Parker will play this summer

[benefactor]

Might as well get thread started.


I approached Parker after the game and asked if his recent vacation had helped his body.

“Not really,” Parker said.

“Well, at least you’ll have this summer to get right,” I offered.

“No, this summer I have the national team,” Parker said, somewhat surprisingly.

Oh.

I took a moment to clarify, but the answer stuck. Unless Parker’s body simply quits, he plans to play this summer.

http://www.48minutesofhell.com/2010/02/18/tony-parkers-long-years/

GTFO Parker.

[Fpoonsie]

Well, fuck.

[HarlemHeat37]

LOL the hits keep coming..

This should be an entertaining thread..

[timvp]

The fail factor of this season is reaching epic proportions.

[ffadicted]

Jesus fuck is this guy for real

[Bruno]

:corn:

[Chomag]

Said this in the other thread might as well here.

Geeeze! I hope TP was joking....

If true and he meant it he needs to be traded as soon as possible. No hating but we cant walk on eggs anymore because of international play while TD is in the last of his career.

[024]

trade him.

[StoneBuddha]

Is he dense? I respect the desire to play for their national teams but isn't it painfully obvious the effect it is having on their careers.

C'est Lavie?!?! :bang

[clambake]

maybe he said it to push for a trade.

[Chomag]

TP + Mason, and maybe some fillers for Bosh right now!!! Do it!!! Do it now!!!!

[timvp]

If Parker actually plays for the FNT, I'd advocate a trade. Going into the final year of his contract, his value would never be higher.

You'd think he would have learned by how his body is ruined this season. If he doesn't care enough about ring number five to rest up for what will likely be the last chance, ship him out.

[Kori Ellis]

I still don't think there's any chance Tony plays this summer. I don't care what he's saying now.

[EricB]

Adios tony. Package him up and see what you can get for him.

[tav1]

i still don't think there's any chance tony plays this summer. I don't care what he's saying now.

+1.

[Chomag]

Quick!!! Somone forward this to the FO while there is still time left!

J/K but I do hope the FO does know where tony stands right now.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Waiting impatiently to see how Ducks will spin this story into a reason for trading Manu. Maybe his influence is bad for Tony, eh Ducks?

[timvp]

The ironic thing is that if TP plays on the FNT, I would actually expect the Spurs to trade him -- which makes re-signing Manu a lot less likely. Why invest in Manu if you are going to rebuild? TP could very well be making a decision that decides Manu's future.

:lol

:depressed

:cry

[Chomag]

I still don't think there's any chance Tony plays this summer. I don't care what he's saying now.

Maybe, but thats a very huge gamble to take when it comes strait from the mans mouth himself.

[TDomination]

:( poor timmy

parker will be hurt all year and manu will be coming off the bench for kobe

[Kori Ellis]

Maybe, but thats a very huge gamble to take when it comes strait from the mans mouth himself.

Well I'm sure that the Spurs will talk to Parker directly. They won't read a blog to find out what he's going to do.

[ducks]

I think he will not play but he still wants france to think he is
he has already hinted he would not

[TimmehC]

Well, at least he'll have a couple months off in between the end of the Spurs season and Worlds.

[Marcus Bryant]

Of course TP is talking shit. The Spurs tried to trade his ass earlier this season.

Oh well, this appears to be the end, as far as serious contention goes. It's been one hell of a ride.

[Mel_13]

I think he will not play but he still wants france to think he is
he has already hinted he would not

That would perfect sense if this was a quote from a French interview. There's no reason to say it to an American blogger unless you mean it.

[it's me]

... but .. it's Manu's fault.....

Fixed.

[Allanon]

Wow.

Truly one of the disadvantages of picking up Euros for the team.

Almost every Euro who is good enough to play in the NBA is a star on his NT and feels an obligation to play.

[angel_luv]

I understand Tony wanting to play for the NT.
But playing year round is such a strain on the body... especially from Tony Parker whom so much is required from in terms of minutes played and production.

Eventually, something has to give.

[Kori Ellis]

That would perfect sense if this was a quote from a French interview. There's no reason to say it to an American blogger unless you mean it.

I don't think it's a matter of lying. I think Parker, if he were healthy, would want to play. But when it comes down to it, and he reflects on this season, the injuries, his contract, etc., he probably won't play.

[ohmwrecker]

Trade Parker and watch the dominos fall. Manu will not be back and there is no way Duncan is going to be on board for a full re-build . . . Trade demand or early retirement. Bet on it.

[SenorSpur]

The bricks of the foundation continue to fall apart.

Manu will be gone this summer.

TP will have pissed off the FO and orchestrated his own exit.

All that will be left is Duncan.

Oh well. It's been fun.

[ducks]

if spurs trade tp and let manu walk
I would want to trade duncan and completly rebuild

[timvp]

I found video from the team bus of Parker telling Pop he's planning on playing for the French national team this summer:










http://i45.tinypic.com/3160sc9.jpg

[#2!]

fuck that shit. If he does play then its a total lack of respect for Tim. I get the national team thing, but when you so obviously owe the successes in your career to one player then you think you could stay at home a couple of summers to help him out.


I considered tony an "if the right deal comes along" trading asset before, now I don't see any reason we shouldn't try and use him, manu, and RJ to pick up a main cog of a new Big 3.

[Chomag]

I found video from the team bus of Parker telling Pop he's planning on playing for the French national team this summer:










http://i45.tinypic.com/3160sc9.jpg

rofl!

