Reasons why it is best for the Spurs to finish #8

[silverblk mystix]

This was probably thrown out there by some other posters , so apologies--in advance...

I think the way things have gone it would be best to face the Lakers first...a series win would be unexpected by the whole world so the spurs would not have much pressure...

Tim, Tony & Manu would not have an extra series or two of wear and tear and the FOCUS would be there from start to finish...

win a game or two and the confidence would skyrocket...win the series, as improbable as it looks like....and this team could salvage a lost season--no matter how far they would continue--beating the lakers would at least ease a lot of the frustrations of this season...

[mexicanjunior]

Lottery chances would be better than chances of beating LA...I would feel horrible seeing this team swept out of the first round at the hands of Kobe and Colonel Sanders...

[jason1301]

#6 is the lowest a team has finished and went on the win it all... that should say something. also there is only once that the #8 spot beat the #1. the odds will be against us.

As it concerns beating the lakers, I just don't see it happening the way we play right now.

[Obstructed_View]

That's the worst thing that can happen. The Spurs don't get a lottery pick and they have a built-in excuse for failure in the playoffs. "Well we would have beaten three or four of those other teams, but nobody was beating the Lakers."

[Obstructed_View]

#6 is the lowest a team has finished and went on the win it all... that should say something. also there is only once that the #8 spot beat the #1. the odds will be against us.

As it concerns beating the lakers, I just don't see it happening the way we play right now.

Happened twice.

[silverblk mystix]

well, i hate to be negative...but i was not saying the spurs would beat the lakers AND then go on and win it all...i guess i meant---since it appears that the spurs are NOT going far....then it would be best to play the lakers FIRST...because it would almost be a win-win situation....

beat the lakers...great...

lose to the lakers...well no-one else would have beat them anyway...

so at least FACE the lakers and go for broke.....FTL!

[Obstructed_View]

well, i hate to be negative...but i was not saying the spurs would beat the lakers AND then go on and win it all...i guess i meant---since it appears that the spurs are NOT going far....then it would be best to play the lakers FIRST...because it would almost be a win-win situation....

beat the lakers...great...

lose to the lakers...well no-one else would have beat them anyway...

so at least FACE the lakers and go for broke.....FTL!

Again, that's the worst conceivable situation for the Spurs. They don't get a lottery pick to salvage this terrible year and they have a built-in excuse for losing in the playoffs and don't have to face this season full of potential an championship aspirations that they fucked up so badly.

[in2deep]

why in the world would you want the Lakers to assrape the Spurs for 4 games in a row and have an average margin of victory of 30+ pts????

[mexicanjunior]

why in the world would you want the Lakers to assrape the Spurs for 4 games in a row and have an average margin of victory of 30+ pts????

And then not get a lottery pick on top of it...that would be the absolute WORST case scenario...

[Obstructed_View]

why in the world would you want the Lakers to assrape the Spurs for 4 games in a row and have an average margin of victory of 30+ pts????

Oh yeah having to put up with an entire offseason of championship-drunk Laker fans would be bad too. :lol

[Sean Cagney]

Ehhhhhhhhhhhhh no, better off missing the playoffs than that there. Atleast you get a lottery pick and something to look forward to sides a summer long rant from LA fans on how they beat us again.

[FromWayDowntown]

Happened twice.

I think it's happened 3 times:

1994 Denver d. Seattle
1999 New York d. Miami
2007 Golden State d. Dallas.

That said, it wouldn't seem likely to happen for a 4th time if the Spurs were to face the Lakers in that situation. Even if someone else were to somehow surpass LA and grab the #1 seed in the West, I'm not sure that the Spurs as an 8 seed would be particularly likely to beat them.

[Obstructed_View]

I think it's happened 3 times:

1994 Denver d. Seattle
1999 New York d. Miami
2007 Golden State d. Dallas.

That said, it wouldn't seem likely to happen for a 4th time if the Spurs were to face the Lakers in that situation. Even if someone else were to somehow surpass LA and grab the #1 seed in the West, I'm not sure that the Spurs as an 8 seed would be particularly likely to beat them.

:lol how the hell did I forget the Knicks in '99? Of all the ones for me to forget. :bang

[GrandeDavid]

Great idea! The older Spurs would be freshest and the season has been so disappointing anyway, might as well go ahead and face the Lakers early on. And the other good news is that the fellas can start their luxury vacations earlier this year. All around a win-win!

[himat]

:lmao No way is that the Spurs best case scenario.

Sorry to say it Spur fans but it looks like your team is slowly deteriorating, but you guys had the best team of the decade. Remember that.

