Sequ's Whining Thread

[SequSpur]

Mavs trade for 27 ppg and 18 rpg....

Spurs do nothing.


:pctoss

[Man In Black]

Just to point out, those 27 points and 18 rebounds are from what they got as Wizards, there is no guarantee that they'll be able to achieve those numbers as Mavs. If you need proof that numbers don't always translate...see Richard Jefferson.

[Sean Cagney]

They won't make a trade, book it. All these stupid threads about a Kings announcer saying we were close to a trade for a PG or a F and now they get a F and a C! Spurs were REALLY CLOSE I guess lol, I hate that thread now.

Go Spurs go (NOWHERE).

[ffadicted]

Beforehand, the Jefferson trade > Butler trade. Quit being whiny

Although I kinda agree lol

[BlackSwordsMan]

RJ 21 PPG, spurs are in good shape!

[IronMexican]

It's time for SA to shake some shit up. Sasha and Luke for Manu

[sananspursfan21]

It's time for SA to shake some shit up. Sasha and Luke for Manu


hahaha. how bout odom, sasha and luke walton for manu

[Baseline]

The Mavs have seriously upgraded. I have no idea why Washington would do that trade. Obviously Jamison is on the way out soon.

If Cleveland gets Jamison, you can lock in their ring this year.

[poop]

dont worry guys when we land the richard jefferson trade we are back on top.

[EricB]

So much for raising the bar...

[Old School 44]

I kind of like the Dallas trade for the Spurs. It kind of reminds me of the J-Kidd for Devin Harris trade. It moves a guy, Josh Howard, who always seemed to give the Spurs trouble. Drew Gooden also seems to play his best ball against the Spurs too.

[TheSpursFNRule]

We need to go young. Surround Timmy with useful young talent, let Blair and Hill take the reigns and ship everyone else out for some youth. The 48moh article summed it up. Manu I still believe in, but Parker is the oldest 27 year old in the league. These guys were told not to play over the summer, we give them enormous contracts and look what we get in return.

[Sean Cagney]

I kind of like the Dallas trade for the Spurs. It kind of reminds me of the J-Kidd for Devin Harris trade. It moves a guy, Josh Howard, who always seemed to give the Spurs trouble. Drew Gooden also seems to play his best ball against the Spurs too.

Gooden for what one game or so this year? Surely not in Cleveland during those finals :lol:lol. Howard was a mismatch like Harris yes, but seriously we thought tha and then last year (Although Manu hurt) we go and lose to Dallas in the playoffs after we thought they were down! Now they get Butler and Haywood, who at times should and could be put on Tim too when Dampier is out! Thats not good!

Dallas got better, we are staying pat? We need to get somewhat better to and get this division and then go from there, if not they win it and we are out in round one or two.

[SouthTexasRancher]

It's time for SA to shake some shit up. Sasha and Luke for Manu


Yeah, IronMexican, now that we've seen that your Lakers play so much better without Kobe and our Spurs play so much better without Tony Parker. You guys need a point guard and we need a take over guy in the 4th qtr. so let's trade! That way Eva doesn't have to fly back to LA to film her spot in DHs! Plus Kobe has always said he'd love to play for Pop and play alongside of Tim & Manu.

And if you are really wanting to get rid of Sasha & Luke we'll trade you Finley straight up. :toast

[baseline bum]

I'd trade Manu to get Iguodala, but I'm not so sure for Butler.

[SouthTexasRancher]

Caron Butler and Brendan Haywood have really helped the Wizards get the best record in the NBA the past several years. Much like Josh Howard and Drew Gooden have helped their respective teams win so many NBA Championships over the same length of time.

