Medina gets Bushwacked by Glenn Beck

[Nbadan]

....they're calling her a twofer now because she doesn't trust the govt...


8j2Ov6u9e38

.....and somewhere a lot of Republicans are whimpering...

.... :lol

[spursncowboys]

She's gonna beat KBH and go to the run-off.

[doobs]

Wow, what an idiot. That's one of the easiest questions to answer for a politician.

[Nbadan]

It's no secret that wing-nut radio has been in Perry's pocket from the very beginning....I mean....sure Hutch has been anything but a fiscal conservative in Washington, but Perry blackmails regents and seats aides and lobbyists on high-salary cozy state boards....

:rolleyes

....why hasn't talk radio attacked Perry?

[Nbadan]

It's because the GOP establishment hates the tea-party movement....they hate them with every fragment of their cold black hearts...

[Nbadan]

Wing-nuts, like Lush and Beckkk envision a Palin-Perry ticket, that's their wet dream...they can't sit around and watch the next GOP golden boy go down in flames to a 'liberal wackjab' like Medina....that's exactly how they'll play it...

[ChumpDumper]

What a weird response from Medina.

[Winehole23]

She didn't exactly support twofers, but she hesitated to throw them overboard. That might be bad enough to kill what slender hopes she had of reaching a runoff. (In which, of course, Rick Perry would squash Medina.)

[Galileo]

....they're calling her a twofer now because she doesn't trust the govt...


8j2Ov6u9e38

.....and somewhere a lot of Republicans are whimpering...

.... :lol

Medina is on fire! $50,000 raised since Beck attack!
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=231078

:hat

:flag:

[Galileo]

Donations to Medina today: 100,000.00+ $$$$$$
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/125013

[spursncowboys]

It's no secret that wing-nut radio has been in Perry's pocket from the very beginning....I mean....sure Hutch has been anything but a fiscal conservative in Washington, but Perry blackmails regents and seats aides and lobbyists on high-salary cozy state boards....

:rolleyes

....why hasn't talk radio attacked Perry?

The wing-nut radio? Are you saying popular talk radio people get together to decide who they are going to help get elected as if some kind of conspiracy?

[Marcus Bryant]

Naturally the 'nuts' in crackland are the ones who don't believe the federal government orchestrated the 9/11 attacks.

[Nbadan]

The wing-nut radio? Are you saying popular talk radio people get together to decide who they are going to help get elected as if some kind of conspiracy?

Are you saying that Glenn Beckkk, Hannity, and Lush act independently without influence from CCC, Faux News, the RNC and the fat wallets that pay their salaries?

[Nbadan]

Naturally the 'nuts' in crackland are the ones who don't believe the federal government orchestrated the 9/11 attacks.

The Nuts in crackland are those that believe that the Bush administration is capable of conducting a non-politically motivated investigation on itself...

[Marcus Bryant]

Of course. They haven't proven they didn't do it.

Meanwhile, in reality, Funky Cold just ended her 15 seconds in Texas politics.

[Nbadan]

Bamm...from FAUX News...


What Is the Tea Party Movement About?
Small government and fiscal responsibility 15% (28,413 votes)
Exposing Democrats' socialist agenda 1% (2,130 votes)
Voicing outrage at out-of-touch politicians 6% (10,867 votes)
Fruitless mix of racism, conspiracy theories 78% (152,988 votes)
Other (add your comment) 1% (1,380 votes)

FAUX News (http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2010/02/09/think-tea-party-movement/)

[Nbadan]

Of course. They haven't proven they didn't do it.

Meanwhile, in reality, Funky Cold just ended her 15 seconds in Texas politics.

They haven't proven who did do it either, hell, they're not even looking for the main suspect they had for years anymore..

[Marcus Bryant]

True, in Crackland it hasn't been.

[Nbadan]

This isn't about Medina being a twofer.....it's about wing-nut radio's love for Rick Perry...

...people don't care about 9/11, that was so 2001...

[SnakeBoy]

This isn't about Medina being a twofer.....it's about wing-nut radio's love for Rick Perry...

...people don't care about 9/11, that was so 2001...

He asks her a question, she fucks up the answer, and you call it bushwacked. So I guess now you agree with those who thought Couric bushwacked Palin. Your such a moron:rolleyes.

[PublicOption]

no property taxes and an across the board sales tax is all I need to know from her. she has my vote.

[Marcus Bryant]

Naturally it isn't about the obvious, because the obvious isn't cool to a bunch of pre-teens.

[DarrinS]

She got Bushwacked? Really?

Sounds more like whe got TwoofWacked.


