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badfish22
02-18-2010, 01:16 AM
STEIN_LINE_HQ Trade-deadline alert just filed to ESPN.com: Rockets have agreement in principal with Sacramento to acquire Kevin Marti

MiamiHeat
02-18-2010, 01:18 AM
interesting

badfish22
02-18-2010, 01:18 AM
STEIN_LINE_HQ
Deal could expand before Thursday's 3 p.m. deadline into a three-way trade scenario that lands Tracy McGrady in New York with Knicks

dirk4mvp
02-18-2010, 01:18 AM
lol injury prone 2 guards

badfish22
02-18-2010, 01:18 AM
craziest trade deadline in a while

Pistons < Spurs
02-18-2010, 01:19 AM
STEIN_LINE_HQ

Although full trade details not yet known, one league source told ESPN.com that T-Mac will end up with Kings or Knicks by time deadline hits

Kobe Molested Me
02-18-2010, 01:21 AM
Nooooo!! God damnit!!

Delonte West
02-18-2010, 01:22 AM
Nooooo!! God damnit!!

:lmao

Rogue
02-18-2010, 01:23 AM
lol injury prone 2 guards
cosigned son. It's nothing serious for Rockets though as they're already well immune to injury prone players.

timvp
02-18-2010, 01:23 AM
Damn. Kevin Martin to the Rockets would be a really good move. He could add the needed scoring punch and Ariza can move to a move natural complementary role.

Hopefully this falls through. I don't want Martin on the Rockets.

Chieflion
02-18-2010, 01:23 AM
CROFL! Rockets just doing the Kings a favor. Nothing to see here. Removing Martin allows Evans to become the top player he is supposed to be.

mavsfan1000
02-18-2010, 01:24 AM
Dang it.

Rogue
02-18-2010, 01:26 AM
Damn. Kevin Martin to the Rockets would be a really good move. He could add the needed scoring punch and Ariza can move to a move natural complementary role.

Hopefully this falls through. I don't want Martin on the Rockets.
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yllq7qv (http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yllq7qv)

Or

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ygq4uk4

badfish22
02-18-2010, 01:27 AM
WojYahooNBA

Houston in advanced talks with Kings for T-Mac, Laundry and Dorsey for Kevin Martin, Kenny Thomas, Armstrong and Rodriguez, sources tell Y

timvp
02-18-2010, 01:29 AM
Wait, the Rockets are losing Landry?

Kobe Molested Me
02-18-2010, 01:30 AM
What the fuck!!! Fuck you d morey, how can you trade away landry

HarlemHeat37
02-18-2010, 01:30 AM
LOL giving up Landry for a broken down Martin..

Houston was shitting on the Knicks and Bulls yesterday, Morey had them in a bidding war..I doubt they make an iffy trade like this just a day later..

badfish22
02-18-2010, 01:30 AM
WojYahooNBA

Houston has traded T-Mac for a package including Kevin Martin. Story link to come

done deal

timvp
02-18-2010, 01:30 AM
If the Rockets traded Landry to get Martin, you can ignore my first post in this thread. Landry is the team's best player.

Findog
02-18-2010, 01:31 AM
Rockets are crazy to give up Landry to get Martin.

Ghazi
02-18-2010, 01:31 AM
Absolutely retarded if theyre giving up Landry

duhoh
02-18-2010, 01:31 AM
landry isn't worth kevin martin

timvp
02-18-2010, 01:31 AM
To be fair, Wojo said "laundry" ... so perhaps he meant Yao.

No racist.

Ditty
02-18-2010, 01:32 AM
if rockets let landrey go theres not reason to do this trade might as well go back to that new york trade

mavsfan1000
02-18-2010, 01:32 AM
Rockets are crazy to give up Landry to get Martin.
Yep. It's like they did it to avoid us from getting him. They screwed themselves in the process.

Findog
02-18-2010, 01:32 AM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ys-kingstrade021710&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Holy shit, Landry is in the deal.

badfish22
02-18-2010, 01:33 AM
Along with Martin, the Kings will send Sergio Rodridguez, Hilton Armstrong(notes) and Kenny Thomas(notes) to the Rockets. Joey Dorsey(notes) and Carl Landry(notes) will go to the Kings.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ys-kingstrade021710&prov=yhoo&type=lgns


:lmao

Kobe Molested Me
02-18-2010, 01:33 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4923777

noob cake
02-18-2010, 01:33 AM
Ok, we better get some pick, or include NYK in a three way.

Landry can't be lost in acquiring Martin without 1st round pick or Jordan Hill.

Ditty
02-18-2010, 01:34 AM
kings got better with this trade

Kobe Molested Me
02-18-2010, 01:34 AM
Fuck you d morey!!

Chieflion
02-18-2010, 01:34 AM
Morey probably pulled this deal off nba 2k10.

Findog
02-18-2010, 01:35 AM
http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA

Why does this guy keep referring to him as Carl Laundry?