I remember that once upon a time, many moons ago, the coming of RJ & Dice would garrronteeeee that the Spurs would be NBA Champs this season and next. Trades to try and shake up a team in mid-season rarely work out that season. Little gayboy Markie Cuban had her ego hurt that nobody was talking about him/her and the Mavs even though the All Star festivities are being held in Dallas. Bottom line is the Mavs should be a little better but, they still won't win a championship....not even the Western Conference Championship. :ihit

[FeZZy]

:bang

[hsxvvd]

Butler > Jefferson.

Simple. The question needs to be, did we jump the gun trading our expirings, clearly the market is quite high.

Out only savior might be that the value of expiring contracts are worth more next year, in which case Jefferson's deal will be worth something decent.

[ffadicted]

Butler > Jefferson

Absolutely untrue at the time of the trade imo. I think the spurs made an excellent move acquiring Jefferson, nobody could've predicted how it turned out

[murpjf88]

Absolutely untrue at the time of the trade imo. I think the spurs made an excellent move acquiring Jefferson, nobody could've predicted how it turned out

Well, I tried, but I came off as being Jefferson's ex-fiance. Butler is not a problem. He's streaky, but he has the potential to be another Jefferson and he shoots just 27% from the arc. Its Haywood that makes this deal work.

[AussieFanKurt]

ever thought maybe those teams didnt want anything from us?

[DAF86]

ever thought maybe those teams didnt want anything from us?

Seeing what the Wizards settled for, no I don't think that.

[mudyez]

Mavs trade for 27 ppg and 18 rpg....

Spurs do nothing.


:pctoss

Mavs give up 26ppg 14rpg....

Spurs do nothing!

not that it means anything!

[Lars]

Mavs trade for 27 ppg and 18 rpg....

Spurs do nothing.


:pctoss

You traded for Jefferson and it was a disaster.

[Muser]

You traded for Jefferson and it was a disaster.

No, if the Spurs don't get a good deal with his expiring next year then it was a disaster.

[rascal]

I kind of like the Dallas trade for the Spurs. It kind of reminds me of the J-Kidd for Devin Harris trade. It moves a guy, Josh Howard, who always seemed to give the Spurs trouble. Drew Gooden also seems to play his best ball against the Spurs too.

The trade is not good for the spurs. The Mavs upgraded on the frontline and Butler is better than Howard overall.

That "spur killer" thing is overblown and in no way diminishes the upgrades that Dallas made with this trade.

[rascal]

Caron Butler and Brendan Haywood have really helped the Wizards get the best record in the NBA the past several years. Much like Josh Howard and Drew Gooden have helped their respective teams win so many NBA Championships over the same length of time.

I remember that once upon a time, many moons ago, the coming of RJ & Dice would garrronteeeee that the Spurs would be NBA Champs this season and next. Trades to try and shake up a team in mid-season rarely work out that season. Little gayboy Markie Cuban had her ego hurt that nobody was talking about him/her and the Mavs even though the All Star festivities are being held in Dallas. Bottom line is the Mavs should be a little better but, they still won't win a championship....not even the Western Conference Championship. :ihit

The Pistons traded for Wallace at mid season and they went on to win the title.

Mid season trades can work out, depends on the trade and the team.

Most championship teams don't make mid season trades because they are playing as a top team by the trade deadline and don't need them but if your playing like the spurs are playing now, not a top contender then a trade makes sense.

[rascal]

I'd trade Manu to get Iguodala, but I'm not so sure for Butler.

Manu for Butler is a no brainer. Manu is finished in a couple of years.

Butler is a borderline star with more productive years left in the tank.

[Big P]

maybe we can sign josh howard next year.

[silverblk mystix]

You never know how things will work out...on paper a Great Trade for the mavs...

but how will it play out?

What if the mavs have to play the lakers before the spurs do? what if the mavs eliminate the lakers?
what if the spurs gel?

it will get interesting from here on out...although during the Spurs/Nuggets game --Doug Collins was mentioning the conversation with Pop and saying that there were definitely going to be some changes?

that pop's answers and pop's mood led him to believe that something HAD to be done..

maybe or maybe not a trade---but something had to be done...?

