To protect and serve?

[Frenzy]

The SAPD....serve who exactly? I have had my share of encounters with the Police. None of these experiences faired well. Most were traffic tickets that were violations for speeding..not much(usually like 8-11 miles over the limit) Most were pompous pricks. I was never cut a break...not that I expected any. But speeding is understandable. But what's with the profiling? One encounter when I was 17 I was out walking down around my neighborhood. I forget why I was walking. So as I walk down the street I see a cop drive down the opposite way I was going and I glance back and sure enough the cop turns around. Cop flashes his lights....like he had too :rolleyes

It was then that I discovered it was a dike...even worse. Cop ask what was I doing why...etc. Gets me on the car to frisk me. Gave me the third degree and after a while let me go. Was this cop bored? But that's just me experience.

What got me kinda upset was what happen to my brother in law. My parents still live in the same house from where I moved out the neighborhood is not that great but they refuse to move...guess cause they know everyone or maybe to old. My wife's brother lives across the street from my parents. I went to visit my parents and I see my brother in law standing outside his house. He was on his phone. I get out of my car and yell whats up to him from across the street. He gets off the phone and I turn and see a cop coming down the street. I say in a joking manner "dude get inside the cops" He laughs and just stands there. I walk in the house and as I turn back to get something in my car I see the cop pass his house but break and reverse. Cop gets out the car and starts talking to him. I later got the story. Turns out the cop was saying "what are you doing"..why....etc. He the said he looks suspicious. My brother in law was like wtf.. whatever i'm not doing nothing. Cops says "you getting smart with me.. Come here.." At this point the cop is outside on the street near the fence. My brother in law is like 5 feet from his door. My brother in law says "i'm not doing nothing" and goes in his house...this point all my in laws come out the house...father,mother other brother and aunt. Trying to calm the police from a itchy trigger finger I guess.
More profiling?




What my question to you is....do you think profiling is needed to be a cop? To protect the community. Are there any times you were glad to actually see a cop?

[koriwhat]

cops are nothing but cocksuckers anyhow... i'd say they're useful when you need them but even that's a lie. the only cop that was ever helpful to me was the one that came to my house almost 2 yrs ago after my ex decided she'd claim i beat her... long story short, that cop pulled me to the side and said, "you keep dealing with chicks like these and you either end up getting them pregnant or yourself in jail." dude was cool and gave me the best advice ever!

[angel_luv]

I am sorry you and your family were hassled.

But I don't think you can generalize about all police based on the few you have encontered. There are many good police out there- many whose good deeds go unnoticed because we are all so busy complaining about the bad apples out there.

Profiling is definitely wrong and unfortunately police are not the only ones guilty of it.
I have been guilty of profiling people in my work, though not in regards to race.

When teens come into the restaurant where I work, I tend to assume they are not going to be able to afford to pay what we charge for dinner.
I am not always as courteous to teenage customers at the mall as I am to ones who are older. I know this is because I assume a teen is not going to be a secret shopper or think to report me to a manager if I am short tempered with them.

I can't rightly point out the polices' errors without acknowledging similar ones of my own.

[I. Hustle]

Don't ask me what I think about pigs or Dike pigs

[Pero]

Maybe it's to punish and enslave. :D

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/75/Barricade.jpg

[balli]

It's a job that attracts assholes and further enables their assholish behavior.

I'd be lying if I said I hadn't met some great cops- good people, in it for the right reasons. The vast majority of cops I've met have been incredibly stupid (literally not smart) and/or complete dicks. Why they go out of their way to treat the law abiding public like absolute shit is just beyond me, but it doesn't make them more effective, it makes them and their profession a complete joke. There might be a few good apples here and there, but the majority are trash. Fuck cops.

And people on this site really have a hard time spelling dyke right. It's wrong everytime someone tries to post it.

[I. Hustle]

And people on this site really have a hard time spelling dyke right. It's wrong everytime someone tries to post it.

Yeah eff those dikes.

[balli]

I don't really give a fuck, just sayin, it's always wrong. Always.

[austN Spur]

I'd like to get in on this police bashing. Fuck them all. I was running to the store because i wanted to get back before the commercialls to a game were over. This is a small town, long story short we start arguing bcuz he wanted to know why i was running and my first answer was cuz "i'm in a hurry"

but those Mfers always stop to mess with me when i'm walking somewhere, just cause i'm mexican. 10 years ago asking me where i'm headed to and searching me when i'm in my bill millers uniform.

[timvp]

do you think profiling is needed to be a cop?

