Spurs need to give Antonio Daniels a call or find a point guard fast

[gospursgojas]

Hill is a sg and Mason is most def not a pg

[Obstructed_View]

But Pop loves George Hill. Everything's going to be fine.

[hoopdreams11]

S Livingston

[ChumpDumper]

My favorite PG call up candidate is probably Mustafa Shakur.

[ace3g]

http://www.nba.com/dleague/playerfile/gamelogs.jsp?player=mustafa_shakur

[gospursgojas]

My favorite PG call up candidate is probably Mustafa Shakur.

Of course...the son of the dad lion in The Lion Kong and tupac. :lol

They need someone by the 15 anyway

[TimDunkem]

S Livingston
The Wizards signed him to a 10-day contract.

[Obstructed_View]

Of course...the son of the dad lion in The Lion Kong and tupac. :lol

They need someone by the 15 anyway

Mustaafaaaaaa

[Spurs Brazil]

I like the AD option now.

Playing 10-15 minutes off the bench won't hurt

[TimmehC]

You just know they're going to call up Jerrells instead.

[Obstructed_View]

You just know they're going to call up Jerrells instead.

I hope he's improved a lot since college. He wasn't really a point guard. Pop does love chuckers though.

[ChumpDumper]

You just know they're going to call up Jerrells instead.Jerrells would be fine as well, though I have been largely disappointed with his defense this season. His point guard skills aren't that bad; still need work.

[hoopdreams11]

what's up with speedy?

[4>0rings]

How long till Pop begs Avery Johnson to suit up?

[Obstructed_View]

what's up with speedy?

Hey, I heard Nick Van Exel's not playing anywhere! Too bad Vinny Del Negro's busy with that thing in Illinois...

[gospursgojas]

Hey, I heard Nick Van Exel's not playing anywhere! Too bad Vinny Del Negro's busy with that thing in Illinois...

What about Jason Hart or Anthony Goldwire???

[Duncan2177]

Bobby Jackson?

[Leetonidas]

Mike Wilks anybody?

[gospursgojas]

Ok ill say it....

Jacque Vaughn

[ChumpDumper]

I'd get a vet if I thought this was a championship team.

As it is, I would rather audition some young guys for a future bench/reserve PG.

[ElNono]

We've been needing a backup PG for a couple months now... Time to make it happen

[benefactor]

I'd get a vet if I thought this was a championship team.

As it is, I would rather audition some young guys for a future bench/reserve PG.
:tu

[ShoogarBear]

Mike Gale

[urunobili]

AD would rock... I'm all for getting him

[poop]

Manu is by far the best playmaker/creator we have, play him at pg.

seriously, every single time Manu takes it from the top and runs the point, he makes SOMETHING happen, either he scores, gets fouled, or gets someone else a good shot, every single time.

[ChumpDumper]

Manu is by far the best playmaker/creator we have, play him at pg.

seriously, every single time Manu takes it from the top and runs the point, he makes SOMETHING happen, either he scores, gets fouled, or gets someone else a good shot, every single time.Great, he can handle the ball but no way I'm going to have him guard opposing point guards full time.

[redzero]

If you think Daniels will help your team in any way, you're a fucking moron.

[TD 21]

This team needs a veteran PG to get them through probably the remainder of the regular season, or close to it. So forget about Jerrells, Shakur, etc. at this point. Think more along the lines of James, possibly Daniels. They better not even think about bringing back Vaughn, Claxton (I believe he's actually injured, shockingly) or Wilks.

James is clearly the best talent left, but he's shot happy and has an inflated sense of self worth, so he wouldn't really fit in with the Spurs culture per se, although I'm not sure the Spurs can afford to be picky in this case.

Daniels, who knows what type of shape he's in? He hasn't played in the league this year and it's a little late now. Plus he was clearly done last season.

I wonder if the Spurs will give the newly appointed player development coach of the Bulls, Hunter, a call? At his age, I doubt he can still keep up, but he was once one of the best on-ball defensive PG's probably of all-time.

All three of these guys are more combo guards than natural PG's, but the pickings are slim.

[poop]

he doesnt have to guard the other pg just because he runs the point. all im saying is, Mnau is the only true playmaker we have. and hes damn good at it. hes one of the very best passers and creators in the entire NBA. id rotate mason and Malik at the 2, malik can guard any guard well.

[ohmwrecker]

Mike James? Anyone?

[Otaku]

Manu at PG = problem solved.

[ChumpDumper]

James? Dude hasn't shot over 40% from the floor in four years. That's rather amazing.

[TD 21]

Mike James? Anyone?

I'd be surprised if he's not the guy. He's by far the best option available and even though he's not ideal, he's a knockdown shooter from three and is still capable of being a rotation player (at least temporarily) in the league, unlike all of the other veterans available.

If Parker were healthy, I think Jerrells would have got the spot, but at this point the Spurs need a reliable veteran. For the time being, I suspect we'll primarily see a nine man rotation, with Hairston receiving spot minutes.

[ChumpDumper]

he doesnt have to guard the other pg just because he runs the point. all im saying is, Mnau is the only true playmaker we have. and hes damn good at it. hes one of the very best passers and creators in the entire NBA. id rotate mason and Malik at the 2, malik can guard any guard well.Malik can't guard any (meaning every) guard. He can guard a lot of them.

[OrEmuN]

James is clearly the best talent left, but he's shot happy and has an inflated sense of self worth, so he wouldn't really fit in with the Spurs culture per se, although I'm not sure the Spurs can afford to be picky in this case.


True ... but that has not stop FO from signing Damon Stoudamire or Nick van Exel.... I guess Spurs just have to take the best option out there even though it is not ideal

[ElNono]

Paging Jacque Vaughn...

[Das Texan]

Wonder if Johnny Moore could still suit up...

[TD 21]

True ... but that has not stop FO from signing Damon Stoudamire or Nick van Exel.... I guess Spurs just have to take the best option out there even though it is not ideal

Yeah, I think so too. At the very least, we know this guy is in NBA shape, can handle the ball some and can shoot the three. He's serviceable, which is more than can be said about Daniels, Vaughn, Claxton, Wilks, et al.

[redzero]

On second thought, Mike James or Antonio Daniels is the answer. The Spurs should sign one immediately.

[Das Texan]

Antonio Daniels would make a lot of sense if he has anything at all left in his tank and has been staying in some semblance of basketball shape all year.

[TD 21]

On second thought, Mike James or Antonio Daniels is the answer. The Spurs should sign one immediately.