[Old School 44]

The trade is not good for the spurs. The Mavs upgraded on the frontline and Butler is better than Howard overall.

That "spur killer" thing is overblown and in no way diminishes the upgrades that Dallas made with this trade.

I'm just commenting on a "known", Josh Howard as a Mav against the Spurs vs. the unknown of Caron Butler as a Mav against the Spurs.
Really, I just think we need to take a wait and see approach.

Butler put up good numbers on a bad team, ala Jefferson and the Bucks, so I reserve full judgement until I really seem him and Haywood play some games with the Mavs.

[AFBlue]

How about the Spurs and Lakers meet half way and become the Las Vegas Gamblers.

PG: Parker/Hill/Brown
SG: Kobe/Manu/Mason
SF: Artest/Odom/RJ
PF: Duncan/Gasol
C: Bynum/Blair

Pop coaches the road games and Phil coaches the home games.

Why not?

I liked that "Team Texas" idea from last night's Shooting Stars competition...

PG: Parker/Kidd/Brooks
SG: Manu/Terry
SF: Butler/Ariza
PF: Duncan/Nowitzki
C: Haywood/Landry/Blair

[pjjrfan]

Butler is a player who will help, how soon I don't know, but I agree with Barkley and Kenney, a team that was already good just got tougher, the mental tougher kind.

[Cane]

Mavs trade for 27 ppg and 18 rpg....

Spurs do nothing.


:pctoss

Yea right, the Spurs are likely on the phones more than ever. They've been trying to improve their squad ever since RJ and McDyess cemented themselves as disappointments.

Imo more than ever they know they have to ante up; along with the rest of the West including LA since they're no longer as great.

[Allanon]

What if the mavs have to play the lakers before the spurs do? what if the mavs eliminate the lakers?
For this to happen, either the Lakers or Mavs would have to drop in the standings or the Spurs have to move ahead of of them. This is very unlikely considering that the Lakers are 9.5 games ahead and the Spurs have a brutal schedule while the Mavs have it easy. The RRT is a piece of cake compared to what comes in March/April.



what if the spurs gel?

It's possible.

At the same time there is the chance they don't gel and the result may be disastrous. Manu is expiring and may possibly leave with the Spurs getting nothing back. And since the Spurs are already at the salary cap, there's no space to replace Manu other than RJ's expiring next year and the MLE.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Some people on this thread are total homers.

This makes the Mavs better, but they were already better than SA anyway.

[ElNono]

On paper, they look much improved... then again, RJ looked great on paper too...

[vander]

RJ 21 PPG, spurs are in good shape!

playoff time RJ will step it up, ST nation will be stunned

[silverblk mystix]

Allanon,

it is possible that ---while the mavs new additions are acclimating to their teammates---that the Spurs sneak in and grab the division ---thereby avoiding the lakers til a later round...
and it's possible the spurs DON'T gel---but just as likely that they surprise a few doubters and actually finish strong...

you never know...

[jason1301]

Hahahahahaha ppl are going crazy over the Mavs trade, but lets be honest, they were on a pretty bad losing streak. Good luck to them trying to integrate two new players into their rotation.

Pop was just messing up with our rotation, and he ll use the All Star break to figure things out. Changes are coming, no doubt about it.

[tdunk21]

It's time for SA to shake some shit up. Sasha and Luke for Manu

time to shake some shit for SA but not trade for worse than shit.....

[vander]

It's time for SA to shake some shit up. Sasha and Luke for Manu

throw in 2 first round picks and you have a deal

[ohmwrecker]

Manu for Butler is a no brainer. Manu is finished in a couple of years.

Butler is a borderline star with more productive years left in the tank.

Yep. It's too bad the Spurs didn't do this deal last year when it was still on the table. Now we just have to wait for another miracle.

Wish in one hand and crap in the other . . .