Yes. You take away all forms of profiling and police work would be exponentially less productive and effective.

[I. Hustle]

I don't really give a fuck, just sayin, it's always wrong. Always.

Bullshit! You were there!http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=111514&highlight=dyke:lol

[Bigzax]

cops are often courteous to me and i've even been thanked for not resisting arrest. :tu

[ploto]

It is kind of hard to claim profiling of Hispanics is a problem with the majority of SAPD when the majority of cops in the SAPD are Hispanic.

[mavs>spurs2]

I only hate the gay cops and douchebags

[fatsack]

I've always treated them with courtesy and respect and have always received the same back.

[Blake]

It was then that I discovered it was a dike...


cops are nothing but cocksuckers anyhow...

apparently not this one

[mavs>spurs2]

I've always treated them with courtesy and respect and have always received the same back.

that's a 2 way street. it's this way with a lot of cops but many are just straight douchebags no matter how you treat them. still i'm thankful for what the good one's do, it surely outweighs the negatives of having some jerks running around.

[florige]

I've always treated them with courtesy and respect and have always received the same back.



^^This^^ If you guys go running off at the mouth to police how do you expect them to react? If you don't respect the officer at least respect the uniform. There are some pricks out there no doubt, but even before I became a police officer myself I never had any negative encounters with the police. I remember one time me and my buddy were racing these girls we had just met on a residential street at 9pm. The speed limit was 35 and I know he had to have been doing 70-80. Well my buddy was driving my car and he didn't have a license. Didn't know until the officer stopped us. Well we were respectful and told him we were sorry. Dude didn't even give us a warning he just said not to do it again. He even joked around with us because the girls were at the corner of the street waiting for us and he said something to the effect of "man they must really like you guys because they are waiting for you" That officer was well within his rights to impound my car and take us both in. But he didn't even give us a warning. So I reinterate my point, you go off talking shit to officers you can expect to be hastled. I can't tell you how many times I have saved my buddy's ass because a officer will pull him over and this dumbass has to start running off at the mouth. Cop pulled him over for a tag light being out and he starts yapping off, "damn dude you are pulling me over for that?" I am like dude will stfu. I had to show the officer y badge just so they wouldn't haul that idiot off to jail.

[The Franchise]

I think it's best to judge each officer you meet individualy, because you can encounter one asshole, and it ruins it for every other cop that comes along. I have found an effective way to put the bad ones in there place. Turn on your cellphone recorder, let them know you're recording the entire encounter, and if he/she has already said some negative comments to you, lay into their ass about their superhuman level of incompetence. When they know you have evidence of them behaving in a negative fashion, they will take almost any abuse that you throw at them. :lol

[koriwhat]

^^This^^ If you guys go running off at the mouth to police how do you expect them to react? If you don't respect the officer at least respect the uniform. There are some pricks out there no doubt, but even before I became a police officer myself I never had any negative encounters with the police. I remember one time me and my buddy were racing these girls we had just met on a residential street at 9pm. The speed limit was 35 and I know he had to have been doing 70-80. Well my buddy was driving my car and he didn't have a license. Didn't know until the officer stopped us. Well we were respectful and told him we were sorry. Dude didn't even give us a warning he just said not to do it again. He even joked around with us because the girls were at the corner of the street waiting for us and he said something to the effect of "man they must really like you guys because they are waiting for you" That officer was well within his rights to impound my car and take us both in. But he didn't even give us a warning. So I reinterate my point, you go off talking shit to officers you can expect to be hastled. I can't tell you how many times I have saved my buddy's ass because a officer will pull him over and this dumbass has to start running off at the mouth. Cop pulled him over for a tag light being out and he starts yapping off, "damn dude you are pulling me over for that?" I am like dude will stfu. I had to show the officer y badge just so they wouldn't haul that idiot off to jail.

it's one thing to treat them with respect and another to be pulled over for nothing, hassled and treated like dirt.

i've met 1 cop i have respect for in my life and 1 cop only who helped me see the light.

as for the rest of them... :oink:flipoff

[florige]

it's one thing to treat them with respect and another to be pulled over for nothing, hassled and treated like dirt.

i've met 1 cop i have respect for in my life and 1 cop only who helped me see the light.

as for the rest of them... :oink:flipoff



The public has a right to ask what they are being pulled over or stopped for. It just how you come off asking. At least with me anyway. I can't speak for you guys maybe SAPD just has a force full of pricks I don't know. But I do know for a fact that my buddy stays getting into it with the police because he finds it necessary to get smart/indignant with them. Then he says all cops are assholes.

