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SouthernFried
02-06-2010, 12:00 AM
http://www.gallup.com/poll/125645/Socialism-Viewed-Positively-Americans.aspx

sabar
02-06-2010, 12:23 AM
Guessing 80% of americans can't define all those terms accurately.

Poll isn't surprising though. The ideological differences between the parties is pretty well known.

boutons_deux
02-06-2010, 01:01 AM
Conservative Movement has repeated the lies loud enough, long enough that rabble, sheeple, dumbfuck, dumbed-down Americans believe the lies are true. Confusion and ignorance reign, as intended.

ChumpDumper
02-06-2010, 03:59 AM
Thank the one true Christian American God that the Republicans and conservatives ended all that big government and socialism when they controlled the entire federal government.

Winehole23
02-06-2010, 08:26 AM
No surprise it ranked lowest among the eight or so choices. Ho Hum.

admiralsnackbar
02-06-2010, 08:33 AM
http://www.gallup.com/poll/125645/Socialism-Viewed-Positively-Americans.aspx

And yet 95% of them favor small businesses. Do you think the poll questions were bad, or that socialism doesn't mean anything definite anymore?

boutons_deux
02-06-2010, 09:08 AM
Here's some polling of Repugs, aka the village idiots.

The 2010 Comprehensive Daily Kos/Research 2000 Poll of Self-Identified Republicans

by kos (http://kos.dailykos.com/)

Tue Feb 02, 2010 at 08:58:03 AM PST

As I've mentioned before, I'm putting the finishing touches on my new book, American Taliban, which catalogues the ways in which modern-day conservatives share the same agenda as radical Jihadists in the Islamic world. But I found myself making certain claims about Republicans that I didn't know if they could be backed up. So I thought, "why don't we ask them directly?"

And so, this massive poll, by non-partisan independent pollster Research 2000 of over 2,000 self-identified Republicans, was born.

The results are nothing short of startling.

It's a long poll, so the results are summarized below the fold.

For a direct link to the poll's crosstabs, click here (http://www.dailykos.com/statepoll/2010/1/31/US/437).

Ultimately, these results explain why it is impossible for elected Republicans to work with Democrats to improve our country. Their base are conspiracy mongers who don't believe Obama was born in the United States, that he is the second coming of Lenin, and that he is racist against white people. They already want to impeach him despite the glaringly obvious lack of high crimes or misdemeanors. If any Republican strays and decides to do the right thing and try to work in a bipartisan fashion, they suffer primaries and attacks. Even the Maine twins have quit cooperating out of fear of their homegrown teabaggers.

Given what their base demands, and this poll illustrates them perfectly, it's no wonder the GOP is the party of no.


Research 2000 (http://www.dailykos.com/statepoll/2010/1/31/US/437) for Daily Kos. 1/20-31. Self-identified Republicans. MoE 2%

OBAMA and AMERICA
Should Barack Obama be impeached, or not?
Yes 39
No 32
Not Sure 29
For what? Who the heck knows. Who needs high crimes or misdemeanors when...
Do you think Barack Obama is a socialist?
Yes 63
No 21
Not Sure 16
That's the power of Fox News and Rush Limbaugh, after one year of relentlessly claiming Obama is the second coming of Lenin ... and Hitler!
Do you believe Barack Obama was born in the United States, or not?
Yes 42
No 36
Not Sure 22
We still have over a half of Republicans who don't think Obama was born in the US or think it's a matter open to debate.
Do you believe Barack Obama wants the terrorists to win?
Yes 24
No 43
Not Sure 33
Not just a quarter of Republicans believe this ludicrous premise, but another third think it's a matter open to debate. How do you negotiate with a party whose rank and file are that divorced from reality? And speaking of divorced from reality...
Do you believe ACORN stole the 2008 election?
Yes 21
No 24
Not Sure 55
One in five Republicans think ACORN is so powerful as to magically make 10 million votes appear. Another 55 are open to the theory. In other words, just 24 percent of Republicans have an even passing relationship with reality.
Do you believe Sarah Palin is more qualified to be President than Barack Obama?
Yes 53
No 14
Not Sure 33
Sigh...
Do you believe Barack Obama is a racist who hates White people?
Yes 31
No 36
Not Sure 33
I bet more people think Obama is racist, but were too afraid to tell a live operator the truth.
Do you believe your state should secede from the United States?
Yes 23
No 58
Not Sure 19
42 percent of Republicans aren't really patriotic. They pretend to love America only when they approve of the president. These traitors don't believe in democracy, in our nation's founding ideals, or in our flag. To them, those colors run. They are cowards.