[ducks]

The Pistons traded for Wallace at mid season and they went on to win the title.

Mid season trades can work out, depends on the trade and the team.

Most championship teams don't make mid season trades because they are playing as a top team by the trade deadline and don't need them but if your playing like the spurs are playing now, not a top contender then a trade makes sense.

pistons one team how many did but did not work out


had rj worked out so far no
spurs could easily be contenders

[Mel_13]

Yep. It's too bad the Spurs didn't do this deal last year when it was still on the table. Now we just have to wait for another miracle.

Wish in one hand and crap in the other . . .

Outside of some threads on ST, that trade was not on the table last year.

[spurtech09]

spurs don't need a trade.....if pop stops playing small ball and use Ian in the line up everything would be better.....also theo some mins as well

[Capt Bringdown]

This makes the Mavs better, but they were already better than SA anyway.

Exactly. I don't know if even a blockbuster trade would help the Spurs at this point. Our needs and deficiencies are so great.

[Allanon]

Allanon,

it is possible that ---while the mavs new additions are acclimating to their teammates---that the Spurs sneak in and grab the division ---thereby avoiding the lakers til a later round...
and it's possible the spurs DON'T gel---but just as likely that they surprise a few doubters and actually finish strong...

you never know...

If the schedule were easier, I'd give it a shot.

But the remaining Spurs schedule is by far the most difficult in the NBA.

6 Back 2 Backs
75% of the games are against Playoff/close to Playoff opponents
And the Spurs are tied with Utah for the most road games remaining.


In contrast the Mavs only have 13 road games left and maybe only 40% against playoff level competition.

[SequSpur]

Dick J isn't worth 14 mil.
RMJ Jr wants out....
Tony Parker is a lil bitch.
Pop will pay Matt Bonner David Robinson money.
Manu wants out and is pissed because he can't get an extension.
Ian can't play because Pop doesn't want to pay to keep him.
Popovich is senile and can't coach a girlscout team.
McDice can barely walk.
Blair wants to win the MVP of a got damn rookie game so he can get respect.
Peter Holt drinks to much.
Finley and Bogans should be waived immediately.
George Hill is naked on facebook/myspace/twitter and the wnba.com....

Did I forget anyone?

Spurs fucking suck balls.

[SequSpur]

I think there is more to Tony Parker's story...Dude has some bullshit injuries compared to the shit that Kobe and Wade play through....

I would stay tuned on that front...

[tp2021]

Peter Holt drinks to much.
What an ass.


George Hill is naked on facebook/myspace/twitter and the wnba.com....

You're just mad nobody wants to see little(r) Sequ.



Did I forget anyone?

Yeah. You are short, annoying, a boozer, and short.


Spurs fucking suck balls.
Your threads always deliver, though.

[DAF86]

Maybe something about Duncan?

[weebo]

Ratliff?

[Crazymaddopeyo]

Dick J isn't worth 14 mil.
RMJ Jr wants out....
Tony Parker is a lil bitch.
Pop will pay Matt Bonner David Robinson money.
Manu wants out and is pissed because he can't get an extension.
Ian can't play because Pop doesn't want to pay to keep him.
Popovich is senile and can't coach a girlscout team.
McDice can barely walk.
Blair wants to win the MVP of a got damn rookie game so he can get respect.
Peter Holt drinks to much.
Finley and Bogans should be waived immediately.
George Hill is naked on facebook/myspace/twitter and the wnba.com....

Did I forget anyone?

Spurs fucking suck balls.

Ok, well stop posting here and go pick another team to like and when they start to not play well, turn around and hate them.

[SequSpur]

Ok, well stop posting here and go pick another team to like and when they start to not play well, turn around and hate them.

I never said I hate them..I believe I pretty much stated the case for each player and their contribution to team chemistry.

I believe you have offered nothing to this conversation and probably should refrain from posting until you can devote some time and thought to the truthfulness of the situation.

