How many LA Laker wins without Kolby will it take?

[Cant_Be_Faded]

How many LA Laker wins without Kobe will it take to prove to the fanbase that Kobe is not necessary for them to win games?

I want a number.


crofl pinky and ankles

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Before Pau they needed him but not now.

how insightful

[Chieflion]

Until ESPN says so.

[cobbler]

Spoken like true brilliance! The Lakers tied with 4:00 left in the game to the 3rd worst team in the league. Ohhh and Pau "the real Laker MVP" and Mr. get me touches at 4 for 14. :toast

[Cant_Be_Faded]

LOL at the GOAT taking pride on winning a championship with a team which is already a championship contender without him.

LOL at the GOAT taking pride on winning a championship with a team which is already a championship contender without him.

[picc84]

Its not Kobe that was making the team shit. It was Bynum.

Him starting takes everyone out of the rhythm they get in when its LO and Pau.

[cobbler]

Obsession over our player. How sweet it is!!!!

[23LeBronJames23]

Spoken like true brilliance! The Lakers tied with 4:00 left in the game to the 3rd worst team in the league. Ohhh and Pau "the real Laker MVP" and Mr. get me touches at 4 for 14. :toast

atleast they're playing like a team now

[Cant_Be_Faded]

I could understand if the Lakers made mistakes like they used to the handful of games where Kobe was out.

But they dominant night in and night out now.
It's never a question they're going to win.

[ClippersDynasty]

Until ESPN says so.

lol you having your pants all in a bunch over espn covering one of the most popular athletes on the most popular team in his sport.

[picc84]

How MANY WILL IT TAKE?

[Chieflion]

lol you having your pants all in a bunch over espn covering one of the most popular athletes on the most popular team in his sport.
Tell me where I got my pants in a bunch. Find me a quote. Thank you.

[ClippersDynasty]

Tell me where I got my pants in a bunch. Find me a quote. Thank you.

Both the posts I've seen from you are whining about ESPN covering Kobe. The other was in a thread about his ankle. Get over it, nobody gives a shit about San Antonio.

[Chieflion]

Both the posts I've seen from you are whining about ESPN covering Kobe. The other was in a thread about his ankle. Get over it, nobody gives a shit about San Antonio.
Get over it. Most casual fans believe what ESPN says. Is it not true that ESPN will give you information on when Kobe is going to return? You mad?

[cobbler]

atleast they're playing like a team now

Anybody who thinks this Laker team is better without Kobe is a complete moron. We all know Kobe does too much. We all know the role players dont step up on a consistent basis. We all know that the Lakers are at their very best and unbeatable when they meet somewhere in the middle. Well, the non haters that know basketball that is...

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Holy crap

the Lakers are doing the whole "Dominate the last four minutes" gameplan they've been sticking to the last three years against one of the hotter teams in the West tonight.

They've totally dictated every play against a solid Golden State team.

In every way.

rofl shitty dunk contender

[cobbler]

friggen shannon brown the ballhog

[Chieflion]

Looks like I got a few more fan trolls. Shit is working well.

[cobbler]

Tell me where I got my pants in a bunch. Find me a quote. Thank you.

You are correct sir.... I think making multiple posts in one day about ESPN and Kobe would not justify a pants in the bunch jab. More like panties!

[Chieflion]

You are correct sir.... I think making multiple posts in one day about ESPN and Kobe would not justify a pants in the bunch jab. More like panties!
See above for my reply. Fan troll.

[Chieflion]

4-0. The record speaks for itself.

[23LeBronJames23]

Anybody who thinks this Laker team is better without Kobe is a complete moron. We all know Kobe does too much. We all know the role players dont step up on a consistent basis. We all know that the Lakers are at their very best and unbeatable when they meet somewhere in the middle. Well, the non haters that know basketball that is...

I never said that Lakers are better without kobe although it might be true. Im just saying that their is alot of teamwork going on right now.

[mavsfan1000]

I agree. Kobe has had some of the most talented teams around him in nba history. The years he didn't have as much talent and with a weaker coach, we know what happened. ;)

[cobbler]

friggen MVP Pau 14 shots for 14 pts... Pass the ball!!!

[bostonguy]

The Lakers are a playoff team without Kobe at best. They are no where near a championship team without him. I remember people saying the same exact thing in the 2000-2001 season.

[cobbler]

4-0. The record speaks for itself.

Yes it does. We have a great team. Thank You.

