Deron Williams or Brandon Roy

[picc84]

Who's better?

[jacobdrj]

I'd build my team around Deron at this point... Roy is very very good, but I can't say the same about him...

[Kobe Molested Me]

How can you compare? Their game is totally different.

[balli]

Yeah, apples and oranges, but I'd take Deron over every guard in the league not named Kobe or Wade.

[jacobdrj]

Kobe is too old to build a team around, and despite my man-crush on Wade, I feel he will break down soon due to his play style...

[dirk4mvp]

DWill.

[Chieflion]

Brandon Roy. It is a tough choice though.

[redzero]

Brandon Roy. Deron Williams is a piece of shit who live in the much superior Chris Paul's shadow for his entire career.

[Allanon]

DWill.

Brandon Roy plays like he doesn't give a fuck too much of the time.

[redzero]

Please Chris Paul isn't even the best point on his own team.

Agreed.

Collison > Paul > Williams

[sefant77]

Deron for a rebuild, its more easy to find a nice wing than a true pg and leader.

[BRHornet45]

Roy of course, don't be stupid ... lol was this meant to be a joke?

[Ghazi]

Williams. Best PG In the NBA

LMAO 121-63

[Pelicans78]

williams. Best pg in the nba

lmao 121-63

4-1

[BRHornet45]

Williams. Best PG In the NBA

LMAO 121-63

lol 8th seed GSW
lol 2006 finals
lol Cuban unable to buy a championship
lol Cuban Dancing with the Stars fail
lol Dirk knocking up crackhead felons
lol lying about All Star game attendance
lol Becky Hammon carrying Dirk in the shootout contest gimme dat becky!!!
lol Wade winning his 2nd MVP award in Dallas!!!!
lol your fetish of watching your wife sleep with black men

[balli]

LMAO 121-63
lol lol lol. Nuff said. As if Deron would EVER allow himself to be abused that badly. Not to mention the other games in that series where Paul got eaten alive.

[8FOR!3]

I'll take Deron Williams over Brandon Roy.

[Pelicans78]

It's not like Denver played CP3 straight up. They were trapping him with two guys every possession because they knew everyone else on the team was garbage. Denver would never show Williams the same respect because he has always had more talent to work with.

[badfish22]

Deron Williams


crofl insecure hornet fans voting Roy

[redzero]

Deron Williams


crofl insecure hornet fans voting Roy

There's no poll, and this doesn't mean anything even if there was one.

[j.dizzle]

I like Roy but he seems like a pussy for some reason. Dwill is tougher.

[The Gemini Method]

sounds good to me Collison went graduated from my alma mater:toast

Is this how far the education @ Westwood had fallen in recent years? Nutty little Ruins...Fight On! ;)

I would take Deron. The guy is a gamer and isn't a whiner like CP3 or Roy has shown signs of becoming. He plays like he was disrespected coming out of Illinois (which many did). Likes to be in the "moment" unlike most. Would look nice in a Lakers uniform...

[himat]

Deron but its a close call.

[balli]

I don't think you can even make the case that Roy>Deron...

But look, you can make a case for Paul, obviously. I do think it's funny though that Hornet fan, on average, won't extend that same concession to Deron. It smacks of defensive self-righteousness. Which further smacks of seeing the writing on the wall.

I think it speaks volumes that Deron supporters are naturally assertive, while Paul supporters are naturally on the defense. They're both great players, but yeah, Hornets fan's position is so clearly steeped in fear and doubt about their own player's comparative merits.

[Pelicans78]

If it makes you happy Balli, D-Will > Roy

[balli]

:tu

[Pelicans78]

Also Balli, CP3 and D-will are the two best PGs in the league.

[balli]

Also Balli, CP3 and D-will are the two best PGs in the league.
Yeah, that's basically the point. I don't mind people saying Paul>Deron. I'm not too big on the Roy or (last year :lol) the Tony Parker enthusiasts getting all uppity.

[Pelicans78]

Yeah, that's basically the point. I don't mind people saying Paul>Deron. I'm not too big on the Roy or (last year :lol) the Tony Parker enthusiasts getting all uppity.

Wts gonna happen with Boozer? Millsap has been great, but can this team be just as strong without Boozer next season?

