The Spurs have traded Theo Ratliff to Charlotte, source tells Y! Sports.

[ace3g]

per Woj on Twitter!!

[Kuestmaster]

WojYahooNBA (http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA)
The Spurs have traded Theo Ratliff to Charlotte, source tells Y! Sports.

[galvatron3000]

Did we get Stephen Jackson ?

[SenorSpur]

For what?

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Ugh

[DBMethos]

For what?

[Spurstro]

Of course...he was never mentioned in trade talks.

[Spurtacus]

Gerald Wallace!

[benefactor]

Not seeing the update from Wojo.

[tp2021]

The one big on our team besides Tim who can block a damn shot

[Mr. Body]

Wha--?

[ace3g]

no updates yet, keep looking at twitter

[DBMethos]

I saw it...

[024]

link?

[Mr. Body]

Wha---?

[benefactor]

Ok...there it is.

[Chomag]

What, what!?!?! God just when you thinkk things can't get any crazier on this team.

For what!?! I hope this isn't true becuase we just got ride of our only shot blocker other then Tim that is.

So we go from an undersized team to an even more undersized team?

[DBMethos]

He was too tall...need someone smaller.

[Spurtacus]

http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/64857/20100218/spurs_trade_ratliff_to_charlotte/

I'm guessing its for a draft pick.

[024]

probably for cap relief. ratliff isn't making enough to get any significant player.

[SCdac]

Did we even get a player back, I wonder. Or just a move for cap relief, etc.

[Reeko_Htown]

you probably traded for Tyson Chandler.

[Mr. Body]

Must've said something to hurt Matt Bonner's feelings.

[lurker23]

Anxious to see the details on this. If it's a straight salary dump, why Theo and not Mahinmi? Interesting.

[gospursgojas]

Thomas was traded to char....hmmm

[mexicanjunior]

WojYahooNBA (http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA)
The Spurs have traded Theo Ratliff to Charlotte, source tells Y! Sports.

At least Theo will be given some PT somewhere...shame that Pop couldn't understand that he actually helps defense.

[tp2021]

He was too tall...need someone smaller.

:depressed

[BacktoBasics]

This is fucking bullshit

[Amuseddaysleeper]

It's probably for draft picks

[Mr. Body]

Did we even get a player back, I wonder. Or just a move for cap relief, etc.

Probably for cap relief only.

[robot89]

Diop, DeSagana (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3518)

[Chomag]

So much for saving him for the playoffs. Maybe thats the plan though... No playoffs so why worry abotu having him for a series with the Lakers :downspin:

[Spurtacus]

http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/64857/20100218/spurs_trade_ratliff_to_charlotte/

draft pick?

[gospursgojas]

Tyrus Thomas was traded to charr....hmmm

[benefactor]

Strange. They would have saved more money dumping Ian.

[DBMethos]

But...but...Pop was saving him for the playoffs!

[tp2021]

So much for saving him for the playoffs. Maybe thats the plan though... No playoffs so why worry abotu having him for a series with the Lakers :downspin:

Good point

[kobyz]

why Charlotte need another center?

[I. Hustle]

lol at people complaining about us losing a shot blocker. He isn't blocking many shots from the bench. Pop never plays the dude. I am not saying he can't ball just that he never got a real opportunity.

[Muser]

wtf

[ace3g]

only thing contract wise that works is Stephen Graham for Ratliff

[Wombatzu]

lol at people complaining about us losing a shot blocker. He isn't blocking many shots from the bench. Pop never plays the dude. I am not saying he can't ball just that he never got a real opportunity.

just the threat of being able to block a shot meant he had to go...

[Mr. Body]

Can we get Melvin Ely back? How about Felton Spencer.

[SCdac]

Chandler
Mohammed
Diop
Ratliff

talk about shot blocking

[gospursgojas]

Maybe the Tyrus to charlotte trade included the spurs...

[SenorSpur]

lol at people complaining about us losing a shot blocker. He isn't blocking many shots from the bench. Pop never plays the dude. I am not saying he can't ball just that he never got a real opportunity.

Sure he does. He's got long arms and still has hops. :lol

[Parker2112]

For a washing machine? (to quote a previous post...)

[Spurtacus]

Tyrus Thomas was traded to charr....hmmm

Would take more than just Ratliff to get Tyrus.

[panic giraffe]

so now on paper the median height of the spurs is like what 6'3"?

[Brazil]

He was too tall...need someone smaller.

:lmao :depressed

[Wombatzu]

Augustin maybe?

[Chomag]

I guess He just got in the way of Pops huge plans for Small ball. I wonder if Pop is going for the record for the smallest line up in history...

[gameFACE]

The only player they have whose salary matches is beanpole skinny Alexis Ajinca. Unless there are picks or cash or both involved.

[nkdlunch]

Splitter is coming over!!!!

[ffadicted]

Obviously for a future second rounder, fucking fail on the spurs part this trade deadline

[Kool Bob Love]

But...but...Pop was saving him for the playoffs!