[SenorSpur]

I found video from the team bus of Parker telling Pop he's planning on playing for the French national team this summer:










http://i45.tinypic.com/3160sc9.jpg

:lol

[Leetonidas]

I found video from the team bus of Parker telling Pop he's planning on playing for the French national team this summer:










http://i45.tinypic.com/3160sc9.jpg

Damn the Spurs' bus looks so rickety. Holt really is a cheap ass.

[Libri]

I found video from the team bus of Parker telling Pop he's planning on playing for the French national team this summer:










http://i45.tinypic.com/3160sc9.jpg
:lmao

[Allanon]

http://i45.tinypic.com/3160sc9.jpg

Look at Manu, he's just looking straight ahead like nothing's happening :lol

[Chomag]

The bricks of the foundation continue to fall apart.

Manu will be gone this summer.

TP will have pissed off the FO and orchestrated his own exit.

All that will be left is Duncan.

Oh well. It's been fun.

MAybe thats just it.... This is what the end looks like. it starts slowly with one piece breaking then all the pieces start crumbling apart.:depressed

I have always wondered what the ending of a dynasty really looked and felt like "sigh" So this what Rome was like.

IF so, hell of a run though!

[benefactor]

I found video from the team bus of Parker telling Pop he's planning on playing for the French national team this summer:










http://i45.tinypic.com/3160sc9.jpg
:lol

[Spursmania]

Dammit, not again Tony. Don't you ever learn?

[timvp]

Look at Manu, he's just looking straight ahead like nothing's happening :lol

:lol

[Mel_13]

I don't think it's a matter of lying. I think Parker, if he were healthy, would want to play. But when it comes down to it, and he reflects on this season, the injuries, his contract, etc., he probably won't play.

I hope you're right.

I'll quote myself from another thread:

My theory on that is simple. Tony made all that noise earlier about not playing for the NT to get the Spurs to open negotiations on an extension. The Spurs said we'll talk to you in 2011 and so Tony sees no reason to take the summer off. Except for giving the Spurs the best chance to win next year, which is now clearly not his highest priority.

There's really no reason not to trade Tony this summer.

[Spursmania]

I don't think it's a matter of lying. I think Parker, if he were healthy, would want to play. But when it comes down to it, and he reflects on this season, the injuries, his contract, etc., he probably won't play.

I think TP has a huge ego. I think he will play because he thinks he can handle it.

[z0sa]

:td This has huge implications.

[Parker2112]

I don't think it's a matter of lying. I think Parker, if he were healthy, would want to play. But when it comes down to it, and he reflects on this season, the injuries, his contract, etc., he probably won't play.

I think this is wishful thinking. The reason I say that is because everyone thought Manu would have "reflected" and made the right decision as well.

I just wonder how many more years of non-contention TD will put up with here.

[Parker2112]

I think TP has a huge ego. I think he will play because he thinks he can handle it.

I think TP is pissed and feels a lot less loyalty after his name got kicked around in trade talks.

[Parker2112]

:td This has huge implications.

Lets hope Georgie gets his first all star nod soon. :depressed

[Mel_13]

The bricks of the foundation continue to fall apart.

Manu will be gone this summer.

TP will have pissed off the FO and orchestrated his own exit.

All that will be left is Duncan.

Oh well. It's been fun.

Could very well happen.

I've always thought there were many parallels between the Duncan Spurs and the Atlanta Braves of recent history. Look at them now with Bobby Cox and Chipper Jones and a bunch of guys in Braves uniforms that no longer play like the Braves.

[ElNono]

i found video from the team bus of parker telling pop he's planning on playing for the french national team this summer:
http://i45.tinypic.com/3160sc9.jpg

lmao

[benefactor]

I think TP is pissed and feels a lot less loyalty after his name got kicked around in trade talks.
He can be pissed...and he can GTFO too.

[Kamnik]

If Parker actually plays for the FNT, I'd advocate a trade. Going into the final year of his contract, his value would never be higher.

You'd think he would have learned by how his body is ruined this season. If he doesn't care enough about ring number five to rest up for what will likely be the last chance, ship him out.

Trading all veteran players (TP, Manu and even TD if he wants it to a contender) would bring in shitloads of young players and picks.

So... if the team fails this year and TP wants to play then HELL YES, blow up the team and rebuild.

[ElNono]

Icing on the cake on trade deadline day...

[tp2021]

What can we get in return for our expirings, Manu, and Tony?

[Fpoonsie]

He can be pissed...and he can GTFO too.

Este.

[Spursmania]

Icing on the cake on trade deadline day...

http://media.cakecentral.com/modules/coppermine/albums/userpics/722501/DSC00167.JPG

[Spurs Brazil]

Fuck, things just get better and better...:(

[Texas_Ranger]

Stupid fuck!

[NFGIII]

Unbelievable! TP is hurting due to his playing way too much BB and not getting the proper rest. He hurt himself last summer playing for the NT and now, already hurt, he is going to play for the NT this summer? This could be the beginning of the end for him. If he gets hurt more and loses a step on the court his becomes just another average PG. His game will disappear faster than a serving of Creme Bleu.

If TP plays this summer then I would be open to trading him. The wear and tear of too much BB is showing and when he breaks down he will be only a shell of his former self as the Spurs starting PG. That is not acceptable.


From what others have indicated this may have been a negotiating tactic that will most likely fail against the Spurs FO/Pop. If TP is traded then I agree with Timvp that most likely that will decide Manu's fate, too. If so and without a blockbuster of a trade, which I don't see coming, then the Spurs are in rebuilding mode. At that point might as well trade TD for something - God I don't believe I said that! The concept of trading TD to me is heresy but it might come to be. But if you are going to go to that extreme then it makes sense trading TD, too.