LakerHater
02-18-2010, 01:35 AM
Rockets Will Acquire Kevin Martin (http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/64815/20100218/rockets_will_acquire_kevin_martin/)

http://www.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/wiretap/photos/2006/Martin_Kevin_sac_091030.jpg Feb 18, 2010 1:21 AM EST

http://basketball.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/wiretap/team/hou_40.gifThe Rockets have an agreement in principal with the Kings to acquire Kevin Martin, according to Marc Stein.
This trade could expand to a three-way deal with the Knicks, sending McGrady to New York.
A league source indicated that McGrady will wind up in Sacramento or New York by Thursday's deadline.
Kenny Thomas, Hilton Armstrong and Sergio Rodriguez will also come to Houston, while McGrady, Carl Landry and Joey Dorsey will be outgoing, according to Yahoo's Adrian Wojnarowski

Lars
02-18-2010, 01:36 AM
Landry :(

Rogue
02-18-2010, 01:36 AM
Wait, the Rockets are losing Landry?
noway, Daryl Morey isn't a moronic piece of dipshit like Donnie Nelson and everyone who has a brain knows Landry is indispensable for Rockets. Trading for Martin ostensibly indicates the Rockets are still hoping to remain as a contender, so there's no reason for them to ship the player who has been their best so far in this season.

Allanon
02-18-2010, 01:37 AM
Morey's done lost his mind.

WTF? Giving up Landry to get mini Mart?

What is it with the Rockets and their proclivity for injury prone players? They're giving one up to pick up another?

Rogue
02-18-2010, 01:39 AM
To be fair, Wojo said "laundry" ... so perhaps he meant Yao.

No racist.
they cannot send out both repugnant contracts of T-Mac's and shit's at once IMHO.

timvp
02-18-2010, 01:39 AM
The Rockets trade their best player for Kevin Martin?

Wow. I know he has bad knees but Landry is a beast. Martin is pretty damn good but it's easier to find a guy who can score and do nothing else. Morey must have been desperate to find a go-to scorer not named Ariza.

Double-Up
02-18-2010, 01:39 AM
http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA

Why does this guy keep referring to him as Carl Laundry?

Because he's retarded. I'm not liking this deal if we have to give up Landry. :depressed

Thompson
02-18-2010, 01:40 AM
Wow, if the Rockets don't get a good draft pick in this deal, Morey will go from hero to zero in record time. :lol

Kai
02-18-2010, 01:40 AM
I really hope there is more to this trade... Landry is my favorite Rocket.

Horry For 3!
02-18-2010, 01:41 AM
Rockets got worse. They traded their only big man who was doing anything... Landry :lol

Findog
02-18-2010, 01:41 AM
Are there financial considerations at play here besides getting rid of TMac's contract? Makes no sense from a basketball perspective to swap Landry for Martin.

mavsfan1000
02-18-2010, 01:41 AM
This thread should be labeled Landry to the Kings. He is the big player in this trade.

Rogue
02-18-2010, 01:43 AM
I'd be glad to see Landry traded though. At least it would help Donnie abdicate from the inglorious fame of being the most moronic GM in NBA.

crc21209
02-18-2010, 01:44 AM
So the Rockets got even smaller? Hmm...

loveforthegame
02-18-2010, 01:44 AM
As a Kings fan I approve. Damn good trade for the Kings. Not sure what the hell the Rockets are thinking.

L.I.T
02-18-2010, 01:45 AM
Bad trade by Rockets.

Great trade for the Kings. Tyreke/Landry/Thompson/Hawes/Casspi is a decent young core moving forward.

PGDynasty24
02-18-2010, 01:45 AM
rockets just got raped!!!!!

Ditty
02-18-2010, 01:46 AM
i dont get one reason why the rockets didnt tank this season get a high draft pick and let tracy contract rot on the bench try to go after a free agent or try to do a spurs type trade for jefferson but they aquire a shooting guard this summer

bad trade by the rockets there not going to win a championship this year i dont know why morey thinks this team can win one with this team hes a idiot

The Third Man
02-18-2010, 01:46 AM
I am hoping moving Landry is part of the three way deal to pick up Jordan Hill from the Knicks.

timvp
02-18-2010, 01:47 AM
Damn it, Rogue. At a glance, I keep thinking Findog got so drunk on his date that he's babbling incomprehensible Engrish.

crc21209
02-18-2010, 01:47 AM
So are the Kings really gonna use T-Mac? :lol

timvp
02-18-2010, 01:48 AM
So the Rockets go from bending over the Knicks for Jordan Hill and a pair of picks to giving away their best player for Kevin Martin?

That's a massive fall from grace in a matter of hours.

Rogue
02-18-2010, 01:49 AM
Damn it, Rogue. At a glance, I keep thinking Findog got so drunk on his date that he's babbling incomprehensible Engrish.

hsxvvd
02-18-2010, 01:50 AM
Why is there still no talk of the Knicks players involved?

BRHornet45
02-18-2010, 01:50 AM
sons this is a great pickup for the Rockets. Martin is just as good as other shooting guards like Kobe Bryant, Joe Johnson, etc.

Martin also has to be thrilled about this as well. Finally getting out of Sacramento and on to a team that can actually make the playoffs.

ClippersDynasty
02-18-2010, 01:50 AM
Landry and Evans with a high pick coming. Kings future looks bright.

crofl Rockets.

Rogue
02-18-2010, 01:51 AM
So the Rockets go from bending over the Knicks for Jordan Hill and a pair of picks to giving away their best player for Kevin Martin?

That's a massive fall from grace in a matter of hours.
Sergio Rodrígue pretty much justifies the trade IMHO.

noob cake
02-18-2010, 01:52 AM
W/e after thinking about this trade for a few minutes

I have decided that it is a great trade. Martin is that legit SG we need. Landry has reached his ceiling; Morey will probably draft a nice PF form this PF loaded draft. 20+ of the first round picks are PF/C's.