[silverblk mystix]

...but what if they pull off an upset...you are tellin' me that wouldn't be sweet?

[mexicanjunior]

...but what if they pull off an upset...you are tellin' me that wouldn't be sweet?

What if we got a top 3 pick in the draft next year...wouldn't that be sweet also?

[Chomag]

To watch the Lakers assrape the Spurs and not even get a pick out of it. No, thanks, I'll pass...

Spurs cant even beat crappy teams like Detroit or the Pacers (yes they beat them but it could have gone either way) What makes you think that they could magically all of a sudden beat a top tier team such as the Lakers? Don't forget that the Spurs would be playing a top team in playoff mode out there not just walking out on the court all by themselves.

This is even without getting into the odds, which don't favour this scenario as history has shown. If spurs can't get at least in the 6th seed I don't see the point. It would be much wiser to go for the lotto and try again for the future. We did it before and we got TIMMY out of it, so tanking might not be as bad as it might seems.

[crc21209]

No way the Spurs finished 8th anyway...as bad as the Spurs are playing right now, teams like the Grizzlies, Blazers, Hornets, and Rockets are even MORE inconsistent than the Spurs and one of those is most likely to finish 8th. The Spurs will be somewhere in the 4th-7th seed range...

[mexicanjunior]

No way the Spurs finished 8th anyway...as bad as the Spurs are playing right now, teams like the Grizzlies, Blazers, Hornets, and Rockets are even MORE inconsistent than the Spurs and one of those is most likely to finish 8th. The Spurs will be somewhere in the 4th-7th seed range...

2 of those teams made moves to get significantly better before the deadline...I don't see the Spurs finishing ahead of either of them.

[rascal]

And then not get a lottery pick on top of it...that would be the absolute WORST case scenario...

Agree. Hoping they get the 8th seed makes no sense. They are not getting past the lakers in any round.

A top 10 lottery pick looks much better for next years chances to rebound.

After the loss to Detroit and Parker missing more time it is becoming more real that the spurs have a chance to not make the playoffs.

[rascal]

I think it's happened 3 times:

1994 Denver d. Seattle
1999 New York d. Miami
2007 Golden State d. Dallas.

That said, it wouldn't seem likely to happen for a 4th time if the Spurs were to face the Lakers in that situation. Even if someone else were to somehow surpass LA and grab the #1 seed in the West, I'm not sure that the Spurs as an 8 seed would be particularly likely to beat them.

Wow! Its already been 15+ years since Mutombo fell to the floor after Denver won as the 8th seed.

[Chillen]

The Spurs would probably lose to the Lakers in the 1st rd, but they would compete and not lose by 30+ points a game. Would be an interesting series for sure. As for the Lakers being unbeatable this year, I think the Cavaliers, Magic, and Celtics can beat them in the NBA finals. The Nuggets and Mavericks could also give them a series, won't be easy for them to get the repeat in the 2010 playoffs like people think it will be. Gasol could break down, and Kobe has had problems with injurys this season. Phil is a mastermind coach though...

[HarlemHeat37]

Have you seen the Spurs this year?..those other teams will give the Lakers some trouble, but the Spurs will get swept and lose every game by 20+..

Playing the Lakers and losing to them in a series would be horrible..knowing their fans, they would somehow turn it in Kobe's favor in arguments vs. Duncan..

[Mel_13]

8th seed and getting destroyed by the Lakers is the absolute worst case scenario. Rather take my chances with the ping pong balls.

[in2deep]

ok I thought about this long and hard. I agree with the OP.

It would be a one shot, one in a million miracles may happen kind of series. Then Spurs can have an early summer to refuel and reload for next season.

That will also allow Parker and Manu to be ready for the World's tournament for their respective countries.

Dick Jefferson can just hitch a ride in the Lakers plane after game 4 and spend the summer as he always does, rooming with Luke.

Win/Win situation for everyone IMO.

[portnoy1]

The Spurs would probably lose to the Lakers in the 1st rd, but they would compete and not lose by 30+ points a game. Would be an interesting series for sure. As for the Lakers being unbeatable this year, I think the Cavaliers, Magic, and Celtics can beat them in the NBA finals. The Nuggets and Mavericks could also give them a series, won't be easy for them to get the repeat in the 2010 playoffs like people think it will be. Gasol could break down, and Kobe has had problems with injurys this season. Phil is a mastermind coach though...
Spurs would lose 4-1 for sure. And thats with Manu palying at a high level.

[HarlemHeat37]

The odds of winning the Draft Lottery is better than the odds of somehow beating the Lakers in a series..way better..our only chance of beating the Lakers would be if their MVP Pau Gasol blows out his knee and then Odom gets eaten by his wife..then we might have a chance..