[Libri]

:pctoss

I'm running out of monitors to throw.

[ElNono]

http://media.cakecentral.com/modules/coppermine/albums/userpics/722501/DSC00167.JPG

:lmao

[newacc]

Parker is dumb as hell.

Maybe 4 days in the NBA wouldn't feel like a month if he rested in the summer. He's already a busted 27.

[Truckules]

I found video from the team bus of Parker telling Pop he's planning on playing for the French national team this summer:










http://i45.tinypic.com/3160sc9.jpg

If Tony does play this summer, he'll be telling Pop to bring ambalamps.

[ElNono]

http://i49.tinypic.com/27zazpy.png

[DBMethos]

Fuck this season.

[rAm]

Look at Manu, he's just looking straight ahead like nothing's happening :lol

rofl

[xapatan2]

Of course TP is talking shit. The Spurs tried to trade his ass earlier this season.

Oh well, this appears to be the end, as far as serious contention goes. It's been one hell of a ride.

This is interesting. from here, i had not picked this info about the fact that the spurs had tried to trade his ass earlier in the season.

I would not over-react to this interview, as it seems to be mostly the reaction here. We don't have all the information about what's behind.

facts :
- remember the Jason Kidd story
- the balance between what the spurs paid for Parker during all this years and what he has given to the spurs gives an excellent investment for the spurs (one of their best).
- Nba is a business


So jumping on the GTFO Tony Parker wagon is not very very nice.

I do think as well he is talking shit. What are the real insights ?
I don't know

xap'


PS : Timvp, the video you picked is just "Classic" ! fucking brilliant !

[TJastal]

And to think the whole "raising the bar" idea started after somebody suggested a Parker trade.

I wonder who that mofo was...

[SenorSpur]

Does anyone have any details on TP's name coming up in recent trade talks? That's the first I've heard.

[LOL@MavsFan]

Parker has been and always will be about himself...fuck him

[Mr. Body]

I'd rather him play for a team with a shot at winning something. So I'm all for it.

[timvp]

I'd rather him play for a team with a shot at winning something. So I'm all for it.

France is like the Pacers of international basketball.

[Kori Ellis]

Does anyone have any details on TP's name coming up in recent trade talks? That's the first I've heard.

A report came out that the Spurs offered Parker for Paul; Spurs denied it.

[Parker2112]

Does anyone have any details on TP's name coming up in recent trade talks? That's the first I've heard.

TP was rumored in an offer to Hornets for Paul, weeks ago. It supposedly got leaked, but whether it was true or not, I was wondering how Parker was going to feel about his name coming up. This is a hint that he might have taken it badly, especially since before that he was saying he wouldnt play for France this summer. I have to think something caused a change here.

[Kori Ellis]

I talked to Hornet front office people. They were shocked when that story came out. They had not even heard of it.

Yeah, I talked to a few people too who said it didn't happen.

[Josepatches_]

If the Spurs have to say not play to Parker I'd trade him right now.


In the summer of 2011 he will have to play again if he wants to stay in London 2012.And that means he could be in London 2012 too.

So he played last summer,he wants to play this summer,he will have to play in 2011 to qualify for the Olympic Games so he could play in 2012 too.

Trade now and don't resign Manu.Use that money to sign Bosh next summer.

[ginobili fan]

All of this is BS people.
It's 100% sure that Parker will rest this summer.
I'm surprised that you still don't know the guy well.
He will be in his last year of contract he is capable of throwing FNT out to keep his value high.

[Parker2112]

I am begining to think that the incident where TP was flown back from Europe to check out his injury this past summer had lingering effects between TP and the Spurs FO. I think things have gone downhill from there. Slowly but Shurely. Just my two cents though.

[Pauleta14]

One thing we can all be sure about is that Tony HAS MORE INTEREST THAN ANY OF US of having the best 2010-2011 season!!!!
This will be the last year of his contract and adding the new Collective B.. he'll have to be at his best to get a good contract...

Athough I personaly think he won't play next summer, even if he does, he'll "find a way" to be good next year...

[Mel_13]

One thing we can all be sure about is that Tony HAS MORE INTEREST THAN ANY OF US of having the best 2010-2011 season!!!!
This will be the last year of his contract and adding the new Collective B.. he'll have to be at his best to get a good contract...


This all makes good common sense. Tony playing this summer does not.

[ginobili fan]

One thing we can all be sure about is that Tony HAS MORE INTEREST THAN ANY OF US of having the best 2010-2011 season!!!!
This will be the last year of his contract and adding the new Collective B.. he'll have to be at his best to get a good contract...

Athough I personaly think he won't play next summer, even if he does, he'll "find a way" to be good next year...

this.
the guy wants his contract it's way more important than NT

[Pauleta14]

I am begining to think that the incident where TP was flown back from Europe to check out his injury this past summer had lingering effects between TP and the Spurs FO. I think things have gone downhill from there. Slowly but Shurely. Just my two cents though.


I agree with you, I think that "incident" reminded Tony, that despite everything he's done and the "weight" he has gained in the spurs over the years, he shoudn't expect any gifts or "indulgence" from the spurs FO because THIS IS STILL A BUSINESS !!!!

[Ocotillo]

With Tony's hip hurting right now Pop ought to go ahead and rest him the rest of the season so he can be fresh for this summer. :p:

[Bukefal]

oh no, There we go :corn:

[Duncan2177]

Parker is sure one crazy motherfucker.

[Brazil]

:corn:

[Muser]

Fuck you Tony. Duncan deserves better than this.

[nkdlunch]

rest Parker. France needs him.