We also get Sergio; Morey was pretty high on him (same with every other Spanish guard)

Rogue
02-18-2010, 01:52 AM
Sergio Rodríguez es mejor que Kevin Martín.

Ditty
02-18-2010, 01:53 AM
rogue what do you still think about that 7'6 piece of ****?

Ode to Triple Ocho
02-18-2010, 01:54 AM
hahahahaha.

Houston fans were literally licking Morey's balls last night after the Mcgrady to Knicks was a "done deal" :lmao

HarlemHeat37
02-18-2010, 01:59 AM
Apparently Sacramento might move T-Mac to New York in a separate deal now..

DJ Mbenga
02-18-2010, 02:04 AM
Apparently Sacramento might move T-Mac to New York in a separate deal now..

thats actually good work for them. they need to play their young kids.

The Third Man
02-18-2010, 02:04 AM
I trust Morey. He target Landry and made a trade to get him, after all. Losing Landry is a tough pill to swallow, but shooting is so important for the Rockets and Martin can shoot. In the rare occasions that Ariza, or Battier give us anything from the outside, the Rockets win handily. Martin's one of the best scorers in the league, is young and has a reasonable contract. Adelman's offense is designed for Martin, who thrived with him in the past. The downside is that Martin is injury prone and can't play defense very well. 25 ppg scorers who shoot at a high efficiency aren't players to sniff at though. We'll see if this trade expands.

Delonte West
02-18-2010, 02:05 AM
Rockets are out the playoffs prolly

jesterbobman
02-18-2010, 02:05 AM
K Mart probably has value as he is, after all he's an incredibly efficient offensive player, and has played under Adelman before. Landry is a good player, and in straight up terms, is probably worth it, as he's also a great offensive player. I do think he replicates a bit of what Thompson does for them(though he's better), but as they're unsure of what position Tyreke will be long term(Probably a ball dominant 2), They'd be trying for a Defensive Centre, but with no good one available at a good price, getting Landry is probably the best possible option for them. It also clears a spot in the front court rotation for Jeffries and Hill to get Minutes(If K Thomas goes to NY), and the Knicks can have their cap space.

HarlemHeat37
02-18-2010, 02:06 AM
I trust Morey. He target Landry and made a trade to get him, after all. Losing Landry is a tough pill to swallow, but shooting is so important for the Rockets and Martin can shoot. In the rare occasions that Ariza, or Battier give us anything from the outside, the Rockets win handily. Martin's one of the best scorers in the league, is young and has a reasonable contract. Adelman's offense is designed for Martin, who thrived with him in the past. The downside is that Martin is injury prone and can't play defense very well. 25 ppg scorers who shoot at a high efficiency aren't players to sniff at though. We'll see if this trade expands.

Have you followed Martin this season?..

ShoogarBear
02-18-2010, 02:06 AM
lol this could be the Rockets' Scola deal

Rogue
02-18-2010, 02:08 AM
rogue what do you still think about that 7'6 piece of ****?
It won't be a shock anymore when he's traded for some shittier player(s), considering the recentest trade in which they lost Carl Landry.

Rogue
02-18-2010, 02:09 AM
I trust Morey. He target Landry and made a trade to get him, after all. Losing Landry is a tough pill to swallow, but shooting is so important for the Rockets and Martin can shoot. In the rare occasions that Ariza, or Battier give us anything from the outside, the Rockets win handily. Martin's one of the best scorers in the league, is young and has a reasonable contract. Adelman's offense is designed for Martin, who thrived with him in the past. The downside is that Martin is injury prone and can't play defense very well. 25 ppg scorers who shoot at a high efficiency aren't players to sniff at though. We'll see if this trade expands.
sounds like Rockets fans have to consider the grape sugary regardless of the real taste in their mouths.

loveforthegame
02-18-2010, 02:10 AM
Apparently Sacramento might move T-Mac to New York in a separate deal now..

If the Knicks become the 3rd team then McGrady and Rodriguez would go to NY according to the epsn article.

mystargtr34
02-18-2010, 02:10 AM
lol this could be the Rockets' Scola deal

Except Landry has All-Star potential.

Damn, T-Mac's massive $23M expiring should have been enough to get a Martin level player, especially in today's economy-conscious NBA. But to throw in Landry, thats a huge coup for the Kings.

Ditty
02-18-2010, 02:13 AM
It won't be a shock anymore when he's traded for some shittier player(s), considering the recentest trade in which they lost Carl Landry.

what do you rank that 7"6 piece of **** being one of the best centers of all time and your favorite centers of all time? :lol

024
02-18-2010, 02:14 AM
why would the rockets give up their best player for martin?

Lars
02-18-2010, 02:14 AM
Makes sense for the Rockets to flip Thomas for the NY deal.

Hill would of been behind Landry, Scola and Yao.

jesterbobman
02-18-2010, 02:20 AM
Have you followed Martin this season?..

I know he hasn't been as good this season, and it's a down year. But he had a true shooting % at roughly 60 for the 4 years prior. He gets to the line a ton, and has been a 40% shooter from 3. He's also never going to draw the top defensive assignment, with Battier and Ariza, which hides his biggest weakness, and his contract isn't honerous(From memory, his extension was 55m/5 years). It could be that it's genuine regression, in which case the Rockets are paying for a good scorer who can't defend, which is horrible, or they traded for a great scorer who can fill a gap in the rotation.