:toast

[Obstructed_View]

I believe you have offered nothing to this conversation

Irony from the little guy. :toast

[Baseline]

Keep it up, Seq. Great stuff.

We should've known Pop was loosing it when he showed up looking like CIA Santa Claus last year, white beard and all. Buzz cut was long gone. Dude turned into Burl Ives.

[Dex]

http://floortwo.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/bill-nye.jpg

[murpjf88]

Welcome back Segu, always good for a laugh.

[Sigz]

Pink that motherfucker. We busy raising the bar, we don't need little midgets who can't quite reach the urinals running around pissing on everyone!

[Crazymaddopeyo]

I believe you have offered nothing to this conversation and probably should refrain from posting until you can devote some time and thought to the truthfulness of the situation.

:toast


Hmm your opinions are now truthfulness? Right, I really need to contribute to that conversation.

[Dex]

:lmao :lmao :lmao

[The_Worlds_finest]

Again i agree with Sequ HOWEVER, mavs trade doesnt scare me but a Amare to cavs will maybe get them over the hump

[Mel_13]

Gotta love the merge and the new thread title.:lmao

[SequSpur]

I think it's fuckin stupid and typical bullshit... can't stand the truth huh?

let's trade our best shooter because he doesn't play defense....yeah...tim duncan has given up more dunks in the last 2 weeks than a 10 year career and it's rmj jr's fault....

[BanditHiro]

Again i agree with Sequ HOWEVER, mavs trade doesnt scare me but a Amare to cavs will maybe get them over the hump

as long as the oppression of the lakers does not return

[SequSpur]

Mavs trade for 27 ppg and 18 rpg....

Spurs do nothing.


:pctoss

[poop]

Welcome back Segu, always good for a laugh.

its funny, this guy posts NOTHING but negative pure troll stuff and he gets 'aw hes so funny' and seems to be untouchable by mods whilst I and others get alot of undeserved shit from people and get pinked for posting far less crap that 'sequspur' does.

[SequSpur]

its funny, this guy posts NOTHING but negative pure troll stuff and he gets 'aw hes so funny' and seems to be untouchable by mods whilst I and others get alot of undeserved shit from people and get pinked for posting far less crap that 'sequspur' does.

:sleep

[ElNono]

:blah

[SpurNation]

I'd trade Manu to get Iguodala, but I'm not so sure for Butler.

I hope that's still possible although I'm not sure Iggy himself would be a difference maker for this year.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

rofl

sequ of the corn

[Spurtacus]

Ok, well stop posting here and go pick another team to like and when they start to not play well, turn around and hate them.

You obviously don't know Sequ.

[MaNu4Tres]

Sequ's Whining Thread

This was long overdue.

Thank you

[SequSpur]

Yep. the Spurs aren't going to complete a trade that can get them over the hump. This season is in the toilet. Parker is hurt, Jefferson is still new, I am not sure what Manu is. This team has no big. Bonner is still getting more touches than Lebron James.

The eyes are with the beholder.... Popovich.

Don't get rid of your assets to please a 4 time ring wearin has been. It's time for him to be the GM and let someone else coach this team.

Keep RMJr.

[benefactor]

Whining thread merge.

[honestfool84]

whining thread merge.

+1

[koriwhat]

damn do i hate your thread making but i still come in here because i never check who starts these threads... maybe i should though from here on out.

[dbreiden83080]

Is it possible to get all that whining in one thread?? :lol

[dbestpro]

Pop is a soda that has lost its fizz.

[mexicanjunior]

Your threads are funny...

[cheney212]

lol-"4 time ring wearing has been"

[Obstructed_View]

In before the merge. Free post!

[SequSpur]

watch a fucking game..this team is going nowhere...

matt bonner? bogans? give me a fuckin break...

[Bender]

I didn't watch the game. but I did turn it on in the middle of the 3rd... we had a nice lead. Then a few minutes later the lead was completely gone... so I lost interest.

