Draft Prospect: Paul George

[Bruno]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__EOwtYrA8xA/Sm3y1hwsDOI/AAAAAAAABFU/Lyf-dVgSxOY/s320/paul+george1.jpg
Height: 6-8
Weight: 210 lbs
Birthday: 05/02/1990
College: Fresno State

DraftExpress (http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Paul-George-5688/)
nbadraft (http://www.nbadraft.net/players/paul-george)

[AFBlue]

Smooth player with a good all-around game. He's the kind of "who?...from where?" type of player the Spurs go to on draft day.

[Chieflion]

Looks like a lot of people are starting to warm up to this guy already. Imagine the situation if Paul George is still on board at the 23rd pick (which is what I project to be the Spurs pick).

The San Antonio select.....

Spurs fans: Come on, take Paul George. The FO better don't screw this up.


*Spurs select some random player from a small school*


Spurs fans: Who the heck is Gordon Hayward? Stupid FO.

[Brazil]

Paul George ... that's my boy !

[Chieflion]

Some thoughts on Paul George when his Fresno State team played against Louisiana Tech. Fresno State won 66-59.

Paul George shot a bad percentage from the field, 4-14 and 2-7 from three point territory. He takes what the defense gives him and took the threes as a result of that, he needs to learn how to be more aggressive. His defense is good, he was able to stay in front of his man and provide some help defense, his long arms got him some steals. We will see how this translates to the NBA. George also played very unselfishly, passing the ball to his open bigs for easy lay ups and dunks, resulting in 5 assists. He was able to make all of his free throws, shooting 6 of 6. George is also a composed player, usually making good defensive rotations and good decisions on offense and doesn't rush into things.

[Blackjack]

If George really excels as a spot-up shooter and he's anything like his predecessor when it comes to BBIQ and ability defensively ... you might have to make room aboard.

I want to see him with my own eyes first, though.

[blkroadrunners]

For his sake, it would probably be best for him to stay another year at Fresno State to mature and develop for the NBA level. It's a huge jump to go from a fairly unrecognizable school to the highest stage of basketball, IMO.

[admiralsnackbar]

For his sake, it would probably be best for him to stay another year at Fresno State to mature and develop for the NBA level. It's a huge jump to go from a fairly unrecognizable school to the highest stage of basketball, IMO.

And staying in an unremarkable program will aid his development?

[blkroadrunners]

And staying in an unremarkable program will aid his development?

It will increase his draft stock for a better rookie starting salary, and a better chance for PT on a team...but at the same time though I can understand why players leave college early, mainly for the money regardless. Plus, he's already projected around the 20s, so I doubt all that will matter.

[duncan228]

An NBA scout projects Fresno State sophomore swingman Paul George to be selected somewhere in the Nos. 15-20 range if he enters his name in this year’s draft. George told Yahoo! Sports that if he continues to receive similar first-round projections, “it’s pretty much safe to say” he’ll enter the draft. George is averaging 16.6 points, 7.1 rebounds and three assists. “I haven’t fully made the decision,” George said. “I want to test the waters a little bit. From there, we will see where it ends up. It just depends on what my situation is as far as what scouts and teams think.”


- Marc J. Spears

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=mc-afterthebuzzer030510&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

[AFBlue]

An NBA scout projects Fresno State sophomore swingman Paul George to be selected somewhere in the Nos. 15-20 range if he enters his name in this year’s draft. George told Yahoo! Sports that if he continues to receive similar first-round projections, “it’s pretty much safe to say” he’ll enter the draft. George is averaging 16.6 points, 7.1 rebounds and three assists. “I haven’t fully made the decision,” George said. “I want to test the waters a little bit. From there, we will see where it ends up. It just depends on what my situation is as far as what scouts and teams think.”


- Marc J. Spears

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=mc-afterthebuzzer030510&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Thanks for the reference. Yeah, it doesn't make too much sense for George to spend another year in college playing against middling competition. If he has as good an understanding of the game as is suggested in his scouting reports, then there's not much to be gained there.

The only downside to him declaring is that his shooting percentages are down and he seems to be taking more jumpshots than ever. That sounds an awful lot like Rudy Gay (nice athleticism, but settles for Js too often). Still, the NBA likes athletes and shooters, so George should be a first round pick.

The question for Spurs fans is, would he be a fit for the Spurs?

[yavozerb]

DraftExpress
Scott Nadler

Fresno State’s Paul George has steadily been climbing NBA draft boards since he broke out onto the national scene as a freshman last season. We were high on him a year ago and he’s certainly made improvements to his game – living up to the preseason hype that surrounded him in the beginning of the year. His versatility, athleticism and scoring ability are all part of the package of this highly talented small forward, and in a draft class limited with skilled wing players; George could be one of the best options at that position come June.

Keep reading → (http://www.draftexpress.com/article/NCAA-Weekly-Performers-31010-3410/)

[AFBlue]

Reminiscent of an Al Thornton or a Wilson Chandler

ESPN also compares him to Wilson Chandler, who I believe was targeted by the Spurs the year he was drafted. He went mid-first to NY instead, but if the Spurs see some Wilson Chandler in Paul George then they may be willing, and this time able, to pull the trigger.

[Bruno]

DraftExpress
Scott Nadler

Fresno State’s Paul George has steadily been climbing NBA draft boards since he broke out onto the national scene as a freshman last season. We were high on him a year ago and he’s certainly made improvements to his game – living up to the preseason hype that surrounded him in the beginning of the year. His versatility, athleticism and scoring ability are all part of the package of this highly talented small forward, and in a draft class limited with skilled wing players; George could be one of the best options at that position come June.

Keep reading → (http://www.draftexpress.com/article/NCAA-Weekly-Performers-31010-3410/)

I've edited your post. DraftExpress doesn't want that you copy/paste whole articles.

[yavozerb]

sorry..I'll just post a link next time..

[Ditty]

Despite all the attention, he’s averaging an impressive 20.3 points per 40 pace adjusted – getting the bulk of his points in transition and in spot up situations.


lol just like jefferson and has the tools to be a great defender just like jefferson :lol

btw im still a fan on jefferson

[Chieflion]

He has tons of room to improve, especially shooting off the dribble where he is miserable. Oh, and here is Paul George's twitter.

http://twitter.com/King24george

His comment on his entry to the draft: I'm not declaring and signing an agent I'm jus goin to the workouts and then goin from there sheesh!

[Mr. Body]

After we trade Parker for Chris Paul we will have:

Chris Paul Paul George George Hill

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

:lol

[exstatic]

Dude's going to be awesome. How can he not be when he's already half of The Beatles?

[jesterbobman]

In the small forward, probably available around 20, he's an interesting option. His free throw shooting would be great for icing games, and his willingness to shoot/take the game as it comes.

Should definitely be coming for a workout, Or the Spurs at one of the massive multi team workouts(where they saw Blair) and have a look and interview him, then probably work out.

[AFBlue]

He's in per ESPN insider. Likely around when the Spurs draft.

[Ditty]

im starting to like this kid and only 19 which is great hes predicted to be a danny granger/trevor ariza player he number 1 to take on my board then pondextor

[spursballer21]

take this guy ,take this guy, if we want a sf this is the guy we want check out his youtube videos this guy can ball,shoot,drive,defend,tall idk what else u want and hes young and his ceiling is trevor ariza danny granger

[Ditty]

take this guy ,take this guy, if we want a sf this is the guy we want check out his youtube videos this guy can ball,shoot,drive,defend,tall idk what else u want and hes young and his ceiling is trevor ariza danny granger

yah he has that kevin durant shooting style and has those long arms which could make a great defender they say and probably one of the most athletic guys in the draft

the only thing that pondextor is more of a complete player at this time than geroge (george is only 19 and quincy is 22) but has alot of pontential..pondextor is a a better dribble and pull up shooter but not a great spot up shooter and george is great spot up shooter but not a great dribble and pull up shooter

so its going to be tough who the spurs could choose but i would still take george

[exstatic]

take this guy ,take this guy, if we want a sf this is the guy we want check out his youtube videos this guy can ball,shoot,drive,defend,tall idk what else u want and hes young and his ceiling is trevor ariza danny granger

I like him, but fortunately, the Spurs FO due-diligence consists of WAY more than checking out YouTube videos.