Make light of the situation all you want, but you tell me a better option available at this point? Given the situation, the Spurs are actually lucky that a guy like James is still available. He's not ideal, but at least he's still an NBA player, unlike the rest of the available veteran options at PG.

[Bartleby]

James? Dude hasn't shot over 40% from the floor in four years. That's rather amazing.

And Shakur is shooting over 40% on threes :wow

[MarHill]

This team needs a veteran PG to get them through probably the remainder of the regular season, or close to it. So forget about Jerrells, Shakur, etc. at this point. Think more along the lines of James, possibly Daniels. They better not even think about bringing back Vaughn, Claxton (I believe he's actually injured, shockingly) or Wilks.

James is clearly the best talent left, but he's shot happy and has an inflated sense of self worth, so he wouldn't really fit in with the Spurs culture per se, although I'm not sure the Spurs can afford to be picky in this case.

Daniels, who knows what type of shape he's in? He hasn't played in the league this year and it's a little late now. Plus he was clearly done last season.

I wonder if the Spurs will give the newly appointed player development coach of the Bulls, Hunter, a call? At his age, I doubt he can still keep up, but he was once one of the best on-ball defensive PG's probably of all-time.

All three of these guys are more combo guards than natural PG's, but the pickings are slim.

Andrew Monaco on Spurs Live just mentioned that the Spurs may look at Curtis Jerrells as a possibility for the 13th roster spot.

What if the Spurs reach out to Jacque Vaughn again? :lol

The SpursTalk forum would meltdown in a hurrry! :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

Make light of the situation all you want, but you tell me a better option available at this point? Given the situation, the Spurs are actually lucky that a guy like James is still available. He's not ideal, but at least he's still an NBA player, unlike the rest of the available veteran options at PG.Are we sure James is still an NBA player?

[TD 21]

Andrew Monaco on Spurs Live just mentioned that the Spurs may look at Curtis Jerrells as a possibility for the 13th roster spot.

What if the Spurs reach out to Jacque Vaughn again? :lol

The SpursTalk forum would meltdown in a hurrry! :lmao

I had no problem with signing Jerrells just to comply with league rules and leaving him in the D-League, but with Parker due to miss likely the majority of, if not the remainder of the regular season, this team needs a proven player. I'm not a fan of James, but given all of the reasons I've previously stated, I think he's the clear cut best option available.

[redzero]

Make light of the situation all you want, but you tell me a better option available at this point? Given the situation, the Spurs are actually lucky that a guy like James is still available. He's not ideal, but at least he's still an NBA player, unlike the rest of the available veteran options at PG.

If you want every first quarter lead to evaporate in fewer than three minutes, you want Daniels running the point.

If you want a point guard who chucks and has no interest in passing the ball ever, you want James.

[Libri]

Paging Jacque Vaughn...

:nope :lol

[TD 21]

Are we sure James is still an NBA player?

I'm fairly certain he is and even if he isn't and he's a fringe player at this point, that still makes him a more viable option than the cadre of veteran retreads available. I wouldn't go the D-League rout in this case.

At least James has kept himself in very good shape (according to him and I believe it, since he's a soon to be 35-year old PG in a contract year, trying to earn one last contract in the league) and has an NBA skill: three point shooting.

[TD 21]

If you want every first quarter lead to evaporate in fewer than three minutes, you want Daniels running the point.

If you want a point guard who chucks and has no interest in passing the ball ever, you want James.

I don't want Daniels running the point, but I think he's at worst the third best PG option available amongst veterans. My preference is James. I'm less than enamored with either, but like I said, it's slim pickings available to say the least. I notice you conveniently didn't answer my question: can you name someone better available?

[ChumpDumper]

I'm fairly certain he is and even if he isn't and he's a fringe player at this point, that still makes him a more viable option that the cadre of veteran retreads available. I wouldn't go the D-League rout in this case. At least James has kept himself in very good shape (according to himself and I believe it, since he's a soon to be 35-year old PG in a contract year, trying to earn one last contract in the league) and has an NBA skill: three point shooting.I think he stinks on ice. Otherwise he would have played more games the past two seasons.

This team isn't winning a championship with James replacing Parker, so why not sign someone we could keep cheap next season?

[G-Dawgg]

Mason will do.. and it will satisfy he wishes for more minutes....

[redzero]

I don't want Daniels running the point, but I think he's at worst the third best PG option available amongst veterans. My preference is James. I'm less than enamored with either, but like I said, it's slim pickings available to say the least. I notice you conveniently didn't answer my question: can you name someone better available?

Not having either of them is the best option. They will hurt your team more than they will help.

[ElNono]

Mason will do.. and it will satisfy he wishes for more minutes....

Hmm, no, he won't do. But I'm sure Pop will try anyways.

[TD 21]

I think he stinks on ice. Otherwise he would have played more than 12 games the past two seasons.

This team isn't winning a championship with James replacing Parker, so why not sign someone we could keep cheap next season?

The Wizards were deep at PG this season: Arenas, Foye, Boykins.

This isn't about looking towards next season with this signing. This is about getting the best player available to help get the team through the next month. James is it. Do you have any idea what Jerrells or Shakur will bring? I don't. They might be wide eyed playing in the NBA for the first time or have no obvious, instantaneously translatable skill at this level; James does. The Spurs need someone proven.


Not having either of them is the best option. They will hurt your team more than they will help.

Once again, you didn't answer the question.

[ChumpDumper]

The Wizards were deep at PG this season: Arenas, Foye, Boykins.

This isn't about looking towards next season with this signing. This is about getting the best player available to help get the team through the next month. James is it. Do you have any idea what Jerrells or Shakur will bring?Well, yes. That's the reason I brought them up. I watched them play a lot more than James this season.
I don't. They might be wide eyed playing in the NBA for the first time or have no obvious, instantaneously translatable skill at this level; James does.How do you know if you have never watched them play?


The Spurs need someone proven.For what? A Parkerless championship run?

[redzero]

Once again, you didn't answer the question.

I'm confused: are you saying that the Spurs should pick up a point guard who doesn't help the team just because there's no one else available?

If that's the case, no, I can't name anyone else, and yes, the Spurs should pick up Daniels or James for the sake of it.

[ElNono]

AD would work because we only need him to bring the ball up and know how to play in our defensive system. It would allow our guards play their positions.

[kjhip1]

http://www.checkoutmycards.com/CardImages/Cards/013/764/07F.jpg

[TD 21]

Well, yes. I watched them play a lot more than James this season.How do you know if you have never watched them play?