[PDXSpursFan]

:bang Trade his ass right now before the deadline together with any combination of Boner, Mason and/or Finley.

[trypldubl]

What is this year? The World Championships? Do they even have a shot at winning it? Maybe Tony knows that they plan to unleash Ian on the rest of the world. :p:

[Bukefal]

Jeez these reactions of some of you in here.

Unbelievable how dramatic and stupid some of your reactions can be. besides, first this doesnt mean shit. second, you should wait for a better source, who knows if he really said that and meant that? You have to hear what tony himself says in a real interview, press conference etc.. before jumping around like a bunch of crazy people all dramatic.

We dont even know and yet this little 'article' got you all going crazy.

I dont think tony is going to play this summer and even if he was, so what? Tony is Tony, our top player, has done so much, have some confidence. Saying such things are really crazy and unnecessary. Tony knows whats good for him, besides he already pointed out that going to play next summer is probably not such a good thing, because he is exhausted if he does so.

[benefactor]

Deadline passed, details trickling in. Grizz backed off trying to move Mayo/Conley. Asking too much, sources say.
Damn...missed opportunity.

[SpursNextRomanEmpire]

those that murmur should learn sound doctrine!

[TJastal]

Jeez these reactions of some of you in here.

Unbelievable how dramatic and stupid some of your reactions can be. besides, first this doesnt mean shit. second, you should wait for a better source, who knows if he really said that and meant that? You have to hear what tony himself says in a real interview, press conference etc.. before jumping around like a bunch of crazy people all dramatic.

We dont even know and yet this little 'article' got you all going crazy.

I dont think tony is going to play this summer and even if he was, so what? Tony is Tony, our top player, has done so much, have some confidence. Saying such things are really crazy and unnecessary. Tony knows whats good for him, besides he already pointed out that going to play next summer is probably not such a good thing, because he is exhausted if he does so.

Well next year when Parker plays the entire year hampered again we'll see how crazy it is.

[Mel_13]

Tony knows whats good for him

That's just fine. The Spurs know what's best for them, as well. If Tony plays this summer after playing through an assortment of injuries this entire season, trading him would be good for the Spurs.

[Budkin]

Enough of this bullshit Parker. Quit spitting in your fans faces.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

...Tony is Tony, our top player...

:rollin

[slayermin]

Many of my friends here in San Antonio hate him. They think he's a ballhog and blame him for all that is wrong with the Spurs. They would love to see him go.

I always argue against them about his contributions to the Spurs. But this one is going to be difficult to defend.

[Bukefal]

Well next year when Parker plays the entire year hampered again we'll see how crazy it is.


That's just fine. The Spurs know what's best for them, as well. If Tony plays this summer after playing through an assortment of injuries this entire season, trading him would be good for the Spurs.

Man, im just saying, we dont know shit and yet we are going crazy already. This article doesnt mean shit. No need for drama. Plus, he himself has already shown that its not the best option to play this summer. So have some confidence and wait.

[Bukefal]

:rollin

Ok, did I say something funny here? I dont think so. You dont think Tony is our top player? I said TOP, I didnt say BEST. Let's not go there again, yeaah yeahh i know duncan is our best, im not saying tony is.

So whats so funny? Isnt Tony a top player of the Spurs?

With Tony is Tony, I meant; we should know him by now and have some confidence, instead of over some shitty article. Like ginobili fan said; Its surprising that some still don't know the guy well.

[tp2021]

Plus, he himself has already shown that its not the best option to play this summer. So have some confidence.

Yeah, because he'd have no way of knowing that playing for the NT was a bad idea the last time he did it. It's not like anyone else on the SPurs has ever been injured while playing for their NT before.

[tp2021]

Damn double post

[benefactor]

Damn...missed opportunity.
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yz5be8c

[Bukefal]

Yeah, because he'd have no way of knowing that playing for the NT was a bad idea the last time he did it. It's not like anyone else on the SPurs has ever been injured while playing for their NT before.

yeah, but that isnt what i was saying. I was just pointing out, that we shouldnt go all drama all of a sudden, just because this article.

[Mel_13]

Man, im just saying, we dont know shit and yet we are going crazy already. This article doesnt mean shit. No need for drama. Plus, he himself has already shown that its not the best option to play this summer. So have some confidence and wait.

Not going crazy.

The source of the quote is reliable.

Tony has every right to play this summer.

I believe that the Spurs should trade him while they still can get good value for him if he chooses the NT over resting the summer.

Tony made noise after the 07-08 season that the Spurs could only go one more season without major changes. He applauded the major changes made this past summer. One of the major reasons (not the only reason) for this disappointing season has been the significant decrease in Tony's level of play. Nagging injuries are largely responsible for his relatively poor performance. If he is fully committed to the Spurs, he'll rest this summer. If he's not, it's time to part company.

Plain and simple.

[angelbelow]

well shit..

[Spurtacus]

TP soon to be toilet paper.

[in2deep]

:lmao

[crc21209]

He is a fucking idiot if he does play...

[TD 21]

The Spurs should probably shop him this summer. Enough is enough; fuck these guys. Parker is already the oldest 27 year old in the league, is literally running on fumes and is planning on playing in the summer again so he can be in even worse shape next season? This is the same guy who publicly implored (and I was happy he did it) management at the conclusion of last season to improve the team and this is how he repays them? By not being able to be at his best consistently.

Almost everyday now it's something else; it's unfortunate how this organization went from the best in sports to unraveling this quickly. What next?

[DJB]

trade him.

[alchemist]

Tony plays this summer = The end of the Tim Duncan era.

