Is the NBA fixed?

[AussieFanKurt]

What you think? Compared to the league I follow in Australia in a different sport. The NBA appears to be more fixed and controlled. I dont know. What you guys think

[BRHornet45]

lol son is the WWE scripted?

[GeraldWallace]

Most corrupt league on earth but pays me wages ;)

[Xevious]

I think influenced may be a better word. If it was flat out fixed, the small market Spurs wouldn't have won jack shit.

But the Gasol and Garnett trades happening during or before the same season, leading a Boston/LA finals? It does raise an eyebrow.

[bdictjames]

There's always a gray area in between; I agree, influenced may be a better term.

[nkdlunch]

of course it is. what a silly question.

[DAF86]

I don't know if "fixed" is the word, "shaded" is more accurate. From time to time they will try to make something happen for the benefit of the bussiness. And I say try 'cause I don't think Stern or whoever says to the refs "tonight 'team A' has to win at all cause" they will try to mask the message by saying things like "player B isn't getting enough calls", "look what this team is doing, you should start calling this more often" or things like that. So when a team is clearly better than the other there's no problem, the thing is when the two teams are evenly matched.

[djohn2oo8]

I don't know if "fixed" is the word, "shaded" is more accurate. From time to time they will try to make something happen for the benefit of the bussiness. And I say try 'cause I don't think Stern or whoever says to the refs "tonight 'team A' has to win at all cause" they will try to mask the message by saying things like "player B isn't getting enough calls", "look what this team is doing, you should start calling this more often" or things like that. So when a team is clearly better than the other there's no problem, the thing is when the two teams are evenly matched.

2002 Kings

[z0sa]

It's a big business, big business is about money and image, so anything they can do to maximize profits while keeping their image.

Why do you think the refs can't be scrutinized publicly, for example? There's "logical" reasoning like keeping the players in check from constantly complaining and affecting ref mindsets, but it's much easier to sweep complaints under the rug when only the team complaining and the League Office knows about them.

[AussieFanKurt]

sometimes its hard to watch the game with LeCrab getting every call he wants and the shit teams just getting shitter etc

[ChumpDumper]

When my team loses, it's definitely fixed.

When my team wins, it's definitely not fixed.

[ffadicted]

Not fixed, no, definitly influenced

[Muser]

Every sport will have some kind of influence. Even the best Refs will have some form of Bias towards a certain team.

[Mike D]

Not fixed, no, definitly influenced
.

[MarCowMar]

I voted "no" because I don't believe it's fixed at the league level. That is I don't believe Stern or any higher up is making it so that big market teams are in the finals more often.

We've had four Spurs championships and LeBron James is in Cleveland Ohio (wherever that is). The league can't be rigged to any measurable degree.

What I do think occurs is that refs manipulate and toy with players at the game level. The refs have favorites and players they hate. They make calls based on their moods or the intensity of the crowd. They make calls to show off or make themselves look good. They might occassionaly do it to throw a game some team's way, but it has more to do with their own personal wagers, grudges, and crushes than league conspiracies.

But what's funny is that despite all that the players still like the regular refs more than the replacements. :)

[Galileo]

NBA: Where Rigged Games Happens
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4t5RMFt5u8

[JJ Hickson]

The fact that the MAJORITY of you honestly think the NBA is fixed just boggles my fucking mind. I always knew that there were a lot of stupid motherfuckers on this website (that's no secret) but I had no idea the epidemic was this widespread. I don't know whats more sad, that y'all think the league is rigged or that you continue to watch it, spend money on it and post on message boards all day about an allegedly fake game. If you invest that much time, energy and money into something that isn't even real then you might want to look into getting a fuckin life.

[Galileo]

NBA Turns a Blind Eye... Again
by Tim Donaghy
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tim-donaghy/nba-turns-a-blind-eye-aga_b_482516.html

[cobbler]

The fact that the MAJORITY of you honestly think the NBA is fixed just boggles my fucking mind. I always knew that there were a lot of stupid motherfuckers on this website (that's no secret) but I had no idea the epidemic was this widespread. I don't know whats more sad, that y'all think the league is rigged or that you continue to watch it, spend money on it and post on message boards all day about an allegedly fake game. If you invest that much time, energy and money into something that isn't even real then you might want to look into getting a fuckin life.

+ 9999999...

Anyone who voted yes, still watches and then bitches about the calls etc is wasting valuable oxygen. Just head back into the trailer and keep cooking your meth. Friggen tools.

[baseline bum]

If the league was fixed we would have never seen Finals like San Antonio-New Jersey, San Antonio-Cleveland, or Portland-Detroit. What a ridiculous question.

[Galileo]

If the league was fixed we would have never seen Finals like San Antonio-New Jersey, San Antonio-Cleveland, or Portland-Detroit. What a ridiculous question.

That's just plain stupid.

:downspin:

[mojorizen7]

Basically, if your team has never won a championship then yes, its fixed.
Otherwise, no.
My answer is obviously..."YES." :lol

I will add this, seriously. Sterns referees should have been scoured,replaced,refreshed,re-evaluated,scrutinized,forced to resign,taken off the payroll, whatever, etc etc etc...after the Donaghy fiasco.
"He worked alone." Yeah right. :rolleyes
"Independant investigation." Yeah...uhhuh.

[bostonguy]

Why is this news to anyone? BR has said it numerous times that the wwe and the nba merged together years ago. The storyline scripts for this year are Kobe and Lebron. That is their Stone Cold and Rock. The Nuggets/Magic will be the Bret Harts. Stern will screw them over Montreal style. They just are finding the right script to go along with this storyline.

[baseline bum]

That's just plain stupid.

:downspin:

So the league actively pushes teams that will give them bad ratings and cost them huge money when they could just have a Rockets-Lakers WCF every year and have half the US + half the third world tuning in?

[diego]

As Donaghy himself demonstrated, it doesn't take some high crime mafia mass conspiracy for the refereeing and by extension part of the outcome to be tampered.

the nba has mechanisms in place to stop it, because its a high stakes competitive environment (like any other sports league) and there are always going to be people who try to get an advantage. we see it all the time with the lobbying and teams sending footage etc. of course people are trying to pull stuff under the table.

on top of that, refs are human and won't always see the play anyway.

i think they could do a much better job, but i also think there are so many rules and the game is so fast that its impossible for a game to go without constant whistles. the more calls they have to make, the more chance for mistakes.

I think the players decide it, but like DAF86 said, when evenly matched up, that can make just enough difference to be all the difference.

[Amarelooms]

Evidence #1...Miami Cheat win over the Mavs :elephant

[Galileo]

Basically, if your team has never won a championship then yes, its fixed.
Otherwise, no.
My answer is obviously..."YES." :lol

I will add this, seriously. Sterns referees should have been scoured,replaced,refreshed,re-evaluated,scrutinized,forced to resign,taken off the payroll, whatever, etc etc etc...after the Donaghy fiasco.
"He worked alone." Yeah right. :rolleyes
"Independant investigation." Yeah...uhhuh.

Donaghy was a "lone nut". Just like:

John Hinckley, Jr. (Ronald Reagan - 1981)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hinckley,_Jr.

Mark David Chapman (John Lennon - 1980)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_David_Chapman

Arthur Bremer (George Wallace - 1972)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Bremer

Sirhan Sirhan (Robert F. Kennedy - 1968)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirhan_Sirhan

James Earl Ray (Martin Luther King - 1968)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Earl_Ray

Talmadge Hayer (Malcom X - 1965)
http://www.biography.com/articles/Talmadge-Hayer-235817

Jack Ruby (Lee Harvey Oswald - 1963)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Ruby

Lee Harvey Oswald (John F. Kennedy - 1963)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Harvey_Oswald

Nathuram Godse (Mahatma Gandhi - 1948)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathuram_Godse

Carl Weiss (Huey Long - 1935)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Weiss

Gavrilo Princip (Archduke Franz Ferdinand - 1914)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gavrilo_Princip

John Flammang Schrank (Teddy Roosevelt - 1912)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Schrank

Leon Czolgosz (William McKinley - 1901)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leon_Czolgosz

Charles J. Guiteau (James Garfield - 1881)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_J._Guiteau

James Wilkes Booth (Abraham Lincoln - 1865)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Wilkes_Booth

Richard Lawrence (Andrew Jackson - 1835)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Lawrence_(failed_assassin)

John Bellingham (Spencer Perceval - 1812)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Bellingham

François Ravaillac (King Henry IV of France - 1610)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fran%C3%A7ois_Ravaillac

Guy Fawkes (King James I - 1605)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Fawkes

Jacques Clément (King Henry III of France - 1589)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Cl%C3%A9ment

Marcus Brutus (Julius Caesar - 44 b.c.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Junius_Brutus_the_Younger

Pausanias of Orestis (King Philip of Macedon - 336 b.c.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pausanias_of_Orestis

:hat

[jack sommerset]

I definitely have lost interest in the NBA the past few years because I think it's fixed. Too many things don't add up. Then Tim Donaghy gets busted and says more are involved. Stern disappears, he used to be all over the place. The "Superstars" get the calls and I am so tired of that bullshit unwritten rule/law. The refs have way 2 much power. I am not all that into the league anymore. I'll watch a game once a week, maybe 2. I used to have the NBA pass and would watch 1-2 a night. There is my 2 cents.

[Blake]

2002 Kings

not really.

