Dejuan Blair or Marcus Thornton?

[Boss]

Looking back at the 2009 NBA Draft the two 2nd round steals were Blair and Thornton, but which player would Spurs fans rather have seen taken w/ the 37th pick.

Dejuan Blair or Marcus Thornton?

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[Leetonidas]

Thornton is a volume scorer and needs the ball to be effective. Blair all day man.

[ChumpDumper]

We don't need any more undersized guards.

[FeZZy]

how about jack mcclinton or marcus thornton just to picks afterward

[ffadicted]

Blair gimme gimme gimme

[exstatic]

Blair. Two guards who can occasionally light it up grow on trees. Guys who can grab 20 boards don't.

[exstatic]

how about jack mcclinton or marcus thornton just to picks afterward

It would have come down to Thornton or Hairston. We had 14 guaranteed contracts in camp.

[Mr. Body]

Blair. Two guards who can occasionally light it up grow on trees. Guys who can grab 20 boards don't.

[Muser]

Jonas Jerebko was a great steal aswell. wish we could of grabbed him.

[peter_slb]

Blair is, by far, the steal of the draft. If Pop gave him more minutes he would be fighting for the rookie of the year award, as he proved in the rookie challenge.

[DMX7]

BLAIR!!!! You can't get big men that late in the draft that often.

[angelbelow]

For this specific team, DEFINITELY Blair. I think we have enough scoring and if i recall Thornton had maturity issues albeit it was with Bryon Scott.

If I were new orleans, I would still pick Blair, they obviously lack toughness and rebounding.

[timtonymanu]

Blair.

He's a hard worker and just wants to win. I think when Thornton becomes much more popular he'll leave the Hornets for a winning team and demand alot of money.

[TD 21]

Blair. He's a better player now, has a higher upside and positionally fits a greater need for the Spurs. Thornton looks like a better version of Murray. A quality off the bench scorer; 6th man at best, 8th at worst. Blair, on the other hand, looks like a quality second big and someone who can easily average a double double. Big difference.

[raspsa]

As a rule, good bigs are harder to find than good small players IMO. Really though, its a case of which player fills a team's needs. For the Spurs, that's Blair.

[Bukefal]

Blair!!

Btw. there was a nice article of him in Slam, titled; the rookie monster :)

[BRHornet45]

lol bias ass Spurs fans. why even post these types of questions?

[BRHornet45]

Blair.

He's a hard worker and just wants to win. I think when Thornton becomes much more popular he'll leave the Hornets for a winning team and demand alot of money.

son Thornton has 3 years left under his rookie contract, plus he is from Louisiana.

[exstatic]

lol bias ass Spurs fans. why even post these types of questions?

You'd be surprised how many stupid Spurs fans would want a chucker over a premium rebounder.

[tothrowed]

blair

[BRHornet45]

You'd be surprised how many stupid Spurs fans would want a chucker over a premium rebounder.

LMAO! dude Blair is only grabbing 6 rebounds a game! what an incredible rebounder!!!!

[BRHornet45]

also LOL at people saying Thornton is an undersized guard ... WTF do you think Blair is? he is terribly undersized at his position at only 6'7!

[ChumpDumper]

LMAO! dude Blair is only grabbing 6 rebounds a game! what an incredible rebounder!!!!On a per minute basis, he's a more productive rebounder than Tim Duncan and all but three other people in the NBA. He's quite a good rebounder.

[BRHornet45]

sons all I'm saying is that questions/polls like this are pointless on here. it wouldn't matter WHO was in the discussion, most of you will side with the Spurs players everytime. in this situation, Thornton is CLEARLY the better player SO FAR ... but most of you simply just turn the other cheek.

[BRHornet45]

On a per minute basis, he's a more productive rebounder than Tim Duncan and all but three other people in the NBA. He's quite a good rebounder.

yea and on a per minute basis Thornton is averaging over 20 points a game and only 3 less rebounds per game than Blair. only 3 less!

[DPG21920]

BRHornet, don't let foolish pride cloud your judgment. You normally use sound logic. Blair is a great rebounder. Most everyone would take Blair over Thornton.

[ChumpDumper]

yea and on a per minute basis Thornton is averaging over 20 points a gamePer 48 so is Blair.
and only 3 less rebounds per game than Blair. only 3 less!On a per 48 basis, it's 11 less.