Sorry Dan,

twooferism = instant crazy = not gonna be my governor

[Nbadan]

He asks her a question, she fucks up the answer, and you call it bushwacked. So I guess now you agree with those who thought Couric bushwacked Palin. Your such a moron:rolleyes.

You think its gonna stop there and some GOP big-wigs are gonna come running to defend Medina like they did Palin? The right-wing echo chamber has its teeth into Medina and it has no intention on letting go...

[Nbadan]

...the question remains how long before the wing-nuts throw the tea-baggers under the bus too...as things are going, this precarious 'coalition' may not make it to Nov. 2010

[DarrinS]

You think its gonna stop there and some GOP big-wigs are gonna come running to defend Medina like they did Palin? The right-wing echo chamber has its teeth into Medina and it has no intention on letting go...


Meh, here's what the far left-wing thinks of your dipshit theories

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After Dan watched that video


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[Nbadan]

Meh, here's what the far left-wing thinks of your dipshit theories

Bill Maher? Really? Short on Alex Jones videos?

[Wild Cobra]

Bamm...from FAUX News...


What Is the Tea Party Movement About?
Small government and fiscal responsibility 15% (28,413 votes)
Exposing Democrats' socialist agenda 1% (2,130 votes)
Voicing outrage at out-of-touch politicians 6% (10,867 votes)
Fruitless mix of racism, conspiracy theories 78% (152,988 votes)
Other (add your comment) 1% (1,380 votes)

FAUX News (http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2010/02/09/think-tea-party-movement/)
Yep, that's what happens when immoral people vote a gazillion times.

How many timers did you vote? Did you and your friends get together and vote 152,700 times?

I'll bet if someone searched hard enough, we can find a liberal site directing people to vote for this option.

[PublicOption]

.....I see them turning on teabaggers as the election get closer....weird tactic......and have you noticed Steele has been missing lately?????

these guys are going to try and run that new guy out there.

is it me or are national candidates looking more and more like manchurian candidates as time goes on........BUSH, OBAMA, PALIN, McCain......they are either bought by lobbyists or just plain dumb enough to let lobbyists rule the country.

[DarrinS]

Bill Maher? Really? Short on Alex Jones videos?



It's weird how I don't agree with ChumpDumper on many political issues, and yet we both agree that you are a loony conspiracy dumbfuck.

[Galileo]

Lew Rockwell says robocalls from Perry made only 90 minutes after the Beck interview
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=231010

[ChumpDumper]

Yep, that's what happens when immoral people vote a gazillion times.:lmao

Immoral internets poll voting!

[Nbadan]

It's weird how I don't agree with ChumpDumper on many political issues, and yet we both agree that you are a loony conspiracy dumbfuck.

...and your the face of the Texas GOP..

[DarrinS]

I don't care if you are a liberal progressive democrat, a litertarian, a or a right-wing conservative -- if you are moonbat 911 loose change conspiracy dork, you are not getting elected.


</dumb fucking thread>

[DarrinS]

...and your the face of the Texas GOP..



I'm not GOP you fucking idiot.


And it is "you're" as in YOU ARE AN IDIOT!

[Nbadan]

....she never said she thought the govt. committed 9/11, Glen Beckkk did..

...but since when have facts been important to cross-burners?

[ChumpDumper]

....she never said she thought the govt. committed 9/11, Glen Beckkk did..

...but since when have facts been important to cross-burners?The fact is she basically committed political suicide on the air.

It's a damn shame when you get intellectually cornered by Glenn Beck.

[SnakeBoy]

...the question remains how long before the wing-nuts throw the tea-baggers under the bus too...as things are going, this precarious 'coalition' may not make it to Nov. 2010

After the interview Beck went on to talk about how the tea party movement was doomed if they didn't toss out the wingnuts. You probably need me to point out to you that Medina is the wingnut in this case.

[Marcus Bryant]

"Immoral."

"Cross-burners."

[Nbadan]

After the interview Beck went on to talk about how the tea party movement was doomed if they didn't toss out the wingnuts. You probably need me to point out to you that Medina is the wingnut in this case.

Duh! Beckkk gets his marching orders from the GOP establishment, which hates the grassroots movement, so they will portray any candidate the tea-baggers put up as a looney...and the teabaggers fade into history...

[Wild Cobra]

Earlier in the poll:

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x262/Wild_Cobra/Politics/tea1.jpg

Later in the poll:

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x262/Wild_Cobra/Politics/tea2.jpg

This is a clear case of liberals banning together to spoil a poll. When I did a search, I found it on several sites. I figured I would show this simple graphic one site showed, and add the current. Comparing the two, I would say the spoiling clearly started before the first graphic. The second graphic has the fourth response more than 10:1 times the first response, when the first has it the ratio about 2:1.