Note, secession sentiment is MUCH stronger in the South than elsewhere -- 33 percent want out, compared to just 52 percent who want to stay. In the Northeast, "just" 10 percent want out, in the Midwest, its 18 percent, and in the West, it's 16 percent. Can we cram them all into the Texas Panhandle, create the state of Dumbfuckistan, and build a wall around them to keep them from coming into America illegally? :lol

ISSUES
Should Congress make it easier for workers to form and join labor unions?
Yes 7
No 68
Not Sure 25

Would you favor or oppose giving illegal immigrants now living in the United States the right to live here legally if they pay a fine and learn English?
Favor 26
Oppose 59
Not Sure 15

Do you support the death penalty?
Yes 91
No 4
Not Sure 5
GAYS
Should openly gay men and women be allowed to serve in the military?
Yes 26
No 55
Not Sure 19

Should same sex couples be allowed to marry?
Yes 7
No 77
Not Sure 16

Should gay couples receive any state or federal benefits?
Yes 11
No 68
Not Sure 21

Should openly gay men and women be allowed to
teach in public schools?
Yes 8
No 73
Not Sure 19
Oof. That's some serious neanderthal action going on. Gays can't serve their country, teach children, get married, or even have civil unions. That's the GOP agenda for gays, which makes the existence of the Log Cabin Republicans that much more of a mystery.

SCHOOLS
Should sex education be taught in the public schools?
Yes 42
No 51
Not Sure 7

Should public school students be taught that the book of Genesis in the Bible explains how God created the world?
Yes 77
No 15
Not Sure 8
In all of these questions, respondents from the South are slightly crazier, and those from the Northeast slightly less crazier, than the average. In these two questions, the differences are particularly exaggerated. In the South, the sex-ed question comes out 39-56, compared to 47-45 in the Northwest. For the creationism question, it's 82-9 in the South, compared to 70-23 in the Northwest.

I must admit, however, that I expected fewer Republicans to back sex ed. Another big surprise:

WOMEN
Are marrigiages equal partnerships, or are men the leaders of their households?
Men 13
Equal 76
Not Sure 11

Should women work outside the home?
Yes 86
No 4
Not Sure 10
Phyllis Schlafly is crying. That looks a lot more enlightened than I expected, likely because the economic reality is that few people can get away with single-income homes. But whatever the reason, on this front, there's progress. But that's where the progress ends:
Should contraceptive use be outlawed?
Yes 31
No 56
Not Sure 13

Do you believe the birth control pill is abortion?
Yes 34
No 48
Not Sure 18

Do you consider abortion to be murder?
Yes 76
No 8
Not Sure 16
Over a third of Republicans believe the birth control pill is abortion, which explains why nearly a third of them want contraceptive use outlawed. This is so wingnutty, it's hardly believable. But it's true, just a bare majority oppose outlawing contraceptives.

What we didn't ask was whether the 76 percent who consider abortion to be murder would advocate executions for women who have them. Since 91 percent of respondents support the death penalty.

One last question:
Do you believe that the only way for an individual to go to heaven is though Jesus Christ, or can one make it to heaven through another faith?
Christ 67
Other 15
Not Sure 18
Two-thirds of Republicans assume anyone that is not a Christian is going to hell. It certainly makes it easier for them to dehumanize their enemies, either real or perceived.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/2/2/832988/-The-2010-Comprehensive-Daily-Kos-Research-2000-Poll-of-Self-Identified-Republicans

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yes, yes, since the poll is in the KOS,

WHAT SELF-DESCRIBED REPUGS ACTUALLY SAID

is simply Faux! :lol

Scola
02-06-2010, 11:35 PM
Just so were all on the same page, lets define socialism. Take the wiki definition:

"Socialism refers to the various theories of economic organization advocating public or direct worker ownership and administration of the means of production (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Means_of_production) and allocation of resources (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resources), and a society characterized by equal access to resources for all individuals with a method of compensation based on the amount of labor expended.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism#cite_note-SocialismAVeryShortIntroduction-0)[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism#cite_note-1)[3] " (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism#cite_note-2)

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That is the basic theory, which to be honest I think is fairly decent, obviously in actual application it has tended to go pretty bad and has created very bad states...