[Darkwaters]

Of the prospects I've looked at I'm pretty high on George. Right now I'd say hes my number one pick with Pondexter at number two.

[AFBlue]

The more I see of this guy, the more I like him.

Are you watching highlights or tapes? What inspired the post?

[TDMVPDPOY]

This paul fella, does he have what it takes to be a good volume shooter like durant, tmac etc? could he be built up as a franchise player in the making? or a scrub who fills the rosters need?

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

This paul fella, does he have what it takes to be a good volume shooter like durant, tmac etc? could he be built up as a franchise player in the making? or a scrub who fills the rosters need?

Oh yeah, he's a sure-fire franchise player, because that's generally what you can draft from the 20 spot... :rolleyes

In other news, pigs just flew by my window, and tonight I'm having a threesome with Morena Baccarin and Maria Sharapova! :wakeup

[Chieflion]

Oh yeah, he's a sure-fire franchise player, because that's generally what you can draft from the 20 spot... :rolleyes

In other news, pigs just flew by my window, and tonight I'm having a threesome with Morena Baccarin and Maria Sharapova! :wakeup

Dude, your country is where AIRPORK is produced, isn't it?

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Dude, your country is where AIRPORK is produced, isn't it?

I had no idea what you were referring to so I googled it and got this:

http://www.wilfridwong.com/2007/05/16/battle-of-australias-airpork-and-the-local-supply/

You learn something every day! :lol

BTW, I wasn't dissing George, just suggesting that it's a bit stupid to question whether he's a potential franchise player at this point.

[Chieflion]

I had no idea what you were referring to so I googled it and got this:

http://www.wilfridwong.com/2007/05/16/battle-of-australias-airpork-and-the-local-supply/

You learn something every day! :lol

BTW, I wasn't dissing George, just suggesting that it's a bit stupid to question whether he's a potential franchise player at this point.

No one is saying he is. I think George has a role player mentality and will hustle and make energy plays in the league. He obviously is just a spot-up shooter and occasional slasher at this point. His ceiling is most probably Danny Granger, but I don't expect him to reach that. He can't be a franchise player. This draft is deep, but it is hilarious to suggest that George can be a franchise player at this point, along with the rest of the late lottery and mid-1st rounders.

That article was funny though. People arguing over pork.

[Bruno]

When I look at what kind of SF will complement well a Spurs roster of Parker, Hill, Ginobili, Duncan, Splitter and Blair, George looked like a damn good fit.

On the paper the ideal SF would be a good defender and a good 3 point shooter. I don't know George but he seems to be able to fit both criteria.

[mountainballer]

reassuring news regarding George. he has hired an agent, so he will be in the draft. after the withdraw of Vesely this are good news. now let's hope that Hayward also stays in the draft.

[kobyz]

i really want him, i think he is what we need the most and the perfect fit and could be an alternative to Batum who we very wanted back then.

[Darkwaters]

I think I'd be fine with either George or Pondexter. George is probably the better long-term solution but I can't get over the idea that Pondexter is probably a much larger help early on. Still, I think them both.

[mountainballer]

I think I'd be fine with either George or Pondexter. George is probably the better long-term solution but I can't get over the idea that Pondexter is probably a much larger help early on. Still, I think them both.

exactly my thoughts as well. personally I prefer Pondexter (also because of pure sympathy, I just like him), but if the Spurs go with George, I won't complain. (agree that he might have the higher ceiling)

[Darkwaters]

Honestly, I think I'd draft Pondexter as well but wouldn't cry over George. Just my personal preference though. I think Pondexter will be ready to contribute more early on than George. And while Pondexter won't have the 3 point shooting prowess of George I don't know that George will realize his potential in the quickly closing Duncan era. The team will look very different then and we won't necesarily place as much emphasis on shooting as we once did anyways.

[AFBlue]

I've watched some games, talked to people. I haven't seen full games, but he is a good player. I think that he is better than DeMar DeRozen.

Cool. Interesting that you brought up DeRozen...outside of the comparable athleticism, do you think they have similar games?

[AFBlue]

I haven't seen enough of either to compare them. I would guess that Paul George is not as polished for NBA as someone who played with better competition such as Devin Ebanks. But then again, George Hill is from the summit league and Mario Chalmers is from the Big 12; see how that turned out... I would guess that either is a question mark in terms of NBA readiness. Still from what I have heard, Paul George has a better attitude than Ebanks and that fits better with the Spurs.

I've already put in my good word for Paul George with my sources. Of course they won't listen to me, but maybe if he wasn't on their radar he is now.

George seems to be more NBA-ready with one aspect over most of the SF prospects...his three-point shot. His percentage was down this year from last, but his number of attempts seem to suggest it's a regular part of his game, versus the "projection" of that aspect for most other prospects.

If the Spurs are going to ask him initially to stand in a corner and fire up threes, he seems to be able to handle that right away. The rest of it (dribble drive, defense, etc.) will come.

[Biggems]

ok....so we draft Paul George in the first and Dexter Pittman in the 2nd.

We then re-sign Ian, sign Splitter, Trade Bonner for a future 2nd.

In 2011 we draft Jordan Hamilton

Our future beyond the big 3.......Splitter, Ian, Blair, Pittman, George, Hill, Hamilton, Temple, Gee, Hairston, and de Colo.

[DesignatedT]

I would rather go with James Anderson or Xavier Henry over George. Just my opinion but I think those 2 guys are better players.

[Ditty]

I would rather go with James Anderson or Xavier Henry over George. Just my opinion but I think those 2 guys are better players.

i like xavier henry but spurs are really thin at the sf unless spurs could possibly land a decent sf in the second round or free agency like matt barnes

George is better than Anderson IMO

George has alot of pontential and could be a special player hes my pick then pondextor

[DesignatedT]

i like xavier henry but spurs are really thin at the sf unless spurs could possibly land a decent sf in the second round or free agency like matt barnes

George is better than Anderson IMO

George has alot of pontential and could be a special player hes my pick then pondextor

I just feel like perimeter shooting needs to be looked at and addressed badly. Neither George or Pondexter shoot the ball well compared to Henry and Anderson.

[Ditty]

george is a hell of a 3 point shooter pondextor is poor but can do everything else good the only think i dont like about george is maybe his defense but hes long and athletic but henry is there i would defintley pick him but feel like our weakness is SF right now

[FeZZy]

90 percent from free throw line if I'm not mistaken...just what we need!

[Bruno]

http://www.ridiculousupside.com/2010/5/13/1470217/spurs-working-out-xavier-henry-and


George believes he may be more of a 2-guard than a 3. Some NBA teams agree. In fact his first workout is in San Antonio on Thursday. His workout partner: Kansas shooting guard Xavier Henry.

[Bruno]

From what I've read, George seems to have some similarities with Batum.

[Chieflion]

Cool. He is working out with Xavier Henry for the Spurs. Both guys are excellent 3 point shooters and have the ability to play both swing positions. I am getting so excited for the draft come June.

[DBMethos]

I really hope the Spurs don't trade away this pick...

[TimmehC]

From what I've read, George seems to have some similarities with Batum.

:wow
Don't get our hopes up, only to be dashed when Pritchard trades to get in front of us and nab him.