Clear spoiling by people of very poor moral character.

[ChumpDumper]

Earlier in the poll:

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x262/Wild_Cobra/Politics/tea1.jpg

Later in the poll:

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x262/Wild_Cobra/Politics/tea2.jpg

This is a clear case of liberals banning together to spoil a poll. When I did a search, I found it on several sites. I figured I would show this simple graphic one site showed, and add the current. Comparing the two, I would say the spoiling clearly started before the first graphic. The second graphic has the fourth response more than 10:1 times the first response, when the first has it the ratio about 2:1.

Clear spoiling by people of very poor moral character.O


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:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin: rollin:rollin

[George Gervin's Afro]

Earlier in the poll:

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x262/Wild_Cobra/Politics/tea1.jpg

Later in the poll:

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x262/Wild_Cobra/Politics/tea2.jpg

This is a clear case of liberals banning together to spoil a poll. When I did a search, I found it on several sites. I figured I would show this simple graphic one site showed, and add the current. Comparing the two, I would say the spoiling clearly started before the first graphic. The second graphic has the fourth response more than 10:1 times the first response, when the first has it the ratio about 2:1.

Clear spoiling by people of very poor moral character.

so polls can be unreliable?

[Marcus Bryant]

Tonight two strong contenders have emerged for Forum Dumbass. Stay tuned to find out who will claim the crown.

[DarrinS]

The fact is she basically committed political suicide on the air.

It's a damn shame when you get intellectually cornered by Glenn Beck.


No shit, right?

[Nbadan]

Tonight two strong contenders have emerged for Forum Dumbass. Stay tuned to find out who will claim the crown.

We have a winner!

:lol

[Marcus Bryant]

Nah, I think Cobra Commander edged you out.

[Nbadan]

Damn....but I'd like to point out that global-climate change deniers have a natural edge...

[Wild Cobra]

Here it is. A common theme among some liberal sites. From AGRSSOR dot com (http://www.agrssor.com/reddit/fox-news-poll-what-do-you-think-tea-party-movement-is-about-fruitless-mix-of-racism-conspiracy-theories-is-one-of-the-choices-you-know-what-to-do):


Fox News Poll: "What Do You Think Tea Party Movement Is About?" "Fruitless mix of racism, conspiracy theories" is one of the choices. You know what to do.

Now look at this:

Fruitless mix of racism, conspiracy theories is at 50% thanks to reddit. (http://gracenmichelle.tumblr.com/post/382060663/fruitless-mix-of-racism-conspiracy-theories-is-at)

Now this:

Fox News Poll: "What Do You Think Tea Party Movement Is About?" "Fruitless mix of racism, conspiracy theories" is one of the choices. You know what to do. (http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/b0ek4/fox_news_poll_what_do_you_think_tea_party/)

Lemming libtards, following orders...

[Nbadan]

The fact is she basically committed political suicide on the air.

It's a damn shame when you get intellectually cornered by Glenn Beck.

Intellectually cornered? Have you even listened to the interview? I'm no fan of Medina, but Beckkk bushwacked her....who cares about 911 in Texas?

[Marcus Bryant]

I'm shocked that something like that would happen on the internets.

[Wild Cobra]

so polls can be unreliable?

My God George. Just how dumb do you get?

The poll specifically states "This is not a scientific poll."

[Marcus Bryant]

So where's the immorality?

[DarrinS]

/Nbadan

[Nbadan]

I'm shocked this can happen on any Frank Luntz poll too...

[Wild Cobra]

/Nbadan

No shit.

When will people here learn, he is only good for propaganda, That's why I call him Propaganda Dan.

[Nbadan]

No shit.

When will people here learn, he is only good for propaganda, That's why I call him Propaganda Dan.

smite me with your truthful smite, oh mighty smiter..

..Oh, that's right, you can't...

[ChumpDumper]

Intellectually cornered? Have you even listened to the interview? I'm no fan of Medina, but Beckkk bushwacked her....who cares about 911 in Texas?Exactly.

They only care if a Republican political candidate vaguely expresses sympathy to the twoofer viewpoint and fails to flatly refute US government involvement.

I mean, damn -- all she had to do was say she didn't think the government was involved in 9/11.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

The Nuts in crackland are those that believe that the Bush administration is capable of conducting a non-politically motivated investigation on itself...

chumpdumper has full comprehension of every line of every report. it's air tight. Like that episode of simpsons where homer proved god doesn't exist on his tax return.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

My coworker was completely aghast sometime this morning telling me what had just happened on Beck's show. When I heard it being talked about on other radio stations by 6 oclock...I knew this was huge.