[bostonguy]

Celts possibly getting a Kobeless Laker team Thursday. I have no expectations for that game. We had our fun with LA in 2008 and they have made us their senorita ever since.

[Chieflion]

Yes it does. We have a great team. Thank You.
Of course Los Angeles has a great team, fan troll.

[bostonguy]

What does scare me is when Kobe returns, this team is going to click. That scares the shit out of me. Man I wish I didn't invest so much money on the Cavs. When the Lakers are at their best, good luck taking them down. :bang:bang

[Allanon]

There is a Kobe All the Time thread stickied at the top of the NBA forum.
http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144287&page=29

Please use this thread to discuss random Kobe musings so we don't have 10 new Kobe threads a day.

Thankyou,

[RedsLakers24]

yeah who needs kobe, we have shannon brown who will score 27 every single game

[ClippersDynasty]

Holy crap

the Lakers are doing the whole "Dominate the last four minutes" gameplan they've been sticking to the last three years against one of the hotter teams in the West tonight.

They've totally dictated every play against a solid Golden State team.

In every way.

rofl shitty dunk contender

:lmao

lol trying really hard to get your point across and failing to be funny.

[RedsLakers24]

FACT: Shannon Brown outscored Wade, Nowitzki, Durant, Pierce, David Lee, Gerald Wallace, and Rudy Gay.

[JamStone]

16 in the post season.

[cobbler]

16 in the post season.

Touchee! :toast:toast:toast

[Ode to Triple Ocho]

Cool story. Bulls won 55 without MJ and were a bad call away from the conference finals.

[RedsLakers24]

Cool story. Bulls won 55 without MJ and were a bad call away from the conference finals.

Touchee! :whine

[cobbler]

Cool story. Bulls won 55 without MJ and were a bad call away from the conference finals.

Noooooo! You mean to tell me that really good teams can play contending basketball but their superstar takes them over the top? Noooo!

[mavsfan1000]

Cool story. Bulls won 55 without MJ and were a bad call away from the conference finals.

And they won 72 games with Jordan a couple years later. I suspect they would've done the same if Jordan was playing that year.

[j.dizzle]

LOL shannon was probably mad about the wack ass dunk contest..27 & 10, he definitely manned up when 90% of the team was bricking everything. Btw is it just me or did farmar & sasha play even shittier on purpose cuz the trade deadline is on thursday hahaha...Oh & Luke Walton out indifinitely with "back issues" right before the deadline..Give me a fuckin break, we know none of them wanna get moved to a non contender in a shitty city.

[23LeBronJames23]

friggen MVP Pau 14 shots for 14 pts... Pass the ball!!!

How about vs

Portland 6-14 FG(43%) 13 points 8 rebounds 4 assists

Spurs 8-20 FG(40%) 21 points 19 rebounds 5 blocks 8 assists

Utah 10-15 FG(66%) 22 points 19 rebounds 5 blocks 4 assists

[DAF86]

friggen MVP Pau 14 shots for 14 pts... Pass the ball!!!

There's a difference between 14 and 24 shots.

[Ode to Triple Ocho]

And they won 72 games with Jordan a couple years later. I suspect they would've done the same if Jordan was playing that year.



Cool story bro. And the Lakers won 65 games last year despite Kobe breaking his finger the Lakers missing their starting center for half the season.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

:lmao

lol trying really hard to get your point across and failing to be funny.

ironic that you post a laughing my ass off smiley


dude kobe needs like four franchise players on his team to win championships without shaq


this team is so stacked its sickening

[Cant_Be_Faded]

again noone has answered the OP


what's the number?

how many wins will it take?

[DAF86]

again noone has answered the OP


what's the number?

how many wins will it take?


16 in the post season.

[DAF86]

I think nobody honestly bealives that the Lakers are better without Kobe but what I want LA fans to recognize is that their team is a whole lot better without somebody taking 25+ shots in a game.

[Quit Hatin']

as i said before, we should trade his ass before the trade deadline for a couple 2nd round picks.(sarcasm)

[Cant_Be_Faded]

and kobe's whole reasoning for losing to celtics by seventy points is that bynum was not there

:pctoss

how many?

[Ode to Triple Ocho]

I think nobody honestly bealives that the Lakers are better without Kobe but what I want LA fans to recognize is that their team is a whole lot better without somebody taking 25+ shots in a game.

Cool story brah. 27 shots per game in the 2009 Finals. Net Result = Rang

[DAF86]

Cool story brah. 27 shots per game in the 2009 Finals. Net Result = Rang

So?

