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Winehole23
02-26-2010, 10:23 AM
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Eminent Domain as Central Planning (http://www.city-journal.org/2010/20_1_eminent-domain-abuse.html)


Wielding creative definitions of blight, New York runs roughshod over property rights and uproots viable neighborhoods.


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Tracy Collins
Houses to be condemned to make way for Atlantic Yards in Brooklyn. Look blighted to you?



Free markets are out of vogue. The unfortunate lesson that policymakers have learned over the past two years is that a big, brainy government that supposedly creates jobs is superior to irrational, faceless markets that just create catastrophic errors. So Washington has seized on the financial and economic crises to enlarge its role in managing the economy—controlling the insurance giant AIG, for example, and trying to maintain high housing prices through tax credits and “mortgage modification” programs.
But when it comes to central economic planning, New York City and State are way ahead of the feds. Empire State politicians from both parties already believe that it’s their responsibility to replace people and businesses in allocating the economy’s resources. They’re even confident that their duty to design a perfect economy trumps their constituents’ right to hold private property. Three current cases of eminent-domain abuse in New York show how serious they are—and how much damage such government intrusiveness can wreak.


Brooklyn’s Prospect Heights, industrial and forlorn for much of the late twentieth century, was looking better by 2003. Government was doing its proper job: crime was down, and the public-transit commute to midtown Manhattan, where many Brooklynites worked, was just 25 minutes. That meant that the private sector could do its job, too, rejuvenating the neighborhood after urban decay. Developers had bought 1920s-era factories and warehouses and converted them into condos for buyers like Daniel Goldstein, who paid $590,000 for a place in a former dry-goods warehouse in 2003. These new residents weren’t put off by the Metropolitan Transportation Authority’s railyards nearby, and they liked the hardwood floors and airy views typical of such refurbished buildings. They also settled in alongside longtime residents in little houses on quiet streets. Wealthier newcomers joined regulars at Freddy’s, a bar that predated Prohibition. Small businesses continued to employ skilled laborers in low-rise industrial buildings.


But Prospect Heights interested another investor: developer Bruce Ratner, who thought that the area would be perfect for high-rise apartments and office towers. Ratner didn’t want to do the piecemeal work of cajoling private owners into selling their properties, however. Instead, he appealed to the central-planning instincts of New York’s political class. Use the state’s power to seize the private property around the railyards, he told Governor George Pataki, Mayor Michael Bloomberg, and Brooklyn borough president Marty Markowitz. Transfer me the property, and let me buy the railyards themselves below the market price. I’ll build my development, Atlantic Yards, around a world-class basketball arena.


New York, in short, would give Ratner an unfair advantage, and he would return some of the profits reaped from that advantage by creating the “economic benefits” favored by the planning classes. Architecture critics loved Frank Gehry’s design for the arena. Race activist Al Sharpton loved the promise of thousands of minority jobs. The Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (Acorn) loved the prospect of administering the more than 2,000 units of “affordable” housing planned for the development, as well as the $1.5 million in loans and grants that Ratner gave it outright. When the state held public hearings in 2006 to decide whether to approve Atlantic Yards, hundreds of supplicants, hoping for a good job or a cheap apartment, easily drowned out the voices of people like Goldstein, who wanted nothing from the government except the right to keep their homes.


Can New York legally seize private property and transfer it to a developer purely for economic development? The Fifth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution allows the government to take property for a “public use,” long understood to mean such things as roads and railways, so long as it makes “just compensation” for them. Starting around the 1930s, a number of court cases began to broaden “public use” to include more nebulous “public purposes,” such as slum clearance. And in 2005, in Kelo v. New London, the Supreme Court decided that these “public purposes” could even include economic development. But New York’s constitution theoretically holds the state to a higher standard. In 1967, Empire State voters voted not to add a “public purpose” clause to their constitution, preferring to stick with the stricter requirement of “public use.”
The state hasn’t let this inconvenience derail its plans for Prospect Heights, however. For seven decades, courts have let New York seize and demolish slum housing if it’s blighted—which New York State defines as “substandard” and “unsanitary.” So the Urban Development Corporation (UDC), a public entity of New York State, decided that the “public use” of Atlantic Yards would be blight removal. The city had already designated part of the neighborhood as “blighted” 40 years earlier, long before its resurgence. As for the rest, the UDC commissioned consultants—previously employed by Ratner—who soon returned the requisite blight finding.
But wait, you say: people don’t buy half-million-dollar apartments in “substandard” or “unsanitary” neighborhoods. You’re right; that’s why the consultants had to stretch. In the 1930s, as Goldstein’s attorney, Matthew Brinckerhoff, pointed out, “substandard” and “unsanitary” meant “families and children dying from rampant fires and pestilence” in tuberculosis-ridden firetraps. In 2006, by contrast, the UDC’s consultants found “substandard” conditions in isolated graffiti, cracked sidewalks, and “underutilization”—that is, when property owners weren’t using their land to generate the social and economic benefits that the government desired.