[benefactor]

I'd be very happy with either.

[EricB]

Xavier Henry will be considered. Don't freak out if he isn't drafted however... Buford has the inside line on these guys...

[SenorSpur]

From what I've read, George seems to have some similarities with Batum.

Ah Batum...what could've been. :bang

[DesignatedT]

Ah Batum...what could've been. :bang

then we could have said goodbye to george hill.

Either one is good but im glad we have hill.

[angelbelow]

Keep up the great work guys, I never watch college and therefore I am not familiar with college players but reading these kinds of threads really help.

[scottspurs]

If the spurs can find a 40% or better 3 pt shooter in this draft it would be ideal. Since I think the best shooter in the draft (Xavier Henry) will be gone by 20 Paul George could be the guy.

[mystargtr34]

I better edit that.

[ChuckD]

If the spurs can find a 40% or better 3 pt shooter in this draft it would be ideal. Since I think the best shooter in the draft (Xavier Henry) will be gone by 20 Paul George could be the guy.

PG shot 45% outside the arc the season before this one. :)

I think he's going to grade out really high in Hollinger's draft ratings. You may ask what that means. Two players that have good positive flags in the last two drafts were George Hill and DeJuan Blair. I'm not sure what his exact formula is, but I know that three point shooing is a value add, rebounding really well for your position is another, and a high combination of blocks/steals is another. He's been doing it since 2001, and has picked out gems like:

• Carlos Boozer was the 26th collegian taken in 2002; Draft Rater had him second.
• Josh Howard was 17th in 2003; Draft Rater had him fifth.
• Danny Granger was the 13th collegian in 2005; Draft Rater had him third.
• Rajon Rondo was the 16th collegian taken in 2006, but Draft Rater had him second.
• Rodney Stuckey was the 14th collegian chosen in 2007; Draft Rater had him fifth.
• And last year, two players the Draft Rater had rated much higher than others did, Mario Chalmers and George Hill, had productive rookie seasons.

[AFBlue]

George looks like a really good fit for the Spurs. He's young (nice upside) and athletic, two things Pop hinted the Spurs would be targeting for the roster again this offseason. He can shoot and he has the tools to defend multiple positions.

I wouldn't be surprised if he was first on the Spurs' draft board (in their range) on draft night.

[angelbelow]

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fun little highlight reel.

[BronxCowboy]

ERcmFdlrrXY

fun little highlight reel.

Reminds me of Sjax a little in that video, maybe a little less range.

[Blackjack]

ERcmFdlrrXY

fun little highlight reel.

Funky release on his jumper. Reminds me of Durant a bit.

Funny watching these highlight reels because you're left thinking how the hell someone like this wouldn't go before 20 (and maybe he will). But you can't really make an accurate assessment with theses things. I like the athleticism, listed size, shooting percentages and the fact that it seems he has a left hand to finish at the basket, but highlight blocks don't tell me anything about his defense.

I'm definitely intrigued, though, enough to if the Spurs picked him ... I'd be downright excited (because I'd know that the questions I have, the Spurs would've felt good about those answers).

[HarlemHeat37]

According to local reports, Raptors have shown some interest in him..he's good friends with DeRozan too..I really doubt he makes it to 20..

[Blackjack]

The there's going to be a lot of butthurt fans on this board. :lol

[angelbelow]

Funky release on his jumper. Reminds me of Durant a bit.

Funny watching these highlight reels because you're left thinking how the hell someone like this wouldn't go before 20 (and maybe he will). But you can't really make an accurate assessment with theses things. I like the athleticism, listed size, shooting percentages and the fact that it seems he has a left hand to finish at the basket, but highlight blocks don't tell me anything about his defense.

I'm definitely intrigued, though, enough to if the Spurs picked him ... I'd be downright excited (because I'd know that the questions I have, the Spurs would've felt good about those answers).

Agree on everything. I definitely got the funky/durant/kevin martin feel on his release.

Additionally, watching this video I was really thinking that hes an awesome prospect that will fall to us at 20? But I think in the video he has some glaring problems - as he doesnt seem to be able to create his own shot and IMO his finishes in traffic around the basket are a little awkward. Definitely tells us nothing about his defense.

[Blackjack]

Yeah, you just can't tell what exactly his limitations or liabilities are from something like this. It's somewhat of a red flag to not see him breaking down anyone off the dribble or showing any real creativity off the dribble and in and around traffic, but it's a YouTube. It's highlights; it doesn't mean he's incapable creating but it doesn't mean he isn't -- it doesn't tell us the type of kid or work-ethic he has either.

But as it pertains to creating his own, that wouldn't bother me as much on this team. If he excels as a spot up shooter and can use his athleticism to finish at the rim in the open floor or off of others creativity in the halfcourt, that deficiency wouldn't show as much in the Spurs' offense. If you can catch and shoot, make the extra pass and hold your own at the other end, you'll be find playing off the Big 3 and in this system.

The release reminds me of Durant because it comes almost from the forehead and extends out instead of up and over. It's a bit of a push but it's consistent and pretty effortless. Martin's actual release isn't all that funky, it's the windup to get to that point; and I have no clue how the guy came up with it. He must have been extremely weak growing up and that windup was something of necessity to reach the basket. That's all I can think of.

[Ditty]

if we draft him at least we will have a spur in the dunk contest next year

[SenorSpur]

Ideally, I just hope that by the time their pick comes around, the Spurs have their pick of SFs (George, Robinson, Pondexter).

[HarlemHeat37]

Ya, I would draft a big if I was them too, my point is that I believe a lot of teams will show interest in George and he will be gone before 20..I like him though, so hopefully not..

[SenorSpur]

This IS the guy that I hope the Spurs can get. After losing out on Batum 2 years ago, Paul George would help fill the gaping void at SF. Plus he'd be wonderful insurance for when RJ moves on. Obviously there is nothing to prevent some team from reaching down and taking him early, but I do like the Spurs chances.

[Darkwaters]

I can see an athletic 6'8" forward that can shoot making a team fall in love with him. Pretty easy to like those kinds of players. I believe someone made a comparison to James White. That’s not a good comparison. Flight was a scorer, but he needed the ball in his hands to be effective for the most part. If there is any player the Spurs have let go and I still stayed in decent tough with, keeping an eye and talking to on the few occasions I see him, it is James. James was athletic as hell, but couldn't shoot. He had a commitment to defense, but his frail body kept him from playing physically like the Spurs wanted him to (which is why the Spurs let James go and signed Udoka). So here is the correct comparison:

James White, super athletic. Paul George, very athletic.
James White couldn't shoot. Paul George, good shooter.
James White commitment on defense. Paul George is alright, but has room to improve.


And to be honest, the Spurs are not drafting as late as they normally do. We're so used to players we like being drafted in the 20s before we have a chance at them. Over the past 3 year (going off the top of my head) the Spurs' earlest picks were 37, 26, 54. The Spurs finally have a solid pick and there are easily 19 prospects who can be drafted ahead of Paul George. 10 for sure.

James White!

[mountainballer]

"I think I fit in perfectly (with the Bulls)," George said. "They have a nice nucleus here, a young team, a promising point guard. Joakim Noah's probably one of the most improved. I think they can use another wing who can stretch the floor."
http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/05/bulls-host-workouts-at-berto-center.html


interesting. a promise from the Bulls at #17?

[benefactor]

Wouldn't be surprising at all. The Bulls will be looking for shooting after losing Salmons last season.

[Ditty]

I had a dream we drafted this guy last night ha

[SenorSpur]

interesting. a promise from the Bulls at #17?

Perhaps, but I would imagine that would change if the Bulls are targeting LeBrick.

[Russ]

This looks like the Spurs' guy for a bunch of reasons (not the least of which, he's from the high desert and Fresno -- like Bowen.)