[mavs>spurs2]

I definitely have lost interest in the NBA the past few years because I think it's fixed. Too many things don't add up. Then Tim Donaghy gets busted and says more are involved. Stern disappears, he used to be all over the place. The "Superstars" get the calls and I am so tired of that bullshit unwritten rule/law. The refs have way 2 much power. I am not all that into the league anymore. I'll watch a game once a week, maybe 2. I used to have the NBA pass and would watch 1-2 a night. There is my 2 cents.

that's exactly how i feel, except the mavs recent resurgence has sparked my interest slightly once again

[Lars]

I think there are games influenced to extend playoff series, but not directly determing who advances.

I think the stars get preferential treatment so there is more marketability but that is for stats, not for wins.

[JoeTait75]

I think there are games influenced to extend playoff series, but not directly determing who advances.

This. I think anyone who watched Game 6 of the 2002 WCF knew it was "influenced" but Game 7 was on the level. The officials weren't trying to give L.A. the series- just that game, and the extended series.

I think the officials are influenced to lengthen series in general. Frankly, they were trying to hand the Cavaliers Game 3 of the 2007 Finals- the Cavaliers just weren't good enough to take it.

[mojorizen7]

Donaghy was a "lone nut". Just like:

John Hinckley, Jr. (Ronald Reagan - 1981)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hinckley,_Jr.

Mark David Chapman (John Lennon - 1980)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_David_Chapman

Arthur Bremer (George Wallace - 1972)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Bremer

Sirhan Sirhan (Robert F. Kennedy - 1968)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirhan_Sirhan

James Earl Ray (Martin Luther King - 1968)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Earl_Ray

Talmadge Hayer (Malcom X - 1965)
http://www.biography.com/articles/Talmadge-Hayer-235817

Jack Ruby (Lee Harvey Oswald - 1963)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Ruby

Lee Harvey Oswald (John F. Kennedy - 1963)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Harvey_Oswald

Nathuram Godse (Mahatma Gandhi - 1948)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathuram_Godse

Carl Weiss (Huey Long - 1935)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Weiss

Gavrilo Princip (Archduke Franz Ferdinand - 1914)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gavrilo_Princip

John Flammang Schrank (Teddy Roosevelt - 1912)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Schrank

Leon Czolgosz (William McKinley - 1901)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leon_Czolgosz

Charles J. Guiteau (James Garfield - 1881)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_J._Guiteau

James Wilkes Booth (Abraham Lincoln - 1865)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Wilkes_Booth

Richard Lawrence (Andrew Jackson - 1835)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Lawrence_(failed_assassin)

John Bellingham (Spencer Perceval - 1812)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Bellingham

François Ravaillac (King Henry IV of France - 1610)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fran%C3%A7ois_Ravaillac

Guy Fawkes (King James I - 1605)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Fawkes

Jacques Clément (King Henry III of France - 1589)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Cl%C3%A9ment

Marcus Brutus (Julius Caesar - 44 b.c.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Junius_Brutus_the_Younger

Pausanias of Orestis (King Philip of Macedon - 336 b.c.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pausanias_of_Orestis

:hat

:lol:lol:lol
:wakeup:wakeup:wakeup

[lefty]

I definitely have lost interest in the NBA the past few years because I think it's fixed. Too many things don't add up. Then Tim Donaghy gets busted and says more are involved. Stern disappears, he used to be all over the place. The "Superstars" get the calls and I am so tired of that bullshit unwritten rule/law. The refs have way 2 much power. I am not all that into the league anymore. I'll watch a game once a week, maybe 2. I used to have the NBA pass and would watch 1-2 a night. There is my 2 cents.
+1

Not to mention that most teams/players today would have sucked in the 80's/early 90's

[Pelicans78]

Anyone watching the Hornets-Mavs game this past Sunday night should raise an eyebrow. The Mavs are clearly more talented, deeper, and at home. They were dominating with a 25 point lead in the 3rd quarter, yet the Hornets come back and almost win the game. The game was fixed to allow the Hornets to come back and keep the excitement and viewership. This stuff happens routinely in the NBA when it probably shouldn't. The league is definitely fixed.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Of course it's not. If it was, the Spurs wouldn't have 4 rings and LBJ would have 3 by now. To fix something like the NBA you'd need a conspiracy of hundreds to thousands of people, and there would have been a whistle blower by now. No way.

However, that doesn't mean that there aren't superstars for whom the game is called differently (there certainly are).

[Kamnik]

Of course it's not. If it was, the Spurs wouldn't have 4 rings and LBJ would have 3 by now. To fix something like the NBA you'd need a conspiracy of hundreds to thousands of people, and there would have been a whistle blower by now. No way.

However, that doesn't mean that there aren't superstars for whom the game is called differently (there certainly are).

What he said.

[AussieFanKurt]

I definitely have lost interest in the NBA the past few years because I think it's fixed. Too many things don't add up. Then Tim Donaghy gets busted and says more are involved. Stern disappears, he used to be all over the place. The "Superstars" get the calls and I am so tired of that bullshit unwritten rule/law. The refs have way 2 much power. I am not all that into the league anymore. I'll watch a game once a week, maybe 2. I used to have the NBA pass and would watch 1-2 a night. There is my 2 cents.

yeah this is how i feel. the fact the game is officiated in an unfair way just ruins it. and how stern is always the white knight etc. pisses me off

[Galileo]

Of course it's not. If it was, the Spurs wouldn't have 4 rings and LBJ would have 3 by now.

Tim would have had 6 rings without the fix.


To fix something like the NBA you'd need a conspiracy of hundreds to thousands of people,

The conspiracy to keep black people enslaved involved hundreds of thousands of white people.


and there would have been a whistle blower by now. No way.

Tim Donaghy is a whisleblower and he came out a long time ago.


However, that doesn't mean that there aren't superstars for whom the game is called differently (there certainly are).

If you believe in that conspiracy, why not believe that Stern fixes the NBA?

:flag:

[JoeTait75]

The conspiracy to keep black people enslaved involved hundreds of thousands of white people.

Huh? That wasn't a conspiracy, that was an open, legal business. "Conspiracy" implies a secret plan to perform an illegal or nefarious act. There was no need to keep the slave trade a secret because it was perfectly legal. Bizarre analogy and not even close to the mark.

[Galileo]

Huh? That wasn't a conspiracy, that was an open, legal business. "Conspiracy" implies a secret plan to perform an illegal or nefarious act. There was no need to keep the slave trade a secret because it was perfectly legal. Bizarre analogy and not even close to the mark.

Slavery was nefarious, and has always been an illegal transgression of natural law. That is how large scale conspiracies operate, they are accepted as OK by the participants. A lot of NBA executives think its OK to fix the NBA so they can make more money.

Also, many conspiracies are made legal by powerful people, like the bailouts of the gigantic banks last year, or of AIG. These bailouts violate the text of the US Constitution and violate any sense of fairness under moral law.

[badfish22]

Tim would have had 6 rings without the fix.



:lmao
Actually, if you believe Donaghys story, series were fixed FOR the Spurs.

[Phillip]

lol austrailia

[Galileo]

"The Spurs were a good team. Yes, they did earn them [4 rings], the league certainly didn't want a small market team like the Spurs in the NBA Finals every year."

Tim Donaghy

http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?topic=13078&post=88665&uid=190036783555#post88665

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Tim would have had 6 rings without the fix.



The conspiracy to keep black people enslaved involved hundreds of thousands of white people.



Tim Donaghy is a whisleblower and he came out a long time ago.



If you believe in that conspiracy, why not believe that Stern fixes the NBA?

:flag:


Were your parents siblings?

[mavsfan1000]

NBA: Where Rigged Games Happens
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4t5RMFt5u8
lol They need to include the 2006 finals on that.

[Goran Dragic]

Slavery was nefarious, and has always been an illegal transgression of natural law. That is how large scale conspiracies operate, they are accepted as OK by the participants. A lot of NBA executives think its OK to fix the NBA so they can make more money.

Also, many conspiracies are made legal by powerful people, like the bailouts of the gigantic banks last year, or of AIG. These bailouts violate the text of the US Constitution and violate any sense of fairness under moral law.


Conspiracies are never legal you moronic fat beaner. If something is legal it's not a conspiracy.

[Galileo]

Conspiracies are never legal you moronic fat beaner. If something is legal it's not a conspiracy.

What about an illegal conspiracy that is declared legal?

:lmao

[Goran Dragic]

What about an illegal conspiracy that is declared legal?

:lmao


God damn you're dumb. I'm truly amazed that someone with as much frontal lobe damage as you have is even able to turn a computer on.

[Allanon]

You have 4 championships by a Big Market team (Lakers) and 4 championships by a small market team (Spurs) in 11 years.

This is proof that there's no rigging or proof that Stern was great enough to rig 8 championships without anybody finding out.

I believe the Lakers and Spurs won fair and square. Take your pick :lol

[Galileo]

You have 4 championships by a Big Market team (Lakers) and 4 championships by a small market team (Spurs) in 11 years.

This is proof that there's no rigging or proof that Stern was great enough to rig 8 championships without anybody finding out.

I believe the Lakers and Spurs won fair and square. Take your pick :lol

Getting Gasol wasn't a rig job?

:nope

[Allanon]

Getting Gasol wasn't a rig job?

:nope

Nah no rig job.

Pau Gasoft 17 points, 11 rebounds - $16 million year (soon to be $20 million/year)
Marc Gasol 15 points, 9 rebounds - $3 million year. Marc will never be called "Gasoft"

Lakers would have been better set for the future if Chris Wallace hadn't robbed Marc Gasol from the Lakers. Lakers could have used Kwame's salary on another $10 million player and fixed their PG problem.

