Let's talk race...

[The Ressurrected One]

...we haven't done that in a while.

If the beating of Rodney King was racially motivated, why didn't his black passenger get pulled from the car and beat senseless? It's because it had nothing to do with race and everything to do with Rodney King being a punk ass hoodlum that had just led police on an extremely dangerous pursuit that endangered the lives of police and innocent bystanders. They beat him because he was an asshole and they were pumped -- not because he was black.

Making that distinction, early on, could have save a more than few lives, left Reginald Denny with his entire brain, and prevented the destruction of a large swathe of Los Angeles. Unfortunately, Blacks weren't interested in the truth...they had an opportunity to exploit.

It was wrong to beat Rodney King although, it can be argued that since the public rarely saw the entire recording, we really don't know how much of his plight was provoked by him...do we? I mean, why wasn't the passenger similarly treated?

Oh, and O.J. Simpson was guilty and his arrest had nothing to do with being black either.

Discuss...

[mookie2001]

thats dumb RO
even if he was a bigger asshole than Kobe, he didnt deserve a beatdown like that, no matter what the motivation, 4 officers of any race cannot do that to anyone. I'd hope something like that caught on tape would cause uproar in any city around the country. Hopefully not a riot, but when the area or neighborhood of protest or a demonstration or even clusters if crime is treated like a warzone by the same group labled as the enemy, the people involved will respond like there was a war.

[GoldToe]

I thought this was about Nascar.

[Clandestino]

...we haven't done that in a while.

If the beating of Rodney King was racially motivated, why didn't his black passenger get pulled from the car and beat senseless? It's because it had nothing to do with race and everything to do with Rodney King being a punk ass hoodlum that had just led police on an extremely dangerous pursuit that endangered the lives of police and innocent bystanders. They beat him because he was an asshole and they were pumped -- not because he was black.

Making that distinction, early on, could have save a more than few lives, left Reginald Denny with his entire brain, and prevented the destruction of a large swathe of Los Angeles. Unfortunately, Blacks weren't interested in the truth...they had an opportunity to exploit.

It was wrong to beat Rodney King although, it can be argued that since the public rarely saw the entire recording, we really don't know how much of his plight was provoked by him...do we? I mean, why wasn't the passenger similarly treated?

Oh, and O.J. Simpson was guilty and his arrest had nothing to do with being black either.

Discuss...

rodney king was easy.. motherfucker should have stayed down, but he kept fighting and trying to get up. dude has so many drugs in his system he didn't feel anything. fuck rodney king! the black people just love to make everything about race. if it had been a white dude fighting he would have been just as bad...

and the rioting.. it is just dumbasses.. just like all races do it when their fucking team wins a championship..

[The Ressurrected One]

thats dumb RO
even if he was a bigger asshole than Kobe, he didnt deserve a beatdown like that, no matter what the motivation, 4 officers of any race cannot do that to anyone. I'd hope something like that caught on tape would cause uproar in any city around the country. Hopefully not a riot, but when the area or neighborhood of protest or a demonstration or even clusters if crime is treated like a warzone by the same group labled as the enemy, the people involved will respond like there was a war.
I agree it was wrong. But, a white Rodney King would have received the same beating...I've seen it happen; there's just not a National Association for the Advancement of White Criminals to foment hatred and incite violence.

My point was that the race-mongers used it to start a race riot in Los Angeles... Was Rodney King really worth the deaths and destruction wrought in Los Angeles? The guy was a punk ass criminal...as he proved again, later on down the road.

What the race-baiters like that black congresswoman did was much, much worse than what those police officers did. She cause death and destruction by inciting the black community to riot...in fact, most of the deaths were among black citizens and most of the destruction was to black businesses and homes.

She should have been taken out back and shot like a dog for exploiting the situation and exacerbating the problem beyond all reason.

[Clandestino]

I agree it was wrong. But, a white Rodney King would have received the same beating...I've seen it happen; there's just not a National Association for the Advancement of White Criminals to foment hatred and incite violence.