This chick must be one of the biggest retards in political history.

[ChumpDumper]

Yep.

[Galileo]

Sarah Palin Supports A New 9/11 Investigation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPDbmQmV6O8&feature=player_embedded

[Galileo]

....they're calling her a twofer now because she doesn't trust the govt...


8j2Ov6u9e38

.....and somewhere a lot of Republicans are whimpering...

.... :lol

FEMA Attacks Medina!

The former head of the Federal Emergency Management Agency under George W. Bush:

"Ms. Medina – this is nuts!" former FEMA executive Joe Allbaugh, a Perry supporter, responded in a written statement. "If you really believe that there are legitimate questions yet to be answered about whether the U.S. government was involved in the 9/11 attacks, in my opinion, you have no business running for the governor of Texas."

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/politics/state/stories/021210dntexmedina.425478b.html

With enemies like FEMA, who needs friends?

FEMA, Glenn Beck, the Dallas Morning News, etc. have all helped solidify Medina's anti-establishment credentials.

Go Deb!

:lmao

[ChumpDumper]

FEMA, Glenn Beck, the Dallas Morning News, etc. have all helped solidify Medina's anti-establishment credentials.
There is no doubt in my mind that Muslim terrorists flew planes into those buildings on 9/11. I have not seen any evidence, nor have I ever believed that our government was involved or directed those individuals in any way.

http://www.statesman.com/news/texas-politics/medina-at-first-takes-a-pass-when-asked-230167.html

Looks like she didn't care to have those credentials.

[Galileo]

http://www.statesman.com/news/texas-politics/medina-at-first-takes-a-pass-when-asked-230167.html

Looks like she didn't care to have those credentials.

Don't worry. The Media won't report that.

[ChumpDumper]

Don't worry. The Media won't report that.Uh Rolf, that is a media report.

[Galileo]

Caller responds to Beck after Medina interview.
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=231115

[ChumpDumper]

Don't worry. The Media won't report that.


http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/politics/state/stories/021210dntexmedina.425478b.html

It was in the media report you linked, Rolf.

[admiralsnackbar]

Don't worry. The Media won't report that.

Mean Mister Harry Reid will taze them before they get the chance! :eyebrows

[Galileo]

Medina responds on KLIF 570
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=231094

[PublicOption]

Glenn Beck and FOX work for the Republican Party, that was sabotage.....you tea partiers better wake up.

FOX does not support the Tea Party they support the GOP. they are killing common sense candidates (RON PAUL) and trying to stay(take back power).

[SouthernFried]

I don't understand Medina supporters.

Got nothing against her. She was asked a simple question, and wouldn't answer it...and her supporters go nuts.

She should have answered it yes or no. Simple.

Instead she equivocated. Which means to me, and prolly a lot of others...that she may think the govt was somehow involved in 911, but didn't want to say that cuz of the perception most people have of truthers.

It wasn't sabotaged, she didn't need to "prepare" for the simple question...she just needed to answer it, and didn't.

Nothing nefarious or complicated here.

[RandomGuy]

What a weird response from Medina.

She is a "controlled demolition/free fall" nut.

Her "clarification" pretty much outlined that later.

She does believe the planes hit the towers piloted by suicidal muslims. She doesn't think the Bush administration had anything to do with that.

She VERY specifically didn't address how the towers collapsed.

The "unanswered questions" bit is a code phrase for the Rosie O'Donnel "free fall" people who believe that the government blew up the towers in a massive pyrotechnic display.

[Oh, Gee!!]

her campaign is a "free fall"

[boutons_deux]

"Beckkk gets his marching orders from the GOP establishment"

BecKKK's boss is Roger Ailes, who has more influence via the all the nasties and their guests who spout off for Fox Repug News Propaganda Channel than the GOP itself.

[boutons_deux]

Medina gets ambushed by BecKKK's 9/11 Truther silliness, speaks more to her seriousness than it does to her being ready to counter all the paranoid fantasies and "connections" that BecKKK and his ilk dream up.

She's probably more able to talk about real problems than BecKKK is, or would ever want to be.

Silly her for being an adult and not ready to "play" BecKKK's games.

[EmptyMan]

She still has my vote going on a year now.

[RandomGuy]

Meh. Beck is an ass and, quite arguably, a tad crazy.

But he asked her a rather pointed question, and she revealed more of what is going on in her brain than is healthy for her political career.

His motives or credentials matter for nothing here.

Her answer does.

She has placed herself squarely in the "controlled demolition" school of thought, with all that implies.