Marc Gasol right now is a far better deal than Pau.

[Goran Dragic]

Getting Gasol wasn't a rig job?

:nope


If everything is rigged, why is it that Stern chose to give Tim Duncan to the Spurs (who had an 8% chance at getting him) when he could have given him to the Celtics, who had a 25% chance at getting him.

[Galileo]

God damn you're dumb. I'm truly amazed that someone with as much frontal lobe damage as you have is even able to turn a computer on.

Dude, there are a lot of things that are illegal, unless you get away with it. The American Revolution was illegal, you know. But after Yorktown & the Treaty of Paris it became legal.

Coup d'etats are also illegal conspiracies, unless you win.

Wake the flock up!

:sleep

[Goran Dragic]

Dude, there are a lot of things that are illegal, unless you get away with it. The American Revolution was illegal, you know. But after Yorktown & the Treaty of Paris it became legal.

Coup d'etats are also illegal conspiracies, unless you win.

Wake the flock up!

:sleep


Does wearing tin foil on your head ever get uncomfortable?

[Galileo]

Does wearing tin foil on your head ever get uncomfortable?

Did George Washington wear a tinfoil cap when he led his illegal conspiracy against the British crown?

Did you attend a public school?

[Galileo]

If everything is rigged, why is it that Stern chose to give Tim Duncan to the Spurs (who had an 8% chance at getting him) when he could have given him to the Celtics, who had a 25% chance at getting him.

You are playing the strawman. I never said everything is rigged. To rig the NBA you only need to rig a few things here and there. They already rigged the 1985 draft, and they were pressing their luck in that regard.

You have answered my question, you did go to a public school.

[Goran Dragic]

Did George Washington wear a tinfoil cap when he led his illegal conspiracy against the British crown?

Did you attend a public school?


Answer my question about the 1997 draft lottery.

Do you even know what a conspiracy is?

[Goran Dragic]

You have answered my question, you did go to a public school.


Yes I did go to a public school, what's your conspiracy theory about that.....do the alien invaders control public schooling or something?

[Goran Dragic]

You are playing the strawman. I never said everything is rigged. To rig the NBA you only need to rig a few things here and there. They already rigged the 1985 draft, and they were pressing their luck in that regard.

You have answered my question, you did go to a public school.



How do you know which drafts are rigged and which ones aren't exactly?

[Galileo]

Answer my question about the 1997 draft lottery.

Do you even know what a conspiracy is?

The 1997 draft lottery wasn't rigged. I have no knowledge of any rigged drafts since 1985.

But remember, there have only been a few players viewed as surefire franchise & hall-of-fame players in the NBA draft since 1985:

Ewing 1985
DRob 1987
Danny Manning (maybe) 1988
Shack 1992
Alonzo Mourning (maybe) 1992
Webber (maybe) 1993
Tim Duncan 1997
Yao Ming (maybe) 2002
Lebron James 2003

So these are the only drafts worth fixing.

[Galileo]

How do you know which drafts are rigged and which ones aren't exactly?

Did you know you have a growth coming out of the side of your head?

:lmao

[Goran Dragic]

The 1997 draft lottery wasn't rigged. I have no knowledge of any rigged drafts since 1985.



What factual knowledge do you have the 1985 draft was rigged?

[Galileo]

Yes I did go to a public school, what's your conspiracy theory about that.....do the alien invaders control public schooling or something?

The public schools are pathetic. Take a look at the product they turn out. You didn't even know the first thing about the Amercian Revolution. Your knowledge of basketball conspiracies is lacking as well.

:rolleyes

[Goran Dragic]

The public schools are pathetic. Take a look at the product they turn out. You didn't even know the first thing about the Amercian Revolution. Your knowledge of basketball conspiracies is lacking as well.

:rolleyes


:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[Galileo]

What factual knowledge do you have the 1985 draft was rigged?

David Stern Fixing 1985 Draft Lottery *HIGH QUALITY*
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mN3OGRGybA

:depressed

[Goran Dragic]

The public schools are pathetic. Take a look at the product they turn out. You didn't even know the first thing about the Amercian Revolution. Your knowledge of basketball conspiracies is lacking as well.

:rolleyes


Do you have any factual knowledge to back your conspiracy theories about basketball?

[Goran Dragic]

David Stern Fixing 1985 Draft Lottery *HIGH QUALITY*
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mN3OGRGybA

:depressed

:lmao I said factual.

[Goran Dragic]

Whops, I found a random youtube video saying the Suns Spurs series in 2007 was rigged, looks like the Spurs 2007 championship is a conspiracy!

fvkKdXLwt0U

[Galileo]

Do you have any factual knowledge to back your conspiracy theories about basketball?

Tim Donaghy provided evidence via direct testimony. Testimony is evidence in a court of law, it is not a theory.

Why are you asking this? Have you not heard of Tim Donaghy before?

:nope

[Galileo]

Whops, I found a random youtube video saying the Suns Spurs series in 2007 was rigged, looks like the Spurs 2007 championship is a conspiracy!

fvkKdXLwt0U

You have some real wacky conspiracy theories. What is the motive for your alleged conspiracy? Just becasue something is on youtube, doesn't make it true. Please stop spreading disinformation. Tim Donaghy said 2007 was on the level.

:p:

[Goran Dragic]

Tim Donaghy provided evidence via direct testimony. Testimony is evidence in a court of law, it is not a theory.

Why are you asking this? Have you not heard of Tim Donaghy before?

:nope


Tim Donaghy also said the Spurs Suns series in 2007 was rigged in favor of the Spurs. By your logic that everything Tim Donaghy says is 100% factual, that means it is fact the Spurs 2007 championship is a conspiracy.

[Goran Dragic]

David Stern Fixing 1985 Draft Lottery *HIGH QUALITY*
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mN3OGRGybA

:depressed


Just becasue something is on youtube, doesn't make it true.

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[ginobili's bald spot]

It's only a conspiracy when a team other than the spurs wins. Come on guys, it's only obvious. If it wasn't for the refs and stern and CIA Pop the Spurs would go undefeated and win a championship every year. :rolleyes

[Goran Dragic]

It's only a conspiracy when a team other than the spurs wins. Come on guys, it's only obvious. If it wasn't for the refs and stern and CIA Pop the Spurs would go undefeated and win a championship every year. :rolleyes

Dude c'mon, the Spurs are just THAT good that they have been able to overcome the refs hating them all these years.

[Allanon]

It's only a conspiracy when a team other than the spurs wins. Come on guys, it's only obvious. If it wasn't for the refs and stern and CIA Pop the Spurs would go undefeated and win a championship every year. :rolleyes

If Mavfan and Sunfan want to talk conspiracy; sure.

But Spurfan and Lakerfan have seemingly benefited from this alleged fixing.

[Galileo]

Tim Donaghy also said the Spurs Suns series in 2007 was rigged in favor of the Spurs. By your logic that everything Tim Donaghy says is 100% factual, that means it is fact the Spurs 2007 championship is a conspiracy.

Donaghy never said that. You lie.

:ihit

[ginobili's bald spot]

Dude c'mon, the Spurs are just THAT good that they have been able to overcome the refs hating them all these years.

:lol You joke but I have actually seen Spurfan say that exact same thing numerous times.

[Goran Dragic]

Tim Donaghy said 2007 was on the level.

:p:


An Excerpt from Tim Donaghy's book:



My favorite Tommy Nunez story is from the 2007 playoffs when the San Antonio Spurs were able to get past the Phoenix Suns in the second round. Of course, what many fans didn't know was that Phoenix had someone working against them behind the scenes. Nunez was the group supervisor for that playoff series, and he definitely had a rooting interest.
Nunez loved the Hispanic community in San Antonio and had a lot of friends there. He had been a referee for 30 years and loved being on the road; in fact, he said that the whole reason he had become a group supervisor was to keep getting out of the house. So Nunez wanted to come back to San Antonio for the conference finals. Plus, he, like many other referees, disliked Suns owner Robert Sarver for the way he treated officials. Both of these things came into play when he prepared the referees for the games in the staff meetings. I remember laughing with him and saying, "You would love to keep coming back here." He was pointing out everything that Phoenix was able to get away with and never once told us to look for anything in regard to San Antonio. Nunez should have a championship ring on his finger.




There you go jackass. Looks like the Spurs 2007 is invalid and was just a conspiracy.

[Goran Dragic]

Donaghy never said that. You lie.

:ihit

http://deadspin.com/5392067/excerpts-from-the-book-the-nba-doesnt-want-you-to-read


Here's the link to the excerpt I posted. You can't cherry pick through the stuff Donaghy says and leave out the stuff that hurts your argument.

[badfish22]

Donaghy never said that. You lie.

:ihit

My favorite Tommy Nunez story is from the 2007 playoffs when the San Antonio Spurs were able to get past the Phoenix Suns in the second round. Of course, what many fans didn't know was that Phoenix had someone working against them behind the scenes. Nunez was the group supervisor for that playoff series, and he definitely had a rooting interest.

Nunez loved the Hispanic community in San Antonio and had a lot of friends there. He had been a referee for 30 years and loved being on the road; in fact, he said that the whole reason he had become a group supervisor was to keep getting out of the house. So Nunez wanted to come back to San Antonio for the conference finals. Plus, he, like many other referees, disliked Suns owner Robert Sarver for the way he treated officials. Both of these things came into play when he prepared the referees for the games in the staff meetings. I remember laughing with him and saying, "You would love to keep coming back here." He was pointing out everything that Phoenix was able to get away with and never once told us to look for anything in regard to San Antonio. Nunez should have a championship ring on his finger.

nope. sorry. Like I said before, if you belive in Donaghy, the Spurs benifited from the fix.