In daily parlance however people rarely refer to this type of socialism, it used most often when talking about public policy. ex:

Conservative/Fox Reporter : "That new health care policy is socialist! It redistributes the wealth! <other nonsense>"

Marcus Bryant
02-06-2010, 11:50 PM
Do you believe George W Bush should be impeached?
Do you believe George W Bush is a fascist?
Do you believe Diebold stole the 2004 presidential election?
Do you believe George W Bush is a racist who hates black people?
Do you believe George W Bush and Dick Cheney ordered the 9/11 attacks?
Do you believe Dick Cheney eats live kittens?
Do you believe in reparations for slavery?
Do you believe the federal government created AIDS to eliminate African-Americans?
Do you believe the CIA created crack to destroy African-American communities?
etc....

I'm sure a poll of self-described Democrats circa 2006 would've turned out similar responses. BFD.

Wild Cobra
02-07-2010, 08:55 PM
with a method of compensation based on the amount of labor expended.
Yep... Based on the amount of labor expended means those who labor hard have little need for services, and are taxed to provide for those who labor little, or none.

TeyshaBlue
02-08-2010, 11:55 AM
And yet 95% of them favor small businesses. Do you think the poll questions were bad, or that socialism doesn't mean anything definite anymore?

I think that the plastic definitions of socialism have some impact. That, plus the poll seemed to discourage deep reflection by prefacing each question with "Off the top of your head". None of the other responses shock me although it's telling that the descriptor "big" makes a marked difference in the views of business and government.
I think the poll was meant to be a shallow sampling of thought...literally reflexive, off the top of your head. Were respondents asked to carefully consider their answers, I wonder if the results would have been different?

TeyshaBlue
02-08-2010, 11:58 AM
Here's some polling of Repugs, aka the village idiots.

The 2010 Comprehensive Daily Kos/Research 2000 Poll of Self-Identified Republicans

by kos (http://kos.dailykos.com/)

Tue Feb 02, 2010 at 08:58:03 AM PST

As I've mentioned before, I'm putting the finishing touches on my new book, American Taliban, which catalogues the ways in which modern-day conservatives share the same agenda as radical Jihadists in the Islamic world. But I found myself making certain claims about Republicans that I didn't know if they could be backed up. So I thought, "why don't we ask them directly?"

And so, this massive poll, by non-partisan independent pollster Research 2000 of over 2,000 self-identified Republicans, was born.

The results are nothing short of startling.

It's a long poll, so the results are summarized below the fold.

For a direct link to the poll's crosstabs, click here (http://www.dailykos.com/statepoll/2010/1/31/US/437).

Ultimately, these results explain why it is impossible for elected Republicans to work with Democrats to improve our country. Their base are conspiracy mongers who don't believe Obama was born in the United States, that he is the second coming of Lenin, and that he is racist against white people. They already want to impeach him despite the glaringly obvious lack of high crimes or misdemeanors. If any Republican strays and decides to do the right thing and try to work in a bipartisan fashion, they suffer primaries and attacks. Even the Maine twins have quit cooperating out of fear of their homegrown teabaggers.

Given what their base demands, and this poll illustrates them perfectly, it's no wonder the GOP is the party of no.


Research 2000 (http://www.dailykos.com/statepoll/2010/1/31/US/437) for Daily Kos. 1/20-31. Self-identified Republicans. MoE 2%

OBAMA and AMERICA
Should Barack Obama be impeached, or not?
Yes 39
No 32
Not Sure 29
For what? Who the heck knows. Who needs high crimes or misdemeanors when...
Do you think Barack Obama is a socialist?
Yes 63
No 21
Not Sure 16
That's the power of Fox News and Rush Limbaugh, after one year of relentlessly claiming Obama is the second coming of Lenin ... and Hitler!
Do you believe Barack Obama was born in the United States, or not?
Yes 42
No 36
Not Sure 22
We still have over a half of Republicans who don't think Obama was born in the US or think it's a matter open to debate.
Do you believe Barack Obama wants the terrorists to win?
Yes 24
No 43
Not Sure 33
Not just a quarter of Republicans believe this ludicrous premise, but another third think it's a matter open to debate. How do you negotiate with a party whose rank and file are that divorced from reality? And speaking of divorced from reality...
Do you believe ACORN stole the 2008 election?
Yes 21
No 24
Not Sure 55
One in five Republicans think ACORN is so powerful as to magically make 10 million votes appear. Another 55 are open to the theory. In other words, just 24 percent of Republicans have an even passing relationship with reality.
Do you believe Sarah Palin is more qualified to be President than Barack Obama?
Yes 53
No 14
Not Sure 33
Sigh...
Do you believe Barack Obama is a racist who hates White people?
Yes 31
No 36
Not Sure 33
I bet more people think Obama is racist, but were too afraid to tell a live operator the truth.
Do you believe your state should secede from the United States?
Yes 23
No 58
Not Sure 19
42 percent of Republicans aren't really patriotic. They pretend to love America only when they approve of the president. These traitors don't believe in democracy, in our nation's founding ideals, or in our flag. To them, those colors run. They are cowards.