For what? A Parkerless championship run?

Who said I didn't watch them play? Resorting to making things up now? You said if James were any good, he'd have played more, but the reality is the Wizards were deep at PG. Look, I'm not building up James as some great player, I just can't find a better option available.

Parker will be back probably before the playoffs. Realistically, is this team winning a championship? No. But that doesn't mean they shouldn't try. It's not like they couldn't bring in Jerrells or Shakur as the third PG next season. You act as if these guys are future stars and they need to be secured and brought into the program now. At best, they'll be fringe NBA players.


I'm confused: are you saying that the Spurs should pick up a point guard who doesn't help the team just because there's no one else available?

If that's the case, no, I can't name anyone else, and yes, the Spurs should pick up Daniels or James for the sake of it.

James might be able to help a little. The Spurs need a thirteenth roster player to comply with league rules by March 15th. They were already thin at PG and now they're even thinner, so why wouldn't they bring in a PG?

My point exactly.

[redzero]

Oh, well if you're talking about filling a roster spot, then the best available is irrelevant. James is a chucker with no interest in playing team ball.

[ChumpDumper]

Who said I didn't watch them play? Resorting to making things up now?So how many times have you watched Shakur and Jerrells play this season? Give me a number. What are their strengths and weaknesses?


You said if James were any good, he'd have played more, but the reality is the Wizards were deep at PG. Look, I'm not building up James as some great player, I just can't find a better option available.I think he's done and don't want to waste time on him.


Parker will be back probably before the playoffs. Realistically, is this team winning a championship? No. But that doesn't mean they shouldn't try.They can try with a young player. Chances are Mason will play the point before anyone mentioned.
It's not like they couldn't bring in Jerrells or Shakur as the third PG next season.Why not now?


You act as if these guys are future stars and they need to be secured and brought into the program now. At best, they'll be fringe NBA players.Now you are making things up. I said quite clearly they could be bench/reserve point guards and it's fine to find one to lock in early for next season with a nonguaranteed deal.

[ElNono]

Manu is gonna play point, and that's ok. But Mason can't run a pick and roll and is a dribbling machine. Hill also has problem running the pick and roll and he simply plays better at the two.
Ideally we need a PG that can play the P&R effectively. Not sure who's out there that can fill that role.

[Ditty]

mike james gives spurs another scorer

[TD 21]

Oh, well if you're talking about filling a roster spot, then the best available is irrelevant. James is a chucker with no interest in playing team ball.

With this team's lack of depth at PG and the amount of games they have this month, whoever they bring in will have to be able to play some minutes. Maybe not every game, but definitely some, which is why I'm advocating bringing in a veteran.

This "building towards the future" notion is nonsense in this case. Are Jerrells or Shakur really going to be a part of the future? And even if they are, they'll more than likely be buried deep on the bench. If by some chance they were in the rotation, they're not good enough to alter the landscape of this team's future. This is about trying to win now.

[ohmwrecker]

This is a dumb argument. There is no way Pop would play Jerrells or Shakur and neither one has a chance to make the squad next year.
Mike James isn't ideal, but at least he could run the offense for 10-15 min. a game and hold TP's spot. The Spurs just need to stop the bleeding, not a transfusion.

[TheProfessor]

What's Dontell Jefferson up to? Didn't Larry Brown like him?

[ChumpDumper]

Mine were just suggestions for those wondering about potential D-League call ups.

You guys need to calm down about signing a player who is going to sit and watch Hill, Manu and Mason play the point.

James sucks. He could certainly be signed, but he also certainly sucks.

[ChumpDumper]

What's Dontell Jefferson up to? Didn't Larry Brown like him?I think he is injured.

[TD 21]

So how many times have you watched Shakur and Jerrells play this season? Give me a number. What are their strengths and weaknesses?

I think he's done and don't want to waste time on him.

They can try with a young player. Chances are Mason will play the point before anyone mentioned. Why not now?

Now you are making things up. I said quite clearly they could be bench/reserve point guards and it's fine to find one to lock in early for next season with a nonguaranteed deal.

I misread what you said. I thought you were referring to the Wizards, then went back and realized you were referring to Jerrells and Shakur.

I'd rather go with a veteran and I assume the Spurs will as well. They play a lot of games this month against a lot of good teams and I just can't imagine they'd feel confident playing guys like Jerrells or Shakur. I don't want to "see if they can be NBA players", I want to at least attempt to win.

We're not talking about a 30 mpg job here, but I assume at least in some games we're looking at 10-15 mpg and some of these will come in back to backs when the team is tired and/or against quality opposition. Why would anyone feel confident with an unproven (at this level) player being put in that position? Especially at the PG position. Even if they're out there with Ginobili and he's playing de facto PG.

[ElNono]

The thing is, if one of Manu, Hill or Mason gets hurt, now that Fin is gone you just don't have enough talent either at PG or at the two. That's why I'm pretty sure that since they need to fill a spot anyways, it's probably going to be a backup PG

[Bartleby]

http://www.checkoutmycards.com/CardImages/Cards/013/764/07F.jpg

Sweet Pea!

[ChumpDumper]

I misread what you said. I thought you were referring to the Wizards, then went back and realized you were referring to Jerrells and Shakur.

I'd rather go with a veteran and I assume the Spurs will as well. They play a lot of games this month against a lot of good teams and I just can't imagine they'd feel confident playing guys like Jerrells or Shakur. I don't want to "see if they can be NBA players", I want to at least attempt to win.I think signing jump shooters who have no legs left is basically waving a white flag.

[TD 21]

I think signing jump shooters who have no legs left is basically waving a white flag.

I think signing some unproven player who's more than likely never going to be a full fledged NBA player is definitely waving a white flag.

[ChumpDumper]

I think signing some unproven player who's more than likely never going to be a full fledged NBA player is definitely waving a white flag.I will ask you again -- how many times have you seen Jerrells and Shakur play this season?

[dbestpro]

Slim pickins for sure. Best to try and get a vet with some experience with Spurs. Daniels, Claxton and Vaughn are the only ones to fit the mode. We don't need another shooter, but rather a play maker where a guy like Brevin Knight might work.

[ChumpDumper]

seriously ANOTHER derailed Chump Dumpster thread in a WEEK?The only one derailing it is you when you make it about me, cupcake.

We're talking about point guards the Spurs could sign. Completely on topic. It's in the thread title if you thought to read it.