Guess who is about to stop believing in Donaghy?

[Goran Dragic]

:lol You joke but I have actually seen Spurfan say that exact same thing numerous times.


Doesn't surprise me coming from a fan base that believes their coach intentionally loses games.

[badfish22]

Dragic beat me to it.

[Goran Dragic]

My favorite Tommy Nunez story is from the 2007 playoffs when the San Antonio Spurs were able to get past the Phoenix Suns in the second round. Of course, what many fans didn't know was that Phoenix had someone working against them behind the scenes. Nunez was the group supervisor for that playoff series, and he definitely had a rooting interest.

Nunez loved the Hispanic community in San Antonio and had a lot of friends there. He had been a referee for 30 years and loved being on the road; in fact, he said that the whole reason he had become a group supervisor was to keep getting out of the house. So Nunez wanted to come back to San Antonio for the conference finals. Plus, he, like many other referees, disliked Suns owner Robert Sarver for the way he treated officials. Both of these things came into play when he prepared the referees for the games in the staff meetings. I remember laughing with him and saying, "You would love to keep coming back here." He was pointing out everything that Phoenix was able to get away with and never once told us to look for anything in regard to San Antonio. Nunez should have a championship ring on his finger.

nope. sorry. Like I said before, if you belive in Donaghy, the Spurs benifited from the fix.

Guess who is about to stop believing in Donaghy?


:lmao I can't wait for the "just because Tim Donaghy says it doesn't mean it's true".

[Goran Dragic]

David Stern Fixing 1985 Draft Lottery *HIGH QUALITY*
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mN3OGRGybA

:depressed



Just becasue something is on youtube, doesn't make it true.


:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[Galileo]

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

You are the one who said every youtube video proved a conspiracy, not me. I base my beliefs upon evidence.

:married:

[Galileo]

Game Six of the 1984 Finals was rigged in favor of the Lakers to extend the series to a 7th game. Larry Bird was not happy about this.

[Goran Dragic]

You are the one who said every youtube video proved a conspiracy, not me. I base my beliefs upon evidence.

:married:


I was sarcastically saying that making fun of the fact your 1985 draft argument was based off a youtube video. The best support you could come up with to support the claim that the 1985 draft was rigged was a youtube video. Several posts later you said just because something is on youtube, doesn't mean it's true. Good job on the self-ownage.

Just so you know, I don't think the 2007 Suns Spurs series was rigged at all. My point is that Donaghy, the guy you seem to think is always telling the truth, said it was rigged.

[Galileo]

Another way the NBA rigs the NBA is their TV schedule. As you know, only certain teams get to play on national network TV. Not surpisingly, star NBA players then want to go to those teams.

Conversly, some teams are never on TV, not even on cable, like the Milwaukee Bucks. Not surprisingly, whenever the Bucks land a good player, he immedialtey wants to leave.

[Goran Dragic]

Another way the NBA rigs the NBA is their TV schedule. As you know, only certain teams get to play on national network TV. Not surpisingly, star NBA players then want to go to those teams.

Conversly, some teams are never on TV, not even on cable, like the Milwaukee Bucks. Not surprisingly, whenever the Bucks land a good player, he immedialtey wants to leave.


:lmao

The amount of nationally televised games for each team during the 2009-2010 season:

Team home away total
Cleveland Cavaliers 13 12 25
Boston Celtics 14 11 25
Los Angeles Lakers 14 11 25
Orlando Magic 12 12 24
Denver Nuggets 12 10 22
San Antonio Spurs 8 12 20
Phoenix Suns 10 8 18
Portland Trail Blazers 10 7 17
Miami Heat 5 10 15
Utah Jazz 7 6 13
Dallas Mavericks 5 8 13
Chicago Bulls 4 9 13
New Orleans Hornets 2 7 9
Washington Wizards 4 4 8
Golden State Warriors 7 1 8
Los Angeles Clippers 3 5 8
Atlanta Hawks 4 3 7
New York Knicks 5 0 5
Detroit Pistons 0 4 4
Philidelphia 76ers 1 1 2
Toronto Raptors 0 1 1
Minnesota Timberwolves 1 0 1
Indiana Pacers 0 1 1
Oklahoma City Thunder 1 0 1
Memphis Grizzlies 1 0 1
Charlotte Bobcats 0 0 0
New Jersey Nets 0 0 0
Sacramento Kings 0 0 0
Milwaukee Bucks 0 0 0
Houston Rockets 0 0 0

So much for the NBA rigging things against the Spurs :lmao

[Galileo]

I was sarcastically saying that making fun of the fact your 1985 draft argument was based off a youtube video. The best support you could come up with to support the claim that the 1985 draft was rigged was a youtube video. Several posts later you said just because something is on youtube, doesn't mean it's true. Good job on the self-ownage.

Just so you know, I don't think the 2007 Suns Spurs series was rigged at all. My point is that Donaghy, the guy you seem to think is always telling the truth, said it was rigged.

What's your evidence that Donaghy said 2007 was rigged? Donaghy just said the Spurs deserved thier rings.

[badfish22]

Another way the NBA rigs the NBA is their TV schedule. As you know, only certain teams get to play on national network TV.

Like the Cavs eight years ago?

[badfish22]

Donaghy just said the Spurs deserved thier rings.

"Nunez should have a championship ring on his finger."

Are you mentally impaired?

[Goran Dragic]

What's your evidence that Donaghy said 2007 was rigged? Donaghy just said the Spurs deserved thier rings.


Are you being serious right now? I just posted this.

http://deadspin.com/5392067/excerpts-from-the-book-the-nba-doesnt-want-you-to-read


An excerpt from the Donaghy book (you claim to have read):



My favorite Tommy Nunez story is from the 2007 playoffs when the San Antonio Spurs were able to get past the Phoenix Suns in the second round. Of course, what many fans didn't know was that Phoenix had someone working against them behind the scenes. Nunez was the group supervisor for that playoff series, and he definitely had a rooting interest.
Nunez loved the Hispanic community in San Antonio and had a lot of friends there. He had been a referee for 30 years and loved being on the road; in fact, he said that the whole reason he had become a group supervisor was to keep getting out of the house. So Nunez wanted to come back to San Antonio for the conference finals. Plus, he, like many other referees, disliked Suns owner Robert Sarver for the way he treated officials. Both of these things came into play when he prepared the referees for the games in the staff meetings. I remember laughing with him and saying, "You would love to keep coming back here." He was pointing out everything that Phoenix was able to get away with and never once told us to look for anything in regard to San Antonio. Nunez should have a championship ring on his finger.

[Galileo]

An Excerpt from Tim Donaghy's book:




There you go jackass. Looks like the Spurs 2007 is invalid and was just a conspiracy.

Donaghy is not saying the NBA rigged this series. Donaghy is saying a rogue official had a grudge against the Suns. A lone nut. Donaghy himself worked the pivotal game 5. Another thing is that the Spurs were a better team than the Suns that year.

Not everything is a giant conspiracy, please take a look at what you are saying.

[badfish22]

Nothing involving the Spurs is a conspiracy, please take a look at what you are saying.

[ginobili's bald spot]

Donaghy is not saying the NBA rigged this series. Donaghy is saying a rogue official had a grudge against the Suns. A lone nut. Donaghy himself worked the pivotal game 5. Another thing is that the Spurs were a better team than the Suns that year.

Not everything is a giant conspiracy, please take a look at what you are saying.

It's frightening that people as stupid as you are allowed to walk the streets.

[Goran Dragic]

Donaghy is not saying the NBA rigged this series.
Then how does your dumb ass explain this quote:

Nunez should have a championship ring on his finger.



Donaghy is saying a rogue official had a grudge against the Suns.
And also had a love for San Antonio. But your right, I'm sure that, and the fact the official was the group supervisor for the series didn't affect the outcome of the series at all.



Donaghy himself worked the pivotal game 5.
Donaghy is also the only ref who has ever gone to jail for dealings with a bookie, so I don't understand how Donaghy reffing a game means it was legitimate.
PS - Donaghy reffed game 3, he didn't ref game 5. Do you have some crazy conspiracy that he dressed up to look like another ref for game 5?


And another thing is that the Spurs were a better team than the Suns that year.
Based on what? The fact the Suns had a better regular season record (oops).


Not everything is a giant conspiracy.
Only when the Spurs lose it's a conspiracy. My bad.

[Goran Dragic]

It's frightening that people as stupid as you are allowed to walk the streets.


:lmao

[Galileo]

Another rigged series was the eastern conference finals in 2001.

The NBA wanted Philly and AI to be in the finals.

The Bucks took game 6 to even the series at 3-3.

But Scott Williams, a Bucks starter, was unjustly kicked out of game 7, and the Sixers advanced to meet LA.

Pivotal game 5, which Philly won by one point, had a big foul and free throw advantage for Philly.

In game two, which the Bucks won by 14 points, Philly was only called for 11 fouls (Bucks had 21), and Philly had 30 free throw attempts to only 6 for Milwaukee.

For the entire 7-game series, the Bucks had more fouls called on them all 7 games, and had fewer free throws attempts in 6 out of 7 games.

[Galileo]

Based on what? The fact the Suns had a better regular season record (oops).