[Obstructed_View]

If Parker actually plays for the FNT, I'd advocate a trade. Going into the final year of his contract, his value would never be higher.

You'd think he would have learned by how his body is ruined this season. If he doesn't care enough about ring number five to rest up for what will likely be the last chance, ship him out.

He's perfectly happy finding someone to finance the French NT. If it's not the Spurs, then it'll be someone else.

[The Truth #6]

Well, the FO already has an excuse to trade him if they need one now. If the Spurs don't turn things around this year, then I think they should trade TP either way. I can't wait for the next round of trade rumors before the draft. Ha.

[baseline bum]

look at manu, he's just looking straight ahead like nothing's happening :lol

rofl

[baseline bum]

Are you fucking kidding me, Parker? Under no circumstance is him playing this summer tolerable. If he doesn't take a few months off to let his plantar fasciitis heal, he's going to doom the next season the same way he did this one. Make no mistake; Tony's injury is the biggest reason this team is shit this season. With another summer of basketball, we're going to see the same Parker again next year and the same result again. I'd rather just blow up the fucking team than have it destined for another season of mediocrity with a 70% Parker. Fuck this entire season.

[Johnny RIngo]

The fail factor of this season is reaching epic proportions.

It's going to be even more painful when we find out Splitter's going to stay in Spain.

[timaios]

So Tony Parker needs to sacrifice his love to play for his national team for what ?

- the great fans who treat him like shit.
- the joy to play in a "contender" starting line up with Bonner & Bogans.
- the greatness of a coach who likes to destroy big leads with stupid small ball.
- the faithful FO who plays mind games with Manu Ginobili after all he did for that team !
- and don't forget the great Ratliff trade, just in time before the deadline... phew !

I really wonder why this guy wants to play with Noah, Batum, Pietrus, Turiaf, actually some guys who know how to defend the rim.

Maybe he just wants to play real basketball with his friends in a great competition.

And for those who call him selfish because he wants to play for his country...
WTF ! You are selfish when you only care about money and you doesn't give a shit about your country.

Now, you can insult me, you're welcome. :toast

[Budkin]

Putain de Merde!

[timaios]

Putain de Merde!

Ok, you made me laugh !

[Johnny RIngo]

So Tony Parker needs to sacrifice his love to play for his national team for what ?

- the great fans who treat him like shit.
- the joy to play in a "contender" starting line up with Bonner & Bogans.
- the greatness of a coach who likes to destroy big leads with stupid small ball.
- the faithful FO who plays mind games with Manu Ginobili after all he did for that team !
- and don't forget the great Ratliff trade, just in time before the deadline... phew !

I really wonder why this guy wants to play with Noah, Batum, Pietrus, Turiaf, actually some guys who know how to defend the rim.

Maybe he just wants to play real basketball with his friends in a great competition.

And for those who call him selfish because he wants to play for his country...
WTF ! You are selfish when you only care about money and you doesn't give a shit about your country.

Now, you can insult me, you're welcome. :toast

You know, as well as I do, that he's catching shit this season because he exhausted his body over the summer playing for shitty France and his play has suffered as a result. If that's the way he treats the SA fans that pay for tickets and the club that gives him his paycheck than he deserves all the criticism.

[Mel_13]

You are selfish when you only care about money and you doesn't give a shit about your country.

I'm not going to say anything about the opinions in the rest of your post. You're certainly entitled to them.

This stuff about putting country before money is a joke. There have been plenty of examples where players have refused to play because they are free agents and do not want to risk injury. Where's their love of country then?

It's so easy to say that team owners should support these international competitions and assume ALL the risk, when players routinely will avoid similar risk if they are without a contract.

Wait for the 2011 EC. You really think Tony will play if he is still a FA when the tournament begins?

I have been a big supporter of players participating in these tournaments, but common sense has to prevail. Tony is suffering from the effects of plantar fasciitis. Only an extended period of rest will correct the condition. Playing for the NT this summer puts his next NBA season at risk.

He still has every right to play, and the Spurs would then have a legitimate reason to trade him.

[baseline bum]

So Tony Parker needs to sacrifice his love to play for his national team for what ?

- the great fans who treat him like shit.
- the joy to play in a "contender" starting line up with Bonner & Bogans.
- the greatness of a coach who likes to destroy big leads with stupid small ball.
- the faithful FO who plays mind games with Manu Ginobili after all he did for that team !
- and don't forget the great Ratliff trade, just in time before the deadline... phew !

I really wonder why this guy wants to play with Noah, Batum, Pietrus, Turiaf, actually some guys who know how to defend the rim.

Maybe he just wants to play real basketball with his friends in a great competition.

And for those who call him selfish because he wants to play for his country...
WTF ! You are selfish when you only care about money and you doesn't give a shit about your country.

Now, you can insult me, you're welcome. :toast

He's playing for the national team when he's got plantar fasciitis and needs a few months of inactivity for it to heal. He's a fucking moron if he doesn't give himself a chance to beat this injury. Parker is obviously not the same player with this, so get the fuck out of here with blaming Popovich for Parker shitting his pants on the floor all season.

[exstatic]

I'm done with Parker's selfish ass. There will be a NUMBER of disappointed suitors this summer, and until he flatlines next season, he's still a high dollar chip at the trading table.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

One thing is for sure. If Parker ends up leaving us, I am guilt free for hating his ass. Right now I believe he's just talking smack for his french fans.

[it's me]

So Tony Parker needs to sacrifice his love to play for his national team for what ?

