Cane
02-23-2010, 01:12 PM
What a hell of a Rodeo Road Trip, as a fan I watched all the games and decided to spend some time averaging the players' stats to help raise the bar and put things in perspective. I used the esteemed timvp's "Game Thoughts" as a template and please note that some stats might be off due to human error and the minutes were rounded a little.
As a team, its great that the top half of these players are making a relatively positive impact. But it is troubling to see Duncan struggle offensively, Parker getting injured, and Parker being the best 3-point shooter of the Spurs during the trip. At least Ginobili is starting to return to his old self but the rest of the 3-point shooters have shot well under their averages (Mason Jr just above .20%):
THE GOOD:
Manu Ginobili
http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/.e1d/img/4.0/global/basketball/nba/players/3380.jpg
29 minutes, 18.6 points, 3.1 rebounds, 4.5 assists, 1.6 steals, 2.3 turnovers (per game played during the trip)
49-for-103 from the field (.475%), 16-for-41 on three-pointers (.39%), 35-for-44 at the line (.795%) (totals)
Ginobili looks like he's returning to his Vintage form, he's the best thing the Spurs have going on in their roster. That includes making 3's, finishing in the lane, being a playmaker, and unfortunately turnovers although 2.3 isn't that bad.
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George Hill
http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/images/basketball/nba/players/4488.jpg
29:27 minutes, 15.5 points, 3.3 assists, 3.1 rebounds, 0.75 steals, 0.6 blocks, 2 turnovers
45-for-99 from the field (.447%), 8-for-25 on three-pointers (.32%), 35-for-44 at the line (.79%)
His three point shooting took a hit but other than that its another bright spot for the Spurs lineup. If Mason Jr. wants more minutes he needs to learn to play defense like Hill does.
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Antonio McDyess
http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/.e1d/img/4.0/global/basketball/nba/players/3004.jpg
21:30 minutes, 6.75 points, 7.1 rebounds, 1 assist, 0.6 steals
26-for-55 from the field (.472%), 2-2 FT (100%)
His numbers and impact are steadily improving; he's here because he's exceeding his overall season #'s as a Spur. Second-half season player? Looks like it.
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DeJuan Blair
http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/.e1d/img/4.0/global/basketball/nba/players/4642.jpg
18.1 minutes, 10.75 points, 4.3 rebounds, 1 steal, 0.6 assist, 1.5 turnovers
36-for-62 from the field (.58%), 14-for-17 at the line (.823%)
The biggest surprise of the season for the Spurs and possibly the league; however in the Rodeo road trip his best asset, his rebounding, seems to have fallen off the wayside while at the same time he improved offensively. He got into a lot of foul trouble though which is typical of rookies, explaining his low minutes. Gotta like that free throw percentage.
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Tim Duncan
http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/.e1d/img/4.0/global/basketball/nba/players/3173.jpg
30 minutes, 15.8 points, 12.2 rebounds, 2.3 assists, 1.1 steals, 1.25 blocks, 1.5 turnovers
53-for-117 from the field (.452%), 20-for-30 at the line (.667%)
Duncan almost met his career high in rebounding on this rodeo trip however that somewhat inflates his rebounding numbers.
:bang Why did I use that emoticon? His offense is missing-in-action. He's shooting only .452% from the field and .667% at the line. He is averaging a career low in minutes but its still a dip from his production earlier in the season. Duncan needs to find his touch again ASAP; he hasn't been able to take over games like he used to. He's on the verge of being part of 'the Bad' due to his offensive troubles....troubling to see him struggle against a Dalembert-less Philly team. It was around this time last season that he started to fall off production-wise but at least its just his offense so far...
THE BAD:
Tony Parker
http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/.e1d/img/4.0/global/basketball/nba/players/3527.jpg
32 minutes, 16.4 points, 6.8 assists, 2.2 turnovers
34-for-73 from the field (.465%), 3-for-7 on three-pointers (.428%), 11-for-15 at the line (.73%)
He was shooting over 50% from the field until his .111% performance against PHI . You know something's wrong with the Spurs when Parker is the best 3-point shooter and now with another injury its looking even more grim for San Antonio. The Spurs are going to miss his instant offense. He's listed here since he was only able to play in 5 of the Rodeo trip games.
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Richard Jefferson
http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/.e1d/img/4.0/global/basketball/nba/players/3523.jpg
30:30 minutes, 9.6 points, 1.6 assists, 3.5 rebounds, .87 turnovers
24-for-72 from the field (.333%), 6-for-19 on three-pointers (.315%), 23-29 free throws (.793%)
His effort seems to be improving and its refreshing to hear him acknowledge his shortcomings. Hopefully he continues to improve and it looks like he's going to have to earn a starter role and 4th quarter clutch minutes... I've got no problems with that as it should just fuel even more motivation.