The Spurs had a better point differential than the Suns in 2007. Point differential is more predictive of playoff success than W/L record.

The Spurs had a Pythagorean W/L record of 64-18, while the Suns were only 59-23.

:ihit

[Goran Dragic]

The Spurs had a better point differential than the Suns in 2007. Point differential is more predictive of playoff success than W/L record.

The Spurs had a Pythagorean W/L record of 64-18, while the Suns were only 59-23.

:ihit


So that's what your argument is. The Spurs had a bigger point differential and were therefore better? Is your brain legitimately that incapable?

[Goran Dragic]

It's also funny that's the only part of the post you decided to respond to.

[Greg Oden]

lol galileo

[Galileo]

:lmao

The amount of nationally televised games for each team during the 2009-2010 season:

Team home away total
Cleveland Cavaliers 13 12 25
Boston Celtics 14 11 25
Los Angeles Lakers 14 11 25
Orlando Magic 12 12 24
Denver Nuggets 12 10 22
San Antonio Spurs 8 12 20
Phoenix Suns 10 8 18
Portland Trail Blazers 10 7 17
Miami Heat 5 10 15
Utah Jazz 7 6 13
Dallas Mavericks 5 8 13
Chicago Bulls 4 9 13
New Orleans Hornets 2 7 9
Washington Wizards 4 4 8
Golden State Warriors 7 1 8
Los Angeles Clippers 3 5 8
Atlanta Hawks 4 3 7
New York Knicks 5 0 5
Detroit Pistons 0 4 4
Philidelphia 76ers 1 1 2
Toronto Raptors 0 1 1
Minnesota Timberwolves 1 0 1
Indiana Pacers 0 1 1
Oklahoma City Thunder 1 0 1
Memphis Grizzlies 1 0 1
Charlotte Bobcats 0 0 0
New Jersey Nets 0 0 0
Sacramento Kings 0 0 0
Milwaukee Bucks 0 0 0
Houston Rockets 0 0 0

So much for the NBA rigging things against the Spurs :lmao

Considering how good the Spurs have been, from the George Gervin era to the David Robinson era, to the Tim Duncan era, they should be either the most televised team or second most to the Lakers. Thay had only one 5-year drought and that was over 20 years ago.

TV schedules are based on market size, player star power, and quality of teams. There is a marked bias against small market teams. I like the Spurs because they can somewhat buck the trend.

[Goran Dragic]

Considering how good the Spurs have been, from the George Gervin era to the David Robinson era, to the Tim Duncan era, they should be either the most televised team or second most to the Lakers.

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[JoeTait75]

For the entire 7-game series, the Bucks had more fouls called on them all 7 games, and had fewer free throws attempts in 6 out of 7 games.

That's because Milwaukee was a jump-shooting team. Those teams don't tend to go to the free-throw line very often.

You can't just look at free-throw totals on a piece of paper and jump to conclusions. Context matters.

[Goran Dragic]

Considering the 5 teams ahead of San Antonio on the list all have better records and several teams below San Antonio have better records, there are meds you should be taking if you think the there is a national TV conspiracy keeping the Spurs at #6 on the list since they should be higher and ranked ahead of legitimate contenders with better records.

[Galileo]

So that's what your argument is. The Spurs had a bigger point differential and were therefore better? Is your brain legitimately that incapable?

The Spurs have been better than the Suns for years. They beat 'em in 2003, 2005, 2007, and 2008.

[JJ Hickson]

lol galileo


gaLOLeo

[Galileo]

Considering the 5 teams ahead of San Antonio on the list all have better records and several teams below San Antonio have better records, there are meds you should be taking if you think the there is a national TV conspiracy keeping the Spurs at #6 on the list since they should be higher and ranked ahead of legitimate contenders with better records.

you're just upset that you are losing in the poll.

:lmao

[JJ Hickson]

you're just upset that you are losing in the poll.

:lmao


Strong argument

[8FOR!3]

JJ Hickson, Goran Dragic, and Greg Oden. What a mindfuck combo!

[Goran Dragic]

you're just upset that you are losing in the poll.

:lmao


Considering the poll is mostly comprised of butt hurt Spurs fans like yourself I'm not really upset, at all. People like you make me happy because it reminds me how blessed I am to be mentally sane.

[Goran Dragic]

The Spurs have been better than the Suns for years. They beat 'em in 2003, 2005, 2007, and 2008.


You're an idiot. Way to let the argument turn into 4 rings, faggot because you lost.

[Galileo]

Considering the poll is mostly comprised of butt hurt Spurs fans like yourself I'm not really upset, at all. People like you make me happy because it reminds me how blessed I am to be mentally sane.

How does it feel to believe everything Big Brother tells you?

:whine

[Galileo]

You're an idiot. Way to let the argument turn into 4 rings, faggot because you lost.

So what is your argument, that there is no NBA conspiracy except the Spurs/Suns series in 2007?

:bang

[Goran Dragic]

How does it feel to believe everything Big Brother tells you?

:whine


How does it feel to be too stupid to know the book 1984 is fiction?

[Galileo]

Considering the 5 teams ahead of San Antonio on the list all have better records and several teams below San Antonio have better records, there are meds you should be taking if you think the there is a national TV conspiracy keeping the Spurs at #6 on the list since they should be higher and ranked ahead of legitimate contenders with better records.

The TV schedule is made before the season starts.

:wakeup

[JJ Hickson]

How does it feel to believe everything Big Brother tells you?

:whine



The Illuminati have meetings about keeping the Spurs from winning championships. I've heard it's one of their top priorities.

[Goran Dragic]

So what is your argument, that there is no NBA conspiracy except the Spurs/Suns series in 2007?

:bang

If that were the case it'd be the same as you thinking everytime the Spurs lose the series is rigged, but I said that I don't believe that series was fixed. I brought 2007 up to refute the retarded claim that Tim Donaghy is right about everything.

[Goran Dragic]

The Illuminati have meetings about keeping the Spurs from winning championships. I've heard it's one of their top priorities.


The Free Masons HATE San Antonio.

[Galileo]

The Illuminati have meetings about keeping the Spurs from winning championships. I've heard it's one of their top priorities.

Sorry, the Spurs have won 4 rings. There is no such thing as the Illuminati.

:flag:

[Galileo]

The Free Masons HATE San Antonio.

Thay might, but they have no influence over the NBA.

:p:

[Goran Dragic]

Sorry, the Spurs have won 4 rings.


In spite of everything rigged against them! Dear god.

[Galileo]

If that were the case it'd be the same as you thinking everytime the Spurs lose the series is rigged, but I said that I don't believe that series was fixed. I brought 2007 up to refute the retarded claim that Tim Donaghy is right about everything.

Donaghy never claimed the NBA rigged the 2007 series. He said a lone nut with a grudge tried to do it. Donaghy is stating his opinion here in his book.

The statement that Nunez "should have a ring" is an opinion, not a statement of fact. For one thing, he may have deserved a ring in another season besides 2007. Secondly, even if the Suns beat the Spurs in 2007, they still had to win two more rounds to be NBA champs.

Outspoken opinions are a good way to sell books.

:lobt:

[badfish22]

In spite of everything rigged against them! Dear god.

If the NBA wasn't rigged the Spurs would have won every championship ever. Including the Eastern Conference championships. They also would have a couple super bowl rings.

[Galileo]

In spite of everything rigged against them! Dear god.

That's right. Sometimes the good guys win, and overcome the forces of evil.

:toast

[badfish22]

Donaghy never claimed the NBA rigged the 2007 series. He said a lone nut with a grudge tried to do it. Donaghy is stating his opinion here in his book.

The statement that Nunez "should have a ring" is an opinion, not a statement of fact. For one thing, he may have deserved a ring in another season besides 2007. Secondly, even if the Suns beat the Spurs in 2007, they still had to win two more rounds to be NBA champs.

Outspoken opinions are a good way to sell books.

:lobt:

You contradicted yourself like 8 times here.

[JJ Hickson]

Sorry, the Spurs have won 4 rings. There is no such thing as the Illuminati.

:flag:


How does it feel to believe everything Big Brother tells you?:lol

[Galileo]

You contradicted yourself like 8 times here.

No I haven't. You just can't understand clear thinking.

Another thing is that what Donaghy said about the 2002 Kings/Lakers series is corroborated by the evidence of the game film and the stats. There is no such evidence for the 2007 Spurs/Suns series.

[Galileo]

How does it feel to believe everything Big Brother tells you?:lol

If you believe in the Illuminati, then you are bat-shit crazy. Moonbatshitcrazy.

:lmao

[JJ Hickson]

If you believe in the Illuminati, then you are bat-shit crazy. Moonbatshitcrazy.

:lmao


If you believe the NBA is rigged, then you are bat-shit crazy. Moonbatshitcrazy.


:lmao

[Galileo]

If the NBA wasn't rigged the Spurs would have won every championship ever. Including the Eastern Conference championships. They also would have a couple super bowl rings.

That's just effin' stupid. All you do is invent some stupid conspiracy and then laugh at it.

here's let try:

HAHA! haaaaaaaaaa! Area 51? UFOs? The Loch Ness Monster? HAHA. Bigfoot? Hardy-har-har!

Therefore NBA games aren't rigged by David Stern.

:ihit

[Goran Dragic]

You contradicted yourself like 8 times here.


That's the best part :lmao

[Galileo]

If you believe the NBA is rigged, then you are bat-shit crazy. Moonbatshitcrazy.