The only question is, do you let a guy like this go somewhere else then grab him on the rebound (like Bowen). Or can he hold his own right away.

[Brazil]

he will be gone before 20

[SenorSpur]

I'll just cross my fingers, hold my breath and hope this kid is available @ #20.

[SpursTillTheEnd]

^^^ it is worse look at what happened with blair, but yea if hes gone by 20 we will get hayward

[SenorSpur]

^^^ it is worse look at what happened with blair, but yea if hes gone by 20 we will get hayward

The Spurs issue is lack of shooting and athleticism. Hayward addresses one, but not the other. The Spurs need more speed, quickness and athleticism on the perimeter. Hayward is simply too slow. I'd rather the Spurs pass on him.

Besides, Hayward is supposedly so well coveted by the Pacers, I'd be very surprised if he were to fall that far.

[SenorSpur]

The Indiana Whities will probably draft Hayward to back up Granger and Hansbrough.

:lol

You also forgot about Dunleavy.

I'm sure Utah would love to take a crack at him too. :lol

[mountainballer]

Perhaps, but I would imagine that would change if the Bulls are targeting LeBrick.

why? Bulls have only 6 players under contract, they have room at every position. and you want shooters and roadrunners around Lebron. George's top qualities are shooting and running.

[Bruno]

George makes sense for Bulls only he can play SG. If he can't, I don't see them drafting him while they still have Deng and James Johnson at that spot. They should go with either Xavier Henry or James Anderson.

[mountainballer]

Bulls will want (and need) shooters in the first place. Deng and Johnson can't shoot the 3 ball. (but you can play Deng at SG, if alongside a quick SF to cover the SG). and Bulls will rethink Johnson anyhow.
there is also a good chance they end up in a S&T scenario for whoever FA they can get. either Deng (salary) or Johnson could very well become part of such a package. sure Henry makes more sense. (not only b/c of position, he is the much better player anyhow). doubt that he will be there at #17.

[AFBlue]

Seems to be gone by the time the Spurs pick in the three main mocks I track regularly (ESPN, DX, NBADraft.net). Obviously it's early in the draft evaluation process and plenty of misinformation is flying around all the way up to the draft...but he looks just out of reach at this point.

[MaNu4Tres]

Seems to be gone by the time the Spurs pick in the three main mocks I track regularly (ESPN, DX, NBADraft.net). Obviously it's early in the draft evaluation process and plenty of misinformation is flying around all the way up to the draft...but he looks just out of reach at this point.


http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=124991

[Russ]

His stock is going up at the NBA Combine. The anlalysts on ESPNU speculate that he could go as high as 5.:wow

Some (older) mocks have him going as low as early second round. Doubtful.

I think the Spurs would take him if they could.

[SenorSpur]

George makes sense for Bulls only he can play SG. If he can't, I don't see them drafting him while they still have Deng and James Johnson at that spot. They should go with either Xavier Henry or James Anderson.

George absolutely makes sense for the Bulls. However, what doesn't make sense is why they allowed one of their best, and most clutch shooters, Ben Gordon, to simply walk away in free agency last summer? Then they wondered WHY they had no perimeter scoring. It's absolutely amazing.

[AFBlue]

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=124991

Yes, I realize that just last year a seemingly impossible thing happened. That's why my original comment came with A LOT of hedging.

[Blackjack]

Twitter (http://twitter.com/varner48MoH/status/14374835887)




Paul George: "I'm a beast ready to be unleashed."

[Blackjack]

Twitter: (http://twitter.com/varner48MoH/status/14377006877)

Henry and George worked out against one another in Chicago, not San Antonio. George worked out for the Spurs on the 13th.

[SenorSpur]

Twitter (http://twitter.com/varner48MoH/status/14374835887)

Hey. That's copyright infringement. There is one, and only one Beast. And we all know who that is. :lol

[5in10]

Top 4 guys being mentioned by NBA teams as looking good in the Combine today: ‎​Eric Bledsoe, Paul George, Gordon Hayward, Solomon Alabi.

[Blackjack]

Hey. That's copyright infringement. There is one, and only one Beast. And we all know who that is. :lol

Get him on the team, that should learn em good; if he thinks arms are useful, and all . . .

[200 miles]

...and the general consensus believes him to be the next Trevor Ariza?

[DBMethos]

Sounds like this kid's playing himself out of our range...

[ace3g]

chadfordinsider

Paul George, Eric Bledsoe, Ryan Richards were good today at Draft Combine. Look for a full report later.

[mountainballer]

^^
problem is, half of the projected 1st rounders have pulled out of the combine.
so it's becoeming more and more worthless.

btw. Hornets have canceld all interviews with players who have pulled out. great reaction. problem is, most other teams won't have the balls to follow. in the end Hornets will have hurt themself.
down the road the agents are just killing the predraft camp. a shame. first the 5 on 5, now the combine. next they will refuse to measure their clients, because the result might hurt their stock. "I tell you, my client is a 6'5'' PG with a 7'1'' wingspan. he has a 45' vertical and runs the 3/4 court under 3 seconds. trust me."

[mogrovejo]

The 5x5 camp was killed by the teams due to the cost/benefit. The combine was a terrible idea. Who wants to see the kids going through lame ass drills? Or lifting weights? Half-court sprints? Running around cones? That kind of stuff has very little correlation with draft position or success in the pros. Teams don't really care about that. What are they going to learn from those things?

The pre-draft camp/combine is and should be a PR event. Free press for the NBA and future rookies, engage the fans of teams out of the playoffs, create some post lottery buzz, fill the days between playoff games. Measurements are important because fans love them and generate lots of press. Interviews allow teams to have a first impression. It may save some future work.

The basketball part is only there to justify the existence of the camp, to be more than an interview&measurements camp. I'm pretty sure New Orleans will schedule their own workouts and interviews with those players they're interested in. I think they should find something more interesting. A 3x3 tournament broacasted by the NBA TV. Horse games. Something competitive they could get people to see.

That said, I really like George's potential. I'm hoping the Celtics draft him.

[Blackjack]

Paul George Leaves Cartoons Behind
by Timothy Varner

Paul George projects his draft position somewhere between the late lottery and pick 29. His strong play during today’s Combine activities only added to the increasingly noisy buzz associated with the Fresno State star.

George doesn’t care where he is drafted, so long as he plays on the wing.

Paul George envisions himself as an NBA shooting guard, although he’s fine switching between the 2, 3, and 4, depending on the floor match-ups. But mark this: he doesn’t want to play center.

George is a self-made wing. And it’s a fun story.

Keep reading → (http://www.48minutesofhell.com/2010/05/20/paul-george-leaves-cartoons-behind/#more-8433)

[Blackjack]

So Black, you are the 48MoH guy?

No, my man. :lol

I guess I've become ST's guy for 48MoH but I'm not the guy or one of their guys; just helping the cause.

[Blackjack]

The more I see and learn about this guy, the more I have a hard time believing there are 15 better picks than him, much less 19.

[Blackjack]

tav1 has already been outed more times that I can count, so I guess it's not a big deal to tell you that's Tim (the guy who wrote the piece on George).

[SenorSpur]

Obviously, he's done well at the combine so far and he's no longer a secret. Don't see how this guy will be available @ #20.

[Blackjack]

Obviously, he's done well at the combine so far and he's no longer a secret. Don't see how this guy will be available @ #20.

Apparently the rave reviews are coming from the workouts he had with the Spurs against Henry and another one with OKC or Houston. I can't remember which team or who he was matched up against at the moment, though.

[mountainballer]

Apparently the rave reviews are coming from the workouts he had with the Spurs against Henry and another one with OKC or Houston. I can't remember which team or who he was matched up against at the moment, though.