[Allanon]

Odom gets eaten by his wife
:lol True.

[in2deep]

The odds of winning the Draft Lottery is better than the odds of somehow beating the Lakers in a series..way better..our only chance of beating the Lakers would be if their MVP Pau Gasol blows out his knee and then Odom gets eaten by his wife..then we might have a chance..

Although the possibilites of Artest overdosing on Jim Bean and Kobe being arrested for raping the hotel maid are more likely.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Rookies should have to make 100 posts before they can start threads :td

Seriously, on what planet is an 8 seed getting thrashed a great idea?

Fuck no, if you're going to be there then may as well take your chances in the lotto.

[Sean Cagney]

The odds of winning the Draft Lottery is better than the odds of somehow beating the Lakers in a series..way better..our only chance of beating the Lakers would be if their MVP Pau Gasol blows out his knee and then Odom gets eaten by his wife..then we might have a chance..

LOL, your wrong man :lol:lol

[Libri]

This was probably thrown out there by some other posters , so apologies--in advance...

I think the way things have gone it would be best to face the Lakers first...a series win would be unexpected by the whole world so the spurs would not have much pressure...

Tim, Tony & Manu would not have an extra series or two of wear and tear and the FOCUS would be there from start to finish...

win a game or two and the confidence would skyrocket...win the series, as improbable as it looks like....and this team could salvage a lost season--no matter how far they would continue--beating the lakers would at least ease a lot of the frustrations of this season...

In other words the Spurs should take on the role of the spoiler. Sorry but the only spoiling they'll be doing is my appetite after I see them lose to the Lakers and miss out on a lottery pick.

[SpursNextRomanEmpire]

ok

[Snaq O'Meal]

The odds of winning the Draft Lottery is better than the odds of somehow beating the Lakers in a series..way better..our only chance of beating the Lakers would be if their MVP Pau Gasol blows out his knee and then Odom gets eaten by his wife..then we might have a chance..

Even if the Lakers are somehow without Gasol and Odom, the Jackson vs Pop match-up rules the series in their favor.

[Josepatches_]

Right now I believe we will not have HCA in the first round so If we are going to be in the playoffs then I like finish 8th.To be in the playoffs if we cant win doesnt have sense for me so there is no reason to fight in the first round with mid-level teams if we cant beat the Lakers.
If there was not a team a lot better than the others obviously i like to be in the higher position we can but I'm pretty sure the Lakers will be in the West Finals so we will have to face them anyway if we want to win so there is no reason to wait
Face them and let's see what happens.At least you will have a better position in the NBA draft being 8th (i guess top20 )....

.....or forget the playoffs,tank the season and go to the lottery

[Ocotillo]

the Jackson vs Pop match-up rules the series in their favor.

Ah, the simulator crew gets out foxed again.

[Obstructed_View]

If the Spurs turn the season around it's likely that they're going to do it in the next couple of games and go on a hot streak into the playoffs, which means they won't face the Lakers.

[bdictjames]

Hey, if we get the 7th seed with a lot of healthy players in our team, our core guys healthy, I think we're a tough team to beat. One of the best 7th seeds in recent memory.

[benefactor]

The odds of winning the Draft Lottery is better than the odds of somehow beating the Lakers in a series..way better..our only chance of beating the Lakers would be if their MVP Pau Gasol blows out his knee and then Odom gets eaten by his wife..then we might have a chance..
:lol

I agree completely.

[Ode to Triple Ocho]

why in the world would you want the Lakers to assrape the Spurs for 4 games in a row and have an average margin of victory of 30+ pts????

Well that already happened in 2001

[SenorSpur]

The odds of winning the Draft Lottery is better than the odds of somehow beating the Lakers in a series..way better..our only chance of beating the Lakers would be if their MVP Pau Gasol blows out his knee and then Odom gets eaten by his wife..then we might have a chance..

Amen!

What the point in having an "early out" again in the first round? That would merely be a "stay of execution" that delays the ultimate end.

There is no reward for an early playoff out. And there's certainly no reward for the mediocrity.

It's far better to have the highest draft pick they can muster.

[easy7]

If Goliath's baby sista beats the shit out of s at will, what makes you think we can beat Goliath? That is like saying I can't beach 100 lbs, set me up with 500 lbs. Man, I take a double shot of what you drinking,,, :toast

[TFloss32]

I don't condone rooting against your own team in hopes that something good will happen, but the Spurs will most likely get ousted in the first round IF they make the Playoffs. The Spurs WILL lose 30+ games and with teams like New Orleans, Houston and Memphis just hanging around, a playoff spot will be difficult to come by.