My point was that the race-mongers used it to start a race riot in Los Angeles... Was Rodney King really worth the deaths and destruction wrought in Los Angeles? The guy was a punk ass criminal...as he proved again, later on down the road.

What the race-baiters like that black congresswoman did was much, much worse than what those police officers did. She cause death and destruction by inciting the black community to riot...in fact, most of the deaths were among black citizens and most of the destruction was to black businesses and homes.

She should have been taken out back and shot like a dog for exploiting the situation and exacerbating the problem beyond all reason.

they should have just shot rodney king in the back of the head on the street!

[The Ressurrected One]

they should have just shot rodney king in the back of the head on the street!
At least the videographer might not have had time to get the camera out...

[JohnnyMarzetti]

Looks like RO wants to do some inciting of his own.

Conservative hypocrites. :rolleyes

[The Ressurrected One]

What? Can't have a reasonable discussion on race in here?

[spurster]

I have a hard time with reasonable = Rodney King deserved to be badly beaten.

[Gatita]

I thought the issue with RO had been talked to death...apparently not true.

[Clandestino]

I have a hard time with reasonable = Rodney King deserved to be badly beaten.

he refused to obey orders by the police. he was fighting them, he refused to stay down after being beaten. what should the police have done in that situation?

[ididnotnothat]

The beating was excessive. Period.

The beating continued while no attempts were made to cuff or subdue him.

That is the issue for me. Yes, they were justified in using force but they went overboard.

[Hook Dem]

Rodney would say....Can we all just get along? :lol

[Cant_Be_Faded]

i never heard of another passenger, and this sounds like an argueable point, ressurected one

HOWEVER (even though i know this is absolutely pointless for you cuz you'll give a BS response)

Just TRY to imagine....imagine that rodney king and his passenger were white. Then imagine each of those white racist fuckup cops were blacks. Imagine that, then imagine some suburban soccer mom being across a white apartment complex called the Gables at Town Lake filming the entire incident.

Imagine a tape being televised on national tv of many black cops beating down a white man senseless, treating him like an animal, while the white passenger is left unharmed.

Then imagine those black cops going free, no real consequences.

The result would have been a political upheaval.....because rich whites are too pussy to result to drastic measures like anarchy, which Non-white, non-bush supporters fully believe was necessary to make the government realize "hey, these citizens are not stupid, they know when we are being totally unfair, totally racist, and totally unjust. They aren't stupid"


Do you think poor minimum wage making minorities have the politcal clout and money to make the government realize this in a peaceful way? If you think this, you're wrong. Simple as that. They had no other option.

And if the situation has been reversed, and it had been McClendon Adams beat down by many black cops, theres no way those black cops would have seen the light of day. period.


PERIOD.

Actually, after you comparing a microchip implant to a fucking body peircing, and now voicing your honest opinion about how Rodney King got what he deserved and those cops were right in doing what they did

its unrefutable proof you are blinded by your SUV's, your Conservativeness, and your Bush-Passion. You're a robot man. Your reality has been programed and set in stone for you before you had a chance to decide for youself. I feel sorry for you.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Ressurected one your opinions are still valid, although skewed by outside forces, but even one as yourself must realize the prerequisites for anarchy.....

anarchy just does not happen because people are 'waiting to riot' (paraphrased from clandestino's stupid ass)
and im glad you didnt say something that stupid, but you have to realize anarchy just does not happen by itself

its like blowing up a bubble
its every single milliliter of air that fills it

just cuz the last milliliter bursts the bubble doesnt mean that those past milliliters did not exist....the black community had been totally douched in that time period, and the fact that so many people were ready to riot was a clear slap in the fact that enough was enough...they weren't going to take this bull shit from whites that think like Clandestino any more

if you don't at least give me this youre either
a) racist cuz you believe blacks have the innate need for anarchy (clandestino)
or
b) classist (ok so i made up a word) because you think poor people have the innate need for anarchy

[Clandestino]

Just TRY to imagine....imagine that rodney king and his passenger were white. Then imagine each of those white racist fuckup cops were blacks. Imagine that, then imagine some suburban soccer mom being across a white apartment complex called the Gables at Town Lake filming the entire incident.