I guess it was the workout in Chicago. (not the camp, talking about the workout for the Bulls, with Henry, D.Jones and Anderson)

[Blackjack]

I was pretty sure it was one of either Houston or Oklahoma but you might be right. I do think I remember it being Anderson or James.

[mountainballer]

http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/05/bulls-host-workouts-at-berto-center.html

posted this link last week. I thought like, why are they doing a big story about just one of all the guys that worked out, if he either wasn't the most impressive of the bunch, or there are some rumors telling about a preference of the Bulls FO. (well, might be both reasons of course)

[Blackjack]

Twitter: (http://twitter.com/varner48MoH/status/14377006877)

Henry and George worked out against one another in Chicago, not San Antonio. George worked out for the Spurs on the 13th.

So I guess it was Anderson or James with George in SA.



Edit: Maybe it was Jones. I was thinking they'd have a more similar player -- I'm a fan of Jones, by the way.

[mountainballer]

Edit: Maybe it was Jones. I was thinking they'd have a more similar player -- I'm a fan of Jones, by the way.

so am I. I was asking in the Jones thread, if he couldn't as well be a target for the #20 pick, despite not bringing in something we don't have. but in a scenario beyond Tony, a backcourt of Hill and Jones could be something the Spurs see as an option worth considering.

[Blackjack]

It's fitting he was a bull in college because that's the word that came to mind watching him play there: bull.

He's got a little bit of a Stuckey feel and I definitely think he's got a future in the league if he's given the right opportunity. He's got some things to work on but I like the strength and purpose he plays with -- damn good when it comes to creating and exploiting contact.

And it must have been him in SA:


Which teams have you worked out for?

DJ: Yeah, I’ve worked out for Boston, San Antonio, Washington, Indiana and Chicago.

[mountainballer]

For the record, the Bulls number one priority this off-season is to improve their big man rotation. They traded away both Aaron Gray and Tyrus Thomas, limiting their options if say Noah got in foul trouble. The Bulls might really like Paul George, but they have to go off need.

the Bulls needs are more or less irrelevant, before they don't know what they can pull in the free agency.
between Wade, Lebron, Bosh, Johnson, Amare and Boozer there are so many different scenarios what their needs will be after the free agency. they can just draft the player they like most.

[Mark in Austin]

Rave review from his Spurs workout? Kevin Pritchard is now furiously working the phones to get a pick higher than 19...

[mountainballer]

Not the way NBA front offices think. If a solid big man is avilable then the Bulls will draft based off need. There is no promise that Amar'e Boozer or Bosh sign with the Bulls. Especially since two of those three are likely to be with their teams. And on top of that if Wade or LeBron do sign with the Bulls that will make their big man rotation likely similar to last season.

sorry, but from what most experts tell, nearly ALL front offices use a tire system for the draft.
if two or more players from the same tire are available, team drafts the one that covers more of a need.
otherwise they pick the one player left highestin their tire rankings, regardless needs.

[Russ]

sorry, but from what most experts tell, nearly ALL front offices use a tire system for the draft.
if two or more players from the same tire are available, team drafts the one that covers more of a need.
otherwise they pick the one player left highestin their tire rankings, regardless needs.

That's why so many teams draft a fifth wheel.

[tav1]

i guess it was the workout in chicago. (not the camp, talking about the workout for the bulls, with henry, d.jones and anderson)

+1

[Mark in Austin]

No need for the Blazers to draft a 2/3 this year. They already have Claver along with Webster and Batum.

Never underestimate Pritchard's innate need to prove he's smarter than San Antonio, the team that didn't think highly enough of him to make him more than a scout / intern / janitor / whatever he was here.

[Ocotillo]

What happened to the rumors of Pritch getting the ax?

[ace3g]

Paul George looked very impressive knocking down 4 outside shots in a row. Finally getting some of the hype that he has deserved all along.

http://www.nbadraft.net/nba-draft-combine-day-1

[ace3g]

I think I just heard on ESPN during day 2 of the NBA combine that Paul George hurt his lower back, I'll try to find more news on this

[ace3g]

Fresno State's George sees opportunities with Bulls



Fresno State forward Paul George is more than ready to join the Bulls, but he has mixed emotions about the possibility of being joined by free agent LeBron James.

"He'll probably take almost all my minutes," George said with a laugh. "But we'd be winning, so I'd be cool with that."

George, a 6-foot-8 swingman, was one of the best talkers at the NBA's predraft camp media session on Thursday. He also has a decent chance of being chosen by the Bulls on June 24 if he's still on the board at No. 17.

"That would be a perfect pick," George said of the Bulls. "A young team, promising point guard, probably one of the most improved big men in the game. I think the sky would be the limit if I could come into this team and work hard. It would be something special."

While potential draft picks held workouts at Attack Athletics on the West Side, the prospects met the media at a downtown hotel. The swarm of Kentucky players (John Wall, DeMarcus Cousins, Patrick Patterson, etc.) drew large crowds of reporters to their tables, but none seems likely to end up playing in Chicago.

Whether James signs or not, the Bulls could use an outside shooter. Another good interview was 6-7 Kansas freshman Xavier Henry, who shot better than 40 percent from 3-point range last season.

"They say I settled too much for the outside shots too much when I was playing at Kansas," Henry said. "When you throw it down to (center) Cole (Aldrich), he gets double-teamed every time. You're wide open."

Both George and Henry claimed they model their games after Atlanta guard Joe Johnson, a potential Bulls free-agent addition if James doesn't sign on.

"He's athletic, he plays defense, offense and doesn't do all the talking," Henry said of Johnson. "He goes about his business. That's kind of how I am. I don't do a lot of jawing back and forth."

Added George: "I think I could be one of those bigger guards and eventually be a superstar. I think I can be a shooting guard. I feel comfortable with the ball in my hands. Whatever team drafts me, I'm going to continue working with them. I think I'm a beast, just waiting to be unleashed."

If a shooting guard doesn't work out, the Bulls might consider adding another big man such as VCU's Larry Sanders, Georgia Tech's Gani Lawal, or Florida State's Solomon Alabi.

The soft-spoken Alabi grew up in Nigeria and didn't get serious about basketball until attending high school in Florida as a teenager.

"It's a little bit rough," Alabi said of Nigeria. "I came from a small town. No one knows about basketball, there are only a few people that play basketball in the town. When I started playing, I had to play in my sandals."


http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=382363

[Blackjack]

Yeah, I heard he pulled his back and had to take himself out of today's drills.

[Mel_13]

The more I see and learn about this guy, the more I have a hard time believing there are 15 better picks than him, much less 19.

:depressed

[mountainballer]

Added George: "I think I could be one of those bigger guards and eventually be a superstar...."

wow. seems as if all of our draft targets can deliver some cocky announcements.

[5in10]

That's why so many teams draft a fifth wheel.
:lol

[ace3g]

Versatile George A Lottery Pick

By: Luke Byrnes


Coming out of high school, Paul George was about as far off the radar of NBA scouts and general managers as you and I. After one season at Fresno State, however, the 6-7 swingman put himself on the map and has been climbing draft boards ever since.

While George isn't the "can't-miss" prospect experts have labeled the likes of Evan Turner and John Wall, his length and skill set have made the sophomore forward into a potential lottery pick in the 2010 NBA Draft and a virtual first-round lock.

Not too shabby for a lightly recruited, skinny kid from a mid-major school.

"I have been under the radar in every scenario," George said. "I came from Palmdale (Calif.). Nobody really knows about that. I played at Pete Knight High School. Nobody really knows about that. And I went to Fresno State. Nobody really knows about that. I think my whole life has been under the radar and I knew if I ever got that chance to be on the front stage I knew, with God's blessing, I knew I could showcase my talent."

And showcase his talents he has.