[koriwhat]

The public has a right to ask what they are being pulled over or stopped for. It just how you come off asking. At least with me anyway. I can't speak for you guys maybe SAPD just has a force full of pricks I don't know. But I do know for a fact that my buddy stays getting into it with the police because he finds it necessary to get smart/indignant with them. Then he says all cops are assholes.

i don't talk to cops... if they pull me over, question me, whatever then i just sit there with a blank stare cause i know it ain't worth the hassle to shit on them because the end result is they win all the time.

i don't like cops nor do i respect them but i do understand their position in society is regarded higher than mine so i just sit back and let them get all red in the face until they finally let me go on my merry way. it is what it is and it's a sad state of fact but it could be worse like it is in many other countries, states, cities, etc.

[EricB]

It is kind of hard to claim profiling of Hispanics is a problem with the majority of SAPD when the majority of cops in the SAPD are Hispanic.


Good god I agree....

[Frenzy]

Dude didn't even give us a warning he just said not to do it again. ....That officer was well within his rights to impound my car and take us both in. .

Didn't want to cause he was in a rush to get some donuts. :lol




ok i'm joking. Yes some cops are decent....But I never met one. Seems like it's gonna get harder to find one too. You're cop? Dude do they not make yall stay in shape? I Seen some real cop blobs.

[florige]

Didn't want to cause he was in a rush to get some donuts. :lol




ok i'm joking. Yes some cops are decent....But I never met one. Seems like it's gonna get harder to find one too. You're cop? Dude do they not make yall stay in shape? I Seen some real cop blobs.



Yeah I am Baltimore City. I know there are some in my department who are kinda out of shape. But no blobs or anything. Some of the Narcotics and Homicide decs are though. I can't understand why you guys get hassled by the police so much if you are getting pulled over for no reason? Even with my department, if we get too many complaints on the same crap over and over again, we will hear it from our supervisors.

[to21]

It is kind of hard to claim profiling of Hispanics is a problem with the majority of SAPD when the majority of cops in the SAPD are Hispanic.The last time I saw the data (I'll admit it was a couple of years ago) it was something like 900+ White males to 800+ Hispanic males. IMO, it doesn't matter either way.

[ploto]

The last time I saw the data (I'll admit it was a couple of years ago) it was something like 900+ White males to 800+ Hispanic males. IMO, it doesn't matter either way.


According to this data from 2008:

White male/female 912/73 45.5%

Hispanic male/female 945/100 48.2%

African American male/female 106/12 5.5%

http://www.ci.sat.tx.us/SAPD/pdf/sapd_07_2008.pdf

If you look closely, you will also see that the cadets and probationary officers include twice as many Hispanics as whites, so the SAPD is becoming more and more Hispanic. Of course, that does not mean that a Hispanic might not profile his own race.

[I. Hustle]

Here is the deal. People who are not "hispanic" can't understand a hispanic cop profiling another hispanic but in reality they could be the worse ones. They will do it out of jealousy depending where you live or are from or out of thinking they are better than you. You can't give a Mexican too much authority or they go crazy.

[Ginofan]

Jeez louise where are y'all meeting these cops? I've probably been pulled over maybe 6 times in my life and never has a cop been a prick to me. I know if I was speeding and breaking the law I deserved that ticket and was always greatful for a warning. I mean just be nice to them (like a normal human being should be anyway) and they should be nice right back to you. They are just doing their job.

Though there was this one time I did get pulled over by a Constable in Wilson county and that guy WAS a prick. No "Hello" or a greeting of any kind, just a terse "I need your license and registration" right off the bat, he didn't even tell me why he pulled me over or ask me why I did what I did. (For the record I passed him while he had someone else pulled over on the shoulder and I didn't slow down or move over while passing him, though I wasn't speeding. This was when they first started pushing that "Move over or slow down to emergency vehicles" thing.) But I wouldn't label every Constable a prick just because of my experience.

[CuckingFunt]

And people on this site really have a hard time spelling dyke right. It's wrong everytime someone tries to post it.

Learn to embrace the humor in it. Dike cop = levee in uniform. Hilarious visual, really.

[CuckingFunt]

i don't talk to cops... if they pull me over, question me, whatever then i just sit there with a blank stare cause i know it ain't worth the hassle to shit on them because the end result is they win all the time.

When people pull the passive aggressive silent bullshit with me, it doesn't necessarily bring out my best side. Might have a lot to do with your interactions with police.