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Keith Bogans
http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/.e1d/img/4.0/global/basketball/nba/players/3746.jpg
22.1 minutes, 3 points, 2 rebounds, 1.1 assists
10-for-25 from the field (.400%), 4-13 from 3 (.307%)
This guy seems to be getting a lot of hate nowadays however his stats aren't as bad as guys who are more deserving like Roger Mason Jr. Still thats not saying much, however at least he attempts to fill his role of being a Baby Bowen through a semblance of defensive effort and hustle. His numbers actually aren't all that bad and he's actually earning his role from that perspective. He could even be arguably in the "good" category if you take into consideration his relative numbers and contract $$$.
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Matt Bonner
http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/.e1d/img/4.0/global/basketball/nba/players/3748.jpg
11.7 minutes, 3.4 points, 1.2 rebounds,
7-for-20 from the field (.35%), 6-for-17 on three-pointers (.352%), 3-for-4 at the line (.75%)
He only averaged less than 12 minutes and didn't play in all of the games either; but he's still not back to pre-injury form and thankfully his low-minutes also signified such. He's on the verge of being a part of "the ugly" but his low minutes and games played saves him from that....for now.
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THE UGLY:
Roger Mason, Jr.
http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/images/basketball/nba/players/3628.jpg
20.1 minutes, 4.5 points, 1.7 assists, 1.5 rebounds
11-for-40 from the field (.275%), 5-for-24 on three-pointers (.208%), 5-for-5 at the line (100%)
I used to like Mason Jr. despite his one-dimensional game; hard to hate a guy after that X-Mas shot in Phoenix. But his recent trade talks (which are minor I admit) but most importantly, his appalling stats during the rodeo trip, shows that he might not deserve this fan's support. Holy shit, .208% from 3-point range?!?! :ihit :bang
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Michael Finley
http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/.e1d/img/4.0/global/basketball/nba/players/3023.jpg
9.2 minutes, 1 point, 1.75 rebounds
2-for-9 from the field (.222%), 1-for-7 on three-pointers (.142%)
He only played in five games in limited minutes (9) but still his stats don't show much. Doubt he'll get much more time since Mason Jr. wants those minutes but I think he puts up a better impact and effort defensively...then again thats not saying much.
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Ian Mahinmi
http://i.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/media/act_ian_mahinmi.jpg
2:30 minutes, 3 points, 1.5 rebounds, 2 turnovers
1-for-3 from the field
With Theo out he'll be grabbing whatever minutes those would be....but even in his limited minutes its apparent that he needs more time in the d-league which I'm sure the Spurs would oblige if they could. 2 turnovers in 2-and-a-half minutes? :wow
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TL/DR:
Injured Parker, most of our three-point shooters shooting well under their averages except Manu and Parker :wow, Duncan regressing offensively, and lacking defense are imo the biggest reasons why the Spurs didn't come out with more wins.
If these factors improve, which they should barring any serious injury, the Spurs just might finish this season off well.
As a team, its great that the top half of these players are making a relatively positive impact. But it is troubling to see Duncan struggle offensively, Parker getting injured, and Parker being the best 3-point shooter of the Spurs during the trip. At least Ginobili is starting to return to his old self but the rest of the 3-point shooters have shot well under their averages (Mason Jr just above .20%):
THE GOOD:
Manu Ginobili
http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/.e1d/img/4.0/global/basketball/nba/players/3380.jpg
29 minutes, 18.6 points, 3.1 rebounds, 4.5 assists, 1.6 steals, 2.3 turnovers (per game played during the trip)
49-for-103 from the field (.475%), 16-for-41 on three-pointers (.39%), 35-for-44 at the line (.795%) (totals)
Ginobili looks like he's returning to his Vintage form, he's the best thing the Spurs have going on in their roster. That includes making 3's, finishing in the lane, being a playmaker, and unfortunately turnovers although 2.3 isn't that bad.
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George Hill
http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/images/basketball/nba/players/4488.jpg
29:27 minutes, 15.5 points, 3.3 assists, 3.1 rebounds, 0.75 steals, 0.6 blocks, 2 turnovers
45-for-99 from the field (.447%), 8-for-25 on three-pointers (.32%), 35-for-44 at the line (.79%)
His three point shooting took a hit but other than that its another bright spot for the Spurs lineup. If Mason Jr. wants more minutes he needs to learn to play defense like Hill does.
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Antonio McDyess
http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/.e1d/img/4.0/global/basketball/nba/players/3004.jpg
21:30 minutes, 6.75 points, 7.1 rebounds, 1 assist, 0.6 steals
26-for-55 from the field (.472%), 2-2 FT (100%)
His numbers and impact are steadily improving; he's here because he's exceeding his overall season #'s as a Spur. Second-half season player? Looks like it.
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DeJuan Blair
http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/.e1d/img/4.0/global/basketball/nba/players/4642.jpg
18.1 minutes, 10.75 points, 4.3 rebounds, 1 steal, 0.6 assist, 1.5 turnovers
36-for-62 from the field (.58%), 14-for-17 at the line (.823%)
The biggest surprise of the season for the Spurs and possibly the league; however in the Rodeo road trip his best asset, his rebounding, seems to have fallen off the wayside while at the same time he improved offensively. He got into a lot of foul trouble though which is typical of rookies, explaining his low minutes. Gotta like that free throw percentage.