Imagine a tape being televised on national tv of many black cops beating down a white man senseless, treating him like an animal, while the white passenger is left unharmed.

Then imagine those black cops going free, no real consequences.

The result would have been a political upheaval.....because rich whites are too pussy to result to drastic measures like anarchy, which Non-white, non-bush supporters fully believe was necessary to make the government realize "hey, these citizens are not stupid, they know when we are being totally unfair, totally racist, and totally unjust. They aren't stupid" too pussy or smarter? what did the riots solve? not a fucking thing except screw up their own environment. smart motherfuckers right??? :lol



Actually, after you comparing a microchip implant to a fucking body peircing, and now voicing your honest opinion about how Rodney King got what he deserved and those cops were right in doing what they did

its unrefutable proof you are blinded by your SUV's, your Conservativeness, and your Bush-Passion. You're a robot man. Your reality has been programed and set in stone for you before you had a chance to decide for youself. I feel sorry for you.

and i think you're a robot pre-programmed to blame everything on race and think you can't do anything in life because the white man will always keep you down. i'm a mexican and i haven't let anyone, white or black or yellow or green, keep me down... some people are doers and some C H O O S E to make excuses and blame others for their life

[Clandestino]

Ressurected one your opinions are still valid, although skewed by outside forces, but even one as yourself must realize the prerequisites for anarchy.....

anarchy just does not happen because people are 'waiting to riot' (paraphrased from clandestino's stupid ass)
and im glad you didnt say something that stupid, but you have to realize anarchy just does not happen by itself

its like blowing up a bubble
its every single milliliter of air that fills it

just cuz the last milliliter bursts the bubble doesnt mean that those past milliliters did not exist....the black community had been totally douched in that time period, and the fact that so many people were ready to riot was a clear slap in the fact that enough was enough...they weren't going to take this bull shit from whites that think like Clandestino any more

if you don't at least give me this youre either
a) racist cuz you believe blacks have the innate need for anarchy (clandestino)
or
b) classist (ok so i made up a word) because you think poor people have the innate need for anarchy

basically what you wrote says that blacks are waiting to riot. in your previous post you said blacks only option was to riot. and that it doesn't happen overnight. therefore, they are just waiting for something to set them off so they can riot.

and dumbass... i'm not white. that is your fucking problem. you think anyone who says stuff i say has to be white. maybe if you stopped the excuses and tried to make something of yourself instead of waiting for handouts or holding up 7-11s you wouldn't have such a negative view of your situation in america.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

exactly but not exactly

theyre only option was to riot

but i never said they were waiting to riot


you didnt read what i said

the riot does not happen until the final thing that makes it happen
there is no 'wait' until then

little things build up and build up and there is such a thing as 'the final straw'
when that 'final straw' is laid down, then the riot is brought into existence because those people collectively have decided that enough is enough

they aren't thinking that prior to the final straw, else the riot would have been prior to that event

get it

[mookie2001]

all this hostility and passion in this thread right here.

is what caused the riots.

[Drachen]

I enjoy 5k's but I am training for a marathon

what, oh, not that kind of race? hmm well I am a German-French-Irish-Scottish-Polish-Cherokee-Chocktaw American. Thats my contribution.

[IcemanCometh]

why is madefromdust back?

[NameDropper]

Ebony and Ivory.

[BronxCowboy]

Nice job, Ressurected One. Way to get the racists in this forum to out themselves. I knew you had to be good for something eventually.