[ElNono]

Slim pickins for sure. Best to try and get a vet with some experience with Spurs. Daniels, Claxton and Vaughn are the only ones to fit the mode. We don't need another shooter, but rather a play maker where a guy like Brevin Knight might work.

Did Speedy retire?

[TD 21]

I will ask you again -- how many times have you seen Jerrells and Shakur play this season?

If they were good enough, they'd already be playing in the NBA. Maybe either is capable of being on an NBA teams roster, but I seriously doubt either ever becomes a full fledged (meaning in the league, not on 10 days) NBA player in their career. You act like one of these two could be a vital part of the future. Jerrells is already learning the system with the Toros, so that reason goes out the window. I'm fine with taking a flier on one of these types next season, but for now the Spurs need a proven player.

[Flux451]

I am down for Vaughn. Sad as it sounds. But I guess I really don't know who is avail.

[ChumpDumper]

If they were good enough, they'd already be playing in the NBA. Maybe either is capable of being on an NBA teams roster, but I seriously doubt either ever becomes a full fledged (meaning in the league, not on 10 days) NBA player in their career. You act like one of these two could be a vital part of the future. Jerrells is already learning the system with the Toros, so that reason goes out the window. I'm fine with taking a flier on one of these types next season, but for now the Spurs need a proven player.You didn't answer the question:
I will ask you again -- how many times have you seen Jerrells and Shakur play this season?

[TheProfessor]

I think signing some unproven player who's more than likely never going to be a full fledged NBA player is definitely waving a white flag.
Are you saying James or Daniels are NBA players at this point? They've got nothing left. If Manu is going to operate as the distributor, I'd rather have someone who can semi-competently guard the PG position alongside him.

[ChumpDumper]

Are you saying James or Daniels are NBA players at this point? They've got nothing left. If Manu is going to operate as the distributor, I'd rather have someone who can semi-competently guard the PG position alongside him.That's the main reason I would give an edge to Shakur over Jerrells if they choose that route -- and probably Dontell Jefferson if he was healthy.

[TD 21]

You didn't answer the question:

You don't get it: I don't give a fuck what either is doing in the D-League. I don't care if they're averaging 50/20/20, it makes no difference. This team needs a veteran who knows what the fuck he's doing at this level, not some guy who's learning on the job.


Are you saying James or Daniels are NBA players at this point? They've got nothing left. If Manu is going to operate as the distributor, I'd rather have someone who can semi-competently guard the PG position alongside him.

No, I'm saying this isn't risk taking time. This team needs a body that can, but more importantly, Pop will play right now. I can't imagine him playing Jerrells or Shakur, so even if they were better than James currently, what's the point? They should sign James and the games he does play, pair him with Ginobili, let him assist him with the ball handling duties, then in the half court be a spot up three point shooter.

[ChumpDumper]

You don't get it: I don't give a fuck what either is doing in the D-League. I don't care if they're averaging 50/20/20, it makes no difference. This team needs a veteran who knows what the fuck he's doing at this level, not some guy who's learning on the job.All you had to say is you haven't seen them play this season. It's no disgrace.


No, I'm saying this isn't risk taking time. This team needs a body that can, but more importantly, Pop will play right now. I can't imagine him playing Jerrells or Shakur, so even if they were better than James currently, what's the point?You can't imagine their playing because you've never seen them play.


They should sign James and the games he does play, pair him with Ginobili, let him assist him with the ball handling duties, then in the half court be a spot up three point shooter.That's fine. It's just as much of a losing proposition as any. If were going to lose anyway, let's lose old and slow!

[TheProfessor]

You don't get it: I don't give a fuck what either is doing in the D-League. I don't care if they're averaging 50/20/20, it makes no difference. This team needs a veteran who knows what the fuck he's doing at this level, not some guy who's learning on the job.



No, I'm saying this isn't risk taking time. This team needs a body that can, but more importantly, Pop will play right now. I can't imagine him playing Jerrells or Shakur, so even if they were better than James currently, what's the point? They should sign James and the games he does play, pair him with Ginobili, let him assist him with the ball handling duties, then in the half court be a spot up three point shooter.
I really don't see how giving Mike James playing time is that much better, or that Pop would put him anywhere but firmly at the end of the bench.

[ChumpDumper]

I really don't see how giving Mike James playing time is that much better, or that Pop would put him anywhere but firmly at the end of the bench.Yeah, if anyone's just going to be out there shooting threes while Manu handles the ball, it will be Mason.

[TD 21]

Until you tell him that you've never seen the d league guys this nut wont stop the back and fourth no matter how valid your points are... You stepped into a Land Mind of psychosis ...

This is hilarious.


All you had to say is you haven't seen them play this season. It's no disgrace.

You can't imagine their playing because you've never seen them play.

That's fine. It's just as much of a losing proposition as any. If were going to lose anyway, let's lose old and slow!

No, but what is a disgrace is you acting holier than thou over the fact that you're an avid D-League follower. There's no shame in watching the games, but bragging about it? Wow.

Given the situation (I'm not repeating it all, you know it and if you don't, re-read my posts), I'd be stunned if Pop played either. This is a coach who inherently favors veterans over young players to begin with. You think in this situation he's playing a young player over a veteran? I don't see it.

Why? Because you're obsessed with the D-League? Get over it. James is the best veteran option available and the situation clearly calls for a veteran. Who gives a fuck what his birth date says? We're talking about the minimum for the remainder of the season and a 10-15 mpg role say, one out of every two games.

[ss1986v2]

james wouldnt see minute one on the floor. pop would roll with mason before james ever saw the floor.

[TheProfessor]

This is hilarious.



No, but what is a disgrace is you acting holier than thou over the fact that you're an avid D-League follower. There's no shame in watching the games, but bragging about it? Wow.

Given the situation (I'm not repeating it all, you know it and if you don't, re-read my posts), I'd be stunned if Pop played either. This is a coach who inherently favors veterans over young players to begin with. You think in this situation he's playing a young player over a veteran? I don't see it.

Why? Because you're obsessed with the D-League? Get over it. James is the best veteran option available and the situation clearly calls for a veteran. Who gives a fuck what his birth date says? We're talking about the minimum for the remainder of the season and a 10-15 mpg role say, one out of every two games.
I don't think you have to be obsessed with the D-League to know that Mike James isn't any kind of option for this team. He can't defend, he can't distribute, he can't shoot (anymore). Plenty of other teams have made call-ups from the D-League, this isn't exactly a far-out suggestion, regardless of who makes it. Whoever gets brought up will be strictly insurance anyway, so who cares if Pop isn't playing them. Still better than the rotting corpse of Mike James.