In New York, this creative definition of blight is the new central-planning model. Consultants have also cited “underutilization” in West Harlem, where the city’s Economic Development Corporation wants to take land from private owners and hand it to Columbia University for an expansion project. Says Norman Siegel, who represents the owners: “A private property owner has the right to determine the best productive use of his property. It’s not a right to be ceded to any government.”


And in Queens, the Bloomberg administration is preparing a similar argument to grab swaths of Willets Point, an area adjacent to Citi Field that’s populated with auto-repair shops. The city’s recent “request for qualifications” from would-be developers drew a sharp response from the people who owned the land: “We . . . hold the most significant qualification of all: we own the properties. We are motivated to improve and use our own properties, consistent with the American free market system. We would have done so in spectacular fashion already, had the city upheld its end of the bargain by providing our neighborhood with essential services and infrastructure.” Instead, the city has done the opposite, letting streets disintegrate into ditches to bolster its blight finding. The perversity is astonishing: rather than doing its own job of maintaining public infrastructure and public safety, the government wants to do the private sector’s job—and is going about it by starving that private sector of public resources.


Property owners have looked to the judiciary to check the overweening grasp of the legislative and executive branches. But courts can be wrong for longer than it takes to save a neighborhood. In Brooklyn, Goldstein and his neighbors have lost their lawsuits—most recently, in New York’s highest court, the court of appeals. In November, the court decided 6–1 that “all that is at issue is a reasonable difference of opinion as to whether the area in question is in fact substandard and insanitary. This is not a sufficient predicate for us to supplant [the state’s] determination.” The court essentially abdicated its duty to protect property owners from the governor and the Legislature.


Nine days later, the West Harlem owners fared better in a lower court. The first department of the state supreme court’s appellate division found, 3–2, that the blight studies that the city and state had commissioned to justify their rapacity were “bereft of facts”—and further tainted by the fact that one blight consultant also worked for Columbia. The blight designation “is mere sophistry,” the majority concluded, “hatched to justify the employment of eminent domain.” The court further noted that “even a cursory examination of the study reveals the idiocy of considering things like unpainted block walls or loose awning supports as evidence of a blighted neighborhood. Virtually every neighborhood in the five boroughs will yield similar instances of disrepair.”


The selective and arbitrary process that deems one neighborhood blighted while leaving a similar neighborhood alone also violates due process, the justices went on, as “one is compelled to guess what subjective factors will be employed in each claim of blight.” Another violation: the government responded poorly to property owners’ document requests under the state’s freedom of information law, hampering their right to mount a solid case. Such requests are particularly important in eminent-domain cases because New York property owners don’t enjoy the right to a trial with a discovery phase, but must go straight to appeals court—a seventies-era “reform” meant to speed up development projects.


The Harlem owners were able to convince the lower court partly because they had commissioned their own “no-blight” study. “We said, ‘Let’s create our own record . . . as a counterweight,’ ” said Siegel. The owners also presented as evidence a government study, performed before Columbia showed interest in the land, that West Harlem was revitalizing itself. This is all very well—but property rights shouldn’t depend on owners’ creativity and resourcefulness in proving beyond all reasonable doubt that their land isn’t blighted.


Further, the lower-court ruling is a tenuous victory. The case is proceeding to the court of appeals, and though Siegel is “cautiously optimistic” that it will rule in his clients’ favor, there’s no way to be sure. Meantime, Goldstein and fellow residents and business owners in Brooklyn have asked the court of appeals to reconsider its Atlantic Yards ruling after it rules on Harlem. But the starkly different decisions in the Harlem and Brooklyn cases, coming so close together, have pointed up the need for the Legislature and Governor David Paterson to create clear standards for the government’s power to seize property.


An obvious step is to dispense with “underutilization” as a justification for a taking. As the court noted in the Harlem case, “the time has come to categorically reject eminent domain takings solely based on underutilization. This concept . . . transforms the purpose for blight removal from the elimination of harmful social and economic conditions . . . to a policy affirmatively requiring the ultimate commercial development of all property.”