[Clandestino]

the cops who beat rodney king needed to be relieved of their badges and criminally prosecuted

it's sad bc it's the Stupidest, Least Capable, police officers who the public interact with on an everyday basis...think about it, they have the Best officers working homicide and CSI and SWAT and shit, not doing traffic duty when they're 40 years old

and the cops beat rodney king "because he was an asshole and they were pumped"?? so fucking what? they're supposed to be professionals, not a group of vigilantes
they shouldn't treat RK running from them as a personal insult...they fucking suck

you're right, they should let all criminals who run, flee. no need to capture them. if criminals fight back, they should get cookies and milk.

[MannyIsGod]

Heh.

[Extra Stout]

If the beating of Rodney King was racially motivated, why didn't his black passenger get pulled from the car and beat senseless? It's because it had nothing to do with race and everything to do with Rodney King being a punk ass hoodlum that had just led police on an extremely dangerous pursuit that endangered the lives of police and innocent bystanders. They beat him because he was an asshole and they were pumped -- not because he was black.Well... yeah. They were pissed and lost their cool. It's their job not to do that.


Making that distinction, early on, could have save a more than few lives, left Reginald Denny with his entire brain, and prevented the destruction of a large swathe of Los Angeles. Unfortunately, Blacks weren't interested in the truth...they had an opportunity to exploit.The Rodney King incident didn't occur in a vacuum. The police and the black community don't have a good relationship in most places.

Perhaps we could have a constructive discussion about whether the police are just doing their job, or whether there is widespread abuse of power.


It was wrong to beat Rodney King although, it can be argued that since the public rarely saw the entire recording, we really don't know how much of his plight was provoked by him...do we? I mean, why wasn't the passenger similarly treated?Were they frustrated, angry, with a lot of adrenaline flowing? Yes. Does that make it OK to continue beating a suspect after he has been subdued? No.

Black folks see racial issues where white folks don't because they have to deal with race frequently in their daily lives. They don't have a choice about that. It's sort of like if you lived in China, you would have to deal with your not being Chinese on a day-to-day basis. You would be at a disadvantage if you had to live there.

Being that most black folks were born here, that is incredibly frustrating for them. Take away all the active racism, and you still have a country built by white people for white people where things are done in white ways, and if you're not white, you have no choice but to adjust, and if you can't adjust, you'll never get ahead. So it still feels racist.


Oh, and O.J. Simpson was guilty and his arrest had nothing to do with being black either.

Discuss...His acquittal had everything to do with his being black, however. His lawyers did a great job of making his "getting away with it" feel like some kind of racial victory to get back at all those white folks who "got away with it" over the years... not that any black people got anything tangible from what basically was another rich dude buying his way out of trouble.

[bigzak25]

1991 forum.

[Clandestino]

Were they frustrated, angry, with a lot of adrenaline flowing? Yes. Does that make it OK to continue beating a suspect after he has been subdued? No.


he wasn't subdued. they couldn't subdue him. nothing phased him bc he was on so many drugs..

[Duff McCartney]

he refused to obey orders by the police. he was fighting them, he refused to stay down after being beaten. what should the police have done in that situation?

Handcuff his ass and throw him in the back of a cop car?

[dcole50]

the black people just love to make everything about race.

like that whole slavery thing. get over that. white people made a small goof there.

jesus, there are some way-to-close-to-racist people in this thread.

[JoeChalupa]

Racism is here to stay.

Sad but true.

[Clandestino]

pff
they could have thrown him in the back of a squad car and locked the doors and sat there and watched him until he got tired and sleepy


Handcuff his ass and throw him in the back of a cop car?

yeah, easier said than done. if they could've handcuffed him they would have. he kept fighting. they couldn't just coax him into the car. or how about this novel idea.. the fucker could've not fought back!!!

[Winehole23]

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[RandomGuy]

they should have just shot rodney king in the back of the head on the street!

Like so many others.

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[RandomGuy]

28 years later to the day:

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I have more than a few "support the police" friends who think the BLM movement is out of control. When I ask them if there are ANY needed police reforms they would support... crickets.

Supporting police generally, and thinking that some reforms and training could make things better are not mutually exclusive.