[ChumpDumper]

This is hilarious.Eh. he always wants to make threads about me.


No, but what is a disgrace is you acting holier than thou over the fact that you're an avid D-League follower. There's no shame in watching the games, but bragging about it? Wow.Hey, I've seen these guys play. You haven't. You simply don't know anything about these guys, but you are posting like you do.


Given the situation (I'm not repeating it all, you know it and if you don't, re-read my posts), I'd be stunned if Pop played either. This is a coach who inherently favors veterans over young players to begin with. You think in this situation he's playing a young player over a veteran? I don't see it.I said the same thing genius -- I also said he won't play a guy like James over Mason either. That's precisely why I don't want some old guy with no legs and no future with the team.


Why? Because you're obsessed with the D-League? Get over it. James is the best veteran option available and the situation clearly calls for a veteran.Not at all. I merely stated that there are options other than Mike James. Someone asked me who could be called up. Sorry I had an opinion.


Who gives a fuck what his birth date says? We're talking about the minimum for the remainder of the season and a 10-15 mpg role say, one out of every two games.We're talking about a guy who will practice with the team and watch Mason play.

[ChumpDumper]

I don't think you have to be obsessed with the D-League to know that Mike James isn't any kind of option for this team. He can't defend, he can't distribute, he can't shoot (anymore). Plenty of other teams have made call-ups from the D-League, this isn't exactly a far-out suggestion, regardless of who makes it. Whoever gets brought up will be strictly insurance anyway, so who cares if Pop isn't playing them. Still better than the rotting corpse of Mike James.Oh, James is definitely an option, but our history of signing over the hill jump shooting guards who can't jump anymore is not good. I'm not sure why anyone would be excited to do the same thing again.

[TD 21]

I don't think you have to be obsessed with the D-League to know that Mike James isn't any kind of option for this team. He can't defend, he can't distribute, he can't shoot (anymore). Plenty of other teams have made call-ups from the D-League, this isn't exactly a far-out suggestion, regardless of who makes it. Whoever gets brought up will be strictly insurance anyway, so who cares if Pop isn't playing them. Still better than the rotting corpse of Mike James.

Yeah, plenty of teams who don't have aspirations of at least making a deep playoff run this season. This isn't the Rockets or the Kings.

Not just insurance. There's too many games up coming and this team doesn't have a bunch of early 20's athletic players who can play 40 mpg for a month. In some of these games, the Spurs are going to need a PG to play 10-15 mpg.



Eh. he always wants to make threads about me.

Hey, I've seen these guys play. You haven't. You simply don't know anything about these guys, but you are posting like you do.

I said the same thing genius -- I also said he won't play a guy like James over Mason either. That's precisely why I don't want some old guy with no legs and no future with the team.

Not at all. I merely stated that there are options other than Mike James. Someone asked me who could be called up. Sorry I had an opinion.

We're talking about a guy who will practice with the team and watch Mason play.

No, I'm posting about what they are and what they are are unproven rookies, no matter what you think of them.

I've answered the minutes thing a million times. They'll come at least a few games in these up coming weeks where the Spurs need another PG and when they do, I don't see Pop trusting some rookie from the D-League. Look at tonight, for example. Mason has clearly been out of the rotation lately, but tonight, second game of a back to back, he played (even before Parker went down). Why? Because this team needed 10 guys to get through this game. Understand the situation? Sometimes, it will be Hairston, other times, they'll need more depth at PG.

[ChumpDumper]

No, I'm posting about what they are and what they are are unproven rookies, no matter what you think of them.Yep, and you don't know anything about them because you've never seen them play.


I've answered the minutes thing a million times. They'll come at least a few games in these up coming weeks where the Spurs need another PG and when they do, I don't see Pop trusting some rookie from the D-League. Look at tonight, for example. Mason has clearly been out of the rotation lately, but tonight, second game of a back to back, he played (even before Parker went down). Why? Because this team needed 10 guys to get through this game. Understand the situation? Sometimes, it will be Hairston, other times, they'll need more depth at PG.Yeah, and they'll use Mason. Not James. Understand the situation?

Sign James. It's not going to make any difference.

[dbestpro]

Okay, let's get crazy. We talked about him last year. How about Marbury?

[TD 21]

Yep, and you don't know anything about them because you've never seen them play.

Yeah, and they'll use Mason. Not James. Understand the situation?

You have serious mental problems. Who brags about watching the D-League? You STILL don't get it: I don't care about them. They're unproven, James is proven, this situation calls for someone proven. If he no longer has it and can't contribute in those games where he's needed for 10-15 mpg, so be it. I'd rather go to him in this situation than take a flier on some rookie.

[ChumpDumper]

You have serious mental problems. Who brags about watching the D-League? You STILL don't get it: I don't care about them.Right, you've never seen them. We understand. No need to keep repeating that.


They're unproven, James is proven, this situation calls for someone proven. If he no longer has it and can't contribute in those games where he's needed for 10-15 mpg, so be it. I'd rather go to him in this situation than take a flier on some rookie.James = championship. I get it.

I think 15mpg of James will make our transition D even more of a joke than it is now.

[gospursgojas]

Leaving the forum for a few hours and coming back to find yet another thread full of chump is getting annoying

[TD 21]

Right, you've never seen them. We understand. No need to keep repeating that.

James = championship. I get it.

Who's we? You mean YOU? I didn't know you account for more than one person. Who cares what they do in the D-League, the question is how will they react playing in the stretch drive of a playoff team, with aspirations of making a deep run?

Yeah, because that's exactly what I said, genius. What I said was this situation calls for a veteran and it does. This is about trying to win now. It's not like Shakur or Jerrells = championship and they sure as hell don't = future. Even if they stay on as the third PG next season, they're dime a dozen, easily replaceable players.

10-15 mpg the odd game, not 15 mpg every game.

[Mel_13]

Did Speedy retire?

Speedy was released by the Warriors last month, but he's only played in 2 games for a total of 15 minutes in the last three seasons. I think it's safe to safe that Speedy is not an option.

As to the debate in this thread, the veteran options of AD, JV, and Mike James are all at least 35 years old and James is the only one who has played (4 games/46 minutes) this season. Since James has been with the Wizards until his recent release, we can at least assume he is close to being in game shape.

When you look at the perimeter players on the Spurs before the TP injury, you had TP, Hill, Manu, Bogans, and RJ getting almost all the minutes with Mason getting spot duty and some DNP-CDs. With Tony out, Mason moves into the rotation.