(Though I'll admit, most of what I've seen of Martin this year is highlights)

Rogue
02-18-2010, 02:22 AM
what do you rank that 7"6 piece of **** being one of the best centers of all time and your favorite centers of all time? :lol
Shit is already a memory but it's still too early to give him an overall evaluation for his whole career at this point of time IMHO. at least we need to wait to check if his team will win a championship next season with their new acquisitions, because i believe a ring would add pretty much extra value to a player's career than what it's fundamentally worth.

crc21209
02-18-2010, 02:24 AM
WojYahooNBA

Before T-Mac can find himself on a contender, he has to prove he can play --- and he probably won't have the chance.
2 minutes ago from web

No evidence Lakers would have interest, but Danny Ferry kept an eye on T-Mac this season. That said, unclear if either team would want him.
15 minutes ago from web

If T-Mac gets buy out with Kings, he privately hopes to sign with Lakers or Cavaliers for the playoffs, source close to him tells Y!
16 minutes ago from web

This blockbuster can still turn into a three-way deal with New York, but much work to be done before 3 p.m. EST deadline, sources say.
26 minutes ago from web

http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA

The Third Man
02-18-2010, 02:24 AM
sounds like Rockets fans have to consider the grape sugary regardless of the real taste in their mouths.

Jason. Kidd.

Now fuck off.

Reeko_Htown
02-18-2010, 02:25 AM
this trade hurts but it helps.

K-mart has superstar potential and fits exactly in Adelmans offense

I have a feeling Morey has confidence that with this draft we can get a PF. We aren't in the playoff picture anyway.

I will miss Landry but we had to chose between him or Scola. Scolas overall game is better and he have to resign him this summer.

the trade is 50/50. No raping today.

Rogue
02-18-2010, 02:32 AM
Jason. Kidd.

Now fuck off.
old smack that never functions. Mavs didn't lose anything in that trade except a couple dipshits and an overrated skinny dick whose team has only collected 4 wins so far this season. If belittling the Kidd trade can possibly soothe your discomforts, you are welcome to believe it a horrible trade as the recent one Rockets made.

Double-Up
02-18-2010, 02:32 AM
Did TMAC not teach the Rockets and their fans anything? Martin is a ball hogging scrub that's always injured. If you think my prediction of Ariza being a scrub was dead on, wait until you get a load of Martin.

WojYahooNBA

"If T-Mac gets buy out with Kings, he privately hopes to sign with Lakers or Cavaliers for the playoffs, source close to him tells Y!"

ClippersDynasty
02-18-2010, 02:34 AM
WojYahooNBA

Before T-Mac can find himself on a contender, he has to prove he can play --- and he probably won't have the chance.
2 minutes ago from web

No evidence Lakers would have interest, but Danny Ferry kept an eye on T-Mac this season. That said, unclear if either team would want him.
15 minutes ago from web

If T-Mac gets buy out with Kings, he privately hopes to sign with Lakers or Cavaliers for the playoffs, source close to him tells Y!
16 minutes ago from web

This blockbuster can still turn into a three-way deal with New York, but much work to be done before 3 p.m. EST deadline, sources say.
26 minutes ago from web

http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA

Ugh. The Lakers could actually really use him. Start Brown at PG have Famar back him up, have TMac back up Kobe. Stick Fishers corpse on the bench.

Double-Up
02-18-2010, 02:37 AM
Huge difference numbnuts. Mac will be an 8th option, Martin will be your first option.

You stupid fucks would have to be retarded to sign him in the first place...of course nothing surprises me with the city of LA.

http://www.skillafashion.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/sneaker-shoe-store-looted-los-angeles-lakers.jpg

The Third Man
02-18-2010, 02:37 AM
old smack that never functions. Mavs didn't lose anything in that trade except a couple dipshits and an overrated skinny dick whose team has only collected 4 wins so far this season. If belittling the Kidd trade can possibly salve your discomforts, you are welcome to believe it a horrible trade as the recent one Rockets made.

Here's some new smack: you will die alone and unloved, nickel dick.

Anyway, why is picking up a 20 ppg 2 guard for the corpse of McGrady and Carl Landry a horrible trade? Nobody is claiming this puts the Rockets in the upper echelon of anything. It's a calculated risk worth doing. Like the Marion and Butler/Haywood trades. Anyway, carry on rooting for the 2006 champs!

Many PackYao
02-18-2010, 02:38 AM
So the Kings get a chip on shoulder McGrady and a top 5 4th qtr scoring leader in Landry to go along with rising star Evans. Morey has officially gone from hero to zero with this trade. What a shit trade!:bang

Double-Up
02-18-2010, 02:41 AM
So the Kings get a chip on shoulder McGrady and a top 5 4th qtr scoring leader in Landry to go along with rising star Evans. Morey has officially gone from hero to zero with this trade. What a shit trade!:bang

Landry was solid while he was here but I believe he's reached his ceiling already. The bad thing is for a PF he only averages around 5 rebs a game and we all saw how the double teaming affected him the past few weeks. No better time them now to trade him while his stock is high.

noob cake
02-18-2010, 02:44 AM
Landry was solid while he was here but I believe he's reached his ceiling already. The bad thing is for a PF he only averages around 5 rebs a game and we all saw how the double teaming affected him the past few weeks. No better time them now to trade him while his stock is high.

I agree

Yes Landry can't rebound for a PF; he has reached his ceiling and is playing out of his mind.