[Pelicans78]

Yeah, that's basically the point. I don't mind people saying Paul>Deron. I'm not too big on the Roy or (last year :lol) the Tony Parker enthusiasts getting all uppity.

Parker's had a nice career, maybe HoF, obviously he drives to the basket really well, but when it comes to ball-handling, passing, shooting, defense, he's not on D-Will's or CP3's level.

[djohn2oo8]

Parker's had a nice career, maybe HoF, obviously he drives to the basket really well, but when it comes to ball-handling, passing, shooting, defense, he's not on D-Will's or CP3's level.

Did you just mention Tony Parker and Hall of Fame in the same sentence??? Nice try tho

[Pelicans78]

Did you just mention Tony Parker and Hall of Fame in the same sentence??? Nice try tho

I think he will get attention for being part of a dynasty, winning a Finals MVP, All-Star appearances. But being part of a dynasty will get him alot of attention.

[balli]

Wts gonna happen with Boozer? Millsap has been great, but can this team be just as strong without Boozer next season?

IDK? It's a matter of depth. I think Millsap could fill in in admirably (as a starter), but who takes over for Millsap's bench production were he to start? I don't really care what Boozer does, cause I hate the guy, we aren't winning a ring either way and this is his contract year, but no we're not as good without him. IMO.

[Pelicans78]

IDK? It's a matter of depth. I think Millsap could fill in in admirably (as a starter), but who takes over for Millsap's bench production were he to start? I don't really care what Boozer does, cause I hate the guy, we aren't winning a ring either way and this is his contract year, but no we're not as good without him. IMO.

I see your point. Hornets bench have stunk ever since CP3 got hurt since Collison has to start now.

Any chance they could start someone at SF instead AK47 and move Kirilenko to the bench to replace Millsap's production? I imagine the FO will find someone since they do a good job in scouting and drafting.

[himat]

I don't think you can even make the case that Roy>Deron...

I think a case could be made. I think Deron is better but I could still make a case for Roy.

Off the top of my head I think Roy has been to more all star games already (granted D-Will got robbed but still.)

If Deron wants to be considered the best PG Utah has to become a bigger threat. You guys need a SG/SF badly.

[j-money24]

It's not like Denver played CP3 straight up. They were trapping him with two guys every possession because they knew everyone else on the team was garbage. Denver would never show Williams the same respect because he has always had more talent to work with.

Williams is the best point gaurd in the league, get over it.

He has his team at one of the top teams in the West. CP3 has his team out of the playoff standings most of the season. The team plays better without him which they are now very close to the 8th seed since hes been out.

[redzero]

He has his team at one of the top teams in the West. CP3 has his team out of the playoff standings most of the season. The team plays better without him which they are now very close to the 8th seed since hes been out.

That's not true at all.

[The TroutBum]

I don't think you can even make the case that Roy>Deron...

But look, you can make a case for Paul, obviously. I do think it's funny though that Hornet fan, on average, won't extend that same concession to Deron. It smacks of defensive self-righteousness. Which further smacks of seeing the writing on the wall.

I think it speaks volumes that Deron supporters are naturally assertive, while Paul supporters are naturally on the defense. They're both great players, but yeah, Hornets fan's position is so clearly steeped in fear and doubt about their own player's comparative merits.

Don't muck me in with those losers -- Chris Paul sucks armadillo balls for lunch.

[mystargtr34]

Brandon Roy

[Killakobe81]

I'm sorry but i think of i had to choose I would defintively take Dwill over Roy and give him THE SLIGHT edge over C3p for a couple reasons:

1- I think he is the better player he can play with or without the ball (played without in college at times, will do so when Sloan's system calls for it) THE OTHER 2 guys NEED the ball to be effective ...

2-I think he will is the better defender of the 3 guys ...

3- Longterm health Roy has been injured since college, C#p's injury is worse than is being let on ...

Dwill is one of my favorite players in the league and I hate (well dislike) Utah that is saying something ...

[duhoh]

roy is much too injury prone.

i was at UW for his senior year. oh boy, was that frustrating.

d-will.

[Pelicans78]

Williams is the best point gaurd in the league, get over it.

He has his team at one of the top teams in the West. CP3 has his team out of the playoff standings most of the season. The team plays better without him which they are now very close to the 8th seed since hes been out.