But the state should go even further and eliminate blight itself as a justification for property seizure. Since the sixties, when creeping blight seemed to threaten the city’s existence, New York has learned that the real remedy for “substandard” conditions is good policing and infrastructure, which create the conditions for people and companies to move to neighborhoods and improve them. As for 1930s-style “unsanitary” conditions, modern health care, infrastructure, and building codes have eliminated them. Today, the biggest risks to public health are often on government property: dangerous elevators in public housing, for instance, or the 2007 fire that killed two firefighters in the Deutsche Bank building in lower Manhattan, owned by the city and state since 9/11. Unless it needs property to build a road, a subway line, a water-treatment plant, or a similar piece of truly public infrastructure—or unless a piece of land poses a clear and present danger to the public—the state should keep its hands off people’s property.


Eminent-domain abuse, dangerous though it is, is a symptom of a deeper problem: government officials’ belief that central planning is superior to free-market competition. That’s what New York has decided in each of its current eminent-domain cases. In Brooklyn, high-rise towers and an arena are better than a historic low-rise neighborhood; in Harlem, an elite university’s expansion project is better than continued private investment; and in Willets Point, Queens, almost anything is better than grubby body shops.


To cure yourself of the notion that the government can do better than free markets in producing economic vitality, stroll around Atlantic Yards. You’ll walk past three-story clapboard homes nestled next to elegantly corniced row houses—the supposedly blighted residences that the state plans to demolish. You’ll see the Spalding Building, a stately sporting-goods-factory-turned-condo-building that, thanks to Ratner and his government allies, has been slated for demolition and now stands empty. You’ll peer up at Goldstein’s nearly empty apartment house, scheduled to be condemned and destroyed.


And you’ll see how wrecking balls have already made the neighborhood gap-toothed. A vacant lot, for example, now sprawls where the historic Ward Bakery warehouse was, until recently, a candidate for private-sector reinvestment. Today, Prospect Heights finally shows what the state and city governments want everyone to see: decay. The decay, though, isn’t the work of callous markets that left the neighborhood to perish. It’s the work of a developer wielding state power to press property owners to sell their land “voluntarily.” It’s also the result of a half-decade’s worth of government-created uncertainty, which stopped genuine private investment in its tracks.


Such uncertainty offers a crucial lesson to the rest of the nation, and not just in the area of eminent domain. Whenever government fails to confine itself to a limited role in the economy, it creates similar uncertainty. Even when the results aren’t as poignantly obvious as they are in Brooklyn, the private economy suffers—whether it’s financial or auto bailouts unfairly benefiting some firms at the expense of others, or mortgage bailouts unfairly benefiting some home buyers at the expense of others. Free markets may be imperfect, but they’re far better than the alternative—the blight of arbitrary government control and the uncertainty that it creates.

EVAY
02-26-2010, 11:26 AM
I don't pretend to understand the intricacies of eminent domain law. I was stunned beyond belief when SCOTUS an eminent domain claim over someone's house that was in no way blighted, just because somebody wanted to expand a shopping center.

I was always under the (manifestly)erroneous belief that property in the U.S. was 'sacrosanct' for search and/or seizure by constitional protection. It has become increasingly clear that such is not the case, and anyone from a shopping center developer to a city or state or fed. gov't. can, whenever they take a mind to, just take what was private property and give you whatever the hell they choose to give you for it, which, of course, after they have 'blighted' it, no longer has its prior market value.

Folks scream and cry about what the gov't is and isn't doing, and whether or not we are headed toward socialism, but to me, this eminent domain issue cuts across both parties equally...because both parties take the campaign contributions from the guys who want the property blighted and taken down so they can move on it.

Wild Cobra
02-26-2010, 11:55 AM
In my opinion, Imminent Domain is too often abused. I don't believe it was ever meant to be used except when there was no other viable place to put something that is necessary.

panic giraffe
02-26-2010, 01:46 PM
progress can be ugly sometimes.

Winehole23
02-26-2010, 01:55 PM
Progress towards what, please?

boutons_deux
02-26-2010, 02:30 PM
Think Goldstein will get his $590K back, plus appreciation, plus costs of relocating?

The Repug-packed, radical activist "strict Constitutionalist" SCOTUS is an abomination, their decisions are always for institutions as preferred, protected, and empowered when in conflict with individuals.

Marcus Bryant
02-26-2010, 06:59 PM
Progress towards standardization, the great progressive desire. Well, "conservatives" seek that too.