In two seasons at Fresno State George displayed a tremendous all-around game, averaging 15.5 points, 6.7 rebounds, 2.4 assists and nearly two steals per game while shooting .396 from behind the three-point line. As dynamic and explosive as George is on offense, he has proven to be equally productive on defense and, in the Fall of 2009, Sports Illustrated dubbed him the West's Most Entertaining Player.

But it hasn't always come so easily for George. He has had to work diligently to get to this point, even making a sacrifice most would deem to large, even if the payoff was, as in the case of Paul George, the opportunity to play in the NBA. He gave up (gasp!)… Cartoons.

"When I was a little kid, I mean, I was taller than everyone so I was kind of forced to play basketball," George explained. "You know, I love the game, but it wasn't something that I was really into at the time. When they first put me at the center position, I knew that's not something I wanted to play. I mean, I would skip cartoons to go into the garage and dribble the basketball just so I could play on the wing. That is when I knew that I love this game; skipping cartoons was big at a young age. I knew that it was something that I wanted and I stuck to it. Basketball is the only sport I ever played."

Like it is for most kids, it was easier to relate to the "small" players George saw in the NBA and he admits to trying to pattern his game after the likes of Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson and Eddie Jones (among others) growing up.

Read more NBA news and insight: http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=16289#ixzz0ogmg2uSU

[SenorSpur]

Well that does it. He'll likely be out of the Spurs reach.

[Blackjack]

I guess GMs have come to the same conclusion I have, if we're to believe the reports.

It's just hard to make an argument for 15 better prospects than him. Not that that necessarily means much, it's just the nature of projecting.

[Bruno]

http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2010/05/2010-nba-draft-combine-recap/


George interviewed with ten teams at the combine. The list includes Memphis, San Antonio, Chicago, Phoenix, and Portland just to name a few.

[rayray2k8]

This kid is nice and somewhat reminds me of T-mac, but the problem is he already thinks he can be the next T-mac.
Something to watch out for, but like everyone else is saying, Paul George will be long gone by the 20th pick.
The great thing about it is that there is a lot of talent in this years draft, so no sweat.

[Gino2882]

No doubt George has big time potential. I do think he is gone by #20.

Like has been said though, the talent is deep in this draft. There will be a good big or wing there for the Spurs at #20.

[yavozerb]

4 reps at 185 lbs, seriously....:lmao

[ace3g]

I believe Kevin Durant did about the same and look how he turned out

[yavozerb]

I believe Kevin Durant did about the same and look how he turned out

Please do not ever compare Kevin Durant and Paul George ever again..:nope

[Blackjack]

4 reps at 185 lbs, seriously....:lmao

I guess he's in trouble if they play with a one-hundred-plus pound ball.

It's pretty comical that such superior athletes wouldn't be stronger than most are, as an average Joe like me looks at 185 lbs. and thinks: "Are you kidding me?" But weight-lifting has to be one of the most inconsequential aspects when it comes to basketball. It's basically nothing more than something used to make use of a ridiculous combine.

[ace3g]

I guess he's in trouble if they play with a one-hundred-plus pound ball.

It's pretty comical that such superior athletes wouldn't be stronger than most are, as an average Joe like me looks at 185 lbs. and thinks: "Are you kidding me?" But weight-lifting has to be one of the most inconsequential aspects when it comes to basketball. It's basically nothing more than something used to make use of a ridiculous combine.

exactly +1

[dbestpro]

I guess he's in trouble if they play with a one-hundred-plus pound ball.

It's pretty comical that such superior athletes wouldn't be stronger than most are, as an average Joe like me looks at 185 lbs. and thinks: "Are you kidding me?" But weight-lifting has to be one of the most inconsequential aspects when it comes to basketball. It's basically nothing more than something used to make use of a ridiculous combine.

Bench press is extremely important in basketball. You never know when Shaq might fall on top of you.

[Chieflion]

If I remember correctly, Durant didn't even manage to lift a rep.

[BronxCowboy]

Long arms are a disadvantage when bench-pressing.

[yavozerb]

Long arms are a disadvantage when bench-pressing.

James = 7ft arms= 13 reps
Babbit=6'11 arms=15 reps
Wesley Johnson= 7 ft arms=16 reps

You were saying...These guys are the same size and position.

[Biggems]

I want Paul George, Mikhail Torrance, and Mac Koshwal

[Blackjack]

James = 7ft arms= 13 reps
Babbit=6'11 arms=15 reps
Wesley Johnson= 7 ft arms=16 reps

You were saying...These guys are the same size and position.

It is harder on people with longer arms to bench press. I'm not tellin' you George isn't lifting the weight because of his arms, though -- hell, I'm about 6-0'', weigh around 180 and can probably match the totals of the guys you listed. They ain't beastin' 185.

The point is, upper body strength on a wing player is relative and the type of strength used when lifting weights and playing basketball is apples and oranges. George may not end up being much of a player in the league, I haven't seen enough to tell you one way or another, but if he's got the requisite skill ... his lack of reps won't mean much, if anything (and, yes, Durant is a good example in that one respect).

[duncan228]

NBA Draft Big Board: Top 75 Players (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/basketball/nba/05/26/draft.big.board.1/index.html)
SI.com

27 Paul George
Fresno State, Sophomore
6-7, 185, 20 years old
SF/PF
Smooth, athletic wing with impressive perimeter-shooting ability and considerable upside. Talented player who is somewhat of an enigma. Late bloomer who was not heavily recruited out of high school. Struggled to win games at Fresno State, looking very inconsistent from game to game. Lacks experience and possesses just an average feel for the game.

[BronxCowboy]

James = 7ft arms= 13 reps
Babbit=6'11 arms=15 reps
Wesley Johnson= 7 ft arms=16 reps

You were saying...These guys are the same size and position.

I'm not saying that those guys aren't stronger; I'm sure they are. Just saying that it doesn't matter much.

[yavozerb]

I'm not saying that those guys aren't stronger; I'm sure they are. Just saying that it doesn't matter much.

I guess it depends on what kind of SF are looking for...If they are looking for someone to play 3 and small ball 4 then George is obviously not your man and a better choice would be babbit,james, and pondexter since they seem to have much more strength to play down low. If the spurs are happy with a player who can simply guard the 3 and plays more on the outside with good 3 pts shooting then George is your man.

[yavozerb]

Tough not to watch Paul George work out and not come away impressed. He's just oozing with talent already & has so much room to grow still.
- draftexpress twitter

[tav1]

I'm really surprised by Babbit's all around athletic ability. If he played defense he could be a top 10 pick.

He might still be a lottery pick, even without defense.

[Ditty]

Tough not to watch Paul George work out and not come away impressed. He's just oozing with talent already & has so much room to grow still.
- draftexpress twitter

stop playing good paul george please:bang

[Biggems]

If the Spurs ever drafted a player who's thread is over 100 posts long a whole month before the draft, hell would freeze over. Both George Hill and DeJuan had like 6 posts until they were drafted by SA.

so Mikhail Torrance and Mac Koshwal it is:lol

[Libri]

If the Spurs ever drafted a player who's thread is over 100 posts long a whole month before the draft, hell would freeze over. Both George Hill and DeJuan had like 6 posts until they were drafted by SA.

I remember we said that the Spurs had zero chance of getting Blair.

The Spurs have zero chance of getting George. :D :smokin

[TimDunkem]

Haha, he really does.

[Libri]

ivCtVeCP9XM

No wonder scouts are impressed. It's so easy for him to make those shots. :wow

[SenorSpur]

He's got a terrific stroke from the perimeter.

[DPG21920]

His frame reminds me of Rudy Gay, but he does not seem as athletic as Gay. He is definitely a very nice athlete though.

Also, is that Nick Young in the blue shirt?