They've only been a .500 team since he's been out. You have no clue about the Hornets. They were a top 5 home team before the injury and have already lost 4 home games since his injury. Collison isn't nearly as efficient as CP3 right now and might not ever be. The Hornets were 19-10 with CP3 after Byron Scott got his ass fired before his injury and are only a .500 team without him.

[Pelicans78]

I'm sorry but i think of i had to choose I would defintively take Dwill over Roy and give him THE SLIGHT edge over C3p for a couple reasons:

1- I think he is the better player he can play with or without the ball (played without in college at times, will do so when Sloan's system calls for it) THE OTHER 2 guys NEED the ball to be effective ...

2-I think he will is the better defender of the 3 guys ...

3- Longterm health Roy has been injured since college, C#p's injury is worse than is being let on ...

Dwill is one of my favorite players in the league and I hate (well dislike) Utah that is saying something ...

How do you know? He had a torn meniscus which was surgically repaired. What's so hard to figure out about that?

BTW, Williams is a better on the ball defender, but CP3 is better overall offensively. Always shoots a higher FG%, scorers more, more assists. Even rebounds more as well.

[fo'shizzle]

Funny how all the Laker's fans voted against Roy. LOL

[DAF86]

I don't think you can even make the case that Roy>Deron...

Wait! Why? :lol

Roy makes more points, shoots better from the field and from three, gets more rebounds and has a higher PER. I'm not saying Roy > D-will (not saying the other way around either) but you could definitely make that case.

[redzero]

Lakers fans showing their collective hardon for Williams again. No surprises here.

[Girasuck]

Don't muck me in with those losers -- Chris Paul sucks armadillo balls for lunch.

Same with me. Crap3 is the most overrated NBA player in the past 20 years.

[nkdlunch]

Roy is overrated while Deron is still underrated. Not to mention Deron is a true PG. hard to find. and more durable than Roy.

Deron it is.

[redzero]

Same with me. Crap3 is the most overrated NBA player in the past 20 years.

And yet he still plays better than Deron Williams every season.

[RedsLakers24]

Deron Williams, Deron Williams for Andrew Bynum, GET THIS DONE

[Killakobe81]

Maybe part of the reason Laker fans are partial to Dwill over C3p because he plays so well vs. us and at times C3p has pissed the bed vs. the Lakers ...

All I know is as a coach if i can get speed, size, strength and smarts all in one package for a PG that is a coach's dream.
He can SWITCH on to a SG and not give up much if anything only guys you can say that about are Dwill Westbrook and Derek Rose to some degree ... Jkidd and GP in their days you could do so as well ...

[redzero]

Maybe part of the reason Laker fans are partial to Dwill over C3p because he plays so well vs. us and at times C3p has pissed the bed vs. the Lakers ...

Paul vs Lakers:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pgl_finder.cgi?request=1&player=paulch01&match=game&year_min=2006&year_max=2010&age_min=0&age_max=99&team_id=&opp_id=LAL&is_playoffs=N&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&game_month=&game_location=&game_result=&is_starter=&is_active=&is_hof=&pos=&c1stat=&c1comp=gt&c1val=&c2stat=&c2comp=gt&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&order_by=pts

Williams vs Lakers:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pgl_finder.cgi?request=1&player=willide01&match=game&year_min=2006&year_max=2010&age_min=0&age_max=99&team_id=UTA&opp_id=LAL&is_playoffs=N&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&game_month=&game_location=&game_result=&is_starter=&is_active=&is_hof=&pos=&c1stat=&c1comp=gt&c1val=&c2stat=&c2comp=gt&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&order_by=pts

[Killakobe81]

Paul vs Lakers:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pgl_finder.cgi?request=1&player=paulch01&match=game&year_min=2006&year_max=2010&age_min=0&age_max=99&team_id=&opp_id=LAL&is_playoffs=N&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&game_month=&game_location=&game_result=&is_starter=&is_active=&is_hof=&pos=&c1stat=&c1comp=gt&c1val=&c2stat=&c2comp=gt&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&order_by=pts