[BRHornet45]

BRHornet, don't let foolish pride cloud your judgment. You normally use sound logic. Blair is a great rebounder. Most everyone would take Blair over Thornton.

lol son you guys are the ones who need to take the homer / beer goggles off. Thornton does pretty much everything better than Blair. the ONLY thing Blair has Thornton beat on is rebounding and not by that much when you break it down per minute. regardless, you guys claim that Blair is such a beast at rebounding, then it is pretty pathetic that a 6'4 guard is only 3 rebounds behind him.

[DPG21920]

lol son you guys are the ones who need to take the homer / beer goggles off. Thornton does pretty much everything better than Blair. the ONLY thing Blair has Thornton beat on is rebounding and not by that much when you break it down per minute. regardless, you guys claim that Blair is such a beast at rebounding, then it is pretty pathetic that a 6'4 guard is only 3 rebounds behind him.

Your numbers are wrong.

[BRHornet45]

Per 48 so is Blair.On a per 48 basis, it's 11 less.

LMAO at you twisting the stats! son we are going by the STANDARD per 36 minutes. regardless it doesn't matter how you try to twist the stats around, Thornton does everything better aside from rebounding.

lmao son what's next? .... "but but but Blair averages 11 rebounds per game on Thursdays!!!"

[BRHornet45]

Your numbers are wrong.

no they are not. you guys are just trying to twist the stats in favor of Blair. the standard per minute rule is based on 36 minutes. I didn't make that up, go look at professional statistic sites. but like I said it doesn't matter either way. totals, per game, per 36 minutes, Thornton is better in nearly every stat. here are some links since my numbers are "wrong" according to you.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/t/thornma01.html

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/blairde01.html

[ChumpDumper]

LMAO at you twisting the stats! son we are going by the STANDARD per 36 minutes.The NBA lists it per 48. Take it up with them.


regardless it doesn't matter how you try to twist the stats around, Thornton does everything better aside from rebounding.He doesn't block better than Blair.


lmao son what's next? .... "but but but Blair averages 11 rebounds per game on Thursdays!!!"Next you'll be saying Thornton blocks better than Blair -- oh, wait. You already said that. :lmao

[DPG21920]

Blair Per 36:

56% FG, 15.4 PTS, 12.4 REB, 1.4 AST, 1.2 STL. 1.1 BLK, 2.6 TO's

Thornton Per 36:

45% FG, 20.1 PTS, 4.1 REB, 1.7 AST, 1.1 STL, .2 BLK, 1.4 TO's

So Blair shoots better, kills him on the boards, about the same on ast, better steals and more blocks.

[BRHornet45]

The NBA lists it per 48. Take it up with them.

He doesn't block better than Blair.

Next you'll be saying Thornton blocks better than Blair -- oh, wait. You already said that. :lmao

ROTFLMAO!!! son go look at the links I provided. the standard rule of thumb is based on per game stats, and if you break it down to minutes it is based on per 36 minutes.

oh and LOL ... your "beast" Blair only has .4 more rebounds than Thornton per game! so impressive! Thornton will have the better career because he is actually a hard worker and takes care of himself. Blair is fat and will probably eat himself out of the NBA by the time he is 25.

[ChumpDumper]

Blair Per 36:

56% FG, 15.4 PTS, 12.4 REB, 1.4 AST, 1.2 STL. 1.1 BLK, 2.6 TO's

Thornton Per 36:

45% FG, 20.1 PTS, 4.1 REB, 1.7 AST, 1.1 STL, .2 BLK, 1.4 TO's

So Blair shoots better, kills him on the boards, about the same on ast, better steals and more blocks.That can't be true. BRWhiteGuy45 said Thornton was a better shot blocker than Blair!

[DPG21920]

The link you posted BR shows the PER 36 numbers I posted. I don't know where you are getting your PER 36 stats from.

[BRHornet45]

Blair Per 36:

56% FG, 15.4 PTS, 12.4 REB, 1.4 AST, 1.2 STL. 1.1 BLK, 2.6 TO's

Thornton Per 36:

45% FG, 20.1 PTS, 4.1 REB, 1.7 AST, 1.1 STL, .2 BLK, 1.4 TO's

So Blair shoots better, kills him on the boards, about the same on ast, better steals and more blocks.

son I would hope to God that a power foward has a better field goal percentage than a shooting guard! son why don't you expose the REAL stats which are PER GAME? not this "per 36 minutes" or "only Thursday night game" stats!