- the great fans who treat him like shit.
- the joy to play in a "contender" starting line up with Bonner & Bogans.
- the greatness of a coach who likes to destroy big leads with stupid small ball.
- the faithful FO who plays mind games with Manu Ginobili after all he did for that team !
- and don't forget the great Ratliff trade, just in time before the deadline... phew !

I really wonder why this guy wants to play with Noah, Batum, Pietrus, Turiaf, actually some guys who know how to defend the rim.

Maybe he just wants to play real basketball with his friends in a great competition.

And for those who call him selfish because he wants to play for his country...
WTF ! You are selfish when you only care about money and you doesn't give a shit about your country.

Now, you can insult me, you're welcome. :toast


amen..... + 1000000 ... it's a fucking sport.. let the guy play for his NT....

[timaios]

Last year there was no Manu and Tim was not healthy at the end of the season. Tony carried the team most of the time, so it was not a "normal" year.

So remove the 2008-09 season and compare the stats of Parker for the last 3 "normal" seasons :


Year MPG FG% 3P% FT% RPG APG SPG TO PPG

06-07 32.5 0.520 0.395 0.783 3.2 5.5 1.1 2.48 18.6
07-08 33.5 0.494 0.258 0.715 3.2 6.0 0.8 2.38 18.8
09-10 32.3 0.490 0.333 0.765 2.4 5.9 0.6 2.73 17.2

And tell me now he is the reason why the Spurs are sucking this season !!!
He has a bad year, i am totally agree with that.
But he is not as awful as some people claims it. And he is playing better the last 10 games...
Just sayin'.

[Sean Cagney]

GOODBYE, if he plays and ruins our next year as well being all hurt up then he should be traded for what you can get (Something good hopefully).

[Mel_13]

He has a bad year, i am totally agree with that.


His bad year is due to a series of nagging injuries, most prominently plantar fasciitis. Plantar facsiitis can only be fully healed by several months of rest.

I don't see how a reasonable person can ignore this. Tony needs to rest this summer or next year will a repeat of this one. Tony will still be a very good player, but he will not be able to perform at his very best.

If he's not willing to take simple measures to ensure the greatest probability of maximum performance, then the Spurs should get the most value possible in a trade.

[VI_Massive]

Last year there was no Manu and Tim was not healthy at the end of the season. Tony carried the team most of the time, so it was not a "normal" year.

So remove the 2008-09 season and compare the stats of Parker for the last 3 "normal" seasons :


Year MPG FG% 3P% FT% RPG APG SPG TO PPG

06-07 32.5 0.520 0.395 0.783 3.2 5.5 1.1 2.48 18.6
07-08 33.5 0.494 0.258 0.715 3.2 6.0 0.8 2.38 18.8
09-10 32.3 0.490 0.333 0.765 2.4 5.9 0.6 2.73 17.2And tell me now he is the reason why the Spurs are sucking this season !!!
He has a bad year, i am totally agree with that.
But he is not as awful as some people claims it. And he is playing better the last 10 games...
Just sayin'.

Interesting argument. So maybe last year was an aberration? Or maybe Parker got more touches or was more aggressive because of diminished teammates? Parker's usage rate was significantly higher last year than the rest of his career.

But I think a lot of us hoped Parker took it to a next level last year and would keep up that level or even get better over the next 3 or so years. Maybe it was an aberration due to him taking more shots.

[dbreiden83080]

Tony you're just a complete friggin Idiot anymore..

[ElNono]

Just stop with the silly graphs and the fancy tables... Tony Parker is super slow compared to any other year and it's clearly visible if you actually watch the games. He's just not well physically. Be it the planar fasciitis, or whatever else.

He's doing an admirable job, but it's obvious he's pretty far from being what we need him to be.

[Vic Petro]

Anyone who is excited about rebuilding the team around a PG in his 30's whose game relies on quickness is nuts. You cannot rebuild around Tony.

[dbreiden83080]

Anyone who is excited about rebuilding the team around a PG in his 30's whose game relies on quickness is nuts. You cannot rebuild around Tony.

You were never gonna be able to build around him. A healthy Tony is a good all star level player. I don't think anyone has ever really viewed him as a great player. He's no Isiah Thomas..

[ducks]

manu cost the spurs titles not tp

manu was the one that had that stupid foul in the playoffs
and the last 2 years was hurt

I do not approve tp for playing for france
but I also do not agree any nba player should play for the usa and their own country players

[Vic Petro]

You were never gonna be able to build around him. A healthy Tony is a good all star level player. I don't think anyone has ever really viewed him as a great player. He's no Isiah Thomas..

I think there are a lot of people here who viewed Tony as a great player, and some that probably still do.

[lefty]

OH Jeez shit !!!!

Bad Manu ! Bad Tony !


I guess you were all pissed when Team USA won the Gold in Beijing, thanks to thepresence of their best players.

And it's ok if Gasol bros. or Caledron or Hedo or Yao play for their respective countries.

But TP and Manu are the only ones who are wrong


Fucking hypocrits....................................

[tp2021]

OH Jeez shit !!!!

Bad Manu ! Bad Tony !


I guess you were all pissed when Team USA won the Gold in Beijing, thanks to thepresence of their best players.

And it's ok if Gasol bros. or Caledron or Hedo or Yao play for their respective countries.

But TP and Manu are the only ones who are wrong


Fucking hypocrits....................................

Um, if other players playing for their NT negatively affected the Spurs, we would care. What are you thinking?

[lefty]

Um, if other players playing for their NT negatively affected the Spurs, we would care. What are you thinking?
Not convinced yet.....

[ducks]

I care because it effects the quality of the nba

[Shastafarian]

but I also do not agree any nba player should play for the usa and their own country players

A ducks classic.