The PG minutes will now be shared by George, Manu, and Mason. Now, without starting a useless debate, just look at that list and decide who is the WORST PG option among those three. It doesn't matter which one. Now, how likely is it that any of the veteran options would be any better than the worst current option?

I'd say that James is the best veteran option, but that he's not any better than what the Spurs already have. So, IMO, we're looking for someone to play very limited minutes and most of those in garbage time. In this view, the new PG is primarily insurance against a future injury.

So, on to Dleague options like Jerrells and Shakur. Based strictly on resume, Shakur seems the better choice. Jerrells' only pro experience is with the Toros. Shakur has better size, better numbers, and has two years of experience with Eurocup and Euroleague level teams (he played with Splitter last season). One vote for Shakur.

[ChumpDumper]

Who's we? You mean YOU? I didn't know you account for more than one person.I think it's safe to say other people can tell you haven't seen these guys play. I don't know why you keep bringing it up.


Who cares what they do in the D-League, the question is how will they react playing in the stretch drive of a playoff team, with aspirations of making a deep run?It's a great time to find out.


Yeah, because that's exactly what I said, genius. What I said was this situation calls for a veteran and it does. This is about trying to win now.So you do think James = championship.


It's not like Shakur or Jerrells = championshipThe chances for a championship don't go up if James is signed instead, so why bother?


and even if either were the third PG next season, who cares? They'll almost assuredly never be a part of the future. They're dime a dozen, easily replaceable pieces.Good, young point guards aren't terribly easy to find. James was pretty easily replaced this season.

[TheProfessor]

Speedy was released by the Warriors last month, but he's only played in 2 games for a total of 15 minutes in the last three seasons. I think it's safe to safe that Speedy is not an option.

As to the debate in this thread, the veteran options of AD, JV, and Mike James are all at least 35 years old and James is the only one who has played (4 games/46 minutes) this season. Since James has been with the Wizards until his recent release, we can at least assume he is close to being in game shape.

When you look at the perimeter players on the Spurs before the TP injury, you had TP, Hill, Manu, Bogans, and RJ getting almost all the minutes with Mason getting spot duty and some DNP-CDs. With Tony out, Mason moves into the rotation.

The PG minutes will now be shared by George, Manu, and Mason. Now, without starting a useless debate, just look at that list and decide who is the WORST PG option among those three. It doesn't matter which one. Now, how likely is it that any of the veteran options would be any better than the worst current option?

I'd say that James is the best veteran option, but that he's not any better than what the Spurs already have. So, IMO, we're looking for someone to play very limited minutes and most of those in garbage time. In this view, the new PG is primarily insurance against a future injury.

So, on to Dleague options like Jerrells and Shakur. Based strictly on resume, Shakur seems the better choice. Jerrells' only pro experience is with the Toros. Shakur has better size, better numbers, and has two years of experience with Eurocup and Euroleague level teams (he played with Splitter last season). One vote for Shakur.
+1, good breakdown.

[Dingle Barry]

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[spurtech09]

Iverson!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[blkroadrunners]

Blake Ahearn!!

[Flux451]

Mike James?

[ChumpDumper]

Blake Ahearn!!lol he keeps requesting trades to find a team where he won't be beat out for the point guard spot. On his third team this season.

[ace3g]

Alston Makes Himself Unavailable To Heat

http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/65183/20100307/alston_makes_himself_unavailable_to_heat/

too bad Alston isn't available, could have helped the Spurs like he helped the Magic last season

[iManu]

I agree. Iverson. We should sign him for a 10 day.

[TDMVPDPOY]

mike james?

[Spursfan 87]

AD has not play all year and is probably out of shape.

Jerrels?, He's the better choice but Pop hates young players and dont trust them. So the logical choice is Mike James. He's not that bad, a tough minded veteran with championship experience.So my vote goes to Mike James

[lefty]

That injury is good news for GH3's development

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Alston say he want out of Miami. Very good choice. Also I suggest Darius Washington. He is have GREAT season so far in Turkey. He is really play good this year and he is ready for NBA now.

Shakur is a joke. He has been cut for poor play in every team he ever sign with in Europe and even then his role was just 3rd string point guard and he is cut for not be even able to handle such role. He is not good enough for Eurocup/Greece/Spain/Euroleague because he gets cut always. He is only D-League level player and has no place in Spurs.

Washington and Alston is good choices. Alston want from Heat and they don't want him so Spurs can get him. I think also since after next week Washinton's team is out of Eurocup that Spurs can purchase him also for a buyout.

[raspsa]

Stephon Marbury would jump at the opportunity

[ChumpDumper]

Alston say he want out of Miami. Very good choice. Also I suggest Darius Washington. He is have GREAT season so far in Turkey. He is really play good this year and he is ready for NBA now.

Shakur is a joke. He has been cut for poor play in every team he ever sign with in Europe and even then his role was just 3rd string point guard and he is cut for not be even able to handle such role. He is not good enough for Eurocup/Greece/Spain/Euroleague because he gets cut always. He is only D-League level player and has no place in Spurs.

Washington and Alston is good choices. Alston want from Heat and they don't want him so Spurs can get him. I think also since after next week Washinton's team is out of Eurocup that Spurs can purchase him also for a buyout.Alston couldn't play in the playoffs. No reason to sign him.

[ChumpDumper]

And there is no chance the Spurs pay a buyout for Darius Washington.

[raspsa]

Maybe they can lure Bobby Jackson out of retirement.

[benefactor]

Kbp?

[Chieflion]

KBP is back, sons.

Either way, the 13th man, or the 3rd PG, is most likely just going to ride the pine and most likely not be on the team next year barring any miracle.

[Bruno]

What is worrisome with Antonio Daniels is that he worked out with Cleveland and they decided not to sign him to go after a D-League player (Cedric Jackson). Maybe he has nothing left in the tank.

The vet PG pool is quite weak. As some have said, maybe the best Spurs can do is to go with Hill/Maosn/Ginobili at PG and sign a young PG with an eye on next year.

[wildbill2u]

Alston say he want out of Miami. Very good choice. Also I suggest Darius Washington. He is have GREAT season so far in Turkey. He is really play good this year and he is ready for NBA now.

Shakur is a joke. He has been cut for poor play in every team he ever sign with in Europe and even then his role was just 3rd string point guard and he is cut for not be even able to handle such role. He is not good enough for Eurocup/Greece/Spain/Euroleague because he gets cut always. He is only D-League level player and has no place in Spurs.