Regressing to the mean has never been more patriotic.

boutons_deux
02-26-2010, 07:01 PM
"Progress towards standardization"

elliptical

Winehole23
04-27-2012, 01:28 PM
Ensuring “Just Compensation” for Takings of Property with Valuable Potential Future Uses (http://volokh.com/2012/04/26/ensuring-just-compensation-for-takings-of-property-with-valuable-potential-future-uses/)

Ilya Somin (http://volokh.com/author/ilya/) • April 26, 2012 3:04 pm


Famed property scholar Richard Epstein recently wrote an interesting post (http://ricochet.com/main-feed/Supreme-Court-Needs-to-Put-the-Just-Back-in-Just-Compensation) on an important Just Compensation Clause case that the Supreme Court is now considering whether to take:

[W]hen government [condemns private property] … it must pay just compensation to the landowner for the value of the property taken.



That guarantee will, however, surely be eviscerated if the state is free to set compensation below actual value. To avert that evasion, the United States Supreme Court held in 1893 that in condemnation cases, “the compensation must be a full and perfect equivalent for the property taken.” In an 1878 decision, the Court had previously elaborated on this standard as follows: “The inquiry in such cases must be what is the property worth in the market, viewed not merely with reference to the uses to which it is at the time applied, but with reference to the uses to which it is plainly adapted; that is to say, what is it worth from its availability for valuable uses.”


The point here is simple enough. The value of property in all circumstances depends on the future uses to which it can be put. It is those potential uses that determine its value. To measure property values in ways that neglect that future development is to allow the government to take property at bargain prices….


Unfortunately, this lesson has been lost on the New York courts in River Center, LLC v. Dormitory Authority of the State of New York (http://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/river-center-llc-v-the-dormitory-authority-of-new-york/)(DASNY) (2010). A petition for certiorari seeking to revisit the restrictive interpretation of the just compensation requirement in that case was filed by Harvard Law Professor Laurence Tribe. To show the broad nature of the appeal, that petition was supported by separate amicus briefs, one signed by former Attorney General Edwin Meese and a second by myself. This is an issue on which liberal, conservative and libertarian all see eye to eye.


The River Center dispute arose out of the condemnation of a valuable one-block site located in New York City several blocks south of Lincoln Center on New York City’s bustling West Side for a new dormitory for John Jay College… As Tribe wrote in his petition: “The developer at the time of the condemnation had invested years of work and many millions of dollars above the secured debt. By its legal rulings the New York Court has permitted all of this value and all of this investment in a rising market to be taken without compensation. . .”


The technique used to work this governmental sleight of hand was simple. The New York state courts treated this prime real estate site in active development as though it were “vacant land” on the ground that the arduous development progress would not come “to fruition in the near future….”



The New York courts dismissed as “speculative” all of the developer’s work in securing permits, preparing the site, obtaining interim financing and developing a viable marketing plan. That argument might make sense in those cases where there was no market indication of present value. But the real estate market is active in New York City and projects like this are always attractive to private investors who see risky, but large, returns down the road.
One of the few issues on which takings scholars across the political spectrum mostly agree on is that the Just Compensation Clause of the Fifth Amendment requires the government to at least pay market value for condemned property.


There is disagreement over whether it should have to pay more than market value to compensate owners for loss of “subjective value” they attach to the property above its market price. But there is a broad consensus that the state should at least pay the market value. That’s why Richard Epstein, Laurence Tribe, and Edwin Meese all agree on this case.


And the market value of any property surely includes expected future uses, including uses that may not be 100% likely to occur. To be sure, the lower the likelihood of the future use, the less the possibility of it happening will add to the market value of the land in question. But that is no justification for excluding potential future uses from the market value calculation entirely.



If New York officials are allowed to get away with such shenanigans, they will be able to strategically time condemnations in order to lowball owners with potentially valuable future projects that have not yet come to fruition.
http://volokh.com/2012/04/26/ensuring-just-compensation-for-takings-of-property-with-valuable-potential-future-uses/

Winehole23
04-27-2012, 01:28 PM
dp

greyforest
04-27-2012, 02:01 PM
In my opinion, Imminent Domain is too often abused. I don't believe it was ever meant to be used except when there was no other viable place to put something that is necessary.

Stupid liberal, always wanting to add regulations. More freedom is always better.