[sonic21]

non-issue

[spurtech09]

are you kidding me?

[ElNono]

Having not played since Feb. 8, Parker said he was surprised the injury began to flare up on him late in the game against the Pacers, and cast his availability for tonight's game at Philadelphia in doubt.

Parker likely will be a game-time decision.

:pctoss

[Whisky Dog]

Parker is bitch made, but trading him wouldn't make much sense unless you could get some real value. When he's an expiring next year it'll be interesting to see what he could bring.

I knew as soon as he got caught up in all of the celebrity and Eva bullshit that he was only about Hollywood and France and didn't give a shit about the Spurs.

[Whisky Dog]

Parker is bitch made, but trading him wouldn't make much sense unless you could get some real value. When he's an expiring next year it'll be interesting to see what he could bring.

I knew as soon as he got caught up in all of the celebrity and Eva bullshit that he was only about Hollywood and France and didn't give a shit about the Spurs.

[timvp]

I knew as soon as he got caught up in all of the celebrity and Eva bullshit that he was only about Hollywood and France and didn't give a shit about the Spurs.

:lol I'm butthurt too but let's not go too far. In that time span, TP has two rings, three All-Star appearances, a Finals MVP and an All-NBA selection. He raised his game like three or four levels since "going Hollywood".

[baseline bum]

OH Jeez shit !!!!

Bad Manu ! Bad Tony !


I guess you were all pissed when Team USA won the Gold in Beijing, thanks to thepresence of their best players.

And it's ok if Gasol bros. or Caledron or Hedo or Yao play for their respective countries.

But TP and Manu are the only ones who are wrong


Fucking hypocrits....................................

While I don't especially like Spurs players playing on their national teams, I can deal with it. But what I cannot fucking understand is playing on your national team when you have an injury like plantar fasciitis that only seems to heal after months of rest.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

What is very very sad is that we may have seen Tony Parker's peak in the 2008-2009 season.

And all things considered, he is capable of so so much more.

[J_Paco]

Does the idiot see how NT obligations have hurt both Duncan and Ginobili during their primes??? Could the guy really be selfish enough to jeopardize another season with injuries do to overplaying/overworking himself, especially when it involves one of the last two seasons with Timmy as his teammate? I love Tony Parker as a player, but if he choices his NT over getting healthy for next season, he should be moved immediately.

[Capt Bringdown]

Have fun in the Eurotrash leagues, frenchie.

[dbreiden83080]

I think there are a lot of people here who viewed Tony as a great player, and some that probably still do.

I define great as legendary hall of famers.. Tony was never that. He might get in the hall of fame but he'll never be seen as one of the best PG's of all time.. He's not even in the conversation for best PG of his generation.. He's a very good player who has had an all star level playing career and got to play on some great Spurs teams..

[Vic Petro]

I define great as legendary hall of famers.. Tony was never that. He might get in the hall of fame but he'll never be seen as one of the best PG's of all time.. He's not even in the conversation for best PG of his generation.. He's a very good player who has had an all star level playing career and got to play on some great Spurs teams..

No clearly he's not that. But when I say you can't build around him, I just mean you aren't winning a title if he is the best player on your team.

[gilmor]

I define great as legendary hall of famers.. Tony was never that. He might get in the hall of fame but he'll never be seen as one of the best PG's of all time.. He's not even in the conversation for best PG of his generation.. He's a very good player who has had an all star level playing career and got to play on some great Spurs teams..

Man, who gives a fuck if he is not the best PG of all time..

For that matter, who gives a fuck if TD is the best PF of all time if we fail to make the playoffs this season..

[benefactor]

Those who are defending Parker in this decision seem to be missing the point that has been stressed repeatedly....PF does not heal without rest, and lots of it. Most reasonable people, including myself, have no issue with players playing for thier country. However, that player is being grossly irresponsible if they decide to play when the only way to recover from the injury they have is to REST.

Parker playing this summer all but guarantees that he will be limited once again next season.

[Muser]

Those who are defending Parker in this decision seem to be missing the point that has been stressed repeatedly....PF does not heal without rest, and lots of it. Most reasonable people, including myself, have no issue with players playing for thier country. However, that player is being grossly irresponsible if they decide to play when the only way to recover from the injury they have is to REST.

Parker playing this summer all but guarantees that he will be limited once again next season.

Nailed it.

[Bambililos]

I still don't think he'll play either... that would be very stupid.

[TJastal]

That SJax/Biedrins for TP/Finley blockbuster ain't looking too bad now huh?

:lol

[024]

it would be killing his own career in the nba to play over the summer, at least with the spurs. parker is smart enough to not play. not having the summer to rest his already high mileage body is a detriment to the team. he will most likely be out the door if he even attempts to play with the national team. i just wish ginobili and parker figured all this out before adding even more miles to their body.

[hsxvvd]

Off-Season sign and trade bait.

Hill is ready for a starting gig.

[benefactor]

That SJax/Biedrins for TP/Finley blockbuster ain't looking too bad now huh?

:lol

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yz5be8c

[exstatic]

OH Jeez shit !!!!

Bad Manu ! Bad Tony !


I guess you were all pissed when Team USA won the Gold in Beijing, thanks to thepresence of their best players.

And it's ok if Gasol bros. or Caledron or Hedo or Yao play for their respective countries.

But TP and Manu are the only ones who are wrong


Fucking hypocrits....................................