:depressed

[Texas_Ranger]

:(

[robot89]

Charlotte's DJ Augustin is going to San Antonio, source says.

http://www.bobcatsplanet.com/vb/forumdisplay.php?f=6

[Brazil]

The only player they have whose salary matches is beanpole skinny Alexis Ajinca. Unless there are picks or cash or both involved.

Yes you're right Alexis is coming to SA to be a Ian bench friend, they will have the possibility to discuss in french! good move pop, clever coach.

[robot89]

http://www.bobcatsplanet.com/vb/forumdisplay.php?f=6
Charlotte's DJ Augustin is going to San Antonio, source says.

[Brazil]

Augustin maybe?

apparently good call, salaries match ?

[gospursgojas]

Charlotte's DJ Augustin is going to San Antonio, source says.

http://www.bobcatsplanet.com/vb/forumdisplay.php?f=6


Meh...maybe they can stack him and bogans on top of each other to total a 7 footer

[murpjf88]

This is probably so they can sign a cheap ass free agent backup pg. Just freeing up a roster spot.

[afireinside20]

Boy, this whole season has been such a disappointment and just plain weird. Then again, we still have the rest of the second half of the season to get back into it, come on Spurs!!!!

[Texas_Ranger]

Charlotte's DJ Augustin is going to San Antonio, source says.

http://www.bobcatsplanet.com/vb/forumdisplay.php?f=6

But, but, but he's too young!!!:wow

[mudyez]

But...but...Pop was saving him for the playoffs!

I dont see the problem...He will need the rest when going against D12 and Shaq!

You know...Larry and Pop are good buddies and it was all planned since last summer...:hat

[Wombatzu]

apparently good call, salaries match ?

salaries don't match... Augustin is 2.7 for two years. so someone else is going too.

if this is true, i like it.

[EricB]

WOW Agustin is a solid point guard.

If the Spurs got him for Ratliff, thats a solid move!

[Muser]

Augustin?

[Truckules]

Charlotte's DJ Augustin is going to San Antonio, source says.

http://www.bobcatsplanet.com/vb/forumdisplay.php?f=6


YAY! More small ball!

[benefactor]

Charlotte's DJ Augustin is going to San Antonio, source says.

http://www.bobcatsplanet.com/vb/forumdisplay.php?f=6
Won't work straight up. There's got to be more.

[ffadicted]

Charlotte's DJ Augustin is going to San Antonio, source says.

http://www.bobcatsplanet.com/vb/forumdisplay.php?f=6

Hmm, I'd be pretty happy if that were true, but that has to involve other players

[Chomag]

Charlotte's DJ Augustin is going to San Antonio, source says.

http://www.bobcatsplanet.com/vb/forumdisplay.php?f=6

For a 6 footer... I guess bonner wont have to start at center after all. We just got a new one!:downspin:

[Nathan Explosion]

Every time I click on the link on Yahoo sports, it tells me about the Jazz trade.

[Duncan2177]

Meh...maybe they can stack him and bogans on top of each other to total a 7 footer

:lol

[Spurtacus]

Disappointed to lose a big man, but Augustin has a ton of potential.

[StoneBuddha]

http://www.bobcatsplanet.com/vb/forumdisplay.php?f=6
Charlotte's DJ Augustin is going to San Antonio, source says.

Is that true? That's a pice with potential, though we have now hit our quota of short guards on the team. I hope this is true.

[SCdac]

Ratliff and Haislip gone, Hairston in the D-League, Mahinmi excluded from the rotation, Jefferson and McDyess our front office was probably listening to offers for... this season has not been the greatest, to say the least.

[nkdlunch]

nifty move

[Brazil]

Assuming they find a spot for Mason, maybe the idea is to have parker and hill in the starting 5 and Augustin coming off the bench with gino to lead the second unit.

[2Cleva]

The San Antonio Spurs have traded center Theo Ratliff(notes) to the Charlotte Bobcats in a salary-cap dump, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.

Ratliff was making the league minimum $1.3 million, which lessens the Spurs’ luxury-tax bill.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Akv2c6BXVTjXK_7MX970RqG8vLYF?slug=ys-spurstrade021810&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

[2Cleva]

The San Antonio Spurs have traded center Theo Ratliff(notes) to the Charlotte Bobcats in a salary-cap dump, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.

Ratliff was making the league minimum $1.3 million, which lessens the Spurs’ luxury-tax bill.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Akv2c6BXVTjXK_7MX970RqG8vLYF?slug=ys-spurstrade021810&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

[Truckules]

Hmm, I'd be pretty happy if that were true, but that has to involve other players

Bogans and Hairston maybe?

[scottspurs]

The only possible trade was for Stephan Graham or Derrick Brown. My guess would be it was for no player just a conditional second round pick.

[024]

augustin has potential. he'll be a solid backup pg for now and maybe starting quality later. only concern is his size.

[Mr. Body]

Source says = some dude on a fansite.

:lol

[Chomag]

Someone should have told him not to wear shoes and don't dunk....

[4down]

We picked up future considerations

[benefactor]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ylc8yxq
:downspin:

[Truckules]

CIA Pop strikes again!