This trade is basically Kevin Martin + Sergio for Carl Landry

Very fair trade; besides Morey seems to be establishing a relationship with the Kings. This is good for the long run.

baseline bum
02-18-2010, 02:51 AM
What the fuck, Houston!?! I wouldn't trade Landry for Martin straight up, much less give away McGrady's expiring too. LMAO if Sacramento gets the deal done with the Knicks for Hill and the draft picks now.

Rogue
02-18-2010, 02:53 AM
Here's some new smack: you will die alone and unloved, nickel dick.

Anyway, why is picking up a 20 ppg 2 guard for the corpse of McGrady and Carl Landry a horrible trade? Nobody is claiming this puts the Rockets in the upper echelon of anything. It's a calculated risk worth doing. Like the Marion and Butler/Haywood trades. Anyway, carry on rooting for the 2006 champs!
I've given NO muthafukin props/credit to the retarded deal Donnie made a couple days ago. All your crippled arguments are based on the paradox that swapping Landry for Kevin "injury prone" Martin is an ascendant move or a lateral move at the very least, while in reality it's clearly a dubious move the Rockets hadn't made one alike since drafting a piece of tampon in 02.

If the Rockets are intending to tank the season and start immediate rebuilding, they shouldn't have acquired a contract like Kevin Martin's; on the other hand if the Rockets are still considering themselves as a contender in the western conference, they should have kept their best player of the season instead of trading him. It just makes ZERO sense neither way.

Many PackYao
02-18-2010, 02:53 AM
Landry was solid while he was here but I believe he's reached his ceiling already. The bad thing is for a PF he only averages around 5 rebs a game and we all saw how the double teaming affected him the past few weeks. No better time them now to trade him while his stock is high.
Good point! I hope you're right. I hate losing his athletism at the 4 spot though. We don't have much as it is.

The Franchise
02-18-2010, 03:20 AM
lol this could be the Rockets' Scola deal

Not really. I love Landry, and he is a great high energy guy, but I understand why we made this trade. As good as Landry is on offense he is below average on defense. I've watched every Rockets game for the past three seasons, and he gives back just as many points as he scores. He is either to short to stop anyone from scoring around the basket or out of position on defense. His rebounding is also below average. The reason why Scola is starting is because you can expect 15/10 from him just about every night. It's not like Landry is a spring chicken either seeing as Scola (at 30) is only 2 years older than he is.

With Martin and Armstrong coming in we gain a scorer, and a legit 7 foot shotblocker/rebounder to protect the basket. This trade also adds depth to our bench (Battier and Hayes take there rightful positions) which takes pressure off of Ariza, allowing him to move to his natural position at SF where he can be more effective (thank God). Martin can also create his own shot which is something this team desperately needed (we were asking way to much of just Aaron Brooks). Both of these players are younger than Landry as well. I will miss Carl, but from a team standpoint this makes us better. I was like WTF at first until I thought about what this team needs, and this trade actually helps us out in both areas, so I'm all for it.

DAF86
02-18-2010, 03:26 AM
Just when I was starting to think that Morey was a good GM.

sook
02-18-2010, 03:27 AM
Someone please fucking shoot me.

WE TRADE AWAY OUR BEST PLAYER!??!?!?!


We still have the 7"6" piece of shit and we trade away my favorite player on the team?!??!


This can't be happening, Carl Landry was the world to me! :depressed:depressed:(:ihit

sook
02-18-2010, 03:29 AM
Not really. I love Landry, and he is a great high energy guy, but I understand why we made this trade. As good as Landry is on offense he is below average on defense. I've watched every Rockets game for the past three seasons, and he gives back just as many points as he scores. He is either to short to stop anyone from scoring around the basket or out of position on defense. His rebounding is also below average. The reason why Scola is starting is because you can expect 15/10 from him just about every night. It's not like Landry is a spring chicken either seeing as Scola (at 30) is only 2 years older than he is.

With Martin and Armstrong coming in we gain a scorer, and a legit 7 foot shotblocker/rebounder to protect the basket. This trade also adds depth to our bench (Battier and Hayes take there rightful positions) which takes pressure off of Ariza, allowing him to move to his natural position at SF where he can be more effective (thank God). Martin can also create his own shot which is something this team desperately needed (we were asking way to much of just Aaron Brooks). Both of these players are younger than Landry as well. I will miss Carl, but from a team standpoint this makes us better. I was like WTF at first until I thought about what this team needs, and this trade actually helps us out in both areas, so I'm all for it.
Dude we just got Kevin Martin.

Do you know what the difference between him and Tmac is? NONE. We basically just threw landry away.

Double-Up
02-18-2010, 03:29 AM
Someone please fucking shoot me.

WE TRADE AWAY OUR BEST PLAYER!??!?!?!


We still have the 7"6" piece of shit and we trade away my favorite player on the team?!??!


This can't be happening, Carl Landry was the world to me! :depressed:depressed:(:ihit

It's still a lateral move at worst but could turn out to be a lot better since Martin will play off Yao next season. Then if that doesn't work Yao's contract will expire and we can go in a different direction. Calm the fuck down.

sook
02-18-2010, 03:30 AM
Here's some new smack: you will die alone and unloved, nickel dick.

Anyway, why is picking up a 20 ppg 2 guard for the corpse of McGrady and Carl Landry a horrible trade? Nobody is claiming this puts the Rockets in the upper echelon of anything. It's a calculated risk worth doing. Like the Marion and Butler/Haywood trades. Anyway, carry on rooting for the 2006 champs!