Washington and Alston is good choices. Alston want from Heat and they don't want him so Spurs can get him. I think also since after next week Washinton's team is out of Eurocup that Spurs can purchase him also for a buyout.

I can't believe Im saying this but I've missed your wild and wacky comments. What about your boy Spanoulis? Is he contractually unavailable? Might be a time to bring him in and see what he's got.

[ShoogarBear]

Parker gets hurt and KBP is back?

Coincidence? I think not.

[HarlemHeat37]

None of the options the Spurs are looking at are going to play..all the "veteran" PGs are horrible at this point and none of the young PGs are good enough to play on an NBA roster right now..the Spurs will sign a PG for insurance purposes in case there's ANOTHER injury and just because they have to sign a 13th player..

It's going to be Manu, Hill and Mason..while Manu is the only one of the 3 with any passing skills, those 3 are much better options than any potential acquisition at this time..

[TheProfessor]

Is there anyone called up from D-League on a 10-day contract that might be cut soon?

[Mel_13]

Is there anyone called up from D-League on a 10-day contract that might be cut soon?

http://www.nba.com/dleague/callups.html

[spursncowboys]

only jims restaurant would want ad back.

[mogrovejo]

Screw Shakur or Antonio Daniels. Coby Karl or guys who at least play good defense like Garret Temple and Cedric Jackson are better than Shakur. I'd rather wait for Conroy or call-up a guy who already know the Spurs, like Farmer.

Think out of the box:call-up Trey Johnson and let him play the PG position. Most talented playmaker/floor-general in the D-League by far.

[yavozerb]

What about speedy claxton? Last I heard he was cut, not sure if he is even healthy or not..anybody know much about his status?

[Mel_13]

What about speedy claxton? Last I heard he was cut, not sure if he is even healthy or not..anybody know much about his status?

Speedy's played 15 minutes total in the last three seasons, none this year. He's done.

[ohmwrecker]

It seems that most reasonable posters are in agreement that whoever the Spurs decide to sign will probably get very little, if any, PT. However, there is always the possibility, if the Spurs suffer another injury, that the 13th man might have to play a little. If this is the case, I don't see the point in calling up a d-leaguer who the Spurs would not be interested in long term. I think a veteran is going to get the call because insurance wise, Pop would be more comfortable with someone with experience.
I don't think Mike James is as bad as everyone is making him out to be. The only thing that concerns me about him is rust. He just hasn't logged a lot of minutes the last couple of seasons.
Just out of curiosity, as far as d-leaguers go, what's going on with Dontell Jefferson? I didn't see anyone mention him.

[mogrovejo]

Dontell Jefferson is injured. Good idea though. Another possible D-League call-up: Gabe Pruitt - 2 years of experience with the Celtics, very good defender (word is that he has a drinking problem, which may be a bit of a problem).

If it's a DLeague PG it's probably going to be Jerrells or Blake Ahearn though.

[The Truth #6]

Parker's injury doesn't change the profile of our 13th man in my opinion. Just sign whatever player, at any position, that has the best chance of making the team next year.

Let the player get used to Pop and the system.

There's no way Pop is playing a D league point guard more than 5 seconds at a time. Pop might play a veteran if he liked them but we have no idea yet if Pop has an unexplained and unjustified interest in Mike James or someone else like that.

Mason is now the backup, and hopefully, Malik fills in for Mason's 7 minutes a game, if not more.

I don't see what the big fuss is about. Pop is more likely to shorten the rotation then expand it at this point anyway.

[ChumpDumper]

Screw Shakur or Antonio Daniels. Coby Karl or guys who at least play good defense like Garret Temple and Cedric Jackson are better than Shakur. I'd rather wait for Conroy or call-up a guy who already know the Spurs, like Farmer.I mentioned Shakur over Jerrells mainly because of his defense. Temple is still quite inconsistent at running the point. Shakur is raw, but he has potential and performed well even when Tulsa had three Thunder assignees playing alongside him.


Think out of the box:call-up Trey Johnson and let him play the PG position. Most talented playmaker/floor-general in the D-League by far.I don't think anyone mentioned is going to get any real minutes, but Johnson would be fine to try out too. I'm not sold on his defending quicker guards though. I forgot he was back. And I'd say Curtis Stinson is the best playmaker in the D-League since he has a whole season from which to judge, but he can't shoot at all.

[Harry Callahan]

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Wow! Now those were some dark days for SAS. Post Gervin, Gilmore (I think) with Johnny Moore and Alvin Robertson not getting a chance to make it work. Bob Bass about to draft Johnny Dawkins in a few months.

I don't miss those days.

A $5 ticket was one good thing.

[Ryvin1]

I think the Spurs go for the cheapest solution possible. The net result from the teams overall performance with any of the available vets or d-league are project-able to be similar, but the amount paid from a d-league call up versus a vet min signing might be over a million dollars with luxury tax considerations taken. I'm more in favor of a D-League call up, and consider Chump's input pretty highly, thanks for the player suggestions! I'd bet money it will be Jerrells or Shakur.

[The Truth #6]

Wow! Now those were some dark days for SAS. Post Gervin, Gilmore (I think) with Johnny Moore and Alvin Robertson not getting a chance to make it work. Bob Bass about to draft Johnny Dawkins in a few months.

I don't miss those days.

A $5 ticket was one good thing.

I believe this was the 92 season, give or take a year. At the time it looked more promising then now, sad to say.

[The Truth #6]

Dude your talking 1984-1985 season when that picture was taken Dawkings and Robertson were traded after the 88-89 season to Philadelphia and Milwaukee for Mo Cheeks and Terry Cummings respectively.

Imagine that a Spurs team so loaded with YOUNG talent they were TRADING for veterans..

Looked like Sleepy Floyd to me. If not, my bad.

Alvin was #21 so I don't think he and Dawkins both could have played with the same number. Also, Dawkins was left handed, though I suppose that by itself doesn't prove things either way.

[gospursgojas]

That is sleepy floyd....he came back in 92 93 94 something like that

[Obstructed_View]

If Mahinmi and Hairston aren't capable of contributing, I'm not sure how any available point guard is going to be able to.

[The Truth #6]

If Mahinmi and Hairston aren't capable of contributing, I'm not sure how any available point guard is going to be able to.

Because of the whims of Coach Pop? Ha.

[Phenomanul]

What's Darius Washington up to these days?