[ace3g]

if you go to the Bobcat's yahoo sports page it says

Spurs send Ratliff to Bobcats
February 18, 2010 (Yahoo! Sports)

The Bobcats get a veteran big man in Theo Ratliff while the Spurs get luxury-tax relief...

but the link to the article doesn't work yet

[Mr. Body]

You guys are fucking idiots. DJ Augustin... you guys are idiots.

[SenorSpur]

We picked up future considerations

Those considerations should be first dibs on Tyrus Thomas this summer.

[mudyez]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ylc8yxq
:downspin:

I knew someone would go this way!

[024]

it looks like a straight up salary dump. salaries don't match, more players would have to be involved and only ratliff was mentioned. spurs probably get a future top 50 protected 2nd round pick.

[Nathan Explosion]

The San Antonio Spurs have traded center Theo Ratliff(notes) to the Charlotte Bobcats in a salary-cap dump, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.

Ratliff was making the league minimum $1.3 million, which lessens the Spurs’ luxury-tax bill.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ys-spurstrade021810&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

[Mr. Body]

Morons. The lot of ya.

[benefactor]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Akv2c6BXVTjXK_7MX970RqG8vLYF?slug=ys-spurstrade021810&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Spurs owning the league at the last second.

[Obstructed_View]

I hope they traded him for a kick to the fucking nuts. I know who I want to kick.

[gmanrulz]

the person that wrote it was for augustin said he was joking

[Nathan Explosion]

Was a salary dump. Nothing more.

[Creation88]

that's the white flag. we give up the one fucking guy that could help Tim in the interior to save money.

fucking moronic.

[Mr. Body]

the person that wrote it was for augustin said he was joking

Seriously. Larry Brown likes Augustin a lot. People here have shit for brains.

[angelbelow]

gotta be cap relief..

[mudyez]

I'm glad for Peter Holt, that he at least could save some few dollars!

[Brazil]

so theo is gone for nothing... man I loved this trade deadline so much fun, ty, amare, cp3.... and then theo to the cats for lowering luxury tax... lol

[sabar]

At least its a lateral move :lol

[Texas_Ranger]

Why the fuck didn't they release Bonner for the fucking salary dump.

[G-Nob]

Good to see we're making ourselves better

[Wombatzu]

Seriously. Larry Brown likes Augustin a lot. People here have shit for brains.

people just wanted something to happen.

everyone can go back to being realistic now... and that's going to be a lot of fun.

[Truckules]

Why the fuck didn't they release Bonner for the fucking salary dump.

He's an important piece to the title run.

[MrFundamental]

... cp3....
Paul was never on the table.

[rayray2k8]

should l even bother responding? oh, l guess l already did..

[Brazil]

Paul was never on the table.

for parker at least apparently they tried :lol

[JR3]

I'm glad for Peter Holt, that he at least could save some few dollars!

I am glad too.. especially since theo was not even playing.

[ffadicted]

Well, at least now we know Holt is pissed lol

[timvp]

I like it. Ratliff wasn't going to be helpful. Now there is actually room for Mahinmi on the active roster.

Small but totally surprising move. Instead of salary dumping Mahinmi, they made room for him.

I like it.

[Wombatzu]

so theo is gone for nothing... man I loved this trade deadline so much fun, ty, amare, cp3.... and then theo to the cats for lowering luxury tax... lol

well, the Spurs made their moves in the off-season, they didn't work, and now they're just trying to clean up a little.

[Boss]

Great we lose even more depth at Center. Bad day for Spurs fans

[SenorSpur]

so theo is gone for nothing... man I loved this trade deadline so much fun, ty, amare, cp3.... and then theo to the cats for lowering luxury tax... lol

What a freakin' letdown.

It's not hard to understand though. This whole thing is going South fast. Be that as it may, they're obviously looking to "cut back" on the payroll to minimize the luxury tax implications. As aggressively as the FO worked and spent to improve the roster this summer, now that those changes have failed, they're obviously moving just as aggressively to shave down the payroll.

[MrFundamental]

for parker at least apparently they tried :lol
Sure, I'm guessing they "tried" to get Lebron too ;)

[SCdac]

Great we lose even more depth at Center. Bad day for Spurs fans

Wait, we have centers? :lol

[EricB]

I like it. Ratliff wasn't going to be helpful. Now there is actually room for Mahinmi on the active roster.

Small but totally surprising move. Instead of salary dumping Mahinmi, they made room for him.

I like it.


Saves Holt money, opens up a spot for the saviour Mahinmi, win win for everyone.

[SenorSpur]

Great we lose even more depth at Center. Bad day for Spurs fans

Maybe this means Pop is going to dust off Ian and give him some court time - NOT!

I hope I'm wrong and it turns out that Ian DOES have a future here. If so, I like the move.

[VBM]

I'm fine with saving some cash at Ratliff's expense. Dyess has shown signs of turning things around, and hopefully Mahinmi emerges from the bench at some point down the line...