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Tim Duncan
http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/.e1d/img/4.0/global/basketball/nba/players/3173.jpg
30 minutes, 15.8 points, 12.2 rebounds, 2.3 assists, 1.1 steals, 1.25 blocks, 1.5 turnovers
53-for-117 from the field (.452%), 20-for-30 at the line (.667%)
Duncan almost met his career high in rebounding on this rodeo trip however that somewhat inflates his rebounding numbers.
:bang Why did I use that emoticon? His offense is missing-in-action. He's shooting only .452% from the field and .667% at the line. He is averaging a career low in minutes but its still a dip from his production earlier in the season. Duncan needs to find his touch again ASAP; he hasn't been able to take over games like he used to. He's on the verge of being part of 'the Bad' due to his offensive troubles....troubling to see him struggle against a Dalembert-less Philly team. It was around this time last season that he started to fall off production-wise but at least its just his offense so far...
THE BAD:
Tony Parker
http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/.e1d/img/4.0/global/basketball/nba/players/3527.jpg
32 minutes, 16.4 points, 6.8 assists, 2.2 turnovers
34-for-73 from the field (.465%), 3-for-7 on three-pointers (.428%), 11-for-15 at the line (.73%)
He was shooting over 50% from the field until his .111% performance against PHI . You know something's wrong with the Spurs when Parker is the best 3-point shooter and now with another injury its looking even more grim for San Antonio. The Spurs are going to miss his instant offense. He's listed here since he was only able to play in 5 of the Rodeo trip games.
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Richard Jefferson
http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/.e1d/img/4.0/global/basketball/nba/players/3523.jpg
30:30 minutes, 9.6 points, 1.6 assists, 3.5 rebounds, .87 turnovers
24-for-72 from the field (.333%), 6-for-19 on three-pointers (.315%), 23-29 free throws (.793%)
His effort seems to be improving and its refreshing to hear him acknowledge his shortcomings. Hopefully he continues to improve and it looks like he's going to have to earn a starter role and 4th quarter clutch minutes... I've got no problems with that as it should just fuel even more motivation.
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Keith Bogans
http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/.e1d/img/4.0/global/basketball/nba/players/3746.jpg
22.1 minutes, 3 points, 2 rebounds, 1.1 assists
10-for-25 from the field (.400%), 4-13 from 3 (.307%)
This guy seems to be getting a lot of hate nowadays however his stats aren't as bad as guys who are more deserving like Roger Mason Jr. Still thats not saying much, however at least he attempts to fill his role of being a Baby Bowen through a semblance of defensive effort and hustle. His numbers actually aren't all that bad and he's actually earning his role from that perspective. He could even be arguably in the "good" category if you take into consideration his relative numbers and contract $$$.
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Matt Bonner
http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/.e1d/img/4.0/global/basketball/nba/players/3748.jpg
11.7 minutes, 3.4 points, 1.2 rebounds,
7-for-20 from the field (.35%), 6-for-17 on three-pointers (.352%), 3-for-4 at the line (.75%)
He only averaged less than 12 minutes and didn't play in all of the games either; but he's still not back to pre-injury form and thankfully his low-minutes also signified such. He's on the verge of being a part of "the ugly" but his low minutes and games played saves him from that....for now.
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THE UGLY:
Roger Mason, Jr.
http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/images/basketball/nba/players/3628.jpg
20.1 minutes, 4.5 points, 1.7 assists, 1.5 rebounds
11-for-40 from the field (.275%), 5-for-24 on three-pointers (.208%), 5-for-5 at the line (100%)
I used to like Mason Jr. despite his one-dimensional game; hard to hate a guy after that X-Mas shot in Phoenix. But his recent trade talks (which are minor I admit) but most importantly, his appalling stats during the rodeo trip, shows that he might not deserve this fan's support. Holy shit, .208% from 3-point range?!?! :ihit :bang
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Michael Finley
http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/.e1d/img/4.0/global/basketball/nba/players/3023.jpg
9.2 minutes, 1 point, 1.75 rebounds
2-for-9 from the field (.222%), 1-for-7 on three-pointers (.142%)
He only played in five games in limited minutes (9) but still his stats don't show much. Doubt he'll get much more time since Mason Jr. wants those minutes but I think he puts up a better impact and effort defensively...then again thats not saying much.
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Ian Mahinmi
http://i.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/media/act_ian_mahinmi.jpg
2:30 minutes, 3 points, 1.5 rebounds, 2 turnovers
1-for-3 from the field
With Theo out he'll be grabbing whatever minutes those would be....but even in his limited minutes its apparent that he needs more time in the d-league which I'm sure the Spurs would oblige if they could. 2 turnovers in 2-and-a-half minutes? :wow
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TL/DR:
Injured Parker, most of our three-point shooters shooting well under their averages except Manu and Parker :wow, Duncan regressing offensively, and lacking defense are imo the biggest reasons why the Spurs didn't come out with more wins.
If these factors improve, which they should barring any serious injury, the Spurs just might finish this season off well.