[ChumpDumper]

What's Darius Washington up to these days?Ballin' in Turkey.

[timtonymanu]

it sucks how bad the free agent market is this time of the season when mike james is the best option.

[chazley]

Antonio Daniels is done. He plays up at Lifetime on 281/1604 all the time on some random league team, saw him get posterized a few weeks ago.

[mountainballer]

do we really think guys from the D league, who couldn't get a call up all season, would help us at this point?
there are just no good PGs available. Manu will do the job much better than any of those players could. and it will be easier to find a somehow useful SG, to eventually compensate for Manu's minutes at the point. d-league as well as free agency. (McCants, Hughes, Almond).
if it comes to the question, whether the Spurs have enough quick players to defend the other teams PGs, then the answer can't be one of the mentioned veterans (Daniels, James) anyhow. in this case McCants would be the best option and to play him alongside Manu, who does the playmaking on offense and both switch position on defense.

[mogrovejo]

do we really think guys from the D league, who couldn't get a call up all season, would help us at this point?
there are just no good PGs available. Manu will do the job much better than any of those players could. and it will be easier to find a somehow useful SG, to eventually compensate for Manu's minutes at the point. d-league as well as free agency. (McCants, Hughes, Almond).
if it comes to the question, whether the Spurs have enough quick players to defend the other teams PGs, then the answer can't be one of the mentioned veterans (Daniels, James) anyhow. in this case McCants would be the best option and to play him alongside Manu, who does the playmaking on offense and both switch position on defense.

Why do you think McCants is a better option than guys from the D-League?

(and I actually like McCants potential, but he hasn't played competitive basketball in almost a year while the D-Leaguers at least are in shape. Plus, if I wanted someone to defend PGs and make a couple of shots in limited minutes, I'd pick 10 D-League players before McCants)

[mogrovejo]

I mentioned Shakur over Jerrells mainly because of his defense. Temple is still quite inconsistent at running the point. Shakur is raw, but he has potential and performed well even when Tulsa had three Thunder assignees playing alongside him.

I don't think anyone mentioned is going to get any real minutes, but Johnson would be fine to try out too. I'm not sold on his defending quicker guards though. I forgot he was back. And I'd say Curtis Stinson is the best playmaker in the D-League since he has a whole season from which to judge, but he can't shoot at all.

I think Shakur's potential is limited by his lack of decision making/purpose. He's good making plays off ISOs and off the pick'n'roll, but I think he's too mistaken prone to ever be the primary ball-handler, even as a change of page guard off the bench, for a NBA team + he will struggle to transfer his scoring skills at the rim at a higher level. Temple at least have potential as a big time perimeter stopper and I liked his composure when I saw him playing even for the Rockets.

Yeah, Stinson may be a better playmaker for now, but he's too flawed.

I agree about the minutes, but it only takes a small injury and 2 quick fouls to have this guy on the floor for some time.

[mountainballer]

Why do you think McCants is a better option than guys from the D-League?

(and I actually like McCants potential, but he hasn't played competitive basketball in almost a year while the D-Leaguers at least are in shape. Plus, if I wanted someone to defend PGs and make a couple of shots in limited minutes, I'd pick 10 D-League players before McCants)

I know that Almond is in the D league. that's why I wrote d-league as well as free agency. I was talking about PGs from the d-league. and that a decent SG will be easier to find at this point than a PG. and that I would play Manu at PG and hire one of the available SGs. and considering that McCants is (was?) a pretty decent defender for quick PGs, I thought it could be an interesting option to play him alongside Manu at SG. of course I can't tell about his shape but I assume the Spurs will invite him for a workout before they think about signing him. usually a 25 years old player doesn't lose shape as fast as someone who is 35.

[texwheel]

With only 22 games left, it would be hard for any new guy to learn even the present dumbed-down playbook. If, heaven forbid we lost another of Manu, Hill, or Mason, we would need someone off the end of the bench to come in. The only guy out there now that I think could do that would be (whispering) J.V. (Now I'll go hide!)

[Phenomanul]

Ballin' in Turkey.

Thanks...

What about Marcus Williams.... wasn't he playing point forward with the Toros? He knows the Spurs playbook right?

[Bartleby]

Thanks...

What about Marcus Williams.... wasn't he playing point forward with the Toros? He knows the Spurs playbook right?

Playing for the Zhejiang Wanma Cyclones.

[Chomag]

Thanks...

What about Marcus Williams.... wasn't he playing point forward with the Toros? He knows the Spurs playbook right?

I think he is playing in China right now.

[spurtech09]

what ever happened to stephon marbury.......I heard Miami might release rafer alston

[nkdlunch]

AI anyone?

[mogrovejo]

I know that Almond is in the D league. that's why I wrote d-league as well as free agency. I was talking about PGs from the d-league. and that a decent SG will be easier to find at this point than a PG. and that I would play Manu at PG and hire one of the available SGs. and considering that McCants is (was?) a pretty decent defender for quick PGs, I thought it could be an interesting option to play him alongside Manu at SG. of course I can't tell about his shape but I assume the Spurs will invite him for a workout before they think about signing him. usually a 25 years old player doesn't lose shape as fast as someone who is 35.

Most D-League PG are actually combo guards - Shakur, Karl, Anderson, Temple, Pruit, Jefferson, Johnson, Robinson, Gaines, Crawford, etc. Also true for SGs. The more talented ones are generally handling the point. There's a reason why there have already been 20 or so call-ups this season and Almond is still in Maine - you don't look for volume scorers in the D-League. That's basically reason why McCants is still looking for a job: I like McCants potential, but he has lots of bad habits - including taking plenty of defensive possessions off and playing undisciplined offence. McCants is a good project to sign in the off-season, put him working with the team coaches the entire Summer, play him in the SL team and then, maybe, maybe, he can become a serviceable role-player in time for the playoffs. To use tomorrow, I'd rather use a role-player who has the game of a role-player, who can defend, handle the ball a bit, start the offensive set and hit the occasional open shot (as opposed to hoisting a shot everytime the ball finds the way to his hands) - and for that give me a D-League PG over McCants or Almond.

And I doubt McCants is anywhere near game shape. He'd probably get into it in 2 months or so. 1 year without playing (and not even being around a team) is a lot of time, no matter your age or the seriousness of the injury.

[howbouthemspurs]

Hill is a sg and Mason is most def not a pg

You're Stupid! Clippers 88 Spurs 118 G.Hill 14pts 11assist in 29 minutes.... looks like a a great point guard stat line to me!