[ChumpDumper]

ROTFLMAO!!! son go look at the links I provided. the standard rule of thumb is based on per game stats, and if you break it down to minutes it is based on per 36 minutes.Look at the NBA site. Which site is run by the NBA?


oh and LOL ... your "beast" Blair only has .4 more rebounds than Thornton per game! so impressive!So why do you run away from the per 36 stats in this case? Because you are twisting the numbers.


Thornton will have the better career because he is actually a hard worker and takes care of himself. Blair is fat and will probably eat himself out of the NBA by the time he is 25.You said Thornton is a better shot blocker than Blair. :lmao

[BRHornet45]

The link you posted BR shows the PER 36 numbers I posted. I don't know where you are getting your PER 36 stats from.

son post the PER GAME stats. those are the REAL numbers. anyways, you act as if Blair has incredible numbers per 36 ... the dude turns the ball over more than Deron Williams!

[DPG21920]

LMAO at you twisting the stats! son we are going by the STANDARD per 36 minutes. regardless it doesn't matter how you try to twist the stats around, Thornton does everything better aside from rebounding.

lmao son what's next? .... "but but but Blair averages 11 rebounds per game on Thursdays!!!"


son I would hope to God that a power foward has a better field goal percentage than a shooting guard! son why don't you expose the REAL stats which are PER GAME? not this "per 36 minutes" or "only Thursday night game" stats!

Sons, you were the one arguing for PER 36 minute stats.

[ChumpDumper]

son I would hope to God that a power foward has a better field goal percentage than a shooting guard!But you said Thornton does everything better than Blair except rebound.

Were you lying?

Yes or no.

[BRHornet45]

Blair is a good player, but doesn't take care of himself and is TERRIBLY overweight. LOL at Spurs fans thinking this enchilada eating blimp is the best rookie in the NBA! Thornton will go on to be an all star shooting guard will Blair will be beasting it up at the all you can eat buffet lines!

[DPG21920]

Because if you are comparing players, it is fair to have them on an equal playing field. PER minute stats do that to a large degree. If you take it in context.

[DPG21920]

No one thinks he is the best rookie, but he is clearly better than Thornton.

[BRHornet45]

But you said Thornton does everything better than Blair except rebound.

Were you lying?

Yes or no.

son God forbid I forgot about blocks! but LOL at you acting as if Blair is a good shot blocker. he is PATHETIC at blocking shots for a power forward. he only averages 0.5 blocks per game which is only .4 more than Thornton LOL

[BRHornet45]

No one thinks he is the best rookie, but he is clearly better than Thornton.

take your homer goggles off fuck face. seriously grow a set.

[BRHornet45]

Thornton is MUCH better than Blair. LOL at some of you acting like its impressive for a big, fat, black man to be able to out rebound a 6'4 shooting guard!!!

[ChumpDumper]

Blair is a good player, but doesn't take care of himself and is TERRIBLY overweight.Not terribly anymore.


LOL at Spurs fans thinking this enchilada eating blimp is the best rookie in the NBA!He's up there.


Thornton will go on to be an all star shooting guard will Blair will be beasting it up at the all you can eat buffet lines!Sorry he made your big men look like pansies. He does that a lot. I can understand your whining about him, son, but try to be a man.

[ChumpDumper]

son God forbid I forgot about blocks! but LOL at you acting as if Blair is a good shot blocker. he is PATHETIC at blocking shots for a power forward. he only averages 0.5 blocks per game which is only .4 more than Thornton LOLThat's quite a lot better.

He's also better from the filed, so you lied twice.

[BRHornet45]

Not terribly anymore.

He's up there.

Sorry he made your big men look like pansies. He does that a lot. I can understand your whining about him.

son and sorry Thornton raped your guards and scored all over your big men driving thru the lane like it was nothing. Parker took him out with a cheap shot.

oh and LOL at you bragging about scoring on West and Okafor! son that doesn't take much talent to do!