The happiest moment of my Spur fandom was hearing Tim say "Fuck FIBA". I don't like it when any of them play. Gasol? Injuries. Yao? You really think he has a choice whether he plays or not? As for the Americans, I think you'll see a change just in time for the 2012 Olympics. The big names won't play any more. USA Basketball is totally in bed with the NBA, and the players will be angry enough after the lockout to boycott.

People talk a lot about Tony and Manu, because they play for the Spurs. Duh. It's a Spurs forum, and their constant injuries are a Spurs issue.

[TJastal]

That one looks pretty good too, Benefactor. :toast

You think there's a chance the grizz would have done that earlier in year before it came out that Parker had planar fascitis?

[benefactor]

They might have, but the Spurs wouldn't. I came up with it mostly because of the rumors that Memphis was shopping Mayo and Conley before the deadline.

[TJastal]

They might have, but the Spurs wouldn't. I came up with it mostly because of the rumors that Memphis was shopping Mayo and Conley before the deadline.

Wow, didn't hear that they were getting shopped. I thought Mayo was the future of the franchise. What happened?

This is pure speculation, but maybe this is just the "prelude" so when the lakers swoop in and trade for Conley/Mayo next year they will use the same excuse as the Gasol trade.. "Oh, OJ wasn't happy in Memphis and wanted out, yadda yadda"

[Agloco]

“No, this summer I have the national team,” Parker said, somewhat surprisingly.

Oh.

I took a moment to clarify, but the answer stuck. Unless Parker’s body simply quits, he plans to play this summer.

http://www.la2day.com/images/page_image/Motherfucker.jpg

[Spurs Brazil]

Go play TP, so maybe you can have a great game like tonight or a great season like this one.

[Brazil]

BUMP. Big lol

[Mel_13]

Perhaps one of our French friends can provide a better translation than Google. This part is on topic:

Out for six weeks due to a fractured right hand TP is questioned whether "the injury could change anything in his decision to play with the team of France this summer."

"No, nothing changes, I still think playing. "

http://www.basketusa.com/news/frenchies/27914/tony-parker-ne-fait-pas-une-croix-sur-lequipe-de-france/

[spurtech09]

parker is a idiot...trade him for some chris paul

[Cherry]

:corn:

[nkdlunch]

well unfortunately I see Parker being traded this offseason. After all, Spurs front office needs to put the blame on someone.

[ffadicted]

Tony, fffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuu.....

Come on dude, I know the hand had nothing to do with the NT, but fucking rest I don't want to see you end up like my main man Manu (although this season certainly has been just as shitty)

[Whisky Dog]

Parker is such a bitch. I can't stand this fucker now a days

[ginobili fan]

Nah...
I can't believe it...:wow
Don't understand the guy once he says he will not play because of the next year contract and this year bad experience, then he says he still don't know and now that he has his worst injury of his career he says he wants to play for FNT ?
Is he crazy or what ? Or does he read spurstalk and he wants to play with us ?:(

[eric365]

At the end of the article, the journalist says that in case of short playoff run, TP will have enough time to rest and will probably go in Turkey.

But in case of deep playoff run, it seems likely to be without TP in Turkey

[spursfan09]

Tony Parker you are pissing me off. You better not play! Seriously, he is my fave player, but if Spurs have to trade him then so be it. I can buy a George Hill jersey, and season tickets next year and actually get to watch him play.

[Brazil]

Guys I don't know it doesn't make sense, last week he said probably no, now it is I'm still thinking on it.

The journalist is saying "at the end of an interview" but I didn't see this interview and there is no link on this article.

Anyway IMO he won't play: most important is the olympics and I think that most of the nba french players won't go.

[sonic21]

Perhaps one of our French friends can provide a better translation than Google. This part is on topic:

Out for six weeks due to a fractured right hand TP is questioned whether "the injury could change anything in his decision to play with the team of France this summer."

"No, nothing changes, I still think playing. "

http://www.basketusa.com/news/frenchies/27914/tony-parker-ne-fait-pas-une-croix-sur-lequipe-de-france/

Tony parker doesn't rule out to play this summer:

Out for six weeks because of a broken hand TP is asked about wether or not « this injury could change anything about his decision to play with the NT this summer ».

« No, that doesn't change anything, i'm still thinking about playing. »
Now we know for sure, the Spurs PG want to go to turkey even though nothing is decided yet. But after a season with a lot of injuries and a tired body, will he really want to go in a few months ? Will the spurs let him go another summer?



They also think the chance of parker playing this summer will increase if he's 100% and the spurs don't go far in the PO.

[Mel_13]

Tony parker doesn't rule out to play this summer:

Out for six weeks because of a broken hand TP is asked about wether or not « this injury could change anything about his decision to play with the NT this summer ».

« No, that doesn't change anything, i'm still thinking about playing. »
Now we know for sure, the Spurs PG want to go to turkey even though nothing is decided yet. But after a season with a lot of injuries and a tired body, will he really want to go in a few months ? Will the spurs let him go another summer?



They also think the chance of parker playing this summer will increase if he's 100% and the spurs don't go far in the PO.

thanks

[Johnny RIngo]

If Parker plays this summer, I wouldn't object to SA shopping him around the league. Playing for France seems to be higher on his list of priorities than winning another 'ship so let him be someone else's problem.

[polandprzem]

Good for Parker

[spursfan09]

Yup Good for Parker, and better for Spurs that they know his intentions and can plan around that.

[polandprzem]

Free world my ass :)

[spurs10]

I'm guessing his comments are more 'never say never' in design. TP is beat to hell and probably is smart enough not to throw the best years of his career down the drain, as he's done with most of this season. All this will indeed be a blessing in disguise, if he comes back rested and fit for the playoffs. It's rhythm that concerns me....