Have you seen K-Mart, he jacks up a crap load of stupid ass shots and is just As injury prone as tmac.

sook
02-18-2010, 03:32 AM
Except Landry has All-Star potential.

Damn, T-Mac's massive $23M expiring should have been enough to get a Martin level player, especially in today's economy-conscious NBA. But to throw in Landry, thats a huge coup for the Kings.
this.

timvp
02-18-2010, 03:33 AM
Not really. I love Landry, and he is a great high energy guy, but I understand why we made this trade. As good as Landry is on offense he is below average on defense. I've watched every Rockets game for the past three seasons, and he gives back just as many points as he scores. He is either to short to stop anyone from scoring around the basket or out of position on defense. His rebounding is also below average. The reason why Scola is starting is because you can expect 15/10 from him just about every night. It's not like Landry is a spring chicken either seeing as Scola (at 30) is only 2 years older than he is.

With Martin and Armstrong coming in we gain a scorer, and a legit 7 foot shotblocker/rebounder to protect the basket. This trade also adds depth to our bench (Battier and Hayes take there rightful positions) which takes pressure off of Ariza, allowing him to move to his natural position at SF where he can be more effective (thank God). Martin can also create his own shot which is something this team desperately needed (we were asking way to much of just Aaron Brooks). Both of these players are younger than Landry as well. I will miss Carl, but from a team standpoint this makes us better. I was like WTF at first until I thought about what this team needs, and this trade actually helps us out in both areas, so I'm all for it.

:lmao

I'm sorry but that might be the most ridiculous thing ever posted on ST. Has Rocket Fan not watch Hilton Armstrong play? He might be the worst player in the NBA. He's not going to be starting for the Rockets. Once his contract runs out, he'll be out of the NBA. Armstrong was thrown in the deal just to match salary.

Overall, it wasn't a horrible deal for the Rockets. Martin is a damn good scorer who, if healthy, gives the team the first option the Rockets desperately needed. Like I said earlier, adding Martin also likely makes Ariza much better.

But this isn't any type of steal. Landry is a fantastic role player. He likely won't blossom into a star or anything but he's easily the best bench bigman in the league. He was instrumental in the Rockets staying afloat and provided a lot of that heart and grit that made the team overachieve.

If Martin stays healthy, if Ariza shines in a complementary role and if the Rockets can find a quality big to replace Landry, this trade could turn out to be a good one. But it's pretty risky and, no, Armstrong isn't that quality big :lol

sook
02-18-2010, 03:40 AM
Armstrong is shit, Sergio is decent.

Overall we got ass fucked.

sook
02-18-2010, 03:42 AM
It's still a lateral move at worst but could turn out to be a lot better since Martin will play off Yao next season. Then if that doesn't work Yao's contract will expire and we can go in a different direction. Calm the fuck down.

oh so now it will be Kevin martin missing games with Yao next season instead of mcgrady!!!

Yay!

sook
02-18-2010, 03:43 AM
What the fuck, Houston!?! I wouldn't trade Landry for Martin straight up, much less give away McGrady's expiring too. LMAO if Sacramento gets the deal done with the Knicks for Hill and the draft picks now.

if they get the knicks deal, people need to start a riot. Morey isn't at fault here though, its our cheap ass fucking ownder.

The Franchise
02-18-2010, 03:48 AM
Armstrong is shit, Sergio is decent.

Overall we got ass fucked.

We will see once he gets to Houston. I want to see how he fits into our system before I call him shit. Besides, he looked ok his first year when NO was winning. A change of scenery may be exactly what he needs to give a fuck. :lol

redzero
02-18-2010, 03:49 AM
We will see once he gets to Houston. I want to see how he fits into our system before I call him shit. Besides, he looked ok his first year when NO was winning. A change of scenery may be exactly what he needs to give a fuck. :lol

Dude, Hilton is useless. Completely, utterly useless.

Many PackYao
02-18-2010, 03:56 AM
:lmao

I'm sorry but that might be the most ridiculous thing ever posted on ST. Has Rocket Fan not watch Hilton Armstrong play? He might be the worst player in the NBA. He's not going to be starting for the Rockets. Once his contract runs out, he'll be out of the NBA. Armstrong was thrown in the deal just to match salary.

Overall, it wasn't a horrible deal for the Rockets. Martin is a damn good scorer who, if healthy, gives the team the first option the Rockets desperately needed. Like I said earlier, adding Martin also likely makes Ariza much better.

But this isn't any type of steal. Landry is a fantastic role player. He likely won't blossom into a star or anything but he's easily the best bench bigman in the league. He was instrumental in the Rockets staying afloat and provided a lot of that heart and grit that made the team overachieve.

If Martin stays healthy, if Ariza shines in a complementary role and if the Rockets can find a quality big to replace Landry, this trade could turn out to be a good one. But it's pretty risky and, no, Armstrong isn't that quality big :lol
Yes, the first thing I thought of when I saw Armstrong's name in the trade is this.....

http://i45.tinypic.com/34hihbm.jpg

sook
02-18-2010, 03:59 AM
We will see once he gets to Houston. I want to see how he fits into our system before I call him shit. Besides, he looked ok his first year when NO was winning. A change of scenery may be exactly what he needs to give a fuck. :lol
no...dude HA is that bad... :lol:depressed

Lars
02-18-2010, 04:04 AM
Not sure how I feel about this trade. Guess we will see how good Morey really is at analytics.