:lmao

Tim Donaghy, an NBA insider, has direct knowledge of the NBA conspiracy. His statements are often corroborated by other evidence. You don't have shit on the Illuminati.

:hat

[Goran Dragic]

:lmao this is priceless. Everything Tim Donaghy said is true, EXCEPT for everything he says that hurts the Spurs.

[Goran Dragic]

Tim Donaghy, an NBA insider


:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[Galileo]

:lmao this is priceless. Everything Tim Donaghy said is true, EXCEPT for everything he says that hurts the Spurs.

I never said what Donaghy said about the Spurs wasn't true. Donaghy himself does not say there was an NBA conspiracy behind that series. I am saying that Donaghy gave his opinion regarding the series. I believe that Donaghy is telling us his true opinion abotu that series, and reklying the facts he does know about.

Follow the money. The Suns were a bigger TV draw in 2007 than the Spurs.

[Goran Dragic]

The Suns were a bigger TV draw in 2007 than the Spurs.

That has nothing to do with what Donaghy said. Donaghy said a fat beaner referee liked how many beaners were in San Antonio and wanted the beaner city to win. Nothing to do with TV ratings.

[Goran Dragic]

Oh great HarlemHeat viewing thread, can't wait to read his contributions to tinfoil-man's conspiracy theory.

[Chieflion]

Damn it. A classic conspiracy thread. We going CIA, FBI!

[JJ Hickson]

Tim Donaghy, an NBA insider, has direct knowledge of the NBA conspiracy. His statements are often corroborated by other evidence. You don't have shit on the Illuminati.

:hat




My favorite Tommy Nunez story is from the 2007 playoffs when the San Antonio Spurs were able to get past the Phoenix Suns in the second round. Of course, what many fans didn't know was that Phoenix had someone working against them behind the scenes. Nunez was the group supervisor for that playoff series, and he definitely had a rooting interest.
Nunez loved the Hispanic community in San Antonio and had a lot of friends there. He had been a referee for 30 years and loved being on the road; in fact, he said that the whole reason he had become a group supervisor was to keep getting out of the house. So Nunez wanted to come back to San Antonio for the conference finals. Plus, he, like many other referees, disliked Suns owner Robert Sarver for the way he treated officials. Both of these things came into play when he prepared the referees for the games in the staff meetings. I remember laughing with him and saying, "You would love to keep coming back here." He was pointing out everything that Phoenix was able to get away with and never once told us to look for anything in regard to San Antonio. Nunez should have a championship ring on his finger.

[Greg Oden]

^ the new America, eatin my lunch. Custom version for this fuckstick galileo.

[Goran Dragic]

My favorite Tommy Nunez story is from the 2007 playoffs when the San Antonio Spurs were able to get past the Phoenix Suns in the second round. Of course, what many fans didn't know was that Phoenix had someone working against them behind the scenes. Nunez was the group supervisor for that playoff series, and he definitely had a rooting interest.
Nunez loved the Hispanic community in San Antonio and had a lot of friends there. He had been a referee for 30 years and loved being on the road; in fact, he said that the whole reason he had become a group supervisor was to keep getting out of the house. So Nunez wanted to come back to San Antonio for the conference finals. Plus, he, like many other referees, disliked Suns owner Robert Sarver for the way he treated officials. Both of these things came into play when he prepared the referees for the games in the staff meetings. I remember laughing with him and saying, "You would love to keep coming back here." He was pointing out everything that Phoenix was able to get away with and never once told us to look for anything in regard to San Antonio. Nunez should have a championship ring on his finger.

[JJ Hickson]

My favorite Tommy Nunez story is from the 2007 playoffs when the San Antonio Spurs were able to get past the Phoenix Suns in the second round. Of course, what many fans didn't know was that Phoenix had someone working against them behind the scenes. Nunez was the group supervisor for that playoff series, and he definitely had a rooting interest. Nunez loved the Hispanic community in San Antonio and had a lot of friends there. He had been a referee for 30 years and loved being on the road; in fact, he said that the whole reason he had become a group supervisor was to keep getting out of the house. So Nunez wanted to come back to San Antonio for the conference finals. Plus, he, like many other referees, disliked Suns owner Robert Sarver for the way he treated officials. Both of these things came into play when he prepared the referees for the games in the staff meetings. I remember laughing with him and saying, "You would love to keep coming back here." He was pointing out everything that Phoenix was able to get away with and never once told us to look for anything in regard to San Antonio. Nunez should have a championship ring on his finger.


My favorite Tommy Nunez story is from the 2007 playoffs when the San Antonio Spurs were able to get past the Phoenix Suns in the second round. Of course, what many fans didn't know was that Phoenix had someone working against them behind the scenes. Nunez was the group supervisor for that playoff series, and he definitely had a rooting interest.
Nunez loved the Hispanic community in San Antonio and had a lot of friends there. He had been a referee for 30 years and loved being on the road; in fact, he said that the whole reason he had become a group supervisor was to keep getting out of the house. So Nunez wanted to come back to San Antonio for the conference finals. Plus, he, like many other referees, disliked Suns owner Robert Sarver for the way he treated officials. Both of these things came into play when he prepared the referees for the games in the staff meetings. I remember laughing with him and saying, "You would love to keep coming back here." He was pointing out everything that Phoenix was able to get away with and never once told us to look for anything in regard to San Antonio. Nunez should have a championship ring on his finger.

[Goran Dragic]

I like it, America Eatin my lunch part 2.

[Goran Dragic]

The problem is you can only use it on Spurs fans.

[lefty]

I think there are games influenced to extend playoff series, but not directly determing who advances.

I think the stars get preferential treatment so there is more marketability but that is for stats, not for wins.
1984 NBA Finals, game 6

Celts are up 3-2; Lakers get most of the calls

Game 7 is next; huge audience; Celtics won, and Bird called out Stern

1984 also marks the year Stern became the NBA commish

[Greg Oden]

1984 NBA Finals, game 6

Celts are up 3-2; Lakers get most of the calls

Game 7 is next; huge audience; Celtics won, and Bird called out Stern

1984 also marks the year Stern became the NBA commish


My favorite Tommy Nunez story is from the 2007 playoffs when the San Antonio Spurs were able to get past the Phoenix Suns in the second round. Of course, what many fans didn't know was that Phoenix had someone working against them behind the scenes. Nunez was the group supervisor for that playoff series, and he definitely had a rooting interest.
Nunez loved the Hispanic community in San Antonio and had a lot of friends there. He had been a referee for 30 years and loved being on the road; in fact, he said that the whole reason he had become a group supervisor was to keep getting out of the house. So Nunez wanted to come back to San Antonio for the conference finals. Plus, he, like many other referees, disliked Suns owner Robert Sarver for the way he treated officials. Both of these things came into play when he prepared the referees for the games in the staff meetings. I remember laughing with him and saying, "You would love to keep coming back here." He was pointing out everything that Phoenix was able to get away with and never once told us to look for anything in regard to San Antonio. Nunez should have a championship ring on his finger.

[Goran Dragic]

1984 NBA Finals, game 6

Celts are up 3-2; Lakers get most of the calls

Game 7 is next; huge audience; Celtics won, and Bird called out Stern

1984 also marks the year Stern became the NBA commish



My favorite Tommy Nunez story is from the 2007 playoffs when the San Antonio Spurs were able to get past the Phoenix Suns in the second round. Of course, what many fans didn't know was that Phoenix had someone working against them behind the scenes. Nunez was the group supervisor for that playoff series, and he definitely had a rooting interest.
Nunez loved the Hispanic community in San Antonio and had a lot of friends there. He had been a referee for 30 years and loved being on the road; in fact, he said that the whole reason he had become a group supervisor was to keep getting out of the house. So Nunez wanted to come back to San Antonio for the conference finals. Plus, he, like many other referees, disliked Suns owner Robert Sarver for the way he treated officials. Both of these things came into play when he prepared the referees for the games in the staff meetings. I remember laughing with him and saying, "You would love to keep coming back here." He was pointing out everything that Phoenix was able to get away with and never once told us to look for anything in regard to San Antonio. Nunez should have a championship ring on his finger.

[badfish22]

1984 NBA Finals, game 6

Celts are up 3-2; Lakers get most of the calls

Game 7 is next; huge audience; Celtics won, and Bird called out Stern

1984 also marks the year Stern became the NBA commish



My favorite Tommy Nunez story is from the 2007 playoffs when the San Antonio Spurs were able to get past the Phoenix Suns in the second round. Of course, what many fans didn't know was that Phoenix had someone working against them behind the scenes. Nunez was the group supervisor for that playoff series, and he definitely had a rooting interest.
Nunez loved the Hispanic community in San Antonio and had a lot of friends there. He had been a referee for 30 years and loved being on the road; in fact, he said that the whole reason he had become a group supervisor was to keep getting out of the house. So Nunez wanted to come back to San Antonio for the conference finals. Plus, he, like many other referees, disliked Suns owner Robert Sarver for the way he treated officials. Both of these things came into play when he prepared the referees for the games in the staff meetings. I remember laughing with him and saying, "You would love to keep coming back here." He was pointing out everything that Phoenix was able to get away with and never once told us to look for anything in regard to San Antonio. Nunez should have a championship ring on his finger.

[lefty]

GoranDragic,

Speaking of Tommy Nunez, he was the referre of the Suns-Sonics game 4 in 1997 (1st round)

His favored the Suns late in the 4th quarter of that game, which allowed the Phoenix to be down only by 3, giving Rex Chapman a chance to force OT with that amazing 3 pointer

The Sonics prevailed in OT.