I think some cops are just jerks and I have MAJOR problems with the punishment model as structured in this country, so I'm the last person to go out of my way to defend their actions, but it's really not that hard to avoid such unpleasantness.

[cornbread]

SA cops are nothing compared to female cops in Castle Hills.

When I was in high school, I was playing basketball with my friend in his driveway while his little sister (who was in fifth grade) played with sidewalk chalk on the curb. This notorious female Castle Hills cop pulls up, sees my friend's sister and accuses of her vandalizing the curb.

Then she called for back up. I'm not kidding. She called for back up because a fifth grade girl was playing with sidewalk chalk in front of her own house.

[Frenzy]

SA cops are nothing compared to female cops in Castle Hills.

When I was in high school, I was playing basketball with my friend in his driveway while his little sister (who was in fifth grade) played with sidewalk chalk on the curb. This notorious female Castle Hills cop pulls up, sees my friend's sister and accuses of her vandalizing the curb.

Then she called for back up. I'm not kidding. She called for back up because a fifth grade girl was playing with sidewalk chalk in front of her own house.

was she writing "fuck cops" on the side walk? The 5th graders can be nuts.

[to21]

According to this data from 2008:

White male/female 912/73 45.5%

Hispanic male/female 945/100 48.2%

African American male/female 106/12 5.5%

http://www.ci.sat.tx.us/SAPD/pdf/sapd_07_2008.pdf

If you look closely, you will also see that the cadets and probationary officers include twice as many Hispanics as whites, so the SAPD is becoming more and more Hispanic. Of course, that does not mean that a Hispanic might not profile his own race.Yeah that data might be more current than the one I saw. My point was your last statement.

[CosmicCowboy]

Y'all would be surprised how far you can get with "yes sir" and "no sir". I got pulled over in high school in my jeep and had a fifth of tequila under the drivers seat and a kilo of weed under the passenger seat. They found the (unopened) tequila and we went through the whole "pour it out and apologize and look remorseful" and they quit looking after that and didn't find the kilo.

[Soul_Patch]

Only time i had problems with cops was when i lived in Schertz (schertz PD) and was 17-18. I would get pulled over just about daily...almost always find a reason to give me a ticket. Once was for "excessive lane changes" They almost always pulled me out of my car to search for drugs...although i never had any...

Since then, never really had an issue.

[SAGambler]

I've always treated them with courtesy and respect and have always received the same back.

That's the secret.

[Soul_Patch]

Y'all would be surprised how far you can get with "yes sir" and "no sir". I got pulled over in high school in my jeep and had a fifth of tequila under the drivers seat and a kilo of weed under the passenger seat. They found the (unopened) tequila and we went through the whole "pour it out and apologize and look remorseful" and they quit looking after that and didn't find the kilo.

Who measures weed in kilos? not that i doubt you, i just have never heard of someone having a kilo of pot.

Sure, there are grams, ounces, lbs...but kilos? i thought that was for Cocaine....haha.

[to21]

I always talk to the law with respect. It has no bearing to the assholes that hide behind a badge.

Hell the only reason I use "Yes Sir" or "No Sir" is to avoid a beatdown. In fact, I've learned that honesty IS the best when dealing with the Police.

[mrsmaalox]

Who measures weed in kilos? not that i doubt you, i just have never heard of someone having a kilo of pot.

Sure, there are grams, ounces, lbs...but kilos? i thought that was for Cocaine....haha.

I think most of law enforcement does. Those compressed bricks of pot that they bust coming from south of the border, aren't those kilos?

[CosmicCowboy]

Who measures weed in kilos? not that i doubt you, i just have never heard of someone having a kilo of pot.

Sure, there are grams, ounces, lbs...but kilos? i thought that was for Cocaine....haha.

Well, I've been out of the game for a long time but ounces and pounds were retail units. Straight out of Mexico they were compressed kilo blocks that typically were wrapped in brown paper. The kilos were then "fluffed" and repackaged into retail sizes.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

I think it just matters where it originates. Metric system, anyone?

"Royales with cheese"

[koriwhat]

a kilo is a shit ton to hide under 1 seat in a car.... hmm.... that's a lot of nasty ass mexican press!

[CosmicCowboy]

a kilo is a shit ton to hide under 1 seat in a car.... hmm.... that's a lot of nasty ass mexican press!

A key is not THAT much...just 2.2 pounds. They were baled pretty tight. They were usually about 8" wide, 12" long and 4" deep.