The Franchise
02-18-2010, 04:08 AM
no...dude HA is that bad... :lol:depressed

Can I be allowed to dream? :lol

IronMexican
02-18-2010, 04:21 AM
This is the man rocketfan worships. Time to turn Kevin Martin into the #1 and Ariza as his side-kick

Pentagruel
02-18-2010, 04:22 AM
This trade is madness. Rockets have been shrewd for quite a few years and now we have this? Maybe there is something else coming up but as it stands this is a heinous crime by Morey.

jdev82
02-18-2010, 04:26 AM
who is the better player? martin by far. who is more worthwhile to the team that already has good scoring options in ariza, brooks, landry, and scola? landry by far. if brooks is going to become a great scorer, something i think he has the potential to do, like a better shooting allen iverson, he cant have kevin martin there. on the other hand, kevin martin has the potential to be like reggie miller in his 30's. secondary scorer that can come through with big shots and points when you need it. he was averaging 30 a game on limited shots with tyreke in the lineup before his injury. i think if landry is included the deal is dumb, but houston may still make the playoffs.

djohn2oo8
02-18-2010, 07:54 AM
Son of a monkey ass bitch with a side of you've gotta be fucking kidding me

djohn2oo8
02-18-2010, 07:55 AM
Looks like this won't be the last deal, Im betting Battier is gone next. Morey, good sir, WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING?????????

ginobili's bald spot
02-18-2010, 08:36 AM
So let me get this straight... The Rockets wanted to get rid of their overpaid, injury prone shooting guard. So they traded him for another overpaid, injury prone shooting guard? :lmao And just to make sure this deal got done they threw their best player in for good measure. :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao Epic fail.

The Franchise
02-18-2010, 08:41 AM
So let me get this straight... The Rockets wanted to get rid of their overpaid, injury prone shooting guard. So they traded him for another overpaid, injury prone shooting guard? :lmao And just to make sure this deal got done they threw their best player in for good measure. :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao Epic fail.

How many Rockets games have you actually watched this year?

djohn2oo8
02-18-2010, 08:42 AM
So let me get this straight... The Rockets wanted to get rid of their overpaid, injury prone shooting guard. So they traded him for another overpaid, injury prone shooting guard? :lmao And just to make sure this deal got done they threw their best player in for good measure. :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao Epic fail.

At the worst, they'll still get a lottery pick, you dumb fuck

benefactor
02-18-2010, 08:45 AM
Rocket fan is hilarious in this thread with all their justifications for giving up Landry. I hate to tell you this.....

http://static.open.salon.com/files/lipstick-on-a-pig1225026721.jpg

djohn2oo8
02-18-2010, 08:47 AM
Rocket fan is hilarious in this thread with all their justifications for giving up Landry. I hate to tell you this.....

http://static.open.salon.com/files/lipstick-on-a-pig1225026721.jpg

Have you watched the 4th quarters? No one was getting it done, now Im not happy at all that Landry is gone, not one bit. But this seems to be setting them up for going after Bosh in the summer

Double-Up
02-18-2010, 08:52 AM
I don't like the trade either but it's already done so fuck it...our GM has done a solid job so far so why doubt him now?

djohn2oo8
02-18-2010, 08:53 AM
I don't like the trade either but it's already done so fuck it...our GM has done a solid job so far so why doubt him now?

You think they are goin after Tyrus Thomas?

ginobili's bald spot
02-18-2010, 09:00 AM
wNsJUmFrUCA

Mark in Austin
02-18-2010, 09:08 AM
If this goes down props to Sac. Their mission ever since last offseason was to get tougher - there were too many pussies on the team.

Landry certainly adds toughness.

With Casspi also playing well this might make Nocioni available.

Double-Up
02-18-2010, 09:25 AM
You think they are goin after Tyrus Thomas?

Who knows? Everything we though has been nothing but a smokescreen for a different deal. Hopefully we can get Jordan Hill from NY and make it a 3 team trade because we needs bigs more than ever now.

Blame Tracy
02-18-2010, 09:36 AM
The trade deadline, as I recall it, still ends at 3 PM ET today... I still think D. Morey has something else that is up his sleeve....

Indazone
02-18-2010, 09:36 AM
W/e after thinking about this trade for a few minutes

I have decided that it is a great trade. Martin is that legit SG we need. Landry has reached his ceiling; Morey will probably draft a nice PF form this PF loaded draft. 20+ of the first round picks are PF/C's.

We also get Sergio; Morey was pretty high on him (same with every other Spanish guard)

MORON! Hating this trade

Indazone
02-18-2010, 09:41 AM
:lmao

I'm sorry but that might be the most ridiculous thing ever posted on ST. Has Rocket Fan not watch Hilton Armstrong play? He might be the worst player in the NBA. He's not going to be starting for the Rockets. Once his contract runs out, he'll be out of the NBA. Armstrong was thrown in the deal just to match salary.

Overall, it wasn't a horrible deal for the Rockets. Martin is a damn good scorer who, if healthy, gives the team the first option the Rockets desperately needed. Like I said earlier, adding Martin also likely makes Ariza much better.

But this isn't any type of steal. Landry is a fantastic role player. He likely won't blossom into a star or anything but he's easily the best bench bigman in the league. He was instrumental in the Rockets staying afloat and provided a lot of that heart and grit that made the team overachieve.