Note, secession sentiment is MUCH stronger in the South than elsewhere -- 33 percent want out, compared to just 52 percent who want to stay. In the Northeast, "just" 10 percent want out, in the Midwest, its 18 percent, and in the West, it's 16 percent. Can we cram them all into the Texas Panhandle, create the state of Dumbfuckistan, and build a wall around them to keep them from coming into America illegally? :lol

ISSUES
Should Congress make it easier for workers to form and join labor unions?
Yes 7
No 68
Not Sure 25

Would you favor or oppose giving illegal immigrants now living in the United States the right to live here legally if they pay a fine and learn English?
Favor 26
Oppose 59
Not Sure 15

Do you support the death penalty?
Yes 91
No 4
Not Sure 5
GAYS
Should openly gay men and women be allowed to serve in the military?
Yes 26
No 55
Not Sure 19

Should same sex couples be allowed to marry?
Yes 7
No 77
Not Sure 16

Should gay couples receive any state or federal benefits?
Yes 11
No 68
Not Sure 21

Should openly gay men and women be allowed to
teach in public schools?
Yes 8
No 73
Not Sure 19
Oof. That's some serious neanderthal action going on. Gays can't serve their country, teach children, get married, or even have civil unions. That's the GOP agenda for gays, which makes the existence of the Log Cabin Republicans that much more of a mystery.

SCHOOLS
Should sex education be taught in the public schools?
Yes 42
No 51
Not Sure 7

Should public school students be taught that the book of Genesis in the Bible explains how God created the world?
Yes 77
No 15
Not Sure 8
In all of these questions, respondents from the South are slightly crazier, and those from the Northeast slightly less crazier, than the average. In these two questions, the differences are particularly exaggerated. In the South, the sex-ed question comes out 39-56, compared to 47-45 in the Northwest. For the creationism question, it's 82-9 in the South, compared to 70-23 in the Northwest.

I must admit, however, that I expected fewer Republicans to back sex ed. Another big surprise:

WOMEN
Are marrigiages equal partnerships, or are men the leaders of their households?
Men 13
Equal 76
Not Sure 11

Should women work outside the home?
Yes 86
No 4
Not Sure 10
Phyllis Schlafly is crying. That looks a lot more enlightened than I expected, likely because the economic reality is that few people can get away with single-income homes. But whatever the reason, on this front, there's progress. But that's where the progress ends:
Should contraceptive use be outlawed?
Yes 31
No 56
Not Sure 13

Do you believe the birth control pill is abortion?
Yes 34
No 48
Not Sure 18

Do you consider abortion to be murder?
Yes 76
No 8
Not Sure 16
Over a third of Republicans believe the birth control pill is abortion, which explains why nearly a third of them want contraceptive use outlawed. This is so wingnutty, it's hardly believable. But it's true, just a bare majority oppose outlawing contraceptives.

What we didn't ask was whether the 76 percent who consider abortion to be murder would advocate executions for women who have them. Since 91 percent of respondents support the death penalty.

One last question:
Do you believe that the only way for an individual to go to heaven is though Jesus Christ, or can one make it to heaven through another faith?
Christ 67
Other 15
Not Sure 18
Two-thirds of Republicans assume anyone that is not a Christian is going to hell. It certainly makes it easier for them to dehumanize their enemies, either real or perceived.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/2/2/832988/-The-2010-Comprehensive-Daily-Kos-Research-2000-Poll-of-Self-Identified-Republicans

=====

yes, yes, since the poll is in the KOS,

WHAT SELF-DESCRIBED REPUGS ACTUALLY SAID

is simply Faux! :lol

This poll has already been completly destroyed. Honestly, any 8 year old could take it apart. But, I'm not surprised you continue to cling to it like a lifevest since it reinforces your apparently hardwired, chisled in stone opinions.:rolleyes