[easy7]

This the same old story, song and dance with the Spurs. If games were only 3 quarters they would be in first place.

[UnWantedTheory]

Eh, we won.

[SequSpur]

lottery bound....

[SequSpur]

Didn't Kobe, make 5 buzz beaters this year? They clearly are the a shitty team, because if Kobe missed those 5 buzz beaters the Lakers would be only have a 2 game lead over Denver.

What is the point of your thread, the Spurs won.

huh? you're losing me boy.

[Sean Cagney]

watch a fucking game..this team is going nowhere...

matt bonner? bogans? give me a fuckin break...

I know right, those fukkin bums still starting after the break makes me sick to my DAMN STOMACH! YOU GOTTA LITERALLY BE KIDDING ME? Pop is and IDIOT, period.

[SequSpur]

don't ever forget....

Todd Tango and the rest of Dusty's moderators that post here can suck on my balls....

I'm just saying...

Spurstalk rules ass and it's the best thing since my empty crown royal glass...

We live for another day....

Go Spurs Go....

:toast

[lennyalderette]

god im glad we won, but is it coincidence that pop had blair at center while jefferson was at PF during the time we got our asses kicked? and when timmy and dice or blair and dice were out together the pounding stopped!! god daM pop get it through stubborn ass head you old fart you suck at small ball end of story everyones tired of your shit

[SequSpur]

god im glad we won, but is it coincidence that pop had blair at center while jefferson was at PF during the time we got our asses kicked? and when timmy and dice or blair and dice were out together the pounding stopped!! god daM pop get it through stubborn ass head you old fart you suck at small ball end of story everyones tired of your shit

Dude....

you need to join my fan club.

Fuck Pop
Po box 762084
San Antonio, tX

[SouthTexasRancher]

don't ever forget....

Todd Tango and the rest of Dusty's moderators that post here can suck on my balls....

I'm just saying...

Spurstalk rules ass and it's the best thing since my empty crown royal glass...

We live for another day....

Go Spurs Go....

:toast


Damn, I bet MSNBC's goofy Chris Matthews got another thrill up his leg with that post.

Sequ is still a kickass poster. All that love that comes forth for all to feel...:drunk

[Sean Cagney]

god im glad we won, but is it coincidence that pop had blair at center while jefferson was at PF during the time we got our asses kicked? and when timmy and dice or blair and dice were out together the pounding stopped!! god daM pop get it through stubborn ass head you old fart you suck at small ball end of story everyones tired of your shitPops an idiot man, I swear he is just f in stupid alot of times nowadays. He used to have it, now he just is clueless. Hell we need PJ back, beginning to think he had more to do with the runs than POP at times.
Dude....

you need to join my fan club.

Fuck Pop
Po box 762084
San Antonio, tXI joined..... Count me in too.

[JustinJDW]

Wow, I have never seen such ungrateful fans in my life.

The San Antonio Spurs have kicked ass for the past ten years, with numerous Championships, Playoff Appearances and 50+ Win Seasons. Then, when the Spurs finally struggle a little bit in a Season, you guys bitch and complain about everything! "Fire Pop!" "Trade Tony!" "Trade RJ!" "Blah blah blah!"

Spurs fans on SpursTalk are the only fans I see complain and whine after every loss. LITERALLY! AFTER EVERY FUCKING LOSS! YOU GUYS COMPLAIN! Its disgusting and pathetic.

Even when the Spurs win like tonight, you guys are still bitching and moaning about something. Jesus fucking Christ.

[Manudo Flopo]

suck ass bitches

[Rogue]

don't infuriate the shrew or you would drive her cruel, which wouldn't be good.

[Fpoonsie]

Pop is and IDIOT, period.


Pops an idiot man, ...

Irony, thy name is Cagney.

[Fpoonsie]

Just figured I'd make it easier for him to find once the big hand makes it back to 12...