[mudyez]

so theo is gone for nothing... man I loved this trade deadline so much fun, ty, amare, cp3.... and then theo to the cats for lowering luxury tax... lol

yeah...not exactely getting pau gasol for a bag of chips and an don mossi baseball card!

hope theo will do well under larry!

[Mr. Body]

Why the fuck didn't they release Bonner for the fucking salary dump.

Because of man-love. That's why.

[Chomag]

Why the fuck didn't they release Bonner for the fucking salary dump.

Because he is the Spurs starting center, as laughable as that sounds.:downspin:


:depressed

[nkdlunch]

Maybe this means Pop is going to dust off Ian and give him some court time - NOT!

Ian at least will play on back2backs

[timvp]

Leave it to the Spurs to do the opposite of what was expected. You think big move and/or dump Mahinmi. They make a small move to allow Mahinmi to suit up for games.

At least Mahinmi actually will have a chance to earn minutes. You can't earn minutes in a sport coat.

[EricB]

:lol Emo Spurs fan goes even more Emo.

They open a spot for Mahinmi and they still aren't happy.

[Mr. Body]

Leave it to the Spurs to do the opposite of what was expected. You think big move and/or dump Mahinmi. They make a small move to allow Mahinmi to suit up for games.

At least Mahinmi actually will have a chance to earn minutes. You can't earn minutes in a sport coat.

As for what we've seen, Mahinmi has already earned minutes. Hasn't gotten em.

Doubt he'll get them now.

[Brazil]

Sure, I'm guessing they "tried" to get Lebron too ;)

of course but in the lbj case we haven't seen 5 threads of 250 posts each like for the cp3 vs. tony stuff on ST:rollin

[Mr. Body]

:lol Emo Spurs fan goes even more Emo.

They open a spot for Mahinmi and they still aren't happy.

You're the chowderhead who thought they were trading for Augustin.

[SCdac]

Open a spot for Mahinmi?

I believe that when I see it.

[timvp]

I wonder if the Spurs could have dumped either Ratliff or Mahinmi and they picked Ratliff. That would be somewhat surprising.

[benefactor]

I doubt that Ian will get any PT out of this. Nothing since his New Jersey game has indicated that he is going to get anywhere near the rotation. It's a straight salary dump.

[gospursgojas]

Ian better fucking play tonight!

[MrFundamental]

Great we lose even more depth at Center. Bad day for Spurs fans
Since Ratliff and his 31 DNPs were a pivotal part of the rotation...:rolleyes

[Brazil]

What a freakin' letdown.

It's not hard to understand though. This whole thing is going South fast. Be that as it may, they're obviously looking to "cut back" on the payroll to minimize the luxury tax implications. As aggressively as the FO worked and spent to improve the roster this summer, now that those changes have failed, they're obviously moving just as aggressively to shave down the payroll.

sadly the thing is : season is over, time to limit the financial impacts of this whole failed summer

[EricB]

Leave it to the Spurs to do the opposite of what was expected. You think big move and/or dump Mahinmi. They make a small move to allow Mahinmi to suit up for games.

At least Mahinmi actually will have a chance to earn minutes. You can't earn minutes in a sport coat.


Its all up to Ian now (if he plays in the games that is...)

[timvp]

Open a spot for Mahinmi?

I believe that when I see it.
There's no choice now. Mahinmi has to suit up. The Spurs have 13 players and Hairston is in Austin.

[Chomag]

Leave it to the Spurs to do the opposite of what was expected. You think big move and/or dump Mahinmi. They make a small move to allow Mahinmi to suit up for games.

At least Mahinmi actually will have a chance to earn minutes. You can't earn minutes in a sport coat.

That or it frees up more minutes for Finley at the 4. :lol

[Wombatzu]

I wonder if the Spurs could have dumped either Ratliff or Mahinmi and they picked Ratliff. That would be somewhat surprising.

Larry Brown likes Ratliff. Spurs save a few bucks. That's all that's going on.

[EricB]

Ian better fucking play tonight!


I hope he doesn't play tonight.

[Duncan2177]

There goes the plan out the window of putting Ratliff on Bynum or Gasol in the playoffs. Way to go Pop Mr.shit for brains. :pop::pctoss

[Spurs Brazil]

I'd rather keep him
Pop will play Finley at C before playing Ian

[lefty]

Bring back Jax :depressed

[Bukefal]

Hmm, I'd be pretty happy if that were true, but that has to involve other players

That BS I think. Never is it stated except for that forum, which a guy says he was just joking.

[Truckules]

I wonder if the Spurs could have dumped either Ratliff or Mahinmi and they picked Ratliff. That would be somewhat surprising.

Larry Brown probably wanted Ratliff more.

[Mr. Body]

There's no choice now. Mahinmi has to suit up. The Spurs have 13 players and Hairston is in Austin.

They're designing a Spurs uniform as we speak that is actually just a suit.

[Ditty]

why couldnt we trade finley for salary dump and get a cash for him..did we even get like a 2nd pick or something?

[benefactor]

:lol Emo Spurs fan goes even more Emo.