[ChumpDumper]

son and sorry Thornton raped your guards and scored all over your big men driving thru the lane like it was nothing.Our team isn't very good defensively. That's nothing new.


Parker took him out with a cheap shot.LMAO son, you whine like a little girl! It's a man's game. If your boy can't take it, he doesn't deserve to be out there.


oh and LOL at you bragging about scoring on West and Okafor! son that doesn't take much talent to do!I wasn't talking about scoring, son, but keep whining. It's entertaining.

[BRHornet45]

Our team isn't very good defensively. That's nothing new.

LMAO son, you whine like a little girl!

I wasn't talking about scoring, son, but keep whining. It's entertaining.

son then what were you talking about? defense? LOL cause West put up what? 22 points last night ... great D from that beast Blair!

[ChumpDumper]

son then what were you talking about?LMAO son. Keep guessing, you might just get it.
defense? LOL cause West put up what? 22 points last night ... great D from that beast Blair!Especially since West was being guarded by Bonner!

Did you even watch the game, son?

Can you not afford cable, son?

[ChumpDumper]

I'm sorry, son.

I didn't mean to make fun of your financial situation, son.

One of these days you'll be able to watch your favorite team, son. I just know it, son.

[BRHornet45]

LMAO son. Keep guessing, you might just get it.Especially since West was being guarded by Bonner!

Did you even watch the game, son?

Can you not afford cable, son?

lol sons keep digging that hole!

Blair is the best ever! crown him rookie of the year and MVP of the Piccadilly buffet line!

lol at clueless Spurs fans!

[ChumpDumper]

lol sons keep digging that hole!Still haven't figured it out, son?


Blair is the best ever! crown him rookie of the year and MVP of the Piccadilly buffet line!Nah, I'd just rather have him on the Spurs than Thornton, son.


lol at clueless Spurs fans!Sorry you couldn't see the game, son.

[DPG21920]

This is not being a homer. Blair is better.

[BRHornet45]

sons like I said it wouldn't matter who was in the question, you all will side with the Spurs no matter what. as if its a knock to your pride or something.

[ChumpDumper]

sons like I said it wouldn't matter who was in the question, you all will side with the Spurs no matter what. as if its a knock to your pride or something.No, son, I would rather have Lebron James on the Spurs than DeJuan Blair, son.

Do you want to start a thread about that, son?

[BRHornet45]

No, I would rather have Lebron James than DeJuan Blair.

point proven. thank you for your foolishness

[DPG21920]

sons like I said it wouldn't matter who was in the question, you all will side with the Spurs no matter what. as if its a knock to your pride or something.

So are you a homer by this logic? You will argue for the Hornet as if its a knock to your pride or something?

[ChumpDumper]

point proven.Exactly, son. I proved that I would take another player over a Spur, son.


thank you for your foolishnessYou're saying I would be foolish to take Lebron over Blair, son. You're the fool, son.

[BRHornet45]

So are you a homer by this logic? You will argue for the Hornet as if its a knock to your pride or something?

son obviously you're having trouble reading and comprehending .... scroll back up, I clearly hated on West and Okafor. I have a history of ripping our lazy ass players UNLIKE most of you Spurs fans who are clueless to your teams suckassness.

[phxspurfan]

Well now that Parker is hurt we'll take Thornton!

[DPG21920]

son obviously you're having trouble reading and comprehending .... scroll back up, I clearly hated on West and Okafor. I have a history of ripping our lazy ass players UNLIKE most of you Spurs fans who are clueless to your teams suckassness.

And plenty of Spurs fans rip RJ and Dice and TP, so what is your point? You are being a homer in this argument by your logic.

[BRHornet45]

And plenty of Spurs fans rip RJ and Dice and TP, so what is your point? You are being a homer in this argument by your logic.

son that is simply not true because I am a Silver Stars fan first.

[ChumpDumper]

son that is simply not true because I am a Silver Stars fan first.Which Silver Stars have you ripped?

Show us some links.

[BRHornet45]

Which Silver Stars have you ripped?

Show us some links.

son Becky is all I see ... Becky Becky marry me!!!

[ChumpDumper]

son Becky is all I see ... Becky Becky marry me!!!So you're a hypocrite too, son.

And a liar, son.

What a sad display, son.