And Nunez is from Phoenix, right?

[Goran Dragic]

GoranDragic,

Speaking of Tommy Nunez, he was the referre of the Suns-Sonics game 4 in 1997 (1st round)

His favored the Suns late in the 4th quarter of that game, which allowed the Phoenix to be down only by 3, giving Rex Chapman a chance to force OT with that amazing 3 pointer

The Sonics prevailed in OT.

And Nunez is from Phoenix, right?



My favorite Tommy Nunez story is from the 2007 playoffs when the San Antonio Spurs were able to get past the Phoenix Suns in the second round. Of course, what many fans didn't know was that Phoenix had someone working against them behind the scenes. Nunez was the group supervisor for that playoff series, and he definitely had a rooting interest.
Nunez loved the Hispanic community in San Antonio and had a lot of friends there. He had been a referee for 30 years and loved being on the road; in fact, he said that the whole reason he had become a group supervisor was to keep getting out of the house. So Nunez wanted to come back to San Antonio for the conference finals. Plus, he, like many other referees, disliked Suns owner Robert Sarver for the way he treated officials. Both of these things came into play when he prepared the referees for the games in the staff meetings. I remember laughing with him and saying, "You would love to keep coming back here." He was pointing out everything that Phoenix was able to get away with and never once told us to look for anything in regard to San Antonio. Nunez should have a championship ring on his finger.

[lefty]

Oh,

And also from a regular season game in 1997, between the same teams


The Phoenix Suns have tightened their hold on the No. 7 playoff spot in the West. They had better want it.
Unless the situation changes in the last 10 games, the SuperSonics will finish No. 2 and open the post-season at home against Phoenix, which owns two recent victories over them by a total of 3 points.
''Seattle's a great team, and right now we're playing pretty good basketball,'' Jason Kidd said on Sunday night after the 107-106 victory over the Sonics in Phoenix. ''We still have some things to brush up on. We're playing well, but this isn't any kind of message to any team.''
The Suns, who beat the Sonics by 109-107 last week, gambled and came out with their sixth straight victory when Rex Chapman purposely missed a free throw with 1.7 seconds to go and then tied up Seattle's Sam Perkins before he could get rid of the rebound.



Chapman, who scored all of his points in the first three quarters, got his hand on the ball over Perkins's head and knocked him backward. Referees Tommy Nunez and Dick Bavetta watched and decided it was a noncall.

[Goran Dragic]

Oh,

And also from a regular season game in 1997, between the same teams


My favorite Tommy Nunez story is from the 2007 playoffs when the San Antonio Spurs were able to get past the Phoenix Suns in the second round. Of course, what many fans didn't know was that Phoenix had someone working against them behind the scenes. Nunez was the group supervisor for that playoff series, and he definitely had a rooting interest.
Nunez loved the Hispanic community in San Antonio and had a lot of friends there. He had been a referee for 30 years and loved being on the road; in fact, he said that the whole reason he had become a group supervisor was to keep getting out of the house. So Nunez wanted to come back to San Antonio for the conference finals. Plus, he, like many other referees, disliked Suns owner Robert Sarver for the way he treated officials. Both of these things came into play when he prepared the referees for the games in the staff meetings. I remember laughing with him and saying, "You would love to keep coming back here." He was pointing out everything that Phoenix was able to get away with and never once told us to look for anything in regard to San Antonio. Nunez should have a championship ring on his finger.

[lefty]

Ok, keep coming with the same lame argument :rollin

At least, the Sonics-Suns games had visible facts


Can you prove your BS story?









No?


I'm not surprised; Spurs own the Suns like the Lakers and Mavs own the Spurs, end of story; deal with it or go work on your sexy Dream shake

[Goran Dragic]

Ok, keep coming with the same lame argument :rollin

At least, the Sonics-Suns games had visible facts


Can you prove your BS story?









No?


I'm not surprised; Spurs own the Suns like the Lakers and Mavs own the Spurs, end of story; deal with it or go work on your sexy Dream shake


My favorite Tommy Nunez story is from the 2007 playoffs when the San Antonio Spurs were able to get past the Phoenix Suns in the second round. Of course, what many fans didn't know was that Phoenix had someone working against them behind the scenes. Nunez was the group supervisor for that playoff series, and he definitely had a rooting interest.
Nunez loved the Hispanic community in San Antonio and had a lot of friends there. He had been a referee for 30 years and loved being on the road; in fact, he said that the whole reason he had become a group supervisor was to keep getting out of the house. So Nunez wanted to come back to San Antonio for the conference finals. Plus, he, like many other referees, disliked Suns owner Robert Sarver for the way he treated officials. Both of these things came into play when he prepared the referees for the games in the staff meetings. I remember laughing with him and saying, "You would love to keep coming back here." He was pointing out everything that Phoenix was able to get away with and never once told us to look for anything in regard to San Antonio. Nunez should have a championship ring on his finger.

[lefty]

So, let me recap:


Nunez tried to get back at the Phoenix Suns in 2007 because they didn't pay him after he failed at bailing the Suns out in 1997?

Ok, I agree with you :tu

[Goran Dragic]

So, let me recap:


Nunez tried to get back at the Phoenix Suns in 2007 because they didn't pay him after he failed at bailing the Suns out in 1997?

Ok, I agree with you :tu



My favorite Tommy Nunez story is from the 2007 playoffs when the San Antonio Spurs were able to get past the Phoenix Suns in the second round. Of course, what many fans didn't know was that Phoenix had someone working against them behind the scenes. Nunez was the group supervisor for that playoff series, and he definitely had a rooting interest.
Nunez loved the Hispanic community in San Antonio and had a lot of friends there. He had been a referee for 30 years and loved being on the road; in fact, he said that the whole reason he had become a group supervisor was to keep getting out of the house. So Nunez wanted to come back to San Antonio for the conference finals. Plus, he, like many other referees, disliked Suns owner Robert Sarver for the way he treated officials. Both of these things came into play when he prepared the referees for the games in the staff meetings. I remember laughing with him and saying, "You would love to keep coming back here." He was pointing out everything that Phoenix was able to get away with and never once told us to look for anything in regard to San Antonio. Nunez should have a championship ring on his finger.

[lefty]

I can ball, but I'm slow

[Goran Dragic]

I make really unfunny jokes



My favorite Tommy Nunez story is from the 2007 playoffs when the San Antonio Spurs were able to get past the Phoenix Suns in the second round. Of course, what many fans didn't know was that Phoenix had someone working against them behind the scenes. Nunez was the group supervisor for that playoff series, and he definitely had a rooting interest.
Nunez loved the Hispanic community in San Antonio and had a lot of friends there. He had been a referee for 30 years and loved being on the road; in fact, he said that the whole reason he had become a group supervisor was to keep getting out of the house. So Nunez wanted to come back to San Antonio for the conference finals. Plus, he, like many other referees, disliked Suns owner Robert Sarver for the way he treated officials. Both of these things came into play when he prepared the referees for the games in the staff meetings. I remember laughing with him and saying, "You would love to keep coming back here." He was pointing out everything that Phoenix was able to get away with and never once told us to look for anything in regard to San Antonio. Nunez should have a championship ring on his finger.

[pauls931]

Nope, it's still broken AFAIK.

[Goran Dragic]

I thought Suns fans came up with lame excuses for their team losing, but god damn they pale in comparison to the garbage excuses Spurfan comes up with.

[lefty]

I thought Suns fans came up with lame excuses for their team losing, but god damn they pale in comparison to the garbage excuses Spurfan comes up with.
:lol

Suns fans: " Amare and Diaw should have never been suspended; Fuck Stern !!! It's unfair "

Lamest excuse ever :lmao

Give me a break, the NBA only applied a written rule; nothing less, nothing more

[JJ Hickson]

Nunez should have a ring on his finger IMO.

[fevertrees]

Fixed is the wrong word but controlled heavily by the refs is YES

[Goran Dragic]

:lol

Suns fans: " Amare and Diaw should have never been suspended; Fuck Stern !!! It's unfair "

Lamest excuse ever :lmao

Give me a break, the NBA only applied a written rule; nothing less, nothing more




My favorite Tommy Nunez story is from the 2007 playoffs when the San Antonio Spurs were able to get past the Phoenix Suns in the second round. Of course, what many fans didn't know was that Phoenix had someone working against them behind the scenes. Nunez was the group supervisor for that playoff series, and he definitely had a rooting interest.
Nunez loved the Hispanic community in San Antonio and had a lot of friends there. He had been a referee for 30 years and loved being on the road; in fact, he said that the whole reason he had become a group supervisor was to keep getting out of the house. So Nunez wanted to come back to San Antonio for the conference finals. Plus, he, like many other referees, disliked Suns owner Robert Sarver for the way he treated officials. Both of these things came into play when he prepared the referees for the games in the staff meetings. I remember laughing with him and saying, "You would love to keep coming back here." He was pointing out everything that Phoenix was able to get away with and never once told us to look for anything in regard to San Antonio. Nunez should have a championship ring on his finger.

[Goran Dragic]

Fixed is the wrong word but controlled heavily by the refs is YES


Solid take. A sport where the refs can give someone the opportunity to earn 2 points and can basically change possession of the ball at any point in time is heavily controlled by the refs. That must have been a tough conclusion to reach.

[Indazone]

Because Joey Crawford does not really have it in for the Spurs and Tim Duncan. LOL

[Goran Dragic]

Spurfan please be my friend!

[Galileo]

Ha Ha, Borat Dragovic is still losing the poll!

