg, 6.7 rpg, 6 apg, 1.6 spg, and 47. 6 field goal percentage in 40 minutes

Kobe's stats when he was 22:
25.2 ppg, 5.5 rpg, 5.5 apg, 1.5 spg, and 46.9 field goal percentage in 38 minutes

Being fair to Kobe, he put up these numbers in a stacked Lakers team that were winning championships. Lebron meanwhile is the only player worth mentioning in his team back in 2006

Actually, Kobe had a higher usage % in 2000-2001(22 years old) than Lebron in 2006-2007(22)..so he had slightly more of his teams possessions ran through him..

Chieflion
02-05-2010, 10:40 PM
It's about rings, stats are secondary.
This is starting a team from scratch, reading is fundamental, rings are thrown out of the window.

ezau
02-05-2010, 11:48 PM
Actually, Kobe had a higher usage % in 2000-2001(22 years old) than Lebron in 2006-2007(22)..so he had slightly more of his teams possessions ran through him..

Disagree. Everything in Cleveland runs through Lebron. Kobe back then had Shaq and a couple of solid players that he can depend on. Possession-wise, Lebron handles the ball 100 percent of the time

MiamiHeat
02-06-2010, 10:06 AM
Disagree. Everything in Cleveland runs through Lebron. Kobe back then had Shaq and a couple of solid players that he can depend on. Possession-wise, Lebron handles the ball 100 percent of the time

That's in LeBron's favor.

Shaq's presence required double and somtimes triple teams in 2000-2003

This creates open space to work with for the perimeter guys.

LeBron, as you said, was the only guy worth mentioning on the crappy CAvaliers

which makes LeBron's accomplishments that much harder and meaningful, since opponent's defenses are solely focused on him.

Muser
02-06-2010, 10:23 AM
LeBron, the league has never seen a player with his Size/Speed/Strength.

Double-Up
02-06-2010, 10:50 AM
There is a Kobe All the Time thread pinned at the top.
http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144287&page=22

Please use that thread for random Kobe musings so that we don't have 10 Kobe threads every day.

Thankyou.

Will you ever quit repeating yourself? :shootme

RsxPiimp
02-06-2010, 01:10 PM
LeBron, the league has never seen a player with his Size/Speed/Strength.
Agree. Hard to skip a specimen like that.

JustBlaze
02-06-2010, 01:46 PM
Lol 34 to 10.

PURO SAN ANTO 210!
02-06-2010, 02:37 PM
Manu ginobili!!!!!!!