They open a spot for Mahinmi and they still aren't happy.
What has happened since January 10th that validates this assumption?

[Brazil]

Leave it to the Spurs to do the opposite of what was expected. You think big move and/or dump Mahinmi. They make a small move to allow Mahinmi to suit up for games.

At least Mahinmi actually will have a chance to earn minutes. You can't earn minutes in a sport coat.

Considering season is over, why the spurs would give PT to Ian ? If he plays well a lot of teams are going to offer "big" money, he is FA next year right ?

[SCdac]

There's no choice now. Mahinmi has to suit up. The Spurs have 13 players and Hairston is in Austin.

Point taken... I'm still won't believe he's actually a part of the rotation this season, until I see it... I'm not saying it won't happen (would love for it to happen), but with Pop's love for small-ball, I don't think it's guaranteed.

[lefty]

From Rotoworld.com:

Theo Ratliff: Ratliff heading to Spurs


:lmao :rollin


http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/playerbreakingnews.asp?sport=NBA&id=367&line=130013&spln=1

[gospursgojas]

I hope he doesn't play tonight.

:lol

Ian better play tomorrow night :king

[FvckMavs]

This is actually a bad move. Who guards Duncan at practice now?

Fin, as usual.

[Spurtacus]

Ratliff barely played. Mahinmi steps in now. I doubt he gets much playing time unless we lose a big man to injury.

[EricB]

:lol

Ian better play tomorrow night :king


Doubtfull, but we shall see.

He will be in uniform for the rest of the season thats for sure.

[ace3g]

have to love getting a twitter update that says Spurs trade Ratliff to the Bobcats, but there is no "for so and so" to the Spurs

[benefactor]

I'd rather have Hairston in uniform.

[Truckules]

From Rotoworld.com:

Theo Ratliff: Ratliff heading to Spurs


:lmao :rollin


http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/playerbreakingnews.asp?sport=NBA&id=367&line=130013&spln=1

:rollin:rollin:rollin

[024]

so mahinmi will now get ratliff's mintes? he will get all zero of his minutes. that's not a big improvement over the zero minutes he's been getting.

[EricB]

This is actually a bad move. Who guards Duncan at practice now?

Probably Mahinmi.

[gospursgojas]

Doubtfull, but we shall see.

He will be in uniform for the rest of the season thats for sure.

Then I guess its not different than Theo being here.

No real change has been made, so we should expect any change in wins/losses either :(

[Mr. Body]

In the past they've had to give up 2nd round picks and the like to get these days done (Melvin Ely). I wonder if they did that again this year.

[nbascribe]

No email from the front office on this peeps.........

And the Charlotte Observer isn't saying anything about this either yet.....

But we're only an hour and 26 minutes past the deadline...

[SenorSpur]

:lol

Ian better play tomorrow night :king

He'll probably get "late" garbage time minutes. You know, 4th quarter, 30 secs left in a blowout. Just enough time to showcase his skills.

[objective]

all this means is that Hairston gets called up and added to the active roster.

:lol

[Sobe_Kucks]

Great.... so much for the saving him for the play-offs theory ala Rockets and Mutombo. WTF is Pop thinking??? Anyone close to 7' that isn't named Tim Duncan has no business being on this team. No let's go sign us a another 6' 8" Center!

Seriously... WHAT IS YOUR DEAL? :pop:

[benefactor]

all this means is that Hairston gets called up and added to the active roster.

:lol
Works for me.

[Boss]

I think I've heard Ian might have a chance to get some pt before: after Bonner broke his hand, Spurs cutting Haislip. As much as I would like to see giving Ian a shot in the rotation it's probably not going to happen

[EricB]

Then I guess its not different than Theo being here.

No real change has been made, so we should expect any change in wins/losses either :(


The change is theres another roster spot and Mahinmi now has to dress every single game.

[blkroadrunners]

He'll probably get "late" garbage time minutes. You know, 4th quarter, 30 secs left in a blowout. Just enough time to showcase his skills.

...or get fouled out in the process..

[ElNono]

:lol Emo Spurs fan goes even more Emo.

They open a spot for Mahinmi and they still aren't happy.

LOL @ this cat thinking Mahimi is going to be doing anything other than handing out Gatorade bottles...

[gospursgojas]

He'll probably get "late" garbage time minutes. You know, 4th quarter, 30 secs left in a blowout. Just enough time to showcase his skills.

Give the spurs more credit than that...

Spurs prob only lose by 6 or 7, out-rebounded 40-20; tim with 19

[EricB]

LOL @ this cat thinking Mahimi is going to be doing anything other than handing out Gatorade bottles...


He's got more of a shot to contribute now than he did before does he not?


I guess I choose not to be miserable and a total depressed emo.

Go ahead if you guys want to.

[I. Hustle]

Ok so let me get this straight. Ian has to dress and might get a chance to play AAANNNNDDDD we get another draft pick for someone who was just eating nachos at the end of the bench?