[Biggems]

I really want this guy. Honestly, I could care less about even having a 2nd round pick if we could get him. Use our 2nd to move up....Just get this guy on our team.

I can honestly see him being a poor man's Scottie Pippen, in the right system...a system that promotes defensive intensity. Now that Thibadeaux is with the Bulls, I am worried that George will not fall to us at 20.

My ideal draft would be Paul George, Mikhail Torrance (a pick acquired for future considerations), and a big, maybe Mac Koshwal.

[Darkwaters]

I really want this guy. Honestly, I could care less about even having a 2nd round pick if we could get him. Use our 2nd to move up....Just get this guy on our team.

I can honestly see him being a poor man's Scottie Pippen, in the right system...a system that promotes defensive intensity. Now that Thibadeaux is with the Bulls, I am worried that George will not fall to us at 20.

My ideal draft would be Paul George, Mikhail Torrance (a pick acquired for future considerations), and a big, maybe Mac Koshwal.

I think everyone that reads the think tank knows where you stand on draft picks!

[TimDunkem]

I think everyone that reads the think tank knows where you stand on draft picks!
Thank you...I feel like I've read that same post 10 times already.

[DesignatedT]

At this point I wouldn't be surprised to see George crack the top 10. total pipe dream at this point

[yavozerb]

Just to let everyone know how pointless bench press is I'll let you in on a little known fact. Earl Boykins can bench 300 pounds in reps. Yeah...

I do not believe it is as worthles as you believe. George is a SF who should be able to play inside and outside. What I get out of the low bench press is his weakness to play down low. I believe he is an effective outside shooter but his chances to playing down low against a SF or even most sg's in the NBA just isnt going to happen with his weak upper body. Same thing applies on defense, I believe his weakness on defense will be getting posted up and not having the strength to hold his position. Would this low score keep me from drafting him, heck no cause all this can be improved.

[Biggems]

I think everyone that reads the think tank knows where you stand on draft picks!

i know...but if i post it enough, maybe...just maybe it will come true

[Biggems]

If James could get consistency on his shot, improve his FT% and his ball handling, he could be a beast in the NBA. He should be one helluva defensive player.

As for Babbit.....if he was as good on defense as he is on offense, he would probably be drafted before Wesley Johnson.

[duncan228]

Five potential sleepers in the draft (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/basketball/nba/06/10/draft.sleeper.candidates/index.html)
By Jonathan Givony, DraftExpress.com

Paul George, SF, Soph., Fresno State

Standing 6-9 in shoes, with a versatile skill set and the type of fluid athleticism that makes scouts drool, George clearly passes the eye test. Offensively, George can create for himself with terrific footwork and pull up off the dribble with ease, and he shot 46 percent from three-point range as a freshman. Defensively, George has the physical tools to guard multiple positions and block shots and the anticipation to wreak havoc in the passing lanes. He averaged 16.8 points, 7.2 rebounds, 3.0 assists and 2.2 steals last season.

Why, then, can't anyone figure out where he'll be drafted? Because George didn't influence the game at the college level the way his talent would indicate he could have. He was wildly inconsistent, didn't always put in a great effort and rarely won in his two seasons at Fresno State (the Bulldogs went 28-39), often looking content taking a backseat to others.

That doesn't tell the whole story, though, as George is a late bloomer who hasn't been playing basketball as long as most prospects, and probably still doesn't really have any idea how good he can be. The coaching he received up until this point likely leaves something to be desired as well.

George is one of the most talented players available, and he will be less and less of a risk as the draft progresses. If the light bulb comes on for him, he could be a huge steal in the middle of the first round.

[Mr Bones]

Just to let everyone know how pointless bench press is I'll let you in on a little known fact. Earl Boykins can bench 300 pounds in reps. Yeah...

:lol Kevin Durant couldn't lift the bar even one time at the combine...

[SenorSpur]

Just to let everyone know how pointless bench press is I'll let you in on a little known fact. Earl Boykins can bench 300 pounds in reps. Yeah...

...which allows him to hoist up 3 times as many shots as most PG/SGs, in a reserve role, no less.

[Blackjack]

If for no other reason, I'd love to see the smile on Ice's face when talking about this kid being a Spur. It'd be great to see Ice develop a relationship with George and kinda take him under his wing. Ice2K? :smokin

The draft never ends up going how you'd expect and the player you hope for doesn't end up getting drafted unless the Spurs are picking first, but I'd be ecstatic if they could buck the trend this year. Hopefully they can move up and grab him; he just makes too much sense.

[Mark in Austin]

Rave review from his Spurs workout? Kevin Pritchard is now furiously working the phones to get a pick higher than 19...


No need for the Blazers to draft a 2/3 this year. They already have Claver along with Webster and Batum.


Never underestimate Pritchard's innate need to prove he's smarter than San Antonio, the team that didn't think highly enough of him to make him more than a scout / intern / janitor / whatever he was here.


From TrueHoop: (http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/16755/kevin-pritchard-going-out-in-a-blaze-of-glory)

Two league sources told ESPN.com that the Blazers (who pick at No. 22) have been very active in trade discussions. Specifically, the team has been hunting for a pick in the mid-first round -- somewhere between 16 and 19. They appear to be trying to move ahead of the San Antonio Spurs, who pick 20.

It's Chad Ford, so take it with a grain of salt, but damn. If nothing else, Pritchard is predictable. :lol

[Ditty]

From TrueHoop: (http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/16755/kevin-pritchard-going-out-in-a-blaze-of-glory)

Two league sources told ESPN.com that the Blazers (who pick at No. 22) have been very active in trade discussions. Specifically, the team has been hunting for a pick in the mid-first round -- somewhere between 16 and 19. They appear to be trying to move ahead of the San Antonio Spurs, who pick 20.

It's Chad Ford, so take it with a grain of salt, but damn. If nothing else, Pritchard is predictable. :lol

yah but I dont see why they would need george if they have batum,webster, and claver

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

George is an interesting player because to me he looked rather turnover prone in college. He also wasn't exactly a deadeye from 3, hitting only 35%. This in an average basketball conference. I wasn't even sure he was worth the 20th pick and now people are talking lottery. I guess for some guys the combines pay.

[Taking it to the Hole]

He will be long gone before the Spurs pick. No way is he going to drop to 20. The combination of size and strength at the guard position is just too tempting for a team to pass up and we have to wait for 19 other teams ahead of us to not be tempted.

[The Truth #6]

Please tell me that RC and Pop are baiting that DB Pritchard.

[Biggems]

yep, unless we trade up, we can forget about George.....this sucks.

I was really hoping he would stay under the radar and we nab him at 20. Then I was hoping to use future considerations to acquire a player drafted in the early 2nd round (Mikhail Torrance)....then use our pic on Mac Koshwal.

If we do not trade up and George is gone, I hope we go after Damion James as a consolation prize.

[Ditty]

i read on clutchfans that paul george has a promise from the twolves with the 16th pick they think a paul george and wesley johnson as the starting 2 & 3 would be pretty good so unless spurs move up to take the bucks pick then I dont know about paul george

[DesignatedT]

i read on clutchfans that paul george has a promise from the twolves with the 16th pick they think a paul george and wesley johnson as the starting 2 & 3 would be pretty good so unless spurs move up to take the bucks pick then I dont know about paul george

I love both Wesley Johnson and Paul George. That would be pretty sick.

[Pistons < Spurs]

SpearsNBAYahoo

Fresno State's Paul George was invited to NBA Draft green room today, source said. Say hello to the Cinderella of the draft.

[Blackjack]

Well, that just about insures a lottery pick. Not a guarantee, but they've made sure to not have to deal with the Jameer Nelson and Brady Quinn scenarios in recent years. The lottery residents have to have made the commish feel he'd be taken by one of them.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Draftexpress now has him at 12. Well out of our range now. Pity.