Winehole23
05-16-2012, 08:20 AM
Eminent Domain Abuse in Virginia (http://volokh.com/2012/05/15/eminent-domain-abuse-in-virginia/)

Ilya Somin (http://volokh.com/author/ilya/) • May 15, 2012 11:20 am


Richmond Times-Dispatch columnist A. Barton Hinkle recently published this piece (http://www2.timesdispatch.com/news/oped/2012/may/08/tdopin02-hinkle-norfolk-tries-to-impose-radio-sile-ar-1897904/)on a case of eminent domain abuse in Virginia:

As a general rule, progressives do not get worked up about property rights the way conservatives do. This is a mistake — as a case out of Norfolk shows.


To the progressive eye, property is bound up with materialism and wealth and greed and other yucky things. But property is also bound up with some things progressives hold dear. And even progressives were outraged when, in its 2005 Kelo decision, the Supreme Court said governments could take property from the poor and give to the rich.
That is what has been happening in Norfolk, where the city’s Redevelopment and Housing Authority has been using eminent domain to take dozens of pieces of private property for resale to a foundation run by Old Dominion University. The housing authority has been collecting commissions on the sales; the foundation has then been turning the property over to developers for their use as part of a swanky new University Village.


Among those properties is the building that houses Central Radio, whose story was detailed here back in May 2010. Some years ago, Norfolk offered to buy the property for a lowball price of $700,000 (more than a decade before, a developer had offered more than $1 million). Central Radio’s president, Bob Wilson, turned the city down. So the city slapped a spurious designation of “blighted” on the property and condemned it.


Norfolk couldn’t get away with that today. Virginia’s General Assembly has sharply curtailed such abusive use of eminent domain, precisely because of cases such as this one and others like it….


But the legislature’s changes to eminent-domain law included a grandfather clause, allowing Norfolk to proceed. Wilson is naturally cheesed off. He has vented his frustration by putting up on the side of his building a protest banner. (“50 years on this street,” it reads. “78 years in Norfolk. 100 workers. Threatened by eminent domain.” The words “eminent domain abuse” are surrounded by a red circle with a slash through it.)


But Norfolk officials apparently feel it is not enough to take away Wilson’s property. They also are trying to take away his right to free speech, by insisting that his banner violates the city’s sign ordinance….
Hinkle correctly notes that this is just one of several recent cases around the country in which local governments and influential developers not only engaged in dubious takings, but also tried to prevent property owners from speaking out against them. As he also points out, Virginia is one of a minority of states that has enacted strong post-Kelo eminent domain reform that will constrain abusive condemnations in the future. But as I documented in this article (http://ssrn.com/abstract=976298), in many other states reform still has a long way to go. Even in Virginia, eminent domain reform will not be fully secure in the long run until it has been incorporated into the state constitution, as well as statutory law (http://volokh.com/2011/11/26/the-political-battle-over-eminent-domain-reform-in-virginia/).



Because blight and “economic development” takings tend to victimize the poor and politically weak for the benefit of the wealthy and politically powerful, they have generated widespread opposition on the left as well as the right (http://feedproxy.google.com/%7Er/volokh/mainfeed/%7E3/6iIL3UYArhk/). We will need greater cross-ideological cooperation on this issue to fully address the problem.
http://volokh.com/2012/05/15/eminent-domain-abuse-in-virginia/

coyotes_geek
05-16-2012, 08:50 AM
With so many governments hard pressed for tax revenue, I'm sure this ED issue is going to become bigger and bigger.

baseline bum
05-16-2012, 08:58 AM
To the progressive eye, property is bound up with materialism and wealth and greed and other yucky things.

What a load of crap this line is, winehole.

Sec24Row7
05-16-2012, 09:02 AM
A decade-long struggle to strengthen Texas private property rights ended successfully this week as Senate Bill 18, the eminent domain reform bill, became law. Governor Rick Perry signed the bill at the state capitol on Monday, May 23.


“Congratulations, Texas. Eminent domain has been reformed!” said Texas Farm Bureau President Kenneth Dierschke.

The reform of Texas eminent domain laws has been the top priority of Texas Farm Bureau for three legislative sessions, Dierschke said. In 2007, the bill passed overwhelmingly in both the House and Senate before being vetoed. In 2009, it passed overwhelmingly in the Senate before being held up in a legislative logjam.

“This legislation is a solution to the unfair treatment many property owners have been subjected to in the condemnation process,” Dierschke said. “The take-it-or-leave-it attitude displayed by some condemning authorities will be replaced by good faith and cooperation.