Ok I tried to spin it to make it sound positive. sorry

[RiverwalkParade]

He'll probably get "late" garbage time minutes. You know, 4th quarter, 30 secs left in a blowout. Just enough time to showcase his skills.

His skills of fouling 4 times in that 30 second span. Face it, Ian is a foul prone big that can't stay on the court more than 3 minutes at a time, how is that good for team chemistry? He will remain on the bench, the Spurs will have two open roster spots for when players start to get waived and I'm sure we will try another Gooden-esque experiement for the late season push. This just frees up some money for that.

[ElNono]

Well, this is the confirmation we're playing small ball the rest of the season... I'm gonna drink myself to death watching Finley and RJ at PF...

[slick'81]

oh well maybe ian will now get a chance not much but a shot none the less

[benefactor]

LOL @ this cat thinking Mahimi is going to be doing anything other than handing out Gatorade bottles...
12 DNP's in 17 games doesn't lie.....

[Ocotillo]

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n113/thomjohnson/igotarockhq8.jpg

I got a rock.......

[crc21209]

Even if this does open up an active roster spot for Mahinmi and he's basically forced to suit up, chances are Pop still wont play his ass anyway.....:depressed

[timvp]

If nothing else, blowouts will now be more entertaining. We'll be able to extrapolate Mahinmi's two minutes of playing time in a blowout into him being HOFer.

[completely deck]

Well, this is the confirmation we're playing small ball the rest of the season... I'm gonna drink myself to death watching Finley and RJ at PF...

please do. the posting quality here would skyrocket.

[benefactor]

He's got more of a shot to contribute now than he did before does he not?




12 DNP's in 17 games doesn't lie.....

[EricB]

Well, this is the confirmation we're playing small ball the rest of the season... I'm gonna drink myself to death watching Finley and RJ at PF...


How is it confirmation?

[Obstructed_View]

I like it. Ratliff wasn't going to be helpful. Now there is actually room for Mahinmi on the active roster.

Small but totally surprising move. Instead of salary dumping Mahinmi, they made room for him.

I like it.

Betcha a beer this doesn't change his status in the rotation if they don't buy him out.

[EricB]

If nothing else, blowouts will now be more entertaining. We'll be able to extrapolate Mahinmi's two minutes of playing time in a blowout into him being HOFer.


:lol

[Bukefal]

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n113/thomjohnson/igotarockhq8.jpg

I got a rock.......

:lmao

[objective]

Ok so let me get this straight. Ian has to dress and might get a chance to play AAANNNNDDDD we get another draft pick for someone who was just eating nachos at the end of the bench?





Ok I tried to spin it to make it sound positive. sorry

Ian doesn't have to dress. Hairston could just as easily be activated over him, especially if the Pop-Finley trial separtion from last night goes into full-on divorce.

[Chomag]

Nothing to see here. Just Pop freeing up more time for small ball and Finely at the 4.

[EricB]

Betcha a beer this doesn't change his status in the rotation if they don't buy him out.


They are only gonna dress 11?

[ElNono]

He's got more of a shot to contribute now than he did before does he not?

What makes you think that? He's been in the roster before. Plenty of times. What part of this trade REALLY convinces you that Ian is going to have another shot?

And nobody is being emo. We're pretty frustrated because we're a pretty average team right now.

[Mr. Body]

If nothing else, blowouts will now be more entertaining. We'll be able to extrapolate Mahinmi's two minutes of playing time in a blowout into him being HOFer.

This doesn't happen already?

[gospursgojas]

How is it confirmation?

2 players on roster over 6'10

[benefactor]

We're signing Big Z. You heard it here first.

[ChumpDumper]

Considering season is over, why the spurs would give PT to Ian ?Tank the season.

[Ocotillo]

Hairston used to play the 4 in college.

[Spursmania]

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n113/thomjohnson/igotarockhq8.jpg

I got a rock.......


:lmao:lmao

[Obstructed_View]

He's got more of a shot to contribute now than he did before does he not?


I guess I choose not to be miserable and a total depressed emo.

Go ahead if you guys want to.

It's like timvp has a little dumb clone that follows him around and sort of repeats what he says while expressing undying love for Pop at the same time.

Seriously, please try to generate an original thought.

[ElNono]

please do. the posting quality here would skyrocket.

Well, you just changed my mind... I'm actually going to post more now.

And feel free to use the ignore function... :flipoff

[EricB]

2 players on roster over 6'10


Bonner is 6'10
Dyess is 6'10
Duncan 6'11
Mahinmi 7'0


That looks like 4 to me..

[crc21209]

We're signing Big Z. You heard it here first.

No way he doesnt go back to Cleveland...that fossil has been there his whole career.

[Duncan2177]

Props to the cavs and mavs :tu and a big:flipoff to the spurs FO. I feel bad for Duncan he deserves better.

[EricB]

It's like timvp has a little dumb clone that follows him around and sort of repeats what he says while expressing undying love for Pop at the same time.

Seriously, please try to generate an original thought.



How about you posting something original other than pop sucks grumble grumble grumble?