If Martin stays healthy, if Ariza shines in a complementary role and if the Rockets can find a quality big to replace Landry, this trade could turn out to be a good one. But it's pretty risky and, no, Armstrong isn't that quality big :lol

As usual, Timvp has away of saying it exactly as it is. We traded the heart and soul of the Rockets away today.

djohn2oo8
02-18-2010, 09:44 AM
As usual, Timvp has away of saying it exactly as it is. We traded the heart and soul of the Rockets away today.

Kyle Lowry has somethin to say about that

tlongII
02-18-2010, 10:56 AM
We I first saw news of this I didn't realize Landry was involved in the deal. Landry's departure is definitely going to hurt the Rockets in the frontcourt. Martin's good, but he's fragile.

Indazone
02-18-2010, 11:02 AM
He is a toolshed

mavsfan1000
02-18-2010, 11:04 AM
Too bad it wasn't Lowry the Rockets gave away. Now that would be rapage. Martin has been terrible this year btw.

djohn2oo8
02-18-2010, 11:06 AM
Too bad it wasn't Lowry the Rockets gave away. Now that would be rapage. Martin has been terrible this year btw.

I'll take his 21.0 PPG....This is for now, and the long run.....Plus, there is another deal in the works

ffadicted
02-18-2010, 11:09 AM
I actually like this trade for the rockets, especially if they can snag Jordan Hill from the Knicks to replace (well.... lol) Landry

djohn2oo8
02-18-2010, 11:12 AM
I actually like this trade for the rockets, especially if they can snag Jordan Hill from the Knicks to replace (well.... lol) Landry

Maybe this deal explains why they are interested in Tyrus Thomas, but still...

Kai
02-18-2010, 11:14 AM
I haven't seen Kevin Martin play once this season, and I know he's taken a hit in the efficiency department, but he does have the ability to be an elite scorer in this league. Those 25 ppg players are hard to come by, and it is something we have really wanted to have beside Yao. I hear KMart loves to play for Adelman, so hopefully he can get back to what he was once doing for him.

This deal could turn out to be very good for us if Martin produces what he's capable of producing. That said, I still feel like I'm dreaming when I think about the fact that Landry isn't a Rocket anymore. He's probably the last one on the roster I wanted traded.

lil_penny
02-18-2010, 11:15 AM
Sorry to hear rockets fans.. I like martin, but moving landry also just doesn't seem like a good move he's been such a stud this season.

Kai
02-18-2010, 11:19 AM
It should be noted that Landry has struggled the last dozen or so games. Now that defenses have really focused on him, he hasn't produced nearly as much as he was earlier in the season. His defensive rebounding isn't all that, and I would admit to us Rocket fans probably over valuing him. But still, I want him back so bad. :(

Indazone
02-18-2010, 11:28 AM
It should be noted that Landry has struggled the last dozen or so games. Now that defenses have really focused on him, he hasn't produced nearly as much as he was earlier in the season. His defensive rebounding isn't all that, and I would admit to us Rocket fans probably over valuing him. But still, I want him back so bad. :(

Tooth knocked out in the playoffs, multiple teeth knocked out and embedded in Dirks arm, several facials of NBA Marquis players including Duncan, massive block on DWill, several NBA clips of dunk of the day, shot in the leg and still comes back to play a month later.

Friends...this is not a normal NBA player. This is the stuff that legends are made. WHYYYYYYYY MOREY!!!!!

lefty
02-18-2010, 11:32 AM
Now without Landry's toughness, they have become the Roxettes

Kai
02-18-2010, 11:35 AM
Now without Landry's toughness, they have become the Roxettes

Mr Lowry and Mr Hayes would like to have a word with you.

ffadicted
02-18-2010, 11:46 AM
Now without Landry's toughness, they have become the Roxettes

weak

djohn2oo8
02-18-2010, 11:49 AM
Now without Landry's toughness, they have become the Roxettes

Coming from a fan of a team with Richard Jefferson on it

TheProfessor
02-18-2010, 11:56 AM
Coming from a fan of a team with Richard Jefferson on it
Touché.

lefty
02-18-2010, 12:07 PM
weak
I haven't eaten yet :lol

lefty
02-18-2010, 12:08 PM
Mr Lowry and Mr Hayes would like to have a word with you.
They are both pussies

Bonner would shit on them

djohn2oo8
02-18-2010, 12:15 PM
They are both pussies

Bonner would shit on them

Impossible, you can't blow your load and shit on anybody at the same time

ffadicted
02-18-2010, 12:27 PM
Impossible, you can't blow your load and shit on anybody at the same time

See: Blumpkin (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=blumpkin)

Also, this is my prediction of how the trade will turn out:
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yfj2az4
Along with draft picks and cash here and there, idk lol
Maybe Larry Hughes gets used instead of Harrington, but I don't think the Knicks are that smart

Red Hawk #21
02-18-2010, 12:52 PM
Stop hating on Kevin Martin man, he's one of the most underrated cats in the game. And he's one of my favorite players as well, I don't think the Rox should have given up Landry but I think this trade will work out fine for Houston.
PG- Aaron Brooks
SG- Kmart
SF- Trevor Ariza
PF-Luis Scola
C- Chuck Hayes
Thats a fine starting lineup.

Banzai
02-18-2010, 12:56 PM
I keep reading that TMAC is going to the Kings..everyone else knows about this?

djohn2oo8
02-18-2010, 12:56 PM
Right now, Morey and Sacramento are holding Donnie Walsh hostage, as Sacramento is hesitant to trade McGrady to the Kings, the Rockets want Jordan Hill and the picks for taking Jeffries