[badfish22]

Ha Ha, Borat Dragovic is still losing the poll!

Thats because every one saw...


My favorite Tommy Nunez story is from the 2007 playoffs when the San Antonio Spurs were able to get past the Phoenix Suns in the second round. Of course, what many fans didn't know was that Phoenix had someone working against them behind the scenes. Nunez was the group supervisor for that playoff series, and he definitely had a rooting interest.
Nunez loved the Hispanic community in San Antonio and had a lot of friends there. He had been a referee for 30 years and loved being on the road; in fact, he said that the whole reason he had become a group supervisor was to keep getting out of the house. So Nunez wanted to come back to San Antonio for the conference finals. Plus, he, like many other referees, disliked Suns owner Robert Sarver for the way he treated officials. Both of these things came into play when he prepared the referees for the games in the staff meetings. I remember laughing with him and saying, "You would love to keep coming back here." He was pointing out everything that Phoenix was able to get away with and never once told us to look for anything in regard to San Antonio. Nunez should have a championship ring on his finger.

[Goran Dragic]

Ha Ha, Borat Dragovic is still losing the poll!



My favorite Tommy Nunez story is from the 2007 playoffs when the San Antonio Spurs were able to get past the Phoenix Suns in the second round. Of course, what many fans didn't know was that Phoenix had someone working against them behind the scenes. Nunez was the group supervisor for that playoff series, and he definitely had a rooting interest.
Nunez loved the Hispanic community in San Antonio and had a lot of friends there. He had been a referee for 30 years and loved being on the road; in fact, he said that the whole reason he had become a group supervisor was to keep getting out of the house. So Nunez wanted to come back to San Antonio for the conference finals. Plus, he, like many other referees, disliked Suns owner Robert Sarver for the way he treated officials. Both of these things came into play when he prepared the referees for the games in the staff meetings. I remember laughing with him and saying, "You would love to keep coming back here." He was pointing out everything that Phoenix was able to get away with and never once told us to look for anything in regard to San Antonio. Nunez should have a championship ring on his finger.

[lefty]

J-Rich missed that dunk vs the Spurs because of Nunez

[Goran Dragic]

J-Rich missed that dunk vs the Spurs because of Nunez



My favorite Tommy Nunez story is from the 2007 playoffs when the San Antonio Spurs were able to get past the Phoenix Suns in the second round. Of course, what many fans didn't know was that Phoenix had someone working against them behind the scenes. Nunez was the group supervisor for that playoff series, and he definitely had a rooting interest.
Nunez loved the Hispanic community in San Antonio and had a lot of friends there. He had been a referee for 30 years and loved being on the road; in fact, he said that the whole reason he had become a group supervisor was to keep getting out of the house. So Nunez wanted to come back to San Antonio for the conference finals. Plus, he, like many other referees, disliked Suns owner Robert Sarver for the way he treated officials. Both of these things came into play when he prepared the referees for the games in the staff meetings. I remember laughing with him and saying, "You would love to keep coming back here." He was pointing out everything that Phoenix was able to get away with and never once told us to look for anything in regard to San Antonio. Nunez should have a championship ring on his finger.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

No public poll = gay.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

lol austrailia


Were your parents siblings?


How does it feel to be too stupid to know the book 1984 is fiction?


Considering the 5 teams ahead of San Antonio on the list all have better records and several teams below San Antonio have better records, there are meds you should be taking if you think the there is a national TV conspiracy keeping the Spurs at #6 on the list since they should be higher and ranked ahead of legitimate contenders with better records.

:rollin

[IronMexican]

No public poll = gay.

Pretty much. That should be a new rule. If you make a poll, and it's private, you get banned.

[Goran Dragic]

Pretty much. That should be a new rule. If you make a poll, and it's private, you get banned.


There's a conspiracy against public polls that stopped this poll from being public. It's the same people that staged apollo 11.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

:lmao

[MiamiHeat]

There's a conspiracy against public polls that stopped this poll from being public. It's the same people that staged apollo 11.


My favorite Tommy Nunez story is from the 2007 playoffs when the San Antonio Spurs were able to get past the Phoenix Suns in the second round. Of course, what many fans didn't know was that Phoenix had someone working against them behind the scenes. Nunez was the group supervisor for that playoff series, and he definitely had a rooting interest.
Nunez loved the Hispanic community in San Antonio and had a lot of friends there. He had been a referee for 30 years and loved being on the road; in fact, he said that the whole reason he had become a group supervisor was to keep getting out of the house. So Nunez wanted to come back to San Antonio for the conference finals. Plus, he, like many other referees, disliked Suns owner Robert Sarver for the way he treated officials. Both of these things came into play when he prepared the referees for the games in the staff meetings. I remember laughing with him and saying, "You would love to keep coming back here." He was pointing out everything that Phoenix was able to get away with and never once told us to look for anything in regard to San Antonio. Nunez should have a championship ring on his finger.

[EmptyMan]

If refs want a close game, refs get a close game.

Refs have far too much control over game momentum.

[AussieFanKurt]

Fixed is the wrong word but controlled heavily by the refs is YES

yeah i reckon thats how i should have put it

[silverblk mystix]

...as I watched this years NFL post season...I realized one thing...from the first playoff game---all the way to the Super Bowl....

you never heard a lot of BS about one team got screwed or this ref hates that team or this or that officiating controversy....

you just enjoyed some great games and great competition and at the end...the best team won...period.

I love the GAME of basketball....but it sucks that there is ALWAYS...some BS during the NBA season....and ALWAYS a lot of BS during the playoffs...

this season...c'mon...will they LET THEM PLAY?....will they HELP one team or SUPERSTAR more than another? Will it be in the NBA'S INTEREST---to have one team go all the way...etc,

nauseating to say the least...

[lennyalderette]

well they could easily just put a stop to all this!! give the current refs lie detector tests, and have a separate org. to regulate the current officials why dont they??????well because its fixed morons

[redzero]

well they could easily just put a stop to all this!! give the current refs lie detector tests, and have a separate org. to regulate the current officials why dont they??????well because its fixed morons

Lie detector tests are bullshit anyway.

[Goran Dragic]

well they could easily just put a stop to all this!! give the current refs lie detector tests, and have a separate org. to regulate the current officials why dont they??????well because its fixed morons


God damn, Spurfan churns out more retarded ideas than the land-o-lakes lady churns out butter.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Sorry, I had to bump this thread. I forgot about the beautiful gem this was.

[HarlemHeat37]

Oh great HarlemHeat viewing thread, can't wait to read his contributions to tinfoil-man's conspiracy theory.

:rolleyes

[badfish22]

My favorite Tommy Nunez story is from the 2007 playoffs when the San Antonio Spurs were able to get past the Phoenix Suns in the second round. Of course, what many fans didn't know was that Phoenix had someone working against them behind the scenes. Nunez was the group supervisor for that playoff series, and he definitely had a rooting interest.
Nunez loved the Hispanic community in San Antonio and had a lot of friends there. He had been a referee for 30 years and loved being on the road; in fact, he said that the whole reason he had become a group supervisor was to keep getting out of the house. So Nunez wanted to come back to San Antonio for the conference finals. Plus, he, like many other referees, disliked Suns owner Robert Sarver for the way he treated officials. Both of these things came into play when he prepared the referees for the games in the staff meetings. I remember laughing with him and saying, "You would love to keep coming back here." He was pointing out everything that Phoenix was able to get away with and never once told us to look for anything in regard to San Antonio. Nunez should have a championship ring on his finger.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

My favorite Tommy Nunez story is from the 2007 playoffs when the San Antonio Spurs were able to get past the Phoenix Suns in the second round. Of course, what many fans didn't know was that Phoenix had someone working against them behind the scenes. Nunez was the group supervisor for that playoff series, and he definitely had a rooting interest.
Nunez loved the Hispanic community in San Antonio and had a lot of friends there. He had been a referee for 30 years and loved being on the road; in fact, he said that the whole reason he had become a group supervisor was to keep getting out of the house. So Nunez wanted to come back to San Antonio for the conference finals. Plus, he, like many other referees, disliked Suns owner Robert Sarver for the way he treated officials. Both of these things came into play when he prepared the referees for the games in the staff meetings. I remember laughing with him and saying, "You would love to keep coming back here." He was pointing out everything that Phoenix was able to get away with and never once told us to look for anything in regard to San Antonio. Nunez should have a championship ring on his finger.

[Agloco]

Not fixed, no, definitely influenced

This.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Donaghy never claimed the NBA rigged the 2007 series. He said a lone nut with a grudge tried to do it. Donaghy is stating his opinion here in his book.

The statement that Nunez "should have a ring" is an opinion, not a statement of fact. For one thing, he may have deserved a ring in another season besides 2007. Secondly, even if the Suns beat the Spurs in 2007, they still had to win two more rounds to be NBA champs.

Outspoken opinions are a good way to sell books.

:lobt:


:lmao this post sums up retarded spurfan in a nutshell

[vicphoenix13]

When Steven A Smith interviewed Donaghy this morning, he brought up the Kings/Lakers series. He said that the NBA screwed the Kings in game seven and I have to believe him on that. There were so many bad calls against Sacramento in that game and it is sad that they were robbed of an NBA Championship.

[IronMexican]

:rolleyes

butthurt

[Kyle Orton]

:lmao

[cobbler]

All I see is 58 people who should feel pretty foolish sitting in front of their TV's cheering on their teams.

[sribb43]

I like watching WWE and the NBA so they must have something in common