I'd rather the Spurs have a lottery pick and avoid being embarassed by the Nuggets or Lakers. You re-group/rest during a long offseason (especially Pop), make a solid selection in the draft, bring over Splitter (maybe Nando de Colo as well) and focus on re-signing Manu.

[SenorSpur]

Folks, welcome to the Land of Mediocrity. Our gracious hosts have been expecting us for several years now. Let;s hope that our stay is a very short one.

[jdev82]

Happened twice.

mutombo and baron davis

[JR3]

I'm for this idea. Bring it.. ill take the risk.

[Dunc n Dave]

I think it's happened 3 times:

1994 Denver d. Seattle
1999 New York d. Miami
2007 Golden State d. Dallas.

That said, it wouldn't seem likely to happen for a 4th time if the Spurs were to face the Lakers in that situation. Even if someone else were to somehow surpass LA and grab the #1 seed in the West, I'm not sure that the Spurs as an 8 seed would be particularly likely to beat them.

While all 3 of those teams were the #8 seed, the first two (Denver and New York) did it back when the 1st round was a best of 5 series.

The only #8 seed team to upset a #1 seeded team in a 7 game series (a lot tougher task than a 5 game series where you can steal 1 of the 1st 2 games on the road then hold serve at home) is Golden State.

[ducks]

I think denver will beat out the lakers this year

I think spurs have beater shot at beating them then the lakers

[Spursmania]

It's best for them to finish 8th because frankly that would be the best they can do right now. We'll be lucky if they make the playoffs.

[TIMMYD!]

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[Rogue]

As the current slackness insinuates, a 1st-round exit seems an inevitable fate for the Spurs no matter whom they take on. At least losing to Lakers won't need them to concoct any excuse.

[SouthTexasRancher]

Finish in 8th place? Hell, we are not even gonna be in the playoffs. At this point it is time to do the 0-30 thing or however many games are left. We ain't going to go anywhere no matter what so it is time to just rest the broken down guys like our Big 3 and look at a good draft position to either use or trade for someone who can help. In the meantime Pop needs to study other coaches because it is painfully obvious he is clueless this year as to what to do. And RC is overrated....PERIOD!!!

Oh yeah, if Tony insists on playing for socialist France this summer then trade his sorry ass asap!!! Screw these 3rd & 4th world, limp-wristed, girlieboy, pos, socialist, communist dictatorship countries. Little La Frenchie doesn't have any chance in World play anyway so the little frenchie should stay home and have sex with Eva all summer long. :toast

[The Truth #6]

I doubt Pop wants to get destroyed by his archrival in the first round. It would do permanent damage to his legacy. It would be referenced like the way Hakeem destroyed 5-0 in the playoffs. I can't see Pop looking forward to that. However he does have a secret weapon to beat the Lakers. No one has probably heard of it yet...it's called smallball!

[SouthTexasRancher]

I doubt Pop wants to get destroyed by his archrival in the first round. It would do permanent damage to his legacy. It would be referenced like the way Hakeem destroyed 5-0 in the playoffs. I can't see Pop looking forward to that. However he does have a secret weapon to beat the Lakers. No one has probably heard of it yet...it's called smallball!

:lol:rollin:lol

[Rogue]

Français need TL to prevent themselves getting curbstomped. They know they aren't winning shit even with TL working his legs fractured but still they have to continue haunting him for the sake of national honor or shit.

[HarlemHeat37]

I doubt Pop wants to get destroyed by his archrival in the first round. It would do permanent damage to his legacy. It would be referenced like the way Hakeem destroyed 5-0 in the playoffs. I can't see Pop looking forward to that. However he does have a secret weapon to beat the Lakers. No one has probably heard of it yet...it's called smallball!

Small....ball?!..:wtf

would you like to elaborate?..

[ElNono]

I like our chances against Denver in the first round... I don't know, they're a team that look insanely good one night and then they have trouble showing up against the lesser teams.

[Obstructed_View]

I like our chances against Denver in the first round... I don't know, they're a team that look insanely good one night and then they have trouble showing up against the lesser teams.

So being one of the lesser teams for a seven game series is their ticket to the finals, baby.

[ElNono]

So being one of the lesser teams for a seven game series is their ticket to the finals, baby.

Basically... :lol

[Mr.Robinson]

If Parker rests and is close to 100% come playoff time The Spurs can beat anybody. We've been missing TP all season.

[jason1301]

Happened twice.

not with the 7 games series

[Xevious]

Maybe we'll get 6th seed and face the Jazz. :lol

:shootme

[Obstructed_View]

not with the 7 games series

Hasn't this been corrected enough times yet?