That doesn't change the fact that the Lakers are a better team when they move the ball around and get all the talented players they have involved.

[Ode to Triple Ocho]

So?

That doesn't change the fact that the Lakers are a better team when they move the ball around and get all the talented players they have involved.


Your post doesn't change the fact that Kobe took 25+ shots per game in the finals and still moved the ball around and got all the players involved. And won a championship.

1 of 4 championships and soon to be 5. 6 next year when San Antonio is swimming in lottery balls. :downspin:

Cool story, though.

[timvp]

The Lakers would make it to the Finals without Kobe.

[Ode to Triple Ocho]

The Lakers would make it to the Finals without Kobe.

Only a lesser basketball mind would believe that.

[timvp]

Only a lesser basketball mind would believe that.

Laker Fan doesn't like compliments that don't include Kobe.

[RsxPiimp]

4 regular season wins is your measuring stick? I mean seriously, you have over 21k posts and thats the best logic you have in mind? Good lord.

[Ode to Triple Ocho]

Laker Fan doesn't like compliments that don't include Kobe.

Wasn't a compliment. Just a lie.

[TheMACHINE]

Since Shanon Brown has been a Laker, the team has been winning. We won the championship due to his aquisition. We lost to Boston in 2008 cuz there was no Shanon Brown on the team.

Therefore, Shanon Brown is the MVP for the last two years. Gasol couldnt win a title before Brown came and the Lakers are 4-0 without Kobe because Brown is subbing for kb24.

Thus, Shanon is GOAT.

[timvp]

Wasn't a compliment.

Wasn't?

[HarlemHeat37]

Derek Fisher's record as a Laker is now: 540-211..
Kobe's record without Fisher is: 112-111..

[Ode to Triple Ocho]

Wasn't?

Obviously.


Derek Fisher's record as a Laker is now: 540-211..
Kobe's record without Fisher is: 112-111..

Both can't win a championship without Gary Vitti.

[namlook]

How many LA Laker wins without Kobe will it take to prove to the fanbase that Kobe is not necessary for them to win games?



Beating the Warriors tonight was far from impressive. The Lakers almost lost at home to a team that was 4-22 on the road. The Lakers have over-achieved the past few games. When a star player goes down teams often play above their means in the short term. Opposing teams also let down when they see the star player is out. All of that comes back down to earth over time. If Kobe were to be out long term you would see the losses piling up.

[Pero]

Well this is what happens when you get a second franchise player for peanuts in a trade.

[cobbler]

Well this is what happens when you get a second franchise player for peanuts in a trade.

You know the economy cannot be all that bad when 9 million dollars, a talented young center, a gun waving point guard, and several draft picks are considered peanuts.

[Pero]

You know the economy cannot be all that bad when 9 million dollars, a talented young center, a gun waving point guard, and several draft picks are considered peanuts.

Those are peanuts when you get them for a franchise player like Gasol.

[wanggi]

As I know, Lakers would win more games without Rapist(MSP) than with Rapist.

MSP = Most Selfish Player

Kobe-less = Happy teammates

[Pero]

As I know, Lakers would win more games without Rapist(MSP) than with Rapist.

MSP = Most Selfish Player

Kobe-less = Happy teammates

They wouldn't be able to win the championship without him though.

[wanggi]

They wouldn't be able to win the championship without him though.

hard to say so:toast

[urunobili]

lol Kome all day all the time thread is not enough :lmao

[MiamiHeat]

They wouldn't be able to win the championship without him though.

Kobe takes up 23? million salary on the Lakers, highest paid player on the team right?

so if no kobe, then replace those 23 million with other players, how about 5 good role players each making around 4 million

fill out the bench.


you can't just say "without kobe they can't win a title" because kobe is eating up a huge chunk of their salary cap roster. you gotta replace that cash with players

and then i will say they can win without him.

Phil Jackson coached team, with all of that talent, and extra 23 mil in cap space to fill out the bench?

[Pero]

Kobe takes up 23? million salary on the Lakers, highest paid player on the team right?

so if no kobe, then replace those 23 million with other players, how about 5 good role players each making around 4 million


I meant just without Kobe, not if he was replaced by someone else in which case I agree that they could win the championship.

[picc84]

If not for KoME, we would have swept the Nuggets and Magic last year and destroyed the Celtics in 6. :lmao

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Lakerfan:

give me a number
is it ten? Thirteen? infinity?

[picc84]

4. That seems fair enough.

[TheMACHINE]

Kobe should just retire. Based on these 4 games...its a fact that Kobe sucks.