Let the figurative beatings begin. She will win the votes of the twoofers who will, laughably, have to register for the party of George Bush to be able to vote for her in the primary.

She will also lose badly, although, speaking as a Democrat, I would LOVE for her to win the nomination, just as I would love for Sarah Palin to be the national party pick in 2012.

:lmao

mmmmm tasty schadenfreude.

[RandomGuy]

No property taxes in Texas? That sounds GREAT! What's the catch?

It's not a new idea, but it's guaranteed to get attention: The government is taxing us out of our homes, so let's abolish property taxes!

Just think of the thousands of dollars a typical homeowner has to pay in property taxes. It would be great not to have to do that.

Debra Medina, the independent-minded candidate in the Republican primary race for governor, has made this idea one of the staples of her third-place-but-gaining campaign.

It was one of the suggestions put on the table in 2003-2006 when legislators were struggling to find a way to revamp public school funding.

Rep. Phil King of Weatherford has pushed it. He introduced a bill in last year's legislative session that would have ended property taxes by Jan. 1, 2014. The bill was assigned to a committee and died there.

The problem is that local governments depend heavily on property tax revenue. It brings in more than half of the money used to build and run public schools. Same thing for city and county government.

So, unless you want to do without schools and the services that local governments provide, you have to come up with a new -- and you would hope better -- way to bring in money.

Medina and others say they have the perfect option: a higher and perhaps broader sales tax. It's better, they say, because it's more fair; people can control how much they spend on taxable items and thus how much tax they have to pay.

Lots of well-intentioned people -- many from the world of politics -- swear it will work. They may be right, but don't let them get you to believe it will be painless.

First you have to figure out how much money you're talking about. The state comptroller's office says property taxes brought in $35.1 billion for local governments and school districts in 2007, the last year for which complete figures are available. There is no state property tax.

Next comes deciding how to raise that much money with a sales tax and how to do it fairly across the state.

One way is to broaden the tax, making it apply to more purchases than it does today.

Some purchases -- motor vehicles, for example -- are taxed in other ways, so they're exempt from the sales tax. Food purchased for home consumption and prescription and over-the-counter medications are not taxed, and few people believe they should be.

The biggest of all exemptions is for equipment and materials used in manufacturing. To tax that, people argue, would just drive up the cost of finished goods bought by consumers. Newspapers also are exempt for fear of driving up the cost of advertising and thus the cost of finished goods.

Professional services aren't taxed. Doctors and lawyers want to keep that exemption.

See where we're going? The low-hanging sales tax fruit already has been picked.

OK, so move on to increasing the sales tax rate in search of enough money. Talmadge Heflin, former House budget chief and now an analyst on fiscal issues for the Texas Public Policy Foundation, says it could be done by raising the rate to 12.5 percent from its current 8.25 percent maximum -- but we would have to tax the sale of property. (Good luck getting that one past the home builders and Realtors.)

I'm no expert, but I compared sales tax revenue in Fort Worth with property tax revenue for the city and Tarrant County's largest school districts. My guess is that a sales tax rate of at least 15.75 percent would be needed to balance the books if property taxes were eliminated.

Would that work across the state? Would it pay the bills in Fort Worth and Fort Stockton? Would it raise enough money or too much?

Good questions. No easy answers.

Mike Norman is editorial director of the Star-Telegram/ Arlington and Northeast Tarrant County.

http://www.star-telegram.com/242/story/1963742.html

[CosmicCowboy]

Back on topic, I don't think it was a bushwhack...Beck asked a straight question and she blew it.

She just had her Clayton Williams moment. She is done for the 2010 election cycle.

She was on a roll before this fuck up but three weeks to the primary is too little time and she has too little money to counter the new perception that she is just a little nutty.

I never expected her to beat Perry under the best of circumstances but really thought she could push Hutchison out of the runoff.

She can forget that now.

[Galileo]

Medina interview Mike Church Show 2/12
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=231237

[Marcus Bryant]

Back on topic, I don't think it was a bushwhack...Beck asked a straight question and she blew it.

She just had her Clayton Williams moment. She is done for the 2010 election cycle.

She was on a roll before this fuck up but three weeks to the primary is too little time and she has too little money to counter the new perception that she is just a little nutty.

I never expected her to beat Perry under the best of circumstances but really thought she could push Hutchison out of the runoff.

She can forget that now.


True.

The weird/sad thing is that she'd be mainstream in this forum.

[SnakeBoy]

Medina interview Mike Church Show 2/12
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=231237

That forum is hilarious. "It's just a bump in the road", "onward to victory"...good stuff :lol. Delusional people can be funny.