“Equally important, with passage of Senate Bill 18, farmers and ranchers have extended the respect they have for the land and private property rights to the laws of the State of Texas.”

With the signature of the governor, this important private property rights legislation assures that:

Private property can be acquired only for a public purpose, not for private benefit.
Condemning entities must make a good faith offer before the beginning of the condemnation process.
Property owners will have a stronger voice in determining who decides what damages are owed if condemnation proceedings occur.
Property owners will be compensated for damages from a loss of direct access to their property and receive relocation assistance when forced from their property.
Property owners—under certain conditions—will have the right to repurchase their property at the original value after 10 years.
“All Texans will benefit from this new law which ensures a fair and open process for landowners when eminent domain is exercised for the public good,” Dierschke said. “There are so many people to thank: Gov. Rick Perry, who designated eminent domain as an emergency item and signed the bill; Sen. Craig Estes, the author; Rep. Charlie Geren, who shepherded it through the House; Agriculture Commissioner Todd Staples, an ardent supporter of reform; Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst, House Speaker Joe Straus and House Land and Resource Management Committee Chair Rene Oliveira for guiding this important bill through the legislative process; and all the legislators who kept eminent domain reform a legislative priority for three sessions and the new lawmakers who came on board.”

Winehole23
05-16-2012, 09:03 AM
What a load of crap this line is, winehole.sweeping generalizations are generally worthless, except to thrill the like minded and enrage ones adversaries.

cat and a ball of yarn; no one like being the ball of yarn.

boutons_deux
05-16-2012, 09:06 AM
"progressives do not get worked up about property rights the way conservatives do

To the progressive eye, property is bound up with materialism and wealth and greed"

WTF? evidence that progressives don't get worked up when ED fucks over the poor and unpowerful?

here's a TX version:

An Old Texas Tale Retold: the Farmer vs. the Oil Company

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/08/us/old-texas-tale-retold-farmer-vs-transcanada.html?partner=rss&emc=rss

I suppose carbon-loving pussy eater is a 200% XL supporter, no matter what the costs.

baseline bum
05-16-2012, 09:06 AM
sweeping generalizations are generally worthless except to thrill the like minded and enrage ones adversaries. cat and a ball of yarn.

How could a reasonable person not get offended by an ignorant Coulter-esque topic sentence that is basically calling progressives communists?

boutons_deux
05-16-2012, 09:07 AM
...

Winehole23
05-16-2012, 09:10 AM
How could a reasonable person not get offended by an ignorant Coulter-esque topic sentence that is basically calling progressives communists?we have two centrist liberal parties, substantively very close together, who go around calling each other commies and fascists.

it is annoying.

Winehole23
05-16-2012, 01:59 PM
OTOH, owing to our peculiar tradition of radical expressive freedom in politics, there are more than a few actual commies and fascists out there, but agreed, the fellow traveler card is pretty played out

Marcus Bryant
05-16-2012, 09:35 PM
No mention of Jane Jacobs yet.

That the modern aesthetic would require the abuse of government power at the expense of individual liberty to mandate a certain soulless style is not surprising. But community is no longer about physical proximity, but rather mental connections at a distance. Freedom of variety in physical space becomes less tolerated, or less important.

Winehole23
08-26-2012, 07:31 AM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ellen-brown/gamechange-bain-vs-mers_b_1820591.html

Winehole23
05-10-2016, 09:23 AM
West Texas edition:


James Spriggs, a 70-year-old west Texas rancher, is dealing with what he calls a lose-lose situation. Spriggs owns a 4,400-acre ranch south of Marfa and is one of about (http://defendbigbend.blogspot.com/2016/05/dont-tread-on-us.html) 45 landowners in the Big Bend region recently slapped with a condemnation lawsuit by Energy Transfer Partners, a Dallas company looking to build a 143-mile pipeline from Texas into Mexico.

Once constructed, the Trans-Pecos pipeline would move natural gas from the Permian Basin to Mexico, crossing some of the last remaining pristine parts of the state. In the last year, Energy Transfer Partners (ETP) has faced fierce opposition (http://insideclimatenews.org/news/08092015/west-texas-residents-raise-fight-Trans-Pecos-pipeline-Mexico-natural-gas) from a coalition of conservationists and ranchers. They worry that the pipeline will pose a threat to public safety and that it will destroy the natural beauty that Big Bend is known for.

https://www.texasobserver.org/big-bend-eminent-domain/

Winehole23
05-11-2016, 07:15 AM
oh but it's ok when an energy company does it