Williams vs Lakers:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pgl_finder.cgi?request=1&player=willide01&match=game&year_min=2006&year_max=2010&age_min=0&age_max=99&team_id=UTA&opp_id=LAL&is_playoffs=N&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&game_month=&game_location=&game_result=&is_starter=&is_active=&is_hof=&pos=&c1stat=&c1comp=gt&c1val=&c2stat=&c2comp=gt&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&order_by=pts

I was NOT agreeing with that reasoning only theorized ...
stats do not tell the whole story ...
And remember we played the Jazz in the playoffs and saw Dwill do BIG things playoffs mean a lot more than regualr season play ...the only big game we saw vs. C3p was two years ago when he lost the late season battle that won the #1 seed for the Lakers and clinche MVP for Kobe when c3p choked late ...I'm sure both Laker fans and Hornets fans remember that game POST THOSE 4th quarter stats or look at teh plays on youtube ... i think even fish took a charge late on c3p IIRC ...

I gave my personal reasons none of them were stat based ...

in fantasy basketball I debated Lebron, Kobe Howard and C3p with my #1 pick but I chose Lebron ...(not a blind kobe fan)

and Im glad i did he and Howard have been the most healthy and Lebron has put the cavs on his back ...I am currently in 1st place thanks to Lebron's recent tear and Blatche thanks Cavs!!! LOL

[lil_penny]

its a wash imo.. both have there ups and downs, but pretty hard to compare the two when ones a sg and the others a point. i would be happy with either of them.. they both have some injury problems though but not as much as others in the league.

[redzero]

I was NOT agreeing with that reasoning only theorized ...
stats do not tell the whole story ...
And remember we played the Jazz in the playoffs and saw Dwill do BIG things playoffs mean a lot more than regualr season play ...the only big game we saw vs. C3p was two years ago when he lost the late season battle that won the #1 seed for the Lakers and clinche MVP for Kobe when c3p choked late ...I'm sure both Laker fans and Hornets fans remember that game POST THOSE 4th quarter stats or look at teh plays on youtube ... i think even fish took a charge late on c3p IIRC ...

I gave my personal reasons none of them were stat based ...

in fantasy basketball I debated Lebron, Kobe Howard and C3p with my #1 pick but I chose Lebron ...(not a blind kobe fan)

and Im glad i did he and Howard have been the most healthy and Lebron has put the cavs on his back ...I am currently in 1st place thanks to Lebron's recent tear and Blatche thanks Cavs!!! LOL

1.) Williams lost to the Lakers, so what he did in the playoffs obviously wasn't big enough.
2.) The Hornets battled the Lakers for the first seed two seasons ago. The game you are thinking about is the last matchup between the two teams from last season.

Paul did charge into Fisher, which led to an overtime. And in that overtime, Kobe managed to push Paul on the ground and foul him out. So, you can say that he got some clutch preferential treatment.

[Killakobe81]

1.) Williams lost to the Lakers, so what he did in the playoffs obviously wasn't big enough.
2.) The Hornets battled the Lakers for the first seed two seasons ago. The game you are thinking about is the last matchup between the two teams from last season.

Paul did charge into Fisher, which led to an overtime. And in that overtime, Kobe managed to push Paul on the ground and foul him out. So, you can say that he got some clutch preferential treatment.

Thanks for looking that up I was lazy! LOL

[Killakobe81]

1.) Williams lost to the Lakers, so what he did in the playoffs obviously wasn't big enough.
2.) The Hornets battled the Lakers for the first seed two seasons ago. The game you are thinking about is the last matchup between the two teams from last season.

Paul did charge into Fisher, which led to an overtime. And in that overtime, Kobe managed to push Paul on the ground and foul him out. So, you can say that he got some clutch preferential treatment.

Oh and Like I said ...just give some thoughts I don't speak for ALL Laker fans gave you my reasons c3p is great he just needs to be (from i have seen in colleg and pros so far) in offense that requires him to handle the rock a lot to be effective kind of like NAsh ...

Dwill reminds me of Kidd with the size and the abilty to play off the ball even better than kidd because he is a better scorer ...

Both kidd and Nash (Dwill and c3p) are great... saying I perfer one is no disrespect to the other

Just like Lebron over kobe or Kobe over Lebron is no disrespect either ...

[tlongII]

I love D-Will, but he's not as good as B-Roy.