[Bruno]

If it's the only Spurs move, it sucks ass and Spurs are nowhere near a serious contender.

Some vets will also be bought out before the March 1st deadline. This trade could also be a sign that Spurs have some vet PF/C in sight who are better than Ratliff for the 5th PF/C spot.

By doing this trade, Spurs will save slighty more than $1M (if they haven't send some cash).

[ElNono]

How is it confirmation?

We're trading a big man? We're keeping our guards?

Do I have to spell it our for you?

[SenorSpur]

His skills of fouling 4 times in that 30 second span. Face it, Ian is a foul prone big that can't stay on the court more than 3 minutes at a time, how is that good for team chemistry? He will remain on the bench, the Spurs will have two open roster spots for when players start to get waived and I'm sure we will try another Gooden-esque experiement for the late season push. This just frees up some money for that.

I've got news for you. Team chemistry is already questionable because of the bunch of underperforming parts. Improving that will have nothing to do with something as insignificant as what Ian does should he get playing time. This team is on the verge of sliding into draft lottery.

That said, I understand the salary dump, the tax-reduction implications and the opening up of a roster spot. I hope Ian this move will translate into some PT for Ian, but as someone else said earlier, I'll believe it when I see it.

[Spursmania]

http://www.bobcatsplanet.com/vb/forumdisplay.php?f=6
Charlotte's DJ Augustin is going to San Antonio, source says.


Who knows if any of this is true.

[objective]

Bonner is 6'10
Dyess is 6'10
Duncan 6'11
Mahinmi 7'0


That looks like 4 to me..

he used the phrase "over 6'10"

[crc21209]

Bonner is 6'10
Dyess is 6'10
Duncan 6'11
Mahinmi 7'0


That looks like 4 to me..

Unfortunately, Dyess is 6'9....

[benefactor]

Bonner is 6'10
Dyess is 6'10
Duncan 6'11
Mahinmi 7'0


That looks like 4 to me..
Wow, Dice grew an inch since he's been here?

[gameFACE]

If he gets waived maybe thay'll go after Z?

[mudyez]

Lakers got their european center for free, 2 years ago...we basically get ours now!

[EricB]

We're trading a big man? We're keeping our guards?

Do I have to spell it our for you?


Traded a guy that didn't play to begin with.

But again, if you want to sit there and cry and bitch and act like Roger Mason's butt hurt man on the side, go right ahead.

[ElNono]

If nothing else, blowouts will now be more entertaining. We'll be able to extrapolate Mahinmi's two minutes of playing time in a blowout into him being HOFer.

You mean when we get blown out by the good teams? I'm not looking forward to seeing Ian then...

[blkroadrunners]

Wow, Dice grew an inch since he's been here?

He's probably counting the fro.

[Spurs Brazil]

http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblogs/courtside/2010/02/spurs-trade-rat.html

Spurs trade Ratliff for future pick
By Mike Monroe on Feb 18, 10 03:28 PM | Permalink | Comments (0) Save & Share Yahoo! BuzzYahoo! Newsvine del.icio.us Facebook Google Reddit Fark
The NBA's trade deadline nearly came and passed Thursday with the Spurs staying on the sidelines, but a last-minute deal that will send Theo Ratliff to the Charlotte Bobcats was awaiting official NBA approval late Thursday afternoon, according to league sources.

With a flurry of last-minute deals flooding the league's basketball operations department, official approval wasn't expected until Thursday evening. NBA teams are prohibited from discussing deals until they are finalized by the league office.

The Spurs signed Ratliff, a 35-year-old veteran of 15 NBA seasons, to a free agent contract on July 25. He had played in only 21 of 52 games this season, averaging 1.6 points and 1.9 rebounds.

The Spurs are expected to receive a future draft pick from the Bobcats, giving them some relief from the luxury tax they will have to play this summer. Under NBA collective bargaining rules, only $825,497 of Ratliff's veteran minimum salary of $1.3 million counted against their salary cap. Combined with the recent buyout of Marcus Haislip's two-year deal, the Spurs will have saved about $1.7 million in luxury tax payments.

[EricB]

Wow, Dice grew an inch since he's been here?


Listed at 6'10

[benefactor]

If it's the only Spurs move, it sucks ass and Spurs are nowhere near a serious contender.

Some vets will also be bought out before the March 1st deadline. This trade could also be a sign that Spurs have some vet PF/C in sight who are better than Ratliff for the 5th PF/C spot.

By doing this trade, Spurs will save slighty more than $1M (if they haven't send some cash).
This was my next thought after thinking salary dump. They will probably be checking the waiver wire over the next week.

[MB3//]

I was thinking the same thing about big Z. I know I'd rather have him or even Gooden over the Rattler.

[crc21209]

Listed at 6'10

Nope, check again...on Spurs.com Dyess is listed at 6'9...

[benefactor]

Listed at 6'10
Nope.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonio_McDyess
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/antonio_mcdyess/index.html

[objective]

Some vets will also be bought out before the March 1st deadline. This trade could also be a sign that Spurs have some vet PF/C in sight who are better than Ratliff for the 5th PF/C spot.

speaking of vets being bought out . . .