At this point I'd be trading down a few spots for Pondexter or Anderson.

[Blackjack]

TrueHoop Network Mock Draft: The Indiana Pacers Select… (http://www.eightpointsnineseconds.com/)
by Tim Donahue

With the 10th pick in the first annual TrueHoop Network Mock Draft, the Indiana Pacers select…

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Paul George of Fresno State University

Rationale: The bigs that the Pacers were really interested in — Monroe, Aminu and Udoh — are all off the board. I don’t think that they would draft Ed Davis to keep him, as he’s maybe three or four years away from being a contributor and doesn’t look to have huge upside. And the only other big to really consider here, Cole Aldrich, is too redundant to Roy Hibbert.

Other rumbles have the Pacers targeting Avery Bradley here, who makes sense as a perimeter defender, but is a bit of a stretch at pick #10. Also, he’s more of a 2 than a 1. In fact, I told Jared that’s who I was going to draft but then went back and re-read some notes and scouting reports and changed my mind. It’s possible that they go that direction, but I think they’ll end up liking Paul George as a more versatile, more NBA-ready player. He could potentially take Rush’s job at the 2. Or, if Murphy is traded away, he could even end up playing some “stretch” 4 in the system. Overall, he looks like a very strong defender for the 3, a good defender at 4 and a passable-to-solid defender at the 2.

More than anything, however, the choices left in this mock draft underscore how much the Pacers really are — and probably should be — looking to trade down or out of this draft. Indiana, most of all, needs guard help and there isn’t a lot they can get at pick #10 that’s better than what they can get even after the lottery. Thus, I would be very surprised if the Pacers have this pick come draft night.

The New Orleans Hornets are now on the clock (http://www.hornets247.com/blog)…

[Blackjack]

I get the feeling if the Spurs move up it they are not looking at Paul George.

I agree. I'd honestly expect to be underwhelmed and for the Spurs to probably go big, maybe even going Orton as a long-term pick -- the Spurs don't get the opportunity to draft at-or-near the top for the best prospects and if they could get a big they believed in for the future and hang on to the 20 by moving Hill, they could very well draft Williams or Jones as his replacement.

Of course, should they actually move Parker, than it's really all up in the air; I'd still think that Williams makes a lot of sense for them at 20, given how he could compliment Hill and seemingly make a contribution right off the bat.

Two-more-days . . .

[DesignatedT]

Would anyone do Hill +#20 for Rush + #10 and use it to draft george?

[TIMMYD!]

This might be the most excited I've ever been for a draft.

[Blackjack]

Would anyone do Hill +#20 for Rush + #10 and use it to draft george?

If the Spurs drafted George with the 10, meaning they deem him worthy, yes. I've discussed this on a couple of occasions.


I've made an argument and could definitely see the validity to a trade involving Hill and probably their 20 for Rush and their first-rounder, but I have a hard time believing they'd move Parker for the 10, Rush and Murphy.

[scottspurs]

This might be the most excited I've ever been for a draft.

Don't get your hopes to high. After all the spurs could just end up trading their pick for cash.

[TIMMYD!]

Don't get your hopes to high. After all the spurs could just end up trading their pick for cash.

They would have probably done that by now.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

So let's say Hill and Anderson (#20) for Rush and George (#10)... you really think that's a good trade? I think Hill blossomed last year but still has some way to go in terms of improvement, knows the system, still young... I just don't see how you can shift him for a mediocre SG and a maybe at SF. Hill is already a very good NBA player who has the potential to be even better, and you'd trade him for question marks? I wouldn't, unless George is a lock to be an NBA starter and premier lockdown perimeter defender (see, Batum, Nicolas)... is anyone going to call that for George at this point?

I'd rather trade down a few spots and take Pondexter (or Anderson), or even take one of them at 20. But then I haven't seen enough of George to be wowed by him like some other people obviously have.

[Blackjack]

Good seein' you back around, Ruff. :tu

As for the take, here's my rationale and thought process:


You're not gonna find a bigger Hill fan than myself and I'm in no way advocating for his departure. But if what Kori's said in the past is true, that the Spurs view Hill to be a 2 (and I have no reason to believe what she says isn't true), the possibility of acquiring Rush (a guy who's 6-6 in shoes and has nice length) and the 10th pick might be the right move to make, even if unpopular.

Rush could be one of the best potential 'Centerpieces' they could find for next year, as he's a solid defender and just got done shooting 40-percent from three. And if they're high enough on someone like George ... they could have the size and length set on their perimeter for a long time.

DX currently has Davis off the board at 10 and their doesn't seem to be a lot of separation between the prospects in that 10-20 range (DX's current 10-20: Ekpe Udoh, Patrick Patterson, Luke Babbitt, Avery Bradley, Cole Aldrich, Gordon Hayward, Paul George, Damion James, Hassan Whiteside, Daniel Orton, Larry Sanders), but the combination of Rush and one of those prospects could very well address more needs and put them in better position, both short and long-term, than Hill. Could.

I really don't want to see Hill go. He's one of my favorite players. But there's an argument to be made that it'd be best for the team if this deal could be done.


Even if they had to exchange first-rounders and make it essentially Hill for Rush, I think that's probably the prudent move for the Spurs to make if they believe in the player they can get at 10.

Indiana would be getting the best player, probably both short and long-term (as I'm not informed enough to tell you how good those 10-20 players are this year -- I just didn't see enough), but Rush fills a need immediately and would likely be much better than anyone they could get at 20. Then it's down to the 10 and Hill and even if that pick never manages to be as good as Hill, he'd seemingly be a pretty nice player at a position of greater need; or he'd at least have the body to play the position he was deemed of being.

If Paul George is really a player and someone who could eventually turn into a borderline star or even just a starter and they get a proven guy like Rush to go alongside of him, that really could turn out quite well: George envisions himself as a 6-8 shooting guard and Rush's offensive game falls right in line with a Spurs small forward. They could potentially have found the size and skill on the wing for the present and future with one fell swoop.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

I see your logic Blackjack, but I do think there is a tendency to over-rate the newcomers just before draft time... then again, a number of columnists have stated that George has the potential to be a star, so maybe it's worth the gamble.

The other aspect worth considering here is the organisation's character - I simply can't see Pop/RC trading Hill away when he's just coming into his own and we're thin on PGs (even though Hill is more of a combo guard).

I think I'll just shut up and watch since I've been too busy with life lately to really assess what is going on... yeah, I'll just stay quiet and scratch my head when we draft Igor Blodinovic from Lower Intestistan, who turns out to be the best balla we've never heard of! :lmao

[Blackjack]

I'll just stay quiet and scratch my head when we draft Igor Blodinovic from Lower Intestistan

:lol

Nice.

[admiralsnackbar]

I simply can't see Pop/RC trading Hill away when he's just coming into his own and we're thin on PGs (even though Hill is more of a combo guard).



For the money we're paying him? I agree. He might be a sweetener, but he'd have to be netting something pretty effing sweet in return.

[EricB]

I'd like to think trading Hill would net more than Brandon Rush, BUT, if the 10th pick nets someone really really good that you can start at small forward, slide Jefferson to the 2, or vice versa, or someone stupidly trades for Jefferson, then I can see it.

Parker no, Hill? Much more expendable IMO.

[SenorSpur]

Makes a lot of sense. If the Spurs have any chance to move up to get George, I would certainly do it, if I'm them. If the Spurs do decide to sacrifice a player to move up, I would that it would be Hill rather than Parker. The only problem is the money issue with Parker. Hill is on a cheap contract, while Parker will likely be looking for a max contract next summer. However, if the Spurs can successfully dump RJ, or when he walks next summer, then there's available cash there.