Maybe Finley asks for his release so he can sign with a contender after getting DNP-CD'd for the first time.

[gospursgojas]

Listed at 6'10

but he's not and I said over 6'10 ...Just accept that small ball will be Pop's gameplan

[timvp]

This doesn't happen already?

Yeah but Mahinmi has dressed how many games this year? Like four or five?

I'm not saying Mahinmi will suddenly be in the rotation, but he will at least be available more nights now. And maybe, just maybe, the Spurs will be down and Pop will look down the bench and point to Mahinmi. I doubt it ... but now there's an actual chance.

Or if it's Hairston who gets to dress now ... that's probably even better. Hairston could be useful in certain matchups.

I know the move is mostly a salary dump but the side effect of forcing some youth onto the active roster is a good thing.

[gameFACE]

The Spurs are good about signing someone for cheap late in the season [/last vestige of possibility]

Please let it be more than a rock.

[blkroadrunners]

:lol @ Big Z. David Robinson at this age w/ a beer belly is probably faster and has more foot speed than that bald ex-Cav.

[crc21209]

WojYahooNBA

Ratliff to Charlotte is a salary dump, obviously. Future conditional pick that Spurs will probably never see.
15 minutes ago from web

http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA

Awesome!....Not! :td

[ElNono]

Traded a guy that didn't play to begin with.

He didn't play because we're playing that shitty ass small ball, which actually backs up my point. I see you are finally figuring things on your own.


But again, if you want to sit there and cry and bitch and act like Roger Mason's butt hurt man on the side, go right ahead.

So what if I want to bitch? What are you going to do? Eat me?

[benefactor]

WojYahooNBA

Ratliff to Charlotte is a salary dump, obviously. Future conditional pick that Spurs will probably never see.
15 minutes ago from web

http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA

Awesome!....Not! :td
:flag:

[ElNono]

I was thinking the same thing about big Z. I know I'd rather have him or even Gooden over the Rattler.

Well, BigZ is an over the hill vet, so he definitely has a shot with us...

[Ocotillo]

The Spurs got younger with this trade.

[Sobe_Kucks]

http://www.bobcatsplanet.com/vb/forumdisplay.php?f=6
Charlotte's DJ Augustin is going to San Antonio, source says.


Who knows if any of this is true.

There is no "source" for the DJ Augustine part. It was only speculation on the board. Looks more like it's only for cap relief and maybe a second round pick or somethign of the like. Numbers woul dnever work with DJ for Theo. Theo is only making the veteran minimum.

[ElNono]

The Spurs got younger with this trade.

:lol

[timvp]

Yeah, the Bobcats weren't going to give the Spurs anything tangible for Ratliff. The question is how much cash the Spurs had to include in the deal. Hopefully none but I doubt it.

[ElNono]

WojYahooNBA

Ratliff to Charlotte is a salary dump, obviously. Future conditional pick that Spurs will probably never see.
15 minutes ago from web

http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA

Awesome!....Not! :td

:king

[objective]

And maybe, just maybe, the Spurs will be down and Pop will look down the bench and point to Mahinmi. I doubt it ... but now there's an actual chance.

I think it's more likely that the Spurs will be down, Pop will look to the bench, point to Mahinmi and proclaim loudly while Ian is starting to stand up . . .

"SIT YOUR ASS DOWN! Mason, you're in, and you've got Pau!"

[Chomag]

The Spurs got younger with this trade.

This is true. :lol

[Sisk]

Listed at 6'10

seriously?
seriously?

well, if only we could "list" all our other bigs at 7' we'd be fantastic

too bad players don't play at their LISTED height
:bang

[Bukefal]

The Spurs got younger with this trade.

:rollin

[MrFundamental]

He didn't play because we're playing that shitty ass small ball, which actually backs up my point.
Yes, it's because Pops likes small ball, not that he's a ~37 y/o center with a bad back, that he didn't see playing time. :lol

[ElNono]

Somebody remind me again why did we sign Theo at all?

[MrFundamental]

Somebody remind me again why did we sign Theo at all?
Why not, was worth a shot at the time, now it isn't. Did you really expect him to play 20+ minutes a game?

[objective]

Somebody remind me again why did we sign Theo at all?

To keep Ian inactive.

[ElNono]

Yes, it's because Pops likes small ball, not that he's a ~37 y/o center with a bad back, that he didn't see playing time. :lol

Let's see if Larry Brown plays him...

Again, why it made sense to sign him at all?

[Bruno]

And if Mahinmi hasn't been traded, it's quite in-understandable.

Either Spurs tried to trade him and failed at it or they wanted to keep it.

Mahinmi hasn't been mentioned in a single trade rumor and I think he could have been traded quite easily to the Nets. It doesn't look like Spurs have really try to trade him.

I don't see the point in keeping Ian. It will cost some money and won't help the team short or long term wise. Short term wise, Ian is still raw and would do mistakes. Long term wise, his contract makes